DeVry University : Business Administration (Concentration in Technical Management) Reviews
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(Graduate) on March 20, 2012
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Three Degrees
I just completed my third degree at DeVry/Keller. My first degree (1996) was an AS in ET and I had a job(s) waiting for me after graduation with help from Devry. The second degree (BS in Technical Management), I completed on 2009 in hopes of furthering my understanding of current management practices for my current job. My third degree (MBA Information Systems), I completed end of 2011 in hopes of getting a better position with my current employer. In all programs I ended up with very good GPA's. While DeVry/Keller is an expensive school, it is also a fast paced school designed to get you moving towards your next goal. While education is great, it does not provide for actual hands-on experience you would get if you were just given the opportunity. While DeVry is not perfect by any means (none of us are), it does provide the education of the tools it sells. Unfortunately, with the economy being what it is, there is no way any education system can promise a job when completed because they don't run the companies that are hiring. Education and careers will always be what you put into them. In the end, it's up to the individual to make it happen. This country has gotten so lazy that people now want someone else to get a job for them. Nothing is certain, but Jesus.
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(In Progress) on January 27, 2011
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DeVry Profits Soar From Unethical Business Practices
Schools like DeVry only exist to make money, Not to educate, and each one is infamous for putting out uneducated and unprepared students. DeVry, ITT, etc. are glorified diploma mills who are helping to ruin the value of a college education by flooding the job market with meaningless degrees. Every employer I've talked about this with regards these schools as a joke and some even see a "degree" from one of these as an instant disqualifier. Everyone I've talked to who has attended one of these schools has said the education was very easy and that they weren't getting much out of it.
The student is tricked into thinking that going to DeVry will put them on a stable career track when in reality they end up exactly where they were before, lacking any serious credentials but with the additional burden of tens of thousands of dollars in debt to these fraudulent institutions. These schools are out to make a fortune on the backs of desperate young men and women, some of whom are parents and most of whom are poor.
I might have a different opinion on regulation if these colleges were worth the cost and actually gave a quality education. But since that isn't the case, regulate the hell out of them
Brick and mortar traditional non profit schools are the best choices where the primary concern is education not the for profit con job DeVry thrives on. DeVry is a Business institution so don’t fall for the hype from their savoir-faire employees. Their primary interest is profit not quality education. If you want a quality education, please do yourself a favor & look elsewhere.
Enrolled at DeVry but DeVry failed to provide the quality education it promised. Incompetent financial staff made several mistakes by not updating student payments and files always giving lame excuses and misleading information. There was a lack of qualified instructors to teach their courses which made it impossible to continue my education at DeVry.
The main reason consumers remove their complaints from companies like DeVry is because they are threatened with lawsuits among other threats. Most businesses like DeVry know the unlikelihood of students taking legal actions against their well-paid aggressive lawyers. DeVry is known to hire people simply to review any negative comments & complaints against them on the Internet. These people are paid employees of DeVry to defend the reputation of their company regardless of the amount of legitimate complaints against them. Ever wonder why DeVry expands their business to areas where they know they’ll get the most tuition paid for through government grants. The company has expanded their operations in poorer Latin American markets like Brazil & are looking to expand more abroad in developing countries like China & India. There remains a lack of government regulations with businesses like DeVry failing to protect the consumers who are misled by false promises in providing a superior university education. DeVry’s executives are well-aware how easy it is to get rich taking advantage of students who won’t have the resources necessary to hire a lawyer protecting their student rights when they are ripped off. AND RIP OFF IS WHAT DEVRY IS. Don’t be fooled by their ads or recruiting personnel. These are well-trained individuals working only for DeVry’s best interests and they make big money for every enrolled student who signs a contract. Do the research and be aware that most of the encouraging comments posted for DeVry are made by paid employees and not actual students. Students rarely have time from their studies to post complaints if they weren’t legit and if DeVry provided them an upright education.
Brick and mortar traditional non profit schools are the best choice where the primary concern is education not the for profit con job DeVry thrives on. DeVry is a business institution so don’t fall for the hype from their savoir-faire employees. Their associates are well-paid to mislead consumers to sign their contract. Hook, line and sinker is what they say. DeVry’s primary interest is profit and not quality education. If you want a quality education, look elsewhere.
If for-profit schools were delivering a worthwhile education then why are they suing the U.S. government to stop the new rules & regulations which would be imposed upon them July 1, 2011. What are they afraid of? The rules are part of a larger package of new regulations being imposed on for-profit schools, accused of churning out poorly educated students with large debts.
One rule challenged by the suit would stop deceptive advertising by schools, another bars recruiters from being paid based on how many students they enroll and a third requires states to authorize post-secondary schools for their students to be eligible for federal loans.
The lawsuit did not challenge the yet-to-be-finalized and most controversial of the reforms -- the "gainful employment" rule.
That rule would require schools to show that students are paying back federal loans or can do so. Students at schools that fall short would be barred from receiving federal loans, which would cripple most For-profit schools like DeVry. Our economy cannot sustain any more failures in government regulation & corporate mismanagement.
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Kladuc
(Graduate) on August 27, 2010
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Great Education- very hard though
I completed my BS in Technical Management (Operations mgmt) in 2008. It took 2 years, and I was able to transfer a good number of classes I completed from a 2 year school. This school is NOT for anyone who needs their hand held, or wants to give the teacher an apple to get a good grade. It's very hard work, 8 weeks to finish a normal semester. I already had an AAS from a very good school, and the teachers @ DeVry were very knowledgable and had great work histories. Their support staff was pleasant. I know this may contrary to previous reviews, but I can't but think that some of the other reviews were "kids" hoping that online courses would be a piece of cake. Make no mistake, this is a real college, with real teachers, teaching tough courses. You get out of it, what you put in it.
Yes it is very expensive, but for some, me included, it was the only real way I could go back and get my degree. (Magna Cum Laude 3.8 gpa, class 2008)
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Angiefederico
(In Progress) on July 1, 2010
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Not worth thhe time or money
I started with DeVry and graduated with a degree in Business Management. I was turned on by the ease of learning on my time, 24/7, whenever and wherever and I bought into the hype about DeVry and their regional accreditation, that emplyers would embrace me when I graduated.
The truth was something else. The courses were so, so. Teachers okay, about on par with my high school teachers, maybe not even that good. The real shock was when I asked career services for help. Prior to enrollment I was told that DeVry had over a 92% job placement success ratio. However, in the real world it is much less.
Finding work was difficult and the only jobs I was offered were low paying entry level positions in most cases not even in my selected field.
My real concern about DeVry is the outlandish claims they make about job placement and high incomes when you graduate. I was told that I could expect to earn $1.4 million more with my degree than with just a high school diploma. I know people with only a GED who earning the same as me, some more based on tenure.
Also here is an interesting article that appeared on the internet telling the truth about colleges and the high income propaganda.
http://finance.yahoo.com/college-education/article/109946/college-big-investment-paltry-return?mod=edu-continuing_education
Education is certaintly a value. How unfortunate that schools like DeVry are exploiting this field, making wild claims and taking advantage of people like myself who have the drive, desire, ambition and fortitude to make something of ourselves.
Shame on you DeVry!
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(In Progress) on May 2, 2010
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Devry works out...if you do!
I have attended Devry for four courses now. I am getting my Bachelors in Finance. Yes, Devry is a tad expensive...compared to community colleges!!!
So far my professors, with actual doctorates, have shown extra-ordinary expertise in their fields. Devry hires part-time instructors...mostly. They "currently" work in their career fields, or operate their own consulting firms or commercial companies. You get real world knowledge at Devry. This school is for-profit. If you choose to be a lacky, they will not treat you like one, but you will not succeed. They're not going to force success down your throat. Student services, registration, and administration are kind, outgoing, and helpful. They will bust their butt for you, because most Devry campuses are small. There are 93 of them. Staff knows your name, your not going to get that a huge university, unless you're an athlete.
Devry is great for working adults. Some courses are online, and some may be partially in class for lectures. I do both. Classes are challenging. If they are not challenging enough for you...great...transfer to Harvard or MIT when you can. It all depends what you are trying to achieve with your degree. Devry is quick to place students on academic probation, but will help you by every means to graduate. They expect a C or better on all coursework.
Classes are like 10-30 students. It's good because the professor can focus on individual needs. They actually care, will answer any questions for you, and give you their phone numbers and personal email addresses. You are not just a number in big lecture hall, large campus, or in dorms. School is not distracting with sports and prepy organizations to keep your mind detoured from studies. Devry is business at it's best. If you are about learning, and are ready to buckle down and do what your professors ask of you, then you are on the right track with Devry. They will take your tuition, like any school, but it's up to you to make your education worthwhile.
Basically, if you work hard to acheive your goals, have a strong sense of self, and are motivated to get where you want to be in life, your choice of educational institution is not "too" relevant. Name brand helps, reputation does play a role, but in the end you are the "major factor". Perhaps, some of you cannot sell yourselves in the real world. Relying on that piece of paper as your only credential or value in the workforce is the wrong way to go. If you don't got it, you just don't got it! Make sure you have strong interview skills, and lucrative supporting creditionals along with your degree, before trying to enter the workforce.
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(Graduate) on December 27, 2009
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all lies
I Graduated from DeLie .. err.. DeVry with a 3.9 Magna Cum Laude Majored in BSTM with my concentration in NCM (network communication management). I went to the school in Fremont CA, missed no days, and I know nothing about networking, routing, voip, switching. etc.. I still don't have a job, obviously from lack of skill, because I have the credentials. Devry made a lot of promises to me about what I would be learning, it was all lies.. and now I have a 60 thousand dollar loan to pay back. I have made some mistakes in life, we all have, but hands down, the biggest mistake of my entire life was going to devry. I lost my time, my money, my drive to strive for knowledge in computer networking. all gone, due to devry.
Now I am forced to go back to school, to really learn what I should have already been taught. I went there to learn skills in networking, but all they did was bog me down with core classes that I already took in another college, I transferred to devry after I got my AA degree, with a 4.0 (and was nominated for valedictorian by the way). but for devry, that wasn't good enough, I had to RETAKE all my math classes, down to basic algebra for some reason, some excuse about the class code number of my math class was lower then devrys, so it wouldn't qualify. my statistic class got disbanded due to the teacher was nuts, no really, I'm not kidding, I complained and had the school send in another teacher to "sit in" on his lectures and the next day the class was disbanded and we got a new teacher, I have pictures. In another class, data basing, we (the whole class, 15-20 of us students) got to sit outside the class, on the floor, for 2 hours, because the class was locked and then to find out why, it was because there was no teacher scheduled to teach the class, so they just made the IT manager of the school teach it, that was a joke, she didn't know the material or have a lesson plan, how could she, she's not a teacher and that's not her job in the first place. I can go on and on, about drug use in the parking lot, and the ongoing failures of the school. but it just makes me more and more depressed.
just don't find out the hard way like I did, the only good devry has done for me, is to motivate me to get my master degree, because I'm too ashamed to admit being a devry student and if anyone ask me where I graduated from I want to say some other school..
p.s. as a final insult, when I got my degree, it said I graduated cum laude. that class that was disbanded, because I was a whistleblower they gave me a C and that killed my GPA. Leo Storm, Fremont CA.
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