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No empathy expressed at Argosy University
This has been the worst experience ever. The Professor's are unprofessional, unhelpful, and rude. I have been enrolled for 2 years in the MA Forensic Psychology program, and I have only had about 3 professors that were actually helpful. My last professor, named Nicole Williams, completely made me feel as though I should have never enrolled. I complained about her numerous times, because of her grading system. I asked her twice what was expected in order for me to obtain full credit on the discussion boards, because she would always find something wrong with all of my work, and the first response was brash and she basically disregarded what I asked her. Once I complained to my advisor about her, she emailed me back with a more elaborate response. The University stated how flexible they were before I started, however since then I am on a late shift at work now, and have kids and a husband, and would find myself staying up until 2 am, finishing homework, falling asleep behind the wheel to drive to work in the morning,and then having to wake up again to go to work all over again at 5:30 am. I would email her to advise that I would be turning in my assignment late due to this, but when she would grade me, the quality of my work which was A+, would be outweighed by the late point deductions. I won't be doing my MA program now, but my Bachelor instead because I am not seeming to get anywhere. I work hard, but if my work is a day or 2 late because of me having to make a living, why is there a late policy in place if the deduction is going to be half of the grade? Never again, and I won't suggest to anyone to enroll in this University.
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Not a chance !
I hope they post this comment. Someone hacked my internet, I have in addition to ID theft also been recieving calls from several diploma mills, including Argosy. These people are relentless in theire enrollment marketing department. $-5 emails a day, they use a constantly changing domain or address, you cant respond to it, and if you put them in your spam folder they can simply email again because the address theyre writing from renews and changes each time. Somehow these people got my real phone number, it is my cell, they called every day, 5-12 times a day, I repeatedly told them not to call and to remove me from the list, I explained I was not interested. They refused to remove me from the list, the calls became more and more agressive, I even resorted to pretending to by my own lawyer, it almost worked til some guy asked me for my bar number, they really will not stop marketing you. I didnt evben apply. This harrassment is insane. I reported them. I also had to change my email address, and telephone number because of the relentless calls and emails.
Any school, that does this, that even after being asked repratedly to stop calling, does not respect the wish of the person they are calling, and anyone who knows they do not stand a chance of enrolling someone, and is told that and to stop calling and still continues to do so totally ignoring the request, is going to be a nightmare. I have no doube these people are the used car salesmen of colleges. You people that have poor grades, and cant or never took the SAT or other college entrance exams are of most risk, kids right out of high school usually attend a reputable school, but people with jobs aqnd familys who need the on line education option, and unemployed people, anyone who can not enroll in a traditional school should keep looking.
This schools reviews say it all. I am willing to bet that the people who wrote the good reviews are either staff of the school, or they were put up to it by the school, any review based on what the majority say that gives these people such high accolades and praise is inconsistent with the hundreds of real bad reviews that tell how this school operates.
Run dont walk, run aweay from Argosy University as fast as you can.
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Choose Another School
This school is a nightmare. Beginning with fact that I have a master's degree and I could have taught 90% of my classes better than the Ph.D. instructors did. I have been attempting to finish my dissertation for 2 years now and I have gotten nothing but roadblock after roadblock.
If considering this program, you should also know that you cannot miss a week of class without being completely dropped from your program. Ridiculous especially considering the cost of tuition is $1350 per unit. The administration is completely apathetic, incompetent, and truly don't care about the students enrolled in this university. The financial aid department has made mistake after mistake, they have actually told me that I qualify for subisdized loans, processed the loan, applied to my account and then told me "oops we made an error, please return all the money to the school immediately". That is not a joke, it literally happened to me twice. Further, the professors are ill equipped for teaching and lack dedication. So much so that I have actually been in courses in which instructors don't check in for 3-4 weeks and we were assigned new professors. This also is not a joke and happened twice.
Requirements for degree completion include passing a comprehensive exam that you are not prepared for in advance to move on to doctoral candidacy. Once a doctoral candidate you start writing your dissertation and you are pretty much on your own. The only time you will hear from your chair is when they tell you that you have to change your work. On top of that there are 8 dissertation units that are 7.5 weeks long and specific dissertation goals have to be met during each session. If you don't meet the goals, no matter what the reason is, or if it is your fault or not you will receive a no credit (NC). After two NCs you are dropped from the program altogether, again no matter if it is yorur fault or not if you didn't meet goals.
In addition, no matter what extenuating circumstances you have, you may not take any time off from school. You will be disenrolled from the program altogether. Death of family member, major illness, surgery...it doesn't matter, you cannot take any time off. This is just a really poorly run school.
My advice to anyone would be to think long and hard before entering this program because the school's main priority is not ensuring its students graduate. If I had known how this program would be, I never would have enrolled.
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Educational Doctorate
Up until today, I am ABD and was to start my dissertation in May of this year. Today I found out that Argosy cut financial aid loans so that one can only borrow the exact cost of tutition for the dissertation. Being on unemployment adn trying to finish my degree, this forced me to drop out as there are fees and costs associated with a dissertation that are expensive, not to mention that I needed to borrow much like a dorm student would until I find another job. The staff was cold, uncaring, and acted as if "I" should have been born with a silver spoon in my mouth and after going there for a few years, maintaining a 3.9-4.0 grade point average, and being so far into this after spending SO much money to do so, they could care less that I had to drop out. This is a money making school...and they do not care about their students, no matter how hard you work.
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Online MBA; ok so far
I am set to finish in December of this year (2012). All of my instructors have PhD's and are about as challenging as any other school. They make sure that you don't slack off and I have even been docked points for lazily citing my work. As in any school, you get what you put into it. The plus side is that you have the convenience of an online class and as a busy parent, I can pace myself and plan accordingly. Your classes are scheduled for you by the scheduling center. If you make below a B-, you will repeat that class the next session. I learned this the hard way but maintain A's now.
I would say that the only issue I have had is the book, since it is digital, you pay more than 2 x's what it is retailed at but are able to have it in an archive which you can create a shortcut on your desktop for. It is a little irritating to have to read online instead of having an actual book but from what I have found, it is the same at other online schools such as Keller (Devry University).
Also, as in any other school, the supportive staff are busy and a little hard to get ahold of. I find better luck emailing them. I still haven't figured out the purpose of the national call center who only directs me back to my original assigned contacts.
I have doubled up my classes and cannot wait to write the next review about how my job hunting has been. I must say this, any school you research will have good and bad reviews. So long as they are accreditted by a Western Association of Schools and Colleges and a Tennessee Higher Learning (where I'm from)
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Anonymous
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BA psych program
I read the reviews among numerous colleges and I see the same comments. I have 5 classes left to obtain by BA in psychology at Argosy. I knew what field I will be doing after I graduate, so I decided to pursue the educational institute that will train me into the field I am pursuing. This is step one-knowing exactly what you want to do before spending thousands of dollars. Basically, it comes down to this, we were taught in highschool and those that did not listen, are screwed when it comes time to college. All colleges facilitate, they dont teach. We use the knowledge we were taught in highschool and apply in college. While you are in college, you are learning to be creative, independent, and mature. This is what separates those from needing their hands held to those that can think abstractly on their own. As I read the reviews about Argosy, I cannot help to think that the negative comments people wrote about were becasue they probably showed immaturaty, needed their hands held because in real life, they could not figure things out on their own, or are just plain lazy, then decided to blame something else (typical human behavior). The facilitators in the BA Psych program at Argosy are PHD, PsyD level instructors or facilitators who uphold certain acedemic requirments. Please note: they were expected to uphold the same acedemic requirments. They also work in the field of psychology during the day. I have seen students argue about failing their papers, those students are no longer at the school, but one could see them digging ditches (to pay back for the wasted money they spent) for roads to be made so other educated people can peacefully go to work in a nice cool air conditioned car while it is 110 degrees outside. Get the point! If you do not conform or do what is necessary to conform to the acedemic standards that Argosy strictly enforces, you are screwed. So those that did conform, we will see you digging those ditches in the hot, humid temperatures. On a side note, my girlfriend is an MBA graduate of the University of Chicago, and she is amazed at some of the cognitive complexities that is involved with figuring out the assignments at Argosy. They are challenging, time consuming, and require strict acedemic policies. I appreciate this at Argosy and I get along with all the instructors. I have had a wonderful experience and I am motived to become what they are training me to be and I show it. This is what they want to see. Thanks and good luck!
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James_compton3
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They r toward a profit only
This is not a scholl you want to go to. I disenrolled today. I had all I could take. The Online Class is hard to use at frist and they have alot of bugs to workout. I have loged on to class and it has many times showed is if I never logged on, have submitted work more than once, missed a whole week bc it was screwie. I get a few calsl every week from the staff just to tell me i have a good grade and almost every time "do you know anybody that wants to go to college" no, told you same thing last time and time before. That pushed me over the edge, fourth time telling him. Frist class is all about plagraism and stuff you learned while in you work study class in High school. waste of time and out a grand for nothing. the job i want will not even look at someone with a degree fromisthe college. I called today to let them know I was droping the program, got ask why, explained to them, respone something like,"I am tired of hearing ppl all the time complaining about this, droping out of the program, talking bad about us, this college isint creadable". I fell used, and abused from this college. They give verygood grades, almost like they a relling you in. decideed to write a total bad paper, finished it a 30 mins. got a 100% what? Dont go here. Sorry if this is hard to follow, little mad at the moment.
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Good experience, elevent education, but job prospects?
The MA in forensic psychology program offered by Argosy University online is challeging and requires initiative as well as dilligence to complete. I am one class away from graduation and have found many of the professors to be outstanding scholars in psychology. However, there are a few who seem disinterested and unmotivated. On more than one occurence I have received a reply similar to, I did not design the course, I facilitate the course, I don't know what that means.
Currently, the job prospects seem somewhat dismal. I have a BS in Criminal Justice and have been a professional in that field for over two decades, but am not truly seeing a professional calling for persons with an MA in forensic psychology. My outlook is optimistic, but also realistic. The counselors seem more interested in you completing the program than providing counsel and assisting with job opportuities or suggestions.
Again, the program is enlightening and provides many opportuities for students to learn and grow, but it is a terminal degree as there is no PhD offered with a concentration in forensic psychology.
I wish everyone good luck and I hope we all find our goals accomplished by furthing and capitalizing on our education.
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Drianbamaged
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I was enrolled without my knoledge
Jeff was sweet as pie when I began talking him. I told him from the first time we spoke that I was school shopping, I hadn't decided on school.
He told me to change school on FAFSA so they could access my information.2 dys later my student adviser called me and i told him the same thing. I could't contact Jeff, voice-mail or any other way.
So I left message with whoever answered call. The next day I got Email form financial department, ( Kim) telling me about award, I hadn't spoken to anyone about classes,tuition, cost, nothng, and I got email telling me I was enrolled and classes set up. I had no control over my experience. When I finally talked to Jeff , I told him I had changed my mind, and he went off on me, if these conversations are recorde you can hear ir for yourseld, he told me ai was stupid for changing schools, and how i would'nt do wee, and i would regret it, then he called me a liar. He said if I had'nt been so dihonest, they wouldn;t have wasted their time and expense to get my awars to gether. He was rude, he even brought up the last time I applied,cause my loans were in defeulat, he critizied me for that. Im mu opinion, he is pushy,rude, overpeowering and pushy.the tells you your dumb if you change your mind, i wa s still considering Argosy, till this.
Pleas check it out. Kris wells, Carpenter
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Kodriscoll10
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Retaliation, Discrmination and Fraud
First and foremost, the BEST place to complain about Argosy is The Board of Education – The Office of Civil Rights. Most people don’t realize that this Federal Agency exists. Here is the link: http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/publications.html
Click Related Topics then How to file a complaint
I’ve read all the reviews on this web site and felt compelled to tell my story. I read many entries about the other Argosy campuses and wanted to lend a supportive word or two. The same issues of discrimination, sexual harassment, retaliation and fraud occur at the Argosy campus in Chicagoland/Schaumburg all the time despite dozens of students complaining. I was enrolled in the Counseling program (with a 3.8 GPA) and have witnessed and had first-hand conversations with over 70 students who have witnessed discrimination against: anyone who complains about anything at the school, women, women of color, pregnant women, Parkinson’s disease, physical disabilities and more. I am one who complained about statements the Department Chair made stating, “If you want to pass this program, you WILL NOT get pregnant during it because we will not help you in any way and you will be dropped from the program”. Over 40 other students witnessed the same behavior. He also actually dropped three pregnant women out of the program and their internships because they were pregnant. Yes, it REALLY happened. What’s worse is that it doesn’t end there. This man (and his cronies) has had screaming matches with students and professors and has been discriminatory in so many ways I wouldn’t have enough space to write it all down here. Then, when a student like me complains, the retaliation is so harsh, unethical and illegal that you can’t imagine. FOR NO REASON, I was dragged through every conduct committee the school has after I complained, told to place my medical records in writing for the school to assess me as having some sort of problem, bombarded with horrible false allegations about me, defamed my character, followed me down hallways and cornered in elevators, and that’s just scratching the surface. When I escalated the complaint to the highest person at the school, (Craig Swenson), he claimed the paperwork from my complaint suddenly disappeared and the HR director who interviewed me was somehow “no longer with the company”. Then, after I involved The Department of Education and The Office of Civil Rights, the retaliation became even worse. Now, I have completed all the course requirements, including 750+ hours more internship hours than any other student, have paid 100% of the entire program cost, have a 3.7/4.0 GPA, have rave reviews from my internships and they dismissed me from the school. To avoid being sued, their staff turns over extremely fast. Argosy has committed a serious set of crimes against me. I’m hoping the Federal Government with force them to give my earned degree to me.
The best advice I can give to anyone considering ANY of the Argosy campuses is: IT DOESN’T MATTER WHICH CAMPUS YOU ARE AT, THE PROBLEM IS NATIONWIDE AND IS NOT CHANGING DESPITE COMPLAINTS AND LAWSUITS. DO NOT ATTEND ARGOSY ANYWHERE.
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Ammeoli
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You get what you put into it!
Your degree is what you make of it. I had excellent internship opportunities while at Argosy and the name is becoming more well known in the Atlanta area. Sure, there are and have been lawsuits, but the same exist at every college in the country.
As far as what you get for your $35,000 in a Forensic Psychology degree, you get what you put in. It is a terminal degree meaning it DOES NOT lead to licensure, but you are told this up front and on the site. However, if you want to pursue this degree, you will write and learn more than you ever have in the subject.
Expect to write about 150 papers, pass a comprehensive exam and successfully complete your practicum (200 hours) before graduating. I completed the program in 21 months, about as fast as you can do it.
The University DOES give "C's" which do not count as a passing grade, so whatever people are saying about diploma mills is wrong. I personally know of students who were taking the same class for the 3rd time. They are also making it mandatory for LPC students to pass exams before they graduate.
I got what I put in: good grades, good opportunities and most of the students found work thru their internships. STOP BLAMING THE WORLD FOR YOUR MISTAKES. Nobody hands you anything in this world, so get out there and do it.
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Anonymous
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Good Experience Graduated from Argosy University Oct 2011
I graduated from Argosy online MA Forensic Psy program Oct 2011. It was torugh. The work was overwhelming. The comprehensive exam was tough too. It was a case study. However it covered every component of what you sudied. I have friends who took comp exams at traditional colleges it they said it was similar. The education is expensive. You can get similar degrees for less money. However, there were only two schools in Illiois that offered Forensic Psy and Argosy was one of the. The professors or instructors dont teach they faciliate conversation, they critique your work. Its tough because you learn on your own. I looked into other programs as I was completing Argosy's, we had basically the same courses. I think to compete this program online you need some knowlege of psychology or criminal justice. I have worked in a residential treatment center for 19 years. My work experience and BA in criminal justice came in handy. I was told inthe begining in Argosy and other programs I investigated that my work experience and educational background would be valuable. Lastly, I felt that many students were unprepared for the program. Reading their posts in class, somethings I felt I was in the wrong class or subject. Reading the many reviews it appears that some people are not ready for online studies and would be better off in a traditional school setting. I enjoyed the online experience. I graduated and was highed at a major institution in Chicago, Illinois working with ex-offenders with emotional/behavior/mental issues. My last job was paying me $55,750 my new job is paying me $77,124. I posted my resume on a website in Chicago that 99% of all non-profits use. They say my experience and was impresed with the fact I had a MA in Forensic Psychology. My degree is what really caught their eye. within three weeks I had employers emailing me about job openings they had which included, Northwestern University Law Center, Juvenile Justice Program; Hektoen Institute; and the Isaac Ray Center, Inc. These are leading institutions in Chicago working with ex-offenders and or individuals currently incarcerated.
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Anonymous
(Graduate) on October 19, 2011
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MA, Forensic Psychology. It is what it is.
I completed my MA in Forensic Psychology. That fact means very little in the real world. Most legitimate forensic positions require some sort of license, and a license requires job hours. Before I was half way through my program, I spoke to the former program head and to my advisor, they both assured me that I could and would get a job with the degree. Since that conversation, many of my professors, program heads and advisors have left the university.
The administrative staff is horrendous. A financial employee left before he could be fired due to 'mishandling' of certain tuition dollars, including my own. The admissions staff members I worked with were incentive driven and unprofessional. When I applied to a second graduate program, they pressured me to repeatedly contact a reference, then became rude when I refused, and reported that they 'no longer had my emails.' Thank goodness for Bcc.
Several professors were quite good, with professional experience that was interesting and added to the learning experience. Others were distant, unresponsive, and I rated them accordingly. Many of those lesser professors have not continued at Argosy.
It is important to understand that this degree is pretty much useless. You will need a counseling degree of some sort to obtain licensure, and to get a decent job, a Ph or PsyD with a forensic concentration. I am now in a position where I may have to go BACK to school to get another degree. I will not be choosing Argosy for that second degree.
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Phoenix Campus
Originally, they had a great program. However in the three years I've been going there, they've gone through two business chairs, two university presidents, and had a turnover of roughly 90% of the support staff. The chairs who were passionate about helping students are gone. The customer service of the administrative staff is poor at best. When walking done the hallway, I overheard them belittling students. I was sick a week and didn't login to a class. Afterwards I was administratively dropped and have to retake a course.
If you don't like the departmental chair, you're mostly out of luck. You can transfer to another division at Argosy to get a new chair, but then you have to reapply to the school and they claim the classes may not transfer. An odd thought, since the same online courses are available throughout the nation.
The program was originally around 45k when I started. Now the program is 57k and rising.
They have no technology support for the weekend classes and their instructors are poorly trained on technology. Recently they've implemented new policies mandating fees on online textbooks, even though half the instructors require you to purchase regular textbooks. New fees include a minimum of 6 credit hour enrollment per semester. So if you have unexpected expenses, you can't drop a course to save money.
The instructors are usually good, unless they're working full time at Argosy. A few have questionable credentials, as in they graduated from a university that's not regionally accredited to hand out doctorates. However, it's what you personally take out of the class that matters. A few exhibit non-verbal bias toward business students.
I used to think, I was the only one who had negative thoughts about the university. However, other students experienced similar circumstances. I've actually had to use external support mechanisms such as therapists due to the lack of support from the university.
Overall, I'd recommend avoiding Argosy.
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Anonymous
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Hindsight is 20/20
Clearly, as shown by the rating, their score is not favorable.
I scored Argosy a "2" in the support category, only because my Academic Advisor would always respond within 24 hours to my phone call or email.
The books were, well, laughable. The textbooks I utilized while attaining my BA were more intense and challenging. The digital books Argosy chooses read more at a high school level. And, so many of the courses utilize the exact material with very little deviation. Quite ridiculous.
There were 3 professors whom I admired a great deal, but those three challenged us - not just facilitated the classroom. The others? A joke. Pure and simple. One such professor's responses to the DQ board almost required an interpreter; no punctuation, atrocious grammar, and lack of any sentence structure. Yes, this is what I pay tuition for - illiterate professors. Nice.
Of course I wish to transfer, but unfortunately the process of starting all over again is not something I wish to undertake (I have 3 classes until graduation) and is simply out of the question - other universities will not transfer credits earned while attending Argosy. I simply dread the application process for my Doctorate.
In addition, for those that state students attending colleges such as Argosy are 'rejects' (could not get in to any other college), that statement simply is not true. I am not a 'reject" - I graduated from Ohio University (3 Bachelor degrees received concurrently), on the Dean's List, and the President's List. I chose an online university simply because I worked three jobs and commuting was not an option.
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Anonymous
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Not a good school.
The strong point is many of the professors. The chairs do not care. The support is non existent. It was a means to an end, but I am sure there are many better alternatives out there. I jumped at this school, honestly, because they said, "yes" to me. That's the embarrassing truth. This institution should be ashamed at the way they run themselves, and the turnover in the staff, and presidents reflect that poor leadership. Ask who was in charge, and when, while interviewing. Remember; YOU are interviewing the school as well. Do not be desperate like I was and accept the first thing that comes along...
If I were to do it all over again, I would have taken my straight As after my first semester, and transferred to a REAL school. By the time the honeymoon wore off, it was too late.
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Really? No alternatives?
My problem with this school is versatility. You would think because the school focuses on Psychology, Education, and Business they would realize that not everyone is the same. I have dyscalculia which is a math learning disability. I had great difficulty with the beginning review math class, and somehow passed by mostly guessing, and help of friends and family. I now have Quantitative Literacy math class, I'm having extreme difficulties with this class because of my dyscalculia. I emailed my academic counselor and asked for her assistance. Apparently this school doesn't offer alternative classes, so basically if a class is too difficult for you, you're out of luck and fail. I try my very hardest, spending hours before and after work on my assignments until the very last second it can be turned in. I feel discriminated against, just because I have a learning disability doesn't make me stupid or unworthy of continuing my education. I was told to go to limited after school tutoring, call my teacher, or youtube how to do my homework, like I havn't tried that and I'm just some lazy piece of crap looking for a free ride through college. This is ridiculous that there isn't an easier math class for those who are slower in math or who have a learning disability. This is not my fault, I didn't ask for this.
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MBA program
I am in the Argosy University (Nashville) MBA program. I am slated to graduate in Dec. 2011. I have found the MBA program challenging and, if I should be so bold, I haven't found many challenges academically. Don't misunderstand, like any university there are some kinks to be encountered and overcome but ... for the persistant student who is desirous to excel, Argosy Nashville will meet the expectation IMO. I double majored, so I could be challenged, in college at Ole Miss and I have found the teaching, and the majority of the teachers at Argosy, to be exceptional for those students that are willing to put out the effort. Others may surely disagree but as for me, I have found Argosy to be an educational school ... and that is what I was looking for, an education.(And I was very, very hesitant to invest in an Argosy education to begin with) Now, to see if the degree will help me get the job that I want.
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Worst experience of my life!!! DO NOT attend this "school"
I just completed my BA in Psychology Degree through Argosy Online University. The last four years were the worst of my life. I do not wish this experience on anyone.
Argosy calls themselves a "higher learning institution". Now I see that from the moment I contacted this school, they were a facade, a sick ruse. They used all of their sales pitches and made promises, and sold me on the bells and whistles of the prestige of this university. I was told that the instructors are professional and interactive, that I will be in a user-friendly classroom and learn from "seasoned faculty members who provide personalized attention in a small class setting." Students are also told that the student advisor will "monitor academic performance, assist students in becoming self-directed learners, and clarify institutional policies and procedures. Simply stated, academic counselors are full-time student advocates."
NONE OF THIS WAS MY EXPERIENCE AT ARGOSY! IT IS ALL LIES!
My professors were often no where to be found in the classroom, they were rude, not interactive, our assignments sat in our outbox ungraded for weeks, and emails and message went unanswered. To this day, I have emails to professors and academic advisors that have never been answered. Questions that have been ignored. Concerns that have been discarded.
My academic advisor changed constantly. In my 4 years at Argosy I must have had 6 or 7 academic advisors switch on me, often times without notice. I write to my advisors with questions and concerns only to receive NO replies at all. I oftentimes have to write them two or three times before they respond. Oftentimes I have to call and complain, only then do they respond. My current academic advisor starts off her emails with "Sorry for the delay in response..."
I was deceived and lied to about the program, the class-room experience, and the student support system. The classroom is horrible and NOT user-friendly. It is an archaic clunky program with many glitches. Additionally, if you write to someone for help expect a response in 3-4 days if you are lucky, or none at all. Assignments are a joke and the school actually uses Wikipedia in their lecture references!!! What "higher learning institution" who charges high "private" school fees have the gall to use Wikipedia in their lectures!?! As a university do they not have any access to REAL academic literature and research that they provide the students with crap off the internet! What am I paying for then? Additionally, the texts are all digital. You get no paper text books. And the Virtual Bookshelf that they use is horrible. I contacted that service once because I couldn't access my book, and they told me they'd have a tech respond to me within 24 hours. I received an email 3 weeks later!
I was also manipulated and lied to about the student financial aid process. The student financial services were a nightmare throughout my stay at Argosy. Argosy asked for MORE money from my FAFSA than needed, so at the end my loan will be for many thousand dollars more than I had anticipated or agreed to. I only found this out during my last semester.
This school is a fraud. They may look like a "real" school on the outside, but this online program is a complete hoax. You will learn very little, get no support, go without interaction or responses from professors and advisors, as well as endure the most stressful and frustrating experience of your life. This institution is UNETHICAL in their practices. They will reel you in, and then abandon you.
Turn back. Do not let this place take your money and lure you into their lies! I have NO idea how this online program ever got accredited.
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Program run with no professors- MHC Tampa Campus
Where to start? Enrollment- me & about 30 other students enrolled at the same time were lied to by our professor and our enrollment advisor about the status of our school & becoming CACREP accredited. So we were all lied to during the admissions process. NOW that there is a lawsuit regarding this the president is trying to cover herself by claiming the CACREP accreditation was wall a "rumor." Since I have started the program 5 full time faculty member have quit abruptly without notice. Where does this leave us? We have NO DEPARTMENT CHAIR, NO DIRECTOR OF TRAINING & the 2 remaining full time faculty members are not trained in mental health counseling they are of school counseling background. Actually one of them is even still a student! I literally attended a group counseling’s course taught by a professor who had never attended a group session or ran one, therefore the entire class was taught by a student who had more experience than the professor. My current professor quit in the middle of the semester and his replacement has no idea what is going on, the class again is being run by students... AND THIS SCHOOL IS NOT CHEAP! A handful of students cannot begin field work based on the loss of faculty, so their program will be extended 6 months. This university is currently facing a law suit which ironically no one knows what it is about??? I have a couple guesses. We pay an idiotic amount of money to attend a school that owns the rights to little to no journal articles and the school website is a mess, most professors won’t even use it. The stress all of this has placed on the students is making them physically ill, when the last professor left I watched 8 classmates sob, what is going to become of my 2 years of work and my thousands of dollars? I am begging someone please help us! We are doing the work! We wanted this degree! Please someone hear our cry and end this injustice! Give us our hard earned degrees, our money back & please shut this school down so no one else has to face these conditions and wrong doing. My advice to new students, transfer or dropout it will save your health and money in the long run. This school is a travesty.
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The worst experience of my life
I am currently a student at Argosy University Seattle's Masters of Counseling Program. I do not recommend this program to ANYONE. The recruiting program at Argosy is top notch, but their follow through is atrocious. Throughout the two-years of my program I have learned very little, and when I have asked for assistance in broadening my understanding I have been dismissed. The faculty is apathetic at best, and abusive at worst. While some of the teachers shine above the rest, the core faculty are severely lacking in any semblance of professionalism. The Director of Practicum is a chief concern amidst this process. If you do not pass the practicum portion of the program you do not graduate. Part of that program is finding sites to get professional experience at. Argosy has admitted students for placement at sites that were unlicensed to practice mental health, or did not have mental health programs. When students expressed these concerns they were dismissed from the practicum, after their tution was taken. The only option left is to pay tuition again for the course. This is a deplorable money grubbing scheme with little, if any, educational value. For more information look up the numerous lawsuits taking place against Argosy nationwide. In addition, they advertise that their counseling instructors all work as counselors in addition to teaching, this is false. Some of their teachers are ONLY teachers, some are not licensed to practice in the states they live in, and others work in non-counseling fields related to psychology.
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Stay away from Argosy (in any state)
I attended Argosy for five years, completing one degree and moving on to another.
Without giving too many details, Argosy promised me:
1) Student teaching.
2) Assistance with local teaching positions (interviews).
3) Prestigious degree that employers will be impressed with (not).
4) Assistance with student loans and keeping myself out of debt.
None of the above has occurred to the date of this writing. I have nothing personally against the professors. Many of them are simply trying to do what they love to do, which is instruct. However, they are pressured to "sell," as are the other employees of the various campuses around the United States.
What I have?
1) A piece of paper that is worthless to every respectable school, higher institution, university, or college in my state.
2) One hundred and fifty thousand (yes, that is: $150,000) dollars worth of student loans. ($100,000 of that was from Argosy, the rest was from undergrad work and further repair of my academic career by attending another university for a respectable higher degree).
3) At the limit of student loans, and now in repayment with the same part-time job I had when I began Argosy over five years ago.
4) Years of resume re-working, wasted time, hundreds of interviews, and thousands of dollars spent on paper, postage, phone calls, gas, off time from work and hundreds of hours of filling out online applications for the constant rejection letters, phone calls, and/or nothing at all.
Save yourself time, money, and aggravation.....Stay AWAY from any online-only school or a school that promises a degree within a "year" or "weeks." They might not all be scams, but nothing replaces a real university or college. It might be difficult to balance work and school; however, the positive stories I am reading about any online university (or even partial online universities), coupled with my experience, is worth the night classes or morning classes at a 'real' university run by any state.
I am now five years older, about to watch my employment go through a "transition" yet again, and I find myself with NOTHING but BILLS.
Do yourself a favor.....run, don't walk, away from Argosy.
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The WORST experience of my life.
I am currently enrolled in the Argosy Online Bachelor's in Psychology Degree with an emphasis in Criminal Justice.
Every moment of the last LONG 4 years has been a disappointment. I am angered and emotionally exhausted with this so-called "institution of higher learning".
Both my Financial and Academic advisor have switched countless times in my four years.
Academic Advisors DO NOT keep in contact. They do not answer or return phone calls. They do not respond to multiple emails. I have had to call several times to talk to somebody higher, each time getting an apology, but never getting any better.
Instructors do not check into classrooms as they state. They do no respond to phone calls or emails, or discussion posts. Many do not provide substantial postings, if at all. Work goes ungraded for weeks, and grades do not get posted regularly. Papers get graded with NO FEEDBACK, making me wonder if they read it at all.
There are "lecture notes" however, these are a JOKE! This school uses WIKIPEDIA and ANSWERS.COM as references!!! I have called and written to complain about this. You mean to tell me that a private university has NO other educational matter to link or reference to other than Wikipedia of all things (which is forbidden to use by students)? It is embarrassing that while reading my lecture notes, I click on the "learn more here" link, and it directs me to a Wikipedia, Yahoo, or Answers.com page. What the heck?!?! The "educational materials" are of little value.
Additionally, the assignments do not match up with the reading, there are several errors and type-o's, and mis-information in each course. Stated due dates are not consistent with the teacher's syllabus, and many of the essay topics do not coincide with the weekly reading. Several instructors have apologized for the classroom errors, but they say their hands are tied because it's outside "classroom developers" that set it up.
Additionally, I believe that the application, financial, and academic areas are fraudulent. I have been lied to and misled, and ONE CLASS short of my graduation, I may not be able to complete my degree due to several errors, and some classes not posting properly. I found that my course track was not making sense, and when I called and finally got through to an advisory, I was told that not only will they need to add one more extra class because there was a mistake in credits, but now my financial aid will not cover this class as I have used up my financial package. So I will have to pay for my last class out of pocket, or withdraw from the school ONE CLASS short of graduating with my degree!!
POTENTIAL STUDENTS BEWARE! THIS "SCHOOL" IS NOT A "SCHOOL". It is a for-profit company. The staff (advisors and instructors) are NOT ACCESSIBLE, nor do they care about you or your work.
DO YOUR RESEARCH AND TURN BACK.
I WISH I WOULD HAVE READ ALL THESE REVIEWS 4 YEARS AGO....
They were unfortunately right.
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Discrimination, retaliation and fraud
First and foremost, the BEST place to complain about Argosy is The Board of Education – The Office of Civil Rights. Most people don’t realize that this Federal Agency exists. Here is the link: http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/publications.html
Click Related Topics then How to file a complaint
I’ve read all the reviews on this web site and felt compelled to tell my story. I read many entries about the Seattle and Tampa based Argosy campuses and wanted to lend a supportive word or two. The same issues of discrimination, sexual harassment, retaliation and fraud occur at the Argosy campus in Chicagoland all the time despite dozens of students complaining. I’m currently enrolled in the Counseling program (with a 3.8 GPA) and have witnessed and had first-hand conversations with over 70 students who have witnessed discrimination against: anyone who complains about anything at the school, women, women of color, pregnant women, Parkinson’s disease, physical disabilities and more. I am one who complained about statements the Department Chair made stating, “If you want to pass this program, you WILL NOT get pregnant during it because we will not help you in any way and you will be dropped from the program”. Over 40 other students witnessed the same behavior. He also actually dropped three pregnant women out of the program and their internships because they were pregnant. Yes, it REALLY happened. What’s worse is that it doesn’t end there. This man (and his cronies) has had screaming matches with students and professors and has been discriminatory in so many ways I wouldn’t have enough space to write it all down here. Then, when a student like me complains, the retaliation is so harsh, unethical and illegal that you can’t imagine. FOR NO REASON, I was dragged through every conduct committee the school has after I complained, told to place my medical records in writing for the school to assess me as having some sort of problem, bombarded with horrible false allegations about me, defamed my character, followed me down hallways and cornered in elevators, and that’s just scratching the surface. When I escalated the complaint to the highest person at the school, he claimed the paperwork from my complaint suddenly disappeared and the HR director who interviewed me was somehow “no longer with the company”. I had to hire an attorney and many more of us have done the same. The best advice I can give to anyone considering ANY of the Argosy campuses is: IT DOESN’T MATTER WHICH CAMPUS YOU ARE AT, THE PROBLEM IS NATIONWIDE AND IS NOT CHANGING DESPITE COMPLAINTS AND LAWSUITS. DO NOT ATTEND ARGOSY ANYWHERE.
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Anonymous
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Phoenix Review
Here are my justifications for the relatively low numeric-responses I have given to Argosy Phoenix and the associated "support-staff". First, I must state why I have choosen to remain anonymous throughout my review. Because I have fled from one Argosy campus to attend another in the hope that my experience will be better, I realize that: going against the grain at any graduate program can be very very dangerous, the family of landed graduate programs (programs at real universities)is amazingly networked, and that the crediability of my testament will suffer accordingly due to my anonymity.
Secondly, Argosy is a chance for those who don't have a better chance elsewhere to get into a graduate program and get a double-priced degree. I'll admit it. I didn't have great grades when accepted into the M.A. program at Phoenix, but money seems to heal all wounds( note: plus excellent recommendations).
Thirdly, research Lies Lies Lies.
[ Following taken from cheap old Wikipedia, but check your facts, did you know she(the professor)now works at another Argosy university]
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/719701,CST-NWS-plagiarist31.article
Plagiarism controversy
Argosy Chicago received attention within academia for its handling of a plagiarism incident that began in early 2006 when a student accused an Argosy University professor of plagiarizing Charles Ford's book Lies! Lies!! Lies!!! in the professor's 2000 Doctor of Psychology (Psy.D.) thesis at Argosy. Initially, the school found "no merit" in the accusations, and scolded the accuser, noting her accusation in her academic record.[9] Later, however, the university reversed its position, fired the professor and rescinded her doctoral degree.[10] A year later, Argosy reinstated her doctoral degree after she completed and defended a new Clinical Research Project (CRP).
Finally, I hope to tranfer as soon as possible. I sacrifice my units to get into a real program, but am also prepared to suffer the consequences of a low undergraduate GPA. Keep your eyes open and one hand on your gun and you should be alright. You might have to waste 2 semesters at Argosy to attend a UC school, or have to do a M.A. from hell, but the prize is the Ph.D or PsyD from a landed university.
Good Luck.
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Paulsusan2002
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Excellent Education at Argosy Sarasota
Argosy University in Sarasota, Florida offered a rigorous and educationally sound Ed.D. program in Ed. Leadership. The degree took me 4 1/2 years to complete and it consisted of blended classes (class began online, attendance at Sarasota campus, completed online) and completely online instruction. The quality of professors was impressive with most having experience as school superintendents or high level educational leaders in large school districts. The instruction was rigorous, the assignments pertinent, and the feedback useful for educational endeavors. I recently completed my doctoral degree and am proud to have graduated from Argosy, Sarasota campus. I currently work for a large school system with a few Argosy doctoral graduates who are in high level positions such as superintendents, instructional leaders, administration, and teachers. My school system consistently demonstrates much higher than average student test scores and high rates of student, parent, and teacher satisfaction. The degree prepared me to perform at my highest level and Argosy Sarasota expected academic rigor in order to achieve mastery. My undergraduate and graduate (Master's) degrees from a well known public Florida University provided a foundation for success and, several years later, Argosy University, Sarasota, allowed me to continue building on the solid foundation. My time on campus allowed me to have a brick and mortar experience with real life contact which enhanced the overall degree. I highly recommend this school and its quality professors.
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Anonymous
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I completed my DBA in Management in 2005 from Argosy University, Sarasota Campus. Overall, it was a great experience. The professors were well qualified and all had real life experience. They were very approachable and passionate about their profession. Most importantly, classes were small (10-15 students) and the personal attention was superb!
Currently, I teach for 12 different online schools (two are from state universities) and I also hold two full-time teaching positions (in a traditional and a remote university setting- most fulltime teaching positions account for 7-12 per week each).
Did Argosy University degree made a difference? Yes, it did! I left corporate america to pursue a teaching career and it has been an amazing experience. Moreover, not only did I get a satisfaction from a personal perspective, but it has improved my quality of life. My average yearly earnings have been mid 300K per year, which is a lot from previous management position held (80k per year and dealing with office politics “extremely unhappy”).
Not all will have the same success, but it surely made difference in my personal and professional life settings (at times, I work 7 days a week, but I am in control of my workload) The Argosy degree has a made huge difference and I highly recommend it.
Good luck!!!
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My positive experiences with Argosy, part 1 of 3
First, let me say it would be very helpful if all posters would state WHICH Argosy campus they attend(ed) and how far into their programs they are (or got) - there are many Argosy campuses throughout the U.S., some are excellent, some are perhaps not as good as others. Certain campuses are "known" for certain graduate degrees and specialize in certain fields (Education, MBA and PsyD in Psychology are big programs at my campus.)
In 2007, I received my BA in Psychology from Argosy Orange County, CA campus. My instructors were all excellent (all were practicing psychologists, all were PhD level, and NOT Argosy grads contrary to what one poster stated). The courses were rigorous. It is so important that you do not fall behind in your assignments and reading because one week here is like 3 weeks at a regular state college. With that said, Argosy is NOT a paper mill. There is no way they would have the accreditations they have if this were so - obtaining those accreditations is seriously difficult. The course requirements, reading, research paper assignments, exams, etc. are exactly the same types as my friend had in her BA psychology program at Cal State Fullerton.
I am now beginning my student teaching and finishing up my Masters degree in Education with a Single Subject teaching credential. This has been an amazing program. The Department Chair of the teaching credential program is the most supportive, encouraging and demanding educator I have ever met. He is available to his students at all hours of the day and night and I have never gone more than 24 hrs without a response about a concern or question. All of my instructors are/have been long-time teachers, principals and superintendents of junior and high schools. My off-site classroom observations, research projects, readings, writing assignments, etc. have been hectic and demanding, but worth every dime I have paid. I have learned so much. I am fully ready and prepared to begin student teaching. I know what to expect, I know how to design effective lesson plans and how to teach effectively. My education has been exactly the same (if not better) as what I would have received at a large state college. Except that I was in classes with 15 other teachers-to-be, not 100+ at a public school. Think about how much better you will get to know your instructors and they will get to know you when you aren't 1 in 100 students in their Curriculum and Instruction course (for example).
Argosy Orange County does have its APA accreditation for those getting their PsyD degrees and are really concerned about having an APA accredited degree. But this designation is not required everywhere you would apply after graduation - if you go into private practice, you don't need it. Most hospitals and behavioral health facilities don't require it, they require a PsyD degree and that you've passed your state boards and have a valid license! Nevertheless, most of the Argosy campuses in California are APA accredited now. You have to check with each campus - some have their APA accreditation, some do not, but even those that don't have it yet definitely are pursuing it. For those grad students going into education, Argosy OC is fully approved and accredited by the California Commission on Teacher Credentialing, Calif's public education overseeing agency. Our OC campus is in the process right now of getting the WASC accreditation, which is the highest accreditation on the west coast. Right now, they are accredited by the Higher Learning Commission, which is still highly important and respected.
The things the school has to go through to get these accreditations is so not easy! I have been invited to sit on the student interview panels during certain accreditation meetings where the evaluators from APA, WASC, etc. come to the campus and really turn it upside down. Interviewing students is just one part of this process.
The bottom line is, I was really saddened to read some of the negative posts on this site about Argosy. It has been a great school and experience for me. I have a relevant graduate degree in an in-demand field and will have no problem getting a good teaching job upon graduation. Maybe some other people have had bad, isolated experiences and found this sounding board to vent them. But without knowing their whole stories, it's hard to say exactly what these situations really were about. Maybe the students who were dismissed for plagiarism really did plagiarize on a paper (who would really admit it, if true)- Argosy takes plagiarism VERY seriously, and it is easy to prove with the current Turn-it-in cross checking system used by most universities nowadays. It's embarrassing and humiliating to be called out for something like that, so I can see why these ex-students may want to get their digs in however they can.
The bottom line - DO YOUR RESEARCH. Find out about the field you are considering. Compare other programs and schools and see how Argosy's courses, content, prices, etc. compare. If you think you can do better somewhere else, go there. For me, it was the best choice and the most flexible and relevant to what I wanted to do. I compared Argosy to Pepperdine University and Chapman University when first considering my MAEd and teaching credential programs. Both of those schools had more "fluff" courses padded into their programs (for example, three bilingual education courses required instead of Argosy's two) and these schools were much more expensive than Argosy. Sure, Argosy is more expensive than a state school, but you have to compare it to a private university, not a public state university.
Perhaps educational or professor quality differs among campuses in different parts of the country. All I can say is the Orange County, Los Angeles, San Diego and San Francisco, CA campuses all have excellent, multi-accredited programs. You will work your behind off here (as you should if you want to master your degree subject)- Argosy is not a paper mill and it is not dumbed down, easier than other schools or granting worthless degrees. One of my mentors who graduated from the EdD program (educational doctorate)several years ago is now the superintendent for a large school district here in Southern California. The past chancellor of the Saddleback Community College district is the program director and teaches in OC's EdD program (the College Administration specialization)as well. These types of professionals would not be affiliated with Argosy if it were flaky, unethical or low quality as some posters here have stated.
Do your research, sit in on some classes, talk to students in the halls, find successful Argosy alumni to speak with, know what your chosen field requires, involve yourself in paraprofessional associations and activities while you are earning your degree. Get to know your professors and soak up all you can from them. Don't be a passive learner, don't cheat or plagiarize your research and papers, and be a serious, intelligent student and you will have a great experience wherever you go, Argosy included.
Good luck!
T. Felts
MAEd/SSTC Student, Argosy University Orange County, CA
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Great if you can't think for yourself
Like many others, I was very excited to start at Argosy but I quickly became very disenchanted with the quality of the education.
I had several transfer credits, many of which were classes that I would need to take to complete my bachelors and was told that they would count towards my gen ed, as they were 200 level and the ones offered at Argosy were in the 400 level. Imagine my surprise when I was told by several profs that I had a better grasp of much of the material than they did...and better yet the abnormal psych class that I was promised that as a 400 class would challenge me instead proved to be one of the biggest wastes of time in my educational career. In most classes I didn't read the books and only briefly skimmed the online lectures and had no problem with the assignments. Yes, everyone enjoys a class or two that are easy A's, that way you can take them with something more challenging and know that you will have a great semester; but do you really want to pay for a class where you end up correcting the teacher on the basics of a subject that they are supposed experts at? (And yes, they did have to admit in class that they were wrong...great job guys!)
In the year that I have been here I have had only one teacher that believed in pushing one's boundaries and his words of advice and support will be the one positive thing that I will carry forward. He made a statement about one of my papers, that it was what is normally expected from a grad student was both greatly appreciated and also a bit sad. I guess that I expected more out of the school and my fellow classmates, as I never would have considered my work to be more than what was expected.
Scenarios given for discussion were many times stereotypical, missing needed information to make a clear clinical decision, or completely out of date and for someone who wants to be pushed this is just not acceptable.
If you are the type of person who is highly intelligent, tends to be analytical, will question authority when they are wrong, and has the ability to think beyond the written word and see the big picture, then Argosy is not for you.
I am done with Argosy at the end of this month and am moving on to working on my Masters elsewhere, but I will carry the feeling that I wasted a year of loan money and time on a year of lower than average education.
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Psychology Program,j Santa Moncia
I am currently enrolled in the Ed.D Program, Counseling Psychology and it is a joke, minus the humor. Do not waste your time or money. If you decide to attend that particular program, get everything that they tell you in writing, whether the information povided is from te registrar's office, advisors or the department chair. I have had to deal with way too many inconsistencies in terms of information. I enrolled in the same program as another student who attended the same school previously before enrolling at Argosy and that student was allowed to have credits waived. It took me almost 2 years to get credits waived for the same program. I received little, if not any cooperation from the department chairs and finally filed a complaint with the main campus. In terms of the "attendance policy", instructors are not consistent and the "so-called policy" appears based more on favoritism and instructor preference. Therefore, a student may miss 3 classes and not be failed by one instructor and and another student may miss 3 classes and receive a fail in the class. The latter experience happened to me.
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Flexible Environment = +
I am currently enrolled in my first session of the MBA program, taking two classes. I first considered attending Argosy almost two years ago, but I didn't feel that the time was quite right. They did seem to be a little pushy, calling multiple times a day, and that was a little off-putting when I was working through the enrollment process. Perhaps they really do just to want to help though? I do wish they were a little more established, and I would like to get more information regarding how they are viewed by their peers. So far, the program seems like a good choice. The assignments are challenging, but not impossible. There is a diverse selection of students in my classes, who can contribute lots of insight based on their real world experiences. I've been able to handle two classes this session and 40+ hours of work so far with no problem. From what I've learned about the program, I would recommend it to someone who is interested in advancing their career but would prefer the flexibility of an online environment.
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I have to agree with Copurnikus, the instructors for the most part are really great, however support is non existent in my experience. For example, in April, Argosy changed it's campus of record. However they neglected to change the school code in a timely manner. This was disclosed to me by someone at Sally Mae. Their mistake was then taken out on the students, as Argosy had to cancel all the loans and resubmit them. As a result we did not receive our stipends when promised, as per the announcement on their web page. After changing the disbursement date numerous times, without ever notifying the students, other than changing the date on the web page, Argosy then took the bulk of the student loans to pay present and future tuition and made the students wait an extra two months for the Pell Grants to come in. I really feel that as a consumer, I am held responsible when I break a financial commitment,and I believe that Argosy should be held responsible as well.
In addition they have just raised their tuition by 30.00 per credit for the second time this year. I believe this makes them one of the most expensive online schools out there at 510.00 per credit for a BA in psychology......ridiculous!
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I am in the fifth year of my doctoral program in clinical psychology at Argosy University. I have finished all of my courses with my lowest grades being 2 B+'s. During the course of my time at Argosy, I have had several referrals to the schools internal "ethics" committee, which placed me 2 years behind schedule for my upcoming practicums. The remediation process, being long and drawn out, as there are 1/3 of the professors that the establishment would require considering the amount of students enrolled, required more remediation than would realistically be expected. After failing 2 of my CCE-D's, I have been dismissed from the program. $150,000.00 in student loans, 5 years of my life, with not even a Master's degree to show for it. How is it possible that I was able to pass all of my classes, pass my comp exams, but fail 2 CCE-D's?? AND it took them 3 semesters to place me onto a practicum, during which I was paying for my seminars "just in case" they were able to find a place for me. Do the math: 40+ students accepted EVERY year....less than 20 go out on Internship every year. What happened to the other 20 people?? Oh. I know. They found some way to dismiss them after they had collected over a hundred thousand dollars from them. Lawyers are afraid to touch the school because the schools legal team has made it nearly impossible to fight given the policies are stated straight up in all of the manuals. However, being a student, one does expect to be treated fairly. have never felt so bullied, intimidated, beat down, and horrible about myself as I do after being in this program. I was suicidal at one point during my time there. Shows how well they foster a healing and accepting environment, right?
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Truth About Argosy University Orange County C.A.
I'm in the Master's in Counseling Marriage and Family Therapy program at the Argosy Orange County California campus, and I recieved my B.A. Bachelor's of Arts in Psychology from Cal State University, Long Beach in California.I'm very happy to say that I've had great experiences at Argosy University Orange County California campus so far. They ARE regionally accredited BY the Higher Learning Commission (HLC) and is a member of the North Central Association (NCA), and approved by the BBS BOARD OF BEHAVIORAL SCIENCES and they DO have several Master's programs and the infamous Clinical Psychology PsyD(Therapy oriented not research oriented programs)that ARE APA AMERICAN PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSOCIATION. IF YOU WANT A RESEARCH DEGREE THEN GET A PH.D BECAUSE A PsyD is for people who WANT to learn the necessary knowledge to help others through therapy. If you need to confirm that they are approved by the BBS BOARD OF BEHAVIORAL SCIENCES THEN GO TO THEIR WEBSITE AND SEE FOR YOURSELF:http://www.bbs.ca.gov/app-reg/mft_appr_schools.shtml
Regionally Accredited AT:http://www.ncahlc.org/
APA Accredited AT:http://www.apa.org/ce/
Argosy University is a NEW University, so shame on some of you for bashing the new university. Its NEW,small,and private, so no wonder not many people have heard of it! Argosy University is owned by Education Management Corporation and was formed in September 2001 from the merger of the American School of Professional Psychology, the University of Sarasota, and the Medical Institute of Minnesota.[2] The American School of Professional Psychology was founded in the early 1970s by a group of psychologists, educators, and other professionals who called for a clinical psychology degree that emphasized teaching and practical training over the research-oriented approach of the traditional PhD degree.
Furthermore,I can understand that some of you may have had some bad experiences there, but putting it on some online review site is pathetic. If you TRULY had such an horrendous time at Argosy then go to court, and let me know all the FACTS in writing before whining all over the internet. By the way, I've had much worse experiences at Cal State University, Long Beach in California that don't even compare to anything that I've experienced at Argosy University.
YOU ALL SHOULD SEEK OUT THE FACTS THROUGH DOING YOUR OWN RESEARCH. If YOU think that by solely reading onlinedegreereviews.org is the truth then you're only seeing A LOT or misrepresented information. Go to the Board of Behavioral Sciences website, go to the website for where they're regionally accredited BY the Higher Learning Commission (HLC) and is a member of the North Central Association (NCA), and go to the APA American Psychological Association website. The APA doesn't joke around, and they would not accredite Argosy University's programs if they weren't rigorous and stellar.
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Perhaps I'm a Positivist
I have had a good experience at Argosy. I like that the class sizes are small. You really get a lot of attention - that is, if you want it. Those who sit and do nothing are welcome as well - which brings me to the fact that, yes I agree, admissions standards are incredibly low. Sometimes I am shocked and appauled by those who have made it into the program... I wonder, where did they get their Bachelor's degree and HOW? Bottom line is, it is an "easy" education if you are willing to spend the time. Going for a counseling degree you don't have to be good with numbers or memorize much information. You do, however, have to have a desire to help people and you have to ENJOY being around them. I have learned a great deal about myself while in the program. The discussions we have in class can facillitate transformation amongst students and eye-opening, insight into a bigger world for psychotherapists outside an academic setting. I just transferred to Sarasota from Tampa, so although I am attending Sarasota currently, the majority of this pertains to Tampa.... Sarasota have some communications errors that they deserpately need detangled. No one returns, calls, e-mails, pleas for help, etc. Anyway, I am not here to say bad things about Argosy for they have taken me to the next, necessary level in my academic career and for that I am grateful. I am sorry to those of you who have suffered bad experience. I hope you have found exactly what you were looking for! :) Good luck to all.
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HORRIBLE SCHOOL
SCREWED, CHEATED, INTIMIDATED & BULLIED - THE SCHOOL AND ITS FACULTY ARE UNETHICAL HYPOCRITES WHO LITERALLY CONTRADICT THEMSELVES IN THE SAME SENTENCE, THEY ARE COMPLETELY UNFAIR AND SHOW FAVORITISM IN GRADING BOTH IN CLASSES AND IN THE COMP EXAM, E.G., 2 GRADERS GIVING GRADES THAT DIFFER BY 1 POINT FROM ONE ANOTHER ON A 3 POINT SCALE - HOW VALID OR RELIABLE IS THAT?, THEY ARE RACIST, ARE CULTURALLY INSENSITIVE AND JUST CONSISTS OF A BUNCH OF LIARS WHO ARE NOT EMPATHETIC AND INSTEAD WILL TRY TO OUTDO ANY DIFFICULTIES YOU ARE HAVING IN LIFE. OVERALL A VERY BAD SCHOOL WHO PICKS ON ITS STUDENTS, ESPECIALLY THE MORE TRUSTING / NAIVE. IN MY TIME THERE ANY PROFESSORS THAT I RESPECTED LEFT THE SCHOOL WITHIN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME - LITERALLY TIME FRAME OF: TEACHING 1 CLASS - 1.5 YEARS. EVEN THE HEAD OF THE FACULTY LEFT! THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL / DON'T IGNORE THE PINK ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM - THIS IS NOT THE SCHOOL TO GO TO - DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME, MONEY OR ANY EMOTIONS ON THIS SCHOOL - TAKE IT FROM SOMEONE WHO KNOWS AND IS SPEAKING FROM BOTH MY OWN EXPERIENCES AND THE EXPERIENCES OF MY COHORT!
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Bangor Hawaii
AFTER COMPLETING THE DBA AT THE HONOLULU CAMPUS, I WENT ON SEVERAL INTERVIEWS AND PRESENTED MYSELF AS DR. PALMER. ONE OF THE INTERVIEWERS LAUGHED AT ME WHEN HE LEARNED THAT MY DOCTORATES WAS RECEIVED AT ARGOSY UNIVERSITY. HE REFERRED TO ARGOSY AS A DEGREE MILL, AND TOLD ME THAT MY DEGREE WAS'NT WORTH THE PAPER IT WAS PRINTED ON. NEEDLESS TO SAY, I DID'NT GET THE JOB. I HAVE OWNED THIS DBA FOR 1.5 YEARS, AND HAVE YET TO BE HIRED. I WAS TOLD BY THE ADMISSIONS REP, THAT WITH A DBA FROM ARGOSY, I WOULD HAVE HEAD HUNTERS COMPETING FOR MY HIRE. I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT GOLDMAN SACHS WOULD STAND BEHIND SUCH A FRAUD. IF ANYONE...ANYONE IS CONSIDERING ARGOSY UNIVERSITY, PLEASE..PLEASE..PLEASE GO THE TRADITIONAL ROUTE. IF YOU STILL CHOSE AN ALTERNATIVE SCHOOL, DO NOT CHOSE ARGOSY....YOU WILL HAVE REGRETS UNTIL THE DAY YOU DIE.
DR.PALMER,
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Finding Balance
I looked into enrolling into Argosy. It looks like a very bad risk to me. There are soldiers who succeed in crawling through minefields and go on to win the Congressional Medal of Honor, but I don't recommend crawling through one just in hopes of getting one pinned on your chest. Online education is so new, it is caught in the larger tides of economic, social, political, and cultural forces, and it can't yet figure out what it is or which way it's going. The guys I talked with in "Admissions" (a euphemism for sales) tried the hard sell on me, and got their pelvic girdles on their shoulders when I didn't bite. They picked the wrong fish to feed that shoddy bait -- I worked professionally with felons so many years that I find con games entertaining to a point, then boring - especially second-rate con games like these guys were playing. Facts: I copied and pasted Better Business Bureau evaluations of Argosy, two of which were a grade of "D" (for the Santa Ana campus) and "Unsatisfactory" (for the online program). These guys tried every way imaginable to discredit the BBB, their results, and my ability to intellectually grasp the information without getting confused. It was at that point I began losing my patience. I also copied and pasted posts from a different forum, as a way to illustrate my concerns. One fellow tried to make believe he thought those posts were about University of Phoenix - a pariah among online schools.
Con games? Nope. Just second-rate *attempts* at con games -- and I speak as an authority on that subject.
The tragedy is that these two clowns would not let Argosy's good reputation for it's psych programs speak for themselves. Nope. They had to challenge the BBB and my ability to understand it.
Wrong move.
If $50 is not posted back to my account by 1:22 pm tomorrow afternoon, two letters are going to be mailed and faxed - one to my bank, and the other to the local prosecuting attorney. Games? I don't have time.
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Go to another universtiy
Please do yourself a favor and find another school.
This school is owned by Goldman Sachs. Goldman Sachs is a leading global investment banking, securities and investment management firm that provides a wide range of services worldwide to a substantial and diversified client base that includes corporations, financial institutions, governments and high-net-worth individuals. (http://www2.goldmansachs.com/our-firm/about-us/index.html)
The first question you should ask is why would a huge investment firm own a university with locations around the U.S.? If you can't guess the answer just wait until you see what you get for your money.
I graduated in October, 2007, after transferring from Elmhurst College. Argosy, Schaumburg, IL, was the worst academic experience I have had. The turn over rate for teaching staff and administrators is mind boggling. Support for students is zero for advising, etc. It’s May 7, 2008 and I still don’t have my diploma!
Classes are sub par and taught by graduate students from Argosy, many of which don't have teaching experience of knowledge of the subject matter. There are serious problems with placement of graduate psychology students for practicums. You also should check the APA’s accreditation and renewal for this school.
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total Ripoff - School is a Scam
First, let me say that I rated materials, teachers, and technology all a 5 because I really have no idea what they were like.
Read below for a story about how completely un-awesome Argosy is at customer service, treating their students well, and being a well-run business in general. After all, they are a business, and you're joking yourself if you think that they aren't in the education game to make money. What a rip off.
I sign up for information, and immediately start getting calls and mail pressuring me into registering. I figure it's only $50 to apply, and I was wanting to go back to school, so I apply and get accepted.
Life was extremely busy at that point, and after applying I get slammed with countless emails and calls from multiple people pressuring me into registering right away. I finally concede to give 2 classes a try online, and am enrolled over the telephone by some lady.
After around 3 days, I call back to un-enroll, and leave a message, since my buyers remorse let me know that there was no way I could handle going back at the time. I also call the guy who pressured me into applying, as well as some other lady who was involved in-between trying to get me student aid.
When I don't get a call back in 2 days, I write emails to all of them. And then another follow up email a few days later. Again, from all three, I never get a response. I finally write a final letter to all 3, as well as to the school's general email, attach all my previous emails, my synopsis of what is going on, and send it off requesting that someone contact me.
I never hear a word untill...
Three months later, some guy from their billing calls my phone while I'm at work and leaves a threatening voice mail about how they are going to come after me for the debt owed. I call him back, twice, and never get a call back.
Then, three months after that, I get a letter from a collections agency (RMS) that Argosy hired to go after the debt. They are, as they should be, super pushy and very "you owe this money to us and there is nothing you can do about it." I explain that I'd like to at least toalk to someone about the situation, what happened, and to see if there is a reasonable solution.
At this point, they say that Argosy made very clear all their policies in their employee handbook when I registered. Then I explain I never got a handbook, it was all done over the phone quickly. Then he says, well, then I should have known to look online for the instructions to withdraw. I explain no one ever got back to me after repeated attempts.
Thanks Argosy for not only helping me out when I was trying to figure out how to even log in to view my classes, but with this new debt, not allowing me to attend a real institution until I can figure this out.
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Clinical psych program
I am enrolled in the clinical psych program at argosy. I got my MA and am almost done with the psyd. I am do not know if ppl on this site are aware of the history of how argosy was formed. Argosy was originally individual state schools of profesional psychology. ISPP, the illinois school of proffesional psych was the first profesional school of psych that existed period. Ask ppl in the field, psychologists, they will tell you that ISPP has a good reputation. during the 90's the psych schools and the u in sarasota and a medical school in mn, i think, formed together and made "agrosy unuversity"
(If I messed up some small detail in describing this dont crucify me.)
The PSYCHOLOGY PSYD program is in a different league then the rest of the stuff going on at argosy. The Psyd at argosy is based on a very solid and reputable program that has been around since the APA created the Psyd degree.
I know a number (about 5 or 6) graduates of ISPP (argosy) who are very gainfully employed, you can do your own google search, instead of typing in argosy, type in ISPP and you wil find many gainfully employed respected psychologists.
That being said, I am in the program now, and I know the ups and downs of it. we just had match day for internship a bit over a month ago, and on my campus the match rate was 96%. We only have one student now without a site and that is bec of her geographic limitation.
What are the negatives of the PsyD program here?
1- It is very competitive to get practicum sites, keep in mind you need 2 or 3 of them b4 internship.
2- Argosy does not have their own counseling site.
3- Tuition is out of control
I think argosy is trying to piggyback business and education programs off of the Psych programs good record, and that is not fair to us psych students who work off our tails and hear that other students are getting an easy ride from argosy.
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