Breyer State University Comments

This is a present for the people who cannot find any publication from BSU graduates:
xxx.jbrmr.com/abstract/vol_2_issue_1_oct07.html

and a little search in google books:

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"Breyer State University (BSU) is by no means responsible for the content of these standards (evidently). BSU has the legal and ethical obligation to conform to the State regulations and this is exactly what it does."

Since BS "u" failed miserably in all the previous states, are you saying that BS "u" is now licensed in California?

Breyer State again makes the Top 10 diploma mill scams, above the Cat who got a degree, but below the state troopers busted for unaccredited degrees.

geteducated.com/diploma-mills-police/life-experience-college-degree/290-online-college-diploma-mill-cases

Jess,

I like your arguments, now we know your education!

Keep posting!

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"Let's bring on the issues, send a message that the largest academic fraud in the district not go unpunished," Sage said."



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Recognized by the National Commission for Health Education Credentialing,national accrediting organization for health educators...it can't be a diploma mill..isn't it?

Nick,

I will be nice here, THAT IS NOT AN ACCREDITATION BODY, THEY MADE THAT UP to give the illusion of credibility.

DO NOT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU SEE ON THE INTERNET FOR GOD'S SAKE.

This place is a WEBSITE with several people sitting in a kitchen stuffing envelops with phoney degrees..

In case you consider California’s standards / regulations for a University to be able to operate as being either meaningless or insignificant, you can always address your complains to the relevant State Bureau. Breyer State University (BSU) is by no means responsible for the content of these standards (evidently). BSU has the legal and ethical obligation to conform to the State regulations and this is exactly what it does. 

(Also, if you like, you may complain for the procedures / standards required to obtain a driving license and blame them as being responsible for the large number of car accidents!)

"A.2: If State licensing is such an insignificant thing then why did you make such a big issue out of the fact that Alabama refused to renew BSU's license?"

Because it is such an incredibly low standard, passing it is irrelevant, failing it miserably like the BS "u" did, in addition to being listed as illegal in many states should be sufficient warning to any real students.

In California, it's for mainly for tax and liability purposes.

Q.:"-Do you have some stake in BSU???"
A.: No! I am just a BSU graduate with a little bit of common sense.

Do you have some stake in BSU???lol

"...It has NOTHING to do with education and curriculum.."

Then why did the Bureau for Private Postsecondary Education of the State of California did issue strict and very specific operating AND academic regulations for institutions to be able to operate? (their catalogue of prerequisities for obtaining a license is over 100 pages long and includes specific curriculum, courses, and faculty criteria).

Again you lie ...

Is simply the state granting the business entitiy the right to do business in.  It has NOTHING to do with education and curriculum.

It's for mainly for tax and liability purposes.

"Breyer "state" was deemed a diploma mill and booted from Alabama in 2008.  Their PO Box landed briefly in Oregon and got booted also.  They list an address in California, but nobody there has ever heard of them.  "

Just correcting my mistake, it was Idaho, not Oregon that forced Breyer "state" out after a couple of weeks.

"Breyer State is listed as "uncredited" and not a diploma mill since to do so the state which lists it as such is committing libel."

You'll have to take it up with all the states that are specifically listing as a diploma mill then, there are lots, such as Alabama that booted them out. 

See their press release:  "No more diploma mills: Chancellor Bradley Byrne announces new initiatives to shut down sham schools, better regulate other for-profits".

You are also incorrect on the Oregon Lawsuit, unaccredited "degree" holders still have to file a lengthy disclaimer any time they try to use their "degree" and still face a misdemeanor if they do not.

Incorrect James.

Breyer State is listed as "uncredited" and not a diploma mill since to do so the state which lists it as such is committing libel.

There is no precise definition as to what constitutes a diploma mill. A while back the State of Oregon attempted to list one uncredited institution as a "Diploma Mill" and was successfully sued by graduates of this school. Some would actually state that any for profit institution is a Diploma Mill (such as University of Phoenix.) While others would say the same as any unaccredited school.

"They are not a dimploma mill. They are under new ownership as of the last two years and have made significant changes per California State Law..."

Ummm, the State of California has never heard of them, most of the other states list them specifically as a diploma mill.

"the United States Department of Education clearly states, "ACCREDITATION ITSELF IS A VOLUNTARY PROCESS"

Haha, good one.  You forgot the rest of the sentence where they say "Since accreditation is the PRIMARY means of determining the legitimacy and quality of colleges and universities in the United States, to describe the process as "voluntary" is not to describe it as "optional" or "unnecessary." 

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lol... Contact Breyer state yourself. They dont claim to be more than they are. An international online educational institution aimed at providing affordable education. 

They are not a dimploma mill. They are under new ownership as of the last two years and have made significant changes per California State Law...

TRUE- they are unaccredited, but as the United States Department of Education clearly states, "ACCREDITATION ITSELF IS A VOLUNTARY PROCESS"  

There is no mandate by federal law for a School, College or University to be accredited. Many good schools are not accredited. 
Also, each accreditor has their own unique standards and, thus, there is no national consistency in institutional accreditation. 

Accreditation in the United States is awarded by non-US governmental agencies. Again, accreditation is strictly a voluntary option in the United States and many high-quality, legitimate and legal Colleges and Universities and other institutions of higher education operate today without accreditation. 

Breyer "state" was deemed a diploma mill and booted from Alabama in 2008.  Their PO Box landed briefly in Oregon and got booted also.  They list an address in California, but nobody there has ever heard of them.  

"News Release 
Monday, July 14, 2008

No more diploma mills:   Alabama Chancellor Bradley Byrne announces new initiatives to shut down sham schools such as Breyer State"

"Can anyone provide an update on Breyer States accreditation progress?  I live in California, and when I contacted the state, I was told they are still not licensed here"

I called the BPPE (the oversight agency in California).  They told me that Breyer State was unaccredited, unlicensed in California, and they were not aware of any pending application from Breyer State for approval.

Re: To Jamie

My understanding is that Breyer operates in Alabama, or at least its licensed there. 

"just WHO makes the decision on what constitutes "fraudulent or substandard?"

It should be a federal standard, but unfortunately only 12-15 states have passed laws or otherwise defined substandard or illegal degrees and specifically listed Breyer "which" State "university"

In the reminder of the states, they are just academically meaningless.

Laws which are virtually unenforceable in any court of law because defining what constitutes "substandard" is totally subjective. This garbage about stating that Breyer State University would be such a school could be easily dis proven. This may be the reason why no one has ever been convicted of using such a degree in a court of law.

Re Hooray:

Yes, our freedoms are going up in smoke.
And I would add, just WHO makes the decision on what constitutes "fraudulent or substandard?"

And just what constitutes "Fradulent or Substandard Degrees?"

The very way that this ridiculous law is worded guarantees that it cannot be enforced.

Along with the Michigan wording, here is another state law that specifically lists Breyer State.  

"Fraudulent or substandard degree" means a degree conferred in Texas in violation of the Texas Education Code; conferred in another state in violation of that state's laws; conferred in another state by an institution that was not accredited by an accreditor recognized by the Coordinating Board"

The Texas Penal Code (Section 32.52) prohibits the use of fraudulent or substandard degrees "in a written or oral advertisement or other promotion of a business; or with the intent to: obtain employment; obtain a license or certificate to practice a trade, profession, or occupation; obtain a promotion, a compensation or other benefit, or an increase in compensation or other benefit, in employment or in the practice of a trade, profession, or occupation; obtain admission to an educational program in this state; or gain a position in government with authority over another person, regardless of whether the actor receives compensation for the position." Violation of this law is a Class B misdemeanor.

Breyer State University Alabama; Idaho No accreditation from a CB recognized accreditor. Not a state-supported university as implied by the name. 

thecb.state.tx.us/index.cfm?objectid=6941C34E-DF3E-4B42-288239D3FC3ACD29

Can anyone provide an update on Breyer States accreditation progress?  I live in California, and when I contacted the state, I was told they are still not licensed here.

Thank you.

You could call directly the University and ask them.

Libel is not free speech either.

And many BSU grads would agree to that.

And something else, by implying that having a degree from Breyer constitutes fraud you are libeling thousands of students.

"How does fraud and misrepresentation qualify as free speech?'

You tell me. You are the one who comes on this board pretending to be a student of Breyer State and starts dissing the school.

"The specific law you cited would only pertain to certain categories of public sector employment within the State of Michigan."

Not sure where you would have gotten that idea, but of course, it is much broader that you would like to pretend, not only in Michigan but in the multitude of other states with similar anti-fraud measures.

How does fraud and misrepresentation qualify as free speech?

Or let me state this in a more proper way:

The specific law you cited would only pertain to certain categories of public sector employment within the State of Michigan.

Any laws prohibiting putting an educational experience on any resume or unemployment application, even if they exist would be unenforceable because it would be a violation of constitutional guarantees of free speech. 

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THE ACT OF ACCEPTING A GRADUATE SOLELY BECAUSE THE SCHOOL ATTENDED WAS ACCREDITED OR UNACCREDITED, AND NOT BECAUSE THE ALUMNUS IS QUALIFIED IS DEEMED TO BE AN UNLAWFUL ACT OF PRACTICING "STATUS DISCRIMINATION," PUNISHABLE UNDER THE U.S. CONSTITUTION, UNDER THE LAWS OF STATES, AND UNDER THE RULES OF THE GENEVA CONVENTION/WORLD COURT AT THE HAGUE.

"Its not illegal to study at any University. At least not in the United States."

True, it is only illegal in the United States to use a Breyer State degree for things such as employment, licensing, certification, promotion, teaching, working, or otherwise listing it in anyway.

1 Its not illegal to study at any University. At least not in the United States.

2 Peddle your worthless opinions somewhere else. This is a board to discuss Breyer State University and if you are not or were not a student than you belong somewhere else.

So what again is the difference between fake and sorta fake?

Either way, still illegal in my home state, so peddle your fakes somewhere else.

Hey Wolverine:

Some governmental entities do not allow certain categories of colleges and universities to allow their degrees to be used for the purpose of employment and others do. Some companies have similar policies.

What you cite is not "warning" but a policy.

Boo Wolverines!
Go Spartans! 

Updated State warning on Breyer State diploma mill.

Michigan State Warning on Breyer State:
CAUTION! The State of Michigan classifies this online college as an UNACCEPTABLE INSTITUTION for credentialing for those seeking jobs in the State's Department of Civil Service: (Consult Michigan's NON ACCREDITED COLLEGES/UNIVERSITIES - "Degrees from these institutions will not be accepted by the Department of Civil Service as satisfying any educational requirements indicated on job specifications

Re: Joe

"I did't buy a degree from Breyer State University, but there was a...yadda yadda yadda..."

Well Joe nobody "buys" a Breyer State University degree. You EARN one!

And since you obviously do not know what you are talking about I would say that your opinions do not mean a whole lot to me.

I didn't buy a "degree" from Breyer "state" "university", but there is a boatload of evidence that it is substandard at best.

I didn't geta degree from Harvard either, but you can likewise find enough evidence to conclude that it is a good school.

Did YOU actually earn a degree at Breyer?

If not than you should find something more productive to do with you time like adopting homeless cats.

You are correct, there are alot of real and recognized distance education opportunities out there, unfortunately, Breyer "state" "university" is not one of them.  They work like this.

1.  You submit your credit card.
2.  You get a degree.

So easy a caveperson (or a cat) can buy one.

Eh... 

I don't know what cave you have been living in my friend but there is such a thing as "Distance Education" which allows people to take classes and earn degrees online. You see it works like this.

1 You enroll for classes online.
2 You do your class work.
3 You take your tests.
4 You get a degree.

And you do it all from the convenience of your own home... or if you prefer your cave.

Its so easy even a caveman can do it.

Nobody "attended" Breyer "state", it is just a mail drop box in California (previously a mail drop box in Alabama, Idaho, etc, etc.)

Whats your point?

Did you even attend Breyer State or are you just her to blow smoke?

Interesting read from the dltruth site.

Seems like a lot of wasted effort to try and differentiate between diploma mills and unaccredited/unrecognized semi-diploma mills like they are trying to make Breyer "state" sound like.  

But in the end, it doesn't matter.  There are thousands of real universities out there, many online.  If you are capable of earning a real degree, do so.

See also:

Academic Freedom Under Assault

dltruth.com/thread-829.html?highlight=Freedom

This is too long to post here... but check it out.

In Defense of Unaccredited Colleges and Universities:

dltruth.com/thread-1003.html

Found this posting. An interesting read.

Looks like someone is defending Non-Traditional Colleges.

No movement in the California laws, so Breyer "state" is still able to maintain a mailbox drop in an office building but of course has no license, no accreditation, and no academic meaning.

YOU ALL REALIZE THIS IS A DIPLOMA MILL RIGHT?

These "reviews" have to be a friggin JOKE right? IT'S A MILL FOLKS, if you buy this paper from them you can't use it anywhere!! GOOGLE IT FOR GOD'S SAKE!

WAKE UP!!

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"Jan. 31, 2011, 9:33 p.m.
Is this diploma mill still unliscensed in the US?"

Yes, this diploma mill never has nor never will have any academic meaning in the US or elsewhere.

Nope, they are still drifting in unlicensed, unaccredited, unrecognized waters.

Additional states are adding them to the diploma mill lists, but it is a slow process.  New Jersey was the latest to target Breyer "state"

"N.J. closes loopholes with online diploma mills used by teachers" 

xxx.newjerseynewsroom.com/state/nj-closes-loopholes-with-online-diploma-mills-used-by-teachers

Is this diploma mill still unliscensed in the US?

I'm fairly recently in a traffic auto accident, slightly modest, but I rear-ended somebody. I was cited for Failure To Keep Assured Clear Distance. Can there be any reason I should not just plead guilty and pay the fine? It appears pretty cut-and-dry.

If your company does not accept BSU degrees then the problem lies within your company not with BSU! If your company's HR manager had the time and will to review BSU's courses and teaching methods he/she would find they are highly relevant, up-to-date, and rigorous thus providing all the skills and competencies an employee needs to be successful. In case your HR manager is not in position to recognize what is good education and what is not, consider replacing him/her!

Q.: "What exactly is the point of state licensing?" 

A.1: State licensing reflects the fact that an institution's curriculum, number of courses, credit hours, faculty as well as other specifications comply with certain quality standards determined by California's Bureau for Private Post Secondary Education. From this point of view, a State license quarantees quality and quantity of education provided by a School.

A.2: If State licensing is such an insignificant thing then why did you make such a big issue out of the fact that Alabama refused to renew BSU's license? (due to purely political reasons)

What exactly is the point of state licensing?  To sell to the naive?  It does not qualify an applicant for any job in our company or in the entire industry I work in.

But if they can say "it is not illegal", that is a good marketing tool?  That's even assuming that BS "u" doesn't simply move their mailbox drop to state number 4,5,6? b

Again the same attitude of yours: ..."California's license is academically meaningless...". And then, whose license has got any meaning ? Yours? Say, something like "Dr Googlin's international accreditation association" (!)?

If California's laws have any teeth for their academically meaningless "state license", these diploma mills will just run away to another state.

Very interesting....very interesting.  BSU can run, but they can't hide.

Who determines "the minimum standards"? You? How come? Who are you? Do you consider yourself to be above the State laws? ...

Will be interesting to see two things

A)  Will the California law be sufficient to screen out diploma mills or will they all continue to flock there?

B)  What was substandard previously and how massive will the changes need to be to BS"u" to meet a minimum standard?  

1.  We have changed the time frame for each course to 15 weeks. 
2.  The number of credit hours have been reduced. 
3.  The number of courses required for each degree program have increased as well. 
4.  We are also redesigning the course classrooms."

@BSU Requests..

Are you moron or what?BSU applied on 1st August 2010, and you want a response in a week???You must be kidding little boy!

cheers!!

N.B.: In case your obsessions about diploma mills and BSU insist, consider consulting a mental health professional...

If you still have any doubts about BSU you may contact California's Bureau for Private Postsecondary Education.
In case you consider Domenick Flarey a fraudster contact your local police station and ask them to arrest him.
In case you have no evidence (most likely) call your lawyer to protect you from the slander lawsuit.

What is taking so long to process this request???  So far all claims developed by Dr. Googlin et al have not been refuted....Breyer State University is and always will be a diploma mill created by Domenick Flarey--the biggest fraudster of all time.

Go ahead, google Flarey, you will see what I am talking about

So, Breyer State University (BSU) has requested a license to operate and is in the process of adjusting its courses and methods so that they comply with the regulations set by the State of California and the relevant Bureau for Private Postsecondary Education.

This, lends support to our argumentation that BSU is a high-quality, legitimate and decent educational organization that continuously seeks to upgrade the level of quality provided to its students. 

Thus, all the claims (developed by propaganda experts like "Dr Goooglin" and the others here) are now refuted (i.e.: a diploma mill that sells degrees for a fee, would never apply for a legitimate license to operate; on the contrary it would be hidding from the State authorities...).

SECTION 94809(c) of the California Private Postsecondary and Vocational Education Act: "Requires institutions operating without a valid approval to operate, notify a student seeking enroll of the status of the institution's pending application: "This institution's application for approval to operate has not yet been reviewed by the Bureau for Private Postsecondary Education."

As of 8/1/2010 Breyer State University has applied for approval to operating with the California Bureau for Private Postsecondary Education. In compliance with their standards many of our degree programs have undergone redesign. We have changed the time frame for each course to 15 weeks. The number of credit hours have been reduced. The number of courses required for each degree program have increased as well. We are also redesigning the course classrooms.

source : hxxp://xxx.bppe.ca.gov/forms_pubs/approval_operate.pdf
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A lot of improvements concerning their  degree programs (e.g BSc in CS). Just wait a while...Your BSU competitor will be stronger than ever and also...cheaper ;)

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how much are you getting paid to this ?

Great job exposing this diploma mill and their uneducated buyers.  Personally, I respect Rochville University graduates somewhat more for being honest in their degree purchasing.

oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2010/07/diploma_mills_lessons_from_the.html

Diploma mills: Lessons from the Galle and Colvin cases 
Published: Monday, July 19, 2010
By Alan Contreras - Aadministrator of the Oregon Office of Degree Authorization.

Here's the Top 10 sources of invalid degree reports or inquiries received by ODA:

Almeda University 
Belford University 
Breyer State University 
Canyon College 
Corllins University 
MUST University 
Rochville University 
Rushmore University 
Washington International University

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(You Are Working For Capella) (!)

LMAO

That is true for anyone seeking a real degree and a real education.

Go to Capella instead, BSU is not for you...!

I'm glad during my google search for Breyer State University, I came across this page.  I will never consider BSU as a place for my future education needs!!

BSU..PU!

As reported by the Oregon State Agency responsible for academic fraud last week - "Here's the Top 10 sources of invalid degree reports or inquiries received by ODA:

Almeda University 
Belford University 
Breyer State University 
..."

What an honor!  Changing my resume to Breyer "state" is an "AWARD-WINNING UNIVERSITY".  I am so proud.

Breyer State University has nothing to do with these schools that you mentioned. The difference is that they virtually sell degrees for a fee, while Breyer provides real education (you have to study hard to obtain a degree from BSU). Although, in accordance with your propaganda strategy you are trying to put BSU in the same category so that it is diminished in the eyes of prospective students and the general public. Good technique, you are a good "spin doctor".

Good list of the most common diploma mills, including BSU sister school Rochville.  Surprised by MUST University, never heard of it.

myfoxny.com/dpp/news/investigative/Fox_5_Investigates_School_Officials_Phony_Degree

I see that you continue your work... Good for you! The more you write, the more people are convinced that you're doing this for money. So, keep writing!

"whose overinflated ego led him to procure a phony mail-order doctorate so all would have to address him as "doctor." The state later forced him to drop the title."

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oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2010/07/diploma_mills_lessons_from_the.html

Diploma mills: Lessons from the Galle and Colvin cases 
Published: Monday, July 19, 2010
By Alan Contreras - Aadministrator of the Oregon Office of Degree Authorization.

Here's the Top 10 sources of invalid degree reports or inquiries received by ODA: 

Almeda University 
Belford University 
Breyer State University 
Canyon College 
Corllins University 
MUST University 
Rochville University 
Rushmore University 
Washington International University