Argosy University : Master's Degree in Psychology with a Counseling specialty Reviews
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Kodriscoll10
(Graduate) on December 2, 2011
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Retaliation, Discrmination and Fraud
First and foremost, the BEST place to complain about Argosy is The Board of Education – The Office of Civil Rights. Most people don’t realize that this Federal Agency exists. Here is the link: http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/publications.html
Click Related Topics then How to file a complaint
I’ve read all the reviews on this web site and felt compelled to tell my story. I read many entries about the other Argosy campuses and wanted to lend a supportive word or two. The same issues of discrimination, sexual harassment, retaliation and fraud occur at the Argosy campus in Chicagoland/Schaumburg all the time despite dozens of students complaining. I was enrolled in the Counseling program (with a 3.8 GPA) and have witnessed and had first-hand conversations with over 70 students who have witnessed discrimination against: anyone who complains about anything at the school, women, women of color, pregnant women, Parkinson’s disease, physical disabilities and more. I am one who complained about statements the Department Chair made stating, “If you want to pass this program, you WILL NOT get pregnant during it because we will not help you in any way and you will be dropped from the program”. Over 40 other students witnessed the same behavior. He also actually dropped three pregnant women out of the program and their internships because they were pregnant. Yes, it REALLY happened. What’s worse is that it doesn’t end there. This man (and his cronies) has had screaming matches with students and professors and has been discriminatory in so many ways I wouldn’t have enough space to write it all down here. Then, when a student like me complains, the retaliation is so harsh, unethical and illegal that you can’t imagine. FOR NO REASON, I was dragged through every conduct committee the school has after I complained, told to place my medical records in writing for the school to assess me as having some sort of problem, bombarded with horrible false allegations about me, defamed my character, followed me down hallways and cornered in elevators, and that’s just scratching the surface. When I escalated the complaint to the highest person at the school, (Craig Swenson), he claimed the paperwork from my complaint suddenly disappeared and the HR director who interviewed me was somehow “no longer with the company”. Then, after I involved The Department of Education and The Office of Civil Rights, the retaliation became even worse. Now, I have completed all the course requirements, including 750+ hours more internship hours than any other student, have paid 100% of the entire program cost, have a 3.7/4.0 GPA, have rave reviews from my internships and they dismissed me from the school. To avoid being sued, their staff turns over extremely fast. Argosy has committed a serious set of crimes against me. I’m hoping the Federal Government with force them to give my earned degree to me.
The best advice I can give to anyone considering ANY of the Argosy campuses is: IT DOESN’T MATTER WHICH CAMPUS YOU ARE AT, THE PROBLEM IS NATIONWIDE AND IS NOT CHANGING DESPITE COMPLAINTS AND LAWSUITS. DO NOT ATTEND ARGOSY ANYWHERE.
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Anonymous
(Graduate) on September 11, 2011
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Not a good school.
The strong point is many of the professors. The chairs do not care. The support is non existent. It was a means to an end, but I am sure there are many better alternatives out there. I jumped at this school, honestly, because they said, "yes" to me. That's the embarrassing truth. This institution should be ashamed at the way they run themselves, and the turnover in the staff, and presidents reflect that poor leadership. Ask who was in charge, and when, while interviewing. Remember; YOU are interviewing the school as well. Do not be desperate like I was and accept the first thing that comes along...
If I were to do it all over again, I would have taken my straight As after my first semester, and transferred to a REAL school. By the time the honeymoon wore off, it was too late.
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Anonymous
(In Progress) on August 11, 2011
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Program run with no professors- MHC Tampa Campus
Where to start? Enrollment- me & about 30 other students enrolled at the same time were lied to by our professor and our enrollment advisor about the status of our school & becoming CACREP accredited. So we were all lied to during the admissions process. NOW that there is a lawsuit regarding this the president is trying to cover herself by claiming the CACREP accreditation was wall a "rumor." Since I have started the program 5 full time faculty member have quit abruptly without notice. Where does this leave us? We have NO DEPARTMENT CHAIR, NO DIRECTOR OF TRAINING & the 2 remaining full time faculty members are not trained in mental health counseling they are of school counseling background. Actually one of them is even still a student! I literally attended a group counseling’s course taught by a professor who had never attended a group session or ran one, therefore the entire class was taught by a student who had more experience than the professor. My current professor quit in the middle of the semester and his replacement has no idea what is going on, the class again is being run by students... AND THIS SCHOOL IS NOT CHEAP! A handful of students cannot begin field work based on the loss of faculty, so their program will be extended 6 months. This university is currently facing a law suit which ironically no one knows what it is about??? I have a couple guesses. We pay an idiotic amount of money to attend a school that owns the rights to little to no journal articles and the school website is a mess, most professors won’t even use it. The stress all of this has placed on the students is making them physically ill, when the last professor left I watched 8 classmates sob, what is going to become of my 2 years of work and my thousands of dollars? I am begging someone please help us! We are doing the work! We wanted this degree! Please someone hear our cry and end this injustice! Give us our hard earned degrees, our money back & please shut this school down so no one else has to face these conditions and wrong doing. My advice to new students, transfer or dropout it will save your health and money in the long run. This school is a travesty.
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Mgray
(In Progress) on July 14, 2011
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The worst experience of my life
I am currently a student at Argosy University Seattle's Masters of Counseling Program. I do not recommend this program to ANYONE. The recruiting program at Argosy is top notch, but their follow through is atrocious. Throughout the two-years of my program I have learned very little, and when I have asked for assistance in broadening my understanding I have been dismissed. The faculty is apathetic at best, and abusive at worst. While some of the teachers shine above the rest, the core faculty are severely lacking in any semblance of professionalism. The Director of Practicum is a chief concern amidst this process. If you do not pass the practicum portion of the program you do not graduate. Part of that program is finding sites to get professional experience at. Argosy has admitted students for placement at sites that were unlicensed to practice mental health, or did not have mental health programs. When students expressed these concerns they were dismissed from the practicum, after their tution was taken. The only option left is to pay tuition again for the course. This is a deplorable money grubbing scheme with little, if any, educational value. For more information look up the numerous lawsuits taking place against Argosy nationwide. In addition, they advertise that their counseling instructors all work as counselors in addition to teaching, this is false. Some of their teachers are ONLY teachers, some are not licensed to practice in the states they live in, and others work in non-counseling fields related to psychology.
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Anonymous
(In Progress) on September 8, 2010
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Discrimination, retaliation and fraud
First and foremost, the BEST place to complain about Argosy is The Board of Education – The Office of Civil Rights. Most people don’t realize that this Federal Agency exists. Here is the link: http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/publications.html
Click Related Topics then How to file a complaint
I’ve read all the reviews on this web site and felt compelled to tell my story. I read many entries about the Seattle and Tampa based Argosy campuses and wanted to lend a supportive word or two. The same issues of discrimination, sexual harassment, retaliation and fraud occur at the Argosy campus in Chicagoland all the time despite dozens of students complaining. I’m currently enrolled in the Counseling program (with a 3.8 GPA) and have witnessed and had first-hand conversations with over 70 students who have witnessed discrimination against: anyone who complains about anything at the school, women, women of color, pregnant women, Parkinson’s disease, physical disabilities and more. I am one who complained about statements the Department Chair made stating, “If you want to pass this program, you WILL NOT get pregnant during it because we will not help you in any way and you will be dropped from the program”. Over 40 other students witnessed the same behavior. He also actually dropped three pregnant women out of the program and their internships because they were pregnant. Yes, it REALLY happened. What’s worse is that it doesn’t end there. This man (and his cronies) has had screaming matches with students and professors and has been discriminatory in so many ways I wouldn’t have enough space to write it all down here. Then, when a student like me complains, the retaliation is so harsh, unethical and illegal that you can’t imagine. FOR NO REASON, I was dragged through every conduct committee the school has after I complained, told to place my medical records in writing for the school to assess me as having some sort of problem, bombarded with horrible false allegations about me, defamed my character, followed me down hallways and cornered in elevators, and that’s just scratching the surface. When I escalated the complaint to the highest person at the school, he claimed the paperwork from my complaint suddenly disappeared and the HR director who interviewed me was somehow “no longer with the company”. I had to hire an attorney and many more of us have done the same. The best advice I can give to anyone considering ANY of the Argosy campuses is: IT DOESN’T MATTER WHICH CAMPUS YOU ARE AT, THE PROBLEM IS NATIONWIDE AND IS NOT CHANGING DESPITE COMPLAINTS AND LAWSUITS. DO NOT ATTEND ARGOSY ANYWHERE.
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Toniw46
(In Progress) on December 22, 2009
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Psychology Program,j Santa Moncia
I am currently enrolled in the Ed.D Program, Counseling Psychology and it is a joke, minus the humor. Do not waste your time or money. If you decide to attend that particular program, get everything that they tell you in writing, whether the information povided is from te registrar's office, advisors or the department chair. I have had to deal with way too many inconsistencies in terms of information. I enrolled in the same program as another student who attended the same school previously before enrolling at Argosy and that student was allowed to have credits waived. It took me almost 2 years to get credits waived for the same program. I received little, if not any cooperation from the department chairs and finally filed a complaint with the main campus. In terms of the "attendance policy", instructors are not consistent and the "so-called policy" appears based more on favoritism and instructor preference. Therefore, a student may miss 3 classes and not be failed by one instructor and and another student may miss 3 classes and receive a fail in the class. The latter experience happened to me.
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Valerie.Wolowski
(In Progress) on April 4, 2009
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Truth About Argosy University Orange County C.A.
I'm in the Master's in Counseling Marriage and Family Therapy program at the Argosy Orange County California campus, and I recieved my B.A. Bachelor's of Arts in Psychology from Cal State University, Long Beach in California.I'm very happy to say that I've had great experiences at Argosy University Orange County California campus so far. They ARE regionally accredited BY the Higher Learning Commission (HLC) and is a member of the North Central Association (NCA), and approved by the BBS BOARD OF BEHAVIORAL SCIENCES and they DO have several Master's programs and the infamous Clinical Psychology PsyD(Therapy oriented not research oriented programs)that ARE APA AMERICAN PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSOCIATION. IF YOU WANT A RESEARCH DEGREE THEN GET A PH.D BECAUSE A PsyD is for people who WANT to learn the necessary knowledge to help others through therapy. If you need to confirm that they are approved by the BBS BOARD OF BEHAVIORAL SCIENCES THEN GO TO THEIR WEBSITE AND SEE FOR YOURSELF:http://www.bbs.ca.gov/app-reg/mft_appr_schools.shtml
Regionally Accredited AT:http://www.ncahlc.org/
APA Accredited AT:http://www.apa.org/ce/
Argosy University is a NEW University, so shame on some of you for bashing the new university. Its NEW,small,and private, so no wonder not many people have heard of it! Argosy University is owned by Education Management Corporation and was formed in September 2001 from the merger of the American School of Professional Psychology, the University of Sarasota, and the Medical Institute of Minnesota.[2] The American School of Professional Psychology was founded in the early 1970s by a group of psychologists, educators, and other professionals who called for a clinical psychology degree that emphasized teaching and practical training over the research-oriented approach of the traditional PhD degree.
Furthermore,I can understand that some of you may have had some bad experiences there, but putting it on some online review site is pathetic. If you TRULY had such an horrendous time at Argosy then go to court, and let me know all the FACTS in writing before whining all over the internet. By the way, I've had much worse experiences at Cal State University, Long Beach in California that don't even compare to anything that I've experienced at Argosy University.
YOU ALL SHOULD SEEK OUT THE FACTS THROUGH DOING YOUR OWN RESEARCH. If YOU think that by solely reading onlinedegreereviews.org is the truth then you're only seeing A LOT or misrepresented information. Go to the Board of Behavioral Sciences website, go to the website for where they're regionally accredited BY the Higher Learning Commission (HLC) and is a member of the North Central Association (NCA), and go to the APA American Psychological Association website. The APA doesn't joke around, and they would not accredite Argosy University's programs if they weren't rigorous and stellar.
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Anonymous
(In Progress) on April 4, 2009
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Perhaps I'm a Positivist
I have had a good experience at Argosy. I like that the class sizes are small. You really get a lot of attention - that is, if you want it. Those who sit and do nothing are welcome as well - which brings me to the fact that, yes I agree, admissions standards are incredibly low. Sometimes I am shocked and appauled by those who have made it into the program... I wonder, where did they get their Bachelor's degree and HOW? Bottom line is, it is an "easy" education if you are willing to spend the time. Going for a counseling degree you don't have to be good with numbers or memorize much information. You do, however, have to have a desire to help people and you have to ENJOY being around them. I have learned a great deal about myself while in the program. The discussions we have in class can facillitate transformation amongst students and eye-opening, insight into a bigger world for psychotherapists outside an academic setting. I just transferred to Sarasota from Tampa, so although I am attending Sarasota currently, the majority of this pertains to Tampa.... Sarasota have some communications errors that they deserpately need detangled. No one returns, calls, e-mails, pleas for help, etc. Anyway, I am not here to say bad things about Argosy for they have taken me to the next, necessary level in my academic career and for that I am grateful. I am sorry to those of you who have suffered bad experience. I hope you have found exactly what you were looking for! :) Good luck to all.
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Anonymous
(In Progress) on March 21, 2009
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HORRIBLE SCHOOL
SCREWED, CHEATED, INTIMIDATED & BULLIED - THE SCHOOL AND ITS FACULTY ARE UNETHICAL HYPOCRITES WHO LITERALLY CONTRADICT THEMSELVES IN THE SAME SENTENCE, THEY ARE COMPLETELY UNFAIR AND SHOW FAVORITISM IN GRADING BOTH IN CLASSES AND IN THE COMP EXAM, E.G., 2 GRADERS GIVING GRADES THAT DIFFER BY 1 POINT FROM ONE ANOTHER ON A 3 POINT SCALE - HOW VALID OR RELIABLE IS THAT?, THEY ARE RACIST, ARE CULTURALLY INSENSITIVE AND JUST CONSISTS OF A BUNCH OF LIARS WHO ARE NOT EMPATHETIC AND INSTEAD WILL TRY TO OUTDO ANY DIFFICULTIES YOU ARE HAVING IN LIFE. OVERALL A VERY BAD SCHOOL WHO PICKS ON ITS STUDENTS, ESPECIALLY THE MORE TRUSTING / NAIVE. IN MY TIME THERE ANY PROFESSORS THAT I RESPECTED LEFT THE SCHOOL WITHIN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME - LITERALLY TIME FRAME OF: TEACHING 1 CLASS - 1.5 YEARS. EVEN THE HEAD OF THE FACULTY LEFT! THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL / DON'T IGNORE THE PINK ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM - THIS IS NOT THE SCHOOL TO GO TO - DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME, MONEY OR ANY EMOTIONS ON THIS SCHOOL - TAKE IT FROM SOMEONE WHO KNOWS AND IS SPEAKING FROM BOTH MY OWN EXPERIENCES AND THE EXPERIENCES OF MY COHORT!
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Anonymous
(In Progress) on May 7, 2008
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Go to another universtiy
Please do yourself a favor and find another school.
This school is owned by Goldman Sachs. Goldman Sachs is a leading global investment banking, securities and investment management firm that provides a wide range of services worldwide to a substantial and diversified client base that includes corporations, financial institutions, governments and high-net-worth individuals. (http://www2.goldmansachs.com/our-firm/about-us/index.html)
The first question you should ask is why would a huge investment firm own a university with locations around the U.S.? If you can't guess the answer just wait until you see what you get for your money.
I graduated in October, 2007, after transferring from Elmhurst College. Argosy, Schaumburg, IL, was the worst academic experience I have had. The turn over rate for teaching staff and administrators is mind boggling. Support for students is zero for advising, etc. It’s May 7, 2008 and I still don’t have my diploma!
Classes are sub par and taught by graduate students from Argosy, many of which don't have teaching experience of knowledge of the subject matter. There are serious problems with placement of graduate psychology students for practicums. You also should check the APA’s accreditation and renewal for this school.
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