DeVry Univesity

Kelli July 25, 2007 at 2:11 a.m.

Does anybody out there know anything about Devry? Since I've been doing research on the internet all the comments have been bad. Some were good, but the bad out weighed the good. Alot of people weren't pleased at all with their education. Can someone that has attended this school give me some info. Thanks

Jill August 2, 2007 at 1:11 a.m.

FYI about those bad comments: DeVry was founded in 1931 as a real brick and morter school in Chicago. That was over 75 years ago so people who say they are worthless must have been lazy in class, because I think they would have ironed out most of the wrinkles by now. Obviously it didn't go online right away, so if you go online really do your research before making a commitment. Many people seem to assume that like many online programs, it is not a real school and therefore not worth the time and money. If you really do your research and don't beleive all the BS out there, you will find that this is not the case with DeVry.
Advise... do you know what type of work you want to do? Call companies in that field and talk to HR, see if they take DeVry seriously. Some don't, but many do. Those that don't are being ignorant in my opinion, but like I said check with hiring personel and recruiters at large companies to decide if this is the right school for you.
By the way, I am a student at DeVry. I don't own DeVry stock and I don't plan on being a staff member there, so promoting DeVry won't get me a promotion or bonus or anything like that. I've read a lot of negetive reviews saying they are for-profit and therefore not a school, but all private schools are for profit whether you like it or not, even K-12 private schools.

HATED IT December 1, 2007 at 7:44 a.m.

I HATE Devry Uni. I attended the campus in Philly. THey rushed to fit me in and told me that since I was military that I didn't need to worry about going to financial aid. THey mentioned something about an ecard but never told me the sepcifics. They only wanted money and did not try to help me do anything else. I HATE them and suggest that anyone NOT attend there. I was so stupid in attemping to graduate there. They didn't even process my VA benefits!!!!! THey will only help you when it's time to process money. That's the truth!!!!

Mary December 16, 2007 at 8:47 p.m.

I'm graduating as an on-line student in CIS. It was very difficult but I learned a lot. Many assume that on-line schooling is a joke but I didn't consider it the case. I think that employers will take a computer graduate from DeVry serious because it is a business related field. I know some IT professionals that never graduated with any computer-related degree and are doing well.

My advice is to consider the field of study and if you are considering to go further in your education before deciding to study at DeVry. In my case, I'm a mature individual that has a well established life. I am not considering to go any further with my education.

Any school you go to is concerned with taking in cash from the students so DeVry is no different from the rest. I've never heard of a University that was not concerned with regularly taking in money from students. College educations are not free (unless scholariships or other arrangements are made).

dejohnny January 26, 2008 at 6:22 p.m.

I think employers are mainly concerned with the following criteria: your skill set, intelligence, experience, and education credentials. Employers typically will hire candidates based on these criteria, and anyone who has scored high enough in all of these categories will be considered for the position they are seeking. However, the school and their curriculums do influence the hiring manager’s decision, as to whether or not you have the potential to fit in. Also, your ability to learn new skills on the job, are greatly influenced by the level of difficulty of the program you were in, as well as the school's overall reputation. In addition to that, employers are also seeking highly intelligent people, which they will generally find at highly ranked schools.

Now this brings me to ask this question. What is the definition of a highly ranked school or top tier school?

Well here's my criteria based on what the experts say.

1. A school with a very rigorous program.
2. Professors who are working on cutting edge research.
3. Difficult to get into. Highly competitive enrollment.
4. Curriculum meets or exceeds current standards.
5. A school that has a decent Engineering, Medical, and Computer Science programs.
6. Holds regional and program specific accreditation.
7. The number of professors with phD’s in Engineering, Math, and Science.

If your school has met 5 out of 7 of these, then it’s a good school. And as a matter fact DeVry has met criterion for 1, 4, 5, 6 and 7.

Although DeVry is not a research institution, it is on the cutting edge as far as their curriculum is concerned. The school provides all of their students with up-to-date Textbooks, Software, and materials, and more importanly students are taught by professors with theoretical and practical experience.

DeVry has always had the best equipped libraries, technical labs, computer labs, and game simulation labs, and medical labs. DeVry gives you everything you need to be a successful student. But sometimes we get the nay-sayers out here who want to bash DeVry for their failure to succeed. It is not DeVry's fault that you have not gotten your dream job, it’s your’s.

I graduated Spring '06, and was recruited at a job fair there in '07. Now I have my dream job making $75k/yr.

Remember these:

a. Skill Set
b. Intelligence
c. Experience
d. Education credentials

dejohnny CIS '06

Response to: IT prof February 16, 2008 at 6:54 a.m.

Response to: IT prof who posted a comment on December 7, 2007. DeVry is an accredited University. Check it out yourself! http://devry.edu/whydevry/accreditation....

DeVry is a great school and has been around for over 75 years. 93% of U.S. DeVry graduates in the active job market were employed in their fields within 6 months of graduation making $43,000 a year.

Get your facts straight!

dejohnny March 25, 2008 at 2:40 p.m.

You are right on the point Jason, you hit it right on the nail.

dejohnny March 28, 2008 at 9:44 p.m.

Where have you seen the words "Devry grads need not apply"? First of all, I can't remember ever seeing these words used by any potential employers. And second, I believe it is illegal to discriminate against any degree holder of an accredited degree.

DeVry University - has departments in Business(BSBA)/Engineering(MSEE)/Biomedical Engineering(BSMET).

Ross University - has Medical Doctor(MD)/Veterinary Doctor(DV) departments.

Keller - has Graduate programs in Management(MBA).

Chamberlain College of Nursing - provides BS in Nursing (RN).

Please get your facts straight, before you pass judgment.

dejohnny March 31, 2008 at 2:56 p.m.

There are some people who have been misinformed about DeVry University. When I graduated from DeVry, I was accepted into the following Graduate schools:

Boston University
Emory University
Georgia Tech
Kennesaw State University

I opted for Kennesaw University because of the program. I will be graduating in Spring '08 with a Master of Science in Computer Science. Go figure!

Brennen f. April 10, 2008 at 5:57 a.m.

I live in cali and for all the people saying bad things about devry its up their with the cal polys they are actually next door to cal poly pomona its not a school you can just buy your degreee you work your tail offf then you get what you want nothing in this world is free you have to bust your asss for ne thing theirs 50 mill people you do the math oh and we have been in a depression thanks to my bush the alcholic who went to harvard and his fathe rpaid for the degreee so you be the judge junior college is no better then ne one all they want is money then tell ur self to screw ur self.

to dejohnny April 11, 2008 at 2:56 a.m.

You must be a UoP grad. This is the Devry thread you tard!

dejohnny April 14, 2008 at 10:22 p.m.

...And I will be a Kennesaw State University grad in a few weeks!

dejohnny April 22, 2008 at 7:51 p.m.

There is no stain left on my educational credentials at all, and I am very proud to be a DeVry University graduate. In fact, I've received hundreds of phone calls from recruiters and business owners who are looking to hire me.
I don't know for sure why you are prejudice against DeVry, but I've always felt that folks tend to put DeVry in the same category with ITT Tech, UoP, AIU, and others.
I understand that everyone has there own opinion on this matter, but it's unfortunate that some folks are so narrow minded on this issue, and aren't willing to give someone a chance to prove themselves, without first getting the facts.
We've seen Yale and Harvard University graduates ruin entire corporations and their employees lives both morally and economically(i.e Enron). So how do equate these top-tier graduates performance, work ethic, and success to their educational credentials.

dejohnny April 23, 2008 at 9:23 p.m.

Dear Anonymous one,
Since you're the expert on this matter, can you tell us which school you graduated from?

Alex April 24, 2008 at 5:01 a.m.

I have been reading a lot of responses and it seems that the people who hate devry the most, are people who didn't even go there. Which seems kind of weird.

I think in the end its all about what you know. I have heard from a lot of employers that its about what you know, not where you went to school. Like art type jobs, people care more about your portfolio and the same with programming. So it doesn't matter where you went because if I have an awesome portfolio and didn't go to college, I could still get a good job. So just research what people in the field you want to go in really look for when hiring someone.

Also, look at the richest men in America, very few of them graduated from college. Not saying you shouldn't go to college but just pointing that out that its all about what you know and how smart you are.

Wes April 25, 2008 at 3:45 p.m.

It really comes down to the individual, and that individuals situation. A degree from a 'brick and mortar' university where you have to actually attend classes will undoubtedly be more widely accepted than an online program. If an individual has the time and resources, a degree from a regular university should be their first and only choice. However, adults who have to work full time to support a family, or people in the military who are regularly deployed and would like to achieve a degree will find it more practical to look into schools like DeVry, UoP, Grantham, etc. Which is the main reason these online programs were designed: For people who are too GD busy to attend regular classes, or who would like to achieve a bachelors or masters in a reasonable amount of time without going to regular college night classes part time for eight or more years.
Currently there are companies that will not hire graduates from online schools, but there are plenty of places out there that will, and online programs are becoming more and more accepted every day. You will get out of a DeVry degree what you put into it. If you really buckle down and learn the technical aspects and coursework of your chosen degree, you will come across as intelligent and knowledgable in your field during interviews. You've got to be a self motivated individual, able to handle the commitments of a full time job and raising a family, or working 16 hour shifts in a combat zone overseas while putting forth effort into achieving your degree. You will have to research the school, put effort into your studies, and finally get out there and put effort into getting a job. It takes EFFORT, and I guarantee that the reason certain companies won't hire DeVry or UoP graduates is because they had bad experiences in the past with lazy MF's who slacked and cheated their way through, and wound up not learning ANYTHING, so not only did they screw up when it actually came time to prove themselves at their job, but they screwed it up for the rest of us. However, most good employers will realize the amount of effort it takes to obtain a degree with so many demands, and will be able to tell your level of competence by speaking with you.
So, the capacity and temptation is there for lazy people to cheat (which happens in any school), but like I said, you get out of it what you put into it, and it depends on your situation. Me? Married, one kid. Spent two years overseas with the Army National Guard, now I'm back home working full time in a factory making $9.00/hr. I'm pretty sure given my situation that even a degree from DeVry can only lead up from here, plus the VA will pick up my tab. I've also had a friend on the police force earn his bachelor's in criminal justice from UoP and got a good promotion. So an online degree will help advance your current career as well.

dejohnny April 28, 2008 at 3:34 p.m.

This a response to Anonymous person#2,

The reason why you transfered to another school is simply because you perceive Software Engineering to be easier than Game & Simulation Programming. But I have news for you, it's not easier and it requires you to do a lot of research and write ton's papers (very little programming). The Game & Simulation Programming program is very challenging, and some folks out there think it's going to be a relatively easy program to complete, from start to finish. Well it isn't!
Beware! If your are not strong in Calculus, Physics, Discrete Math, and Software programming, you will not be able to do it!

dejohnny April 28, 2008 at 3:44 p.m.

This response is to the person who said "DeVry=SCAM",

Don't hate because you couldn't hang in there!

I went to DeVry, and it took me 4+ years to graduate and I'm very happy with my career. No problem here!

dejohnny April 29, 2008 at 4:37 p.m.

This response is to the person who said "DeVry=SCAM",

Which State are you living in, and were you able to find a good there?

KBeazley May 2, 2008 at 6:29 a.m.

Note: I meant to refer to 'Devry=SCAM!' in my last post, NOT 'dejonny'. Unfortunately, there is no editing of previous posts.

kyle May 9, 2008 at 4:57 a.m.

devry is a joke and they have a call center in thailand hahahahaa i heard it when i spoke to their financial aid office, they have a horrible accent and they go like ta ta everytime you want some answers.

Highschool student May 15, 2008 at 1:27 a.m.

Well, i was considering deVry, and i may still consider it (for an electronics engineering course).

What with some of the rumors going around, though, i'm kind of feeling that DeVry is sort of a cult. They make you feel really good about joining it, tell you that you're perfect for the school, etc. etc. And they give you, as some people (and employers) claim, sub-standard education.
I think i'm going to check out the campus nearest me and see what all the hubub is. For now, i'm not going to sign any application.

DeVry Graduate May 16, 2008 at 2:48 a.m.

To all you worms who dismiss those hard earned degrees from DeVry as worthless pieces of paper: I PRAY I encounter you in this life! You arrogant son of a bitch - how dare you dismiss the hard work others have put forth in their studies towards their education. Fool! People who are dedicated can learn more in libraries than most formal institutions where dumbass professors spew their bullsh*% and people like you lap it up as if it's a 5 star occassion.

So your ignorant highness knows, I attended DeVry because it accomodated my schedule while working with the 3rd largest banking institution in the country. While you were sitting in class stroking your professor, I was implementing systems that supported over 40bb in quarterly revenue. Not too mention, I was a technical manager and architected globally distributed high-volume (190k+ user) applications, traveling around the world, and programmed sophisticated applications.

You my friend can kiss my English ass! If God grants me the gift of encountering one of you fools, I'll be happy to show you how uneducated and uncivilized one can become when pukes like you want to show their decrepit intellect by denigrating someone elses!

Horrible school May 17, 2008 at 6:09 a.m.

I attended DeVry for three semesters. During my education, my average was very high, but learnt so little. I am in process of going to a real school. Please save your money and choose your education wisely. This school is too easy, as DeVry is only concerned in pushing people through to get more money. In the end you end up with overpaid, worthless education that is not well received by employers.

Robert May 21, 2008 at 4:43 p.m.

I work for a fairly major banking entity in the corporate IT department. I play a large role in the hiring in my department, and I can tell you, DeVry, ITT Tech, UoP, AIU etc etc are in the same category. That category being if that is the only thing on the resume, we will not consider them. This is from direct experience with employee performance from those... places. Personally even with experience out side of one of the above named education facilities, I will vote a negative. They strike me as a degree mill, and the examples i have personally seen in addition to information from co-workers, especially DeVry, flag them as a do not call on a resume. Unless you have absolutely no other avenues to follow for education I highly advise against DeVry.

DeVry student May 25, 2008 at 4:05 a.m.

I am a DeVry student for the last 6 months. I am very disappointed with the level of education here. I feel that I was ripped off as I didn’t gain anything yet of what I expected to get. Looks like the program here developed for the high school grads but not for the people with some real life experience, not for the adults. Math class here is a JOKE. You can go online for an answers and professor don’t care about you knowledge, just don’t skip classes and you will be fine. It is obvious that about 70-80% of students would fail this class if it would be restricted online access. If you want to have a high GPA score – that’s the right place to go, but if you want knowledge, then consider local state U. That’s what I am going to do for my fall semester. I know that I’ll spend twice more time to get the degree but I am sure that it will be worth it. Also it's going be two times cheaper. I spent so much money already; hopefully I’ll have at least some credits for this time, if not, I’d have to deal with it. Another part of sad story : recently it was a job fair in Atlanta and there were many well known companies and high rank institutions and none of them would accept DeVry education…(they will accept your resume but will not consider you as a potential emploee) I wasn’t even allowed to walk in, and that was a BIG sign that I really have to think of something before it is not too late.

DeVry is a rip off May 29, 2008 at 8:41 p.m.

I was reading a lot of the comment and I agree when I first got to Devry to pursue my degree in business they made it seam as if I only had a certain amount of class to complete my degree considering I had transfer credits they also stated that I will finish my degree in two years. Well that was a lie I ended up spend a little over three years with all of my credits transferred, to make matter worse, the trick is they let you get a class or two away from graduation and then they say you need more classes. The academic advisers are clueless and only care if your financial aid form is done and your loans are approved.

After I got my BA I swore I would NEVER attend Devry again but I call and inquired about there alumni rate were your were suppose to get half off tuition. The enrollment person stalked me for two months until I sign up again, then the academic adviser again said that I only had five class to complete my second BA. Well also half done they told me the official dements that the adviser sent me was wrong and I cant get alumni rate and I had an extra four class on top of the five I was only suppose to have. What a rip off so I really don’t know what to say. I would not recommend this school

Devry=SCAM! June 5, 2008 at 12:24 a.m.

Devry and then a make up degree @USC.

Common Sense June 6, 2008 at 7:35 a.m.

to dejohnny: You sure know the ins and outs about Devry. Even more than an average student would be able to find out through research. It's to a point you sound like a typical devry counselor. A Devry counselor has to know the ins and outs of their product just like any salesperson would have to to make a sale. I totally respect that. I think you busted yourself when you said "I've received hundreds of phone calls from recruiters and business owners who are looking to hire me." How many resumes did you send out? Based off statistics, to receive "hundreds" of phone calls from employers who are looking to hire you, you should have sent out thousands of resumes to get the call volume you mentioned. Even if you received only 100 phone calls you should have sent out about 700-800 resumes. Not only is that statement is untrue, its the same thing a devry counselor would say to get the sale. That, I can't respect. You are so use to it now that you even believe what you say. Typical unscruplous salesman tactics. Thats sad to use the old bait and switch on people like that. Your comment on January 26, 2008 at 6:22 p.m. is very convincing for those who are not open minded.

I studied sales. I'm in sales, but were definitely different. You are the type that make good sales people look bad. There are ways to pay your bills and feed your family honestly. Stop with the posing and keep it real.

Senior at Devry June 7, 2008 at 8:11 a.m.

Since I'm in the military and either move every so often or am deployed fighting for some of your sorry @$$es to discredit everyone, I find DeVry to be very beneficial to my lifestyle. I find that the most ignorant comments come from folks that seemed to have a preconceived notion that a four year degree will actually make them rich or get them their dream job. Also, most negative comments left are from very illiterate individuals that are pissed off since they didn’t pass and are now stuck with debt and loans. As I can tell from your posts...most of you don't have the ability, intelligence or drive to make it through any four year school and had a bad experience with the above mentioned schools. A degree, no matter where you graduate from, is worthless, if you can’t apply it somewhere. I work with a civilian in the Army, who recently was hired that graduated from DeVry. He is a quality individual that took the time to not only rely on his degree but also accumulate the technical IT certifications to complement his degree. Most degrees and jobs for that matter have the same relation. You first get the academic knowledge for your job, and then you pursue the institutional knowledge. This is usually technical or job specific knowledge that is needed by your would be employers such as professional license or certifications. By the way he also served 22 years in the military and now makes well over $100K. Yes after college you need more training!

Senior at Devry June 7, 2008 at 8:13 a.m.

I’m currently taking all 400 levels courses and find them challenging. They are all networking courses and yet I have been a wide area network controller for nearly 12 years; I still find them challenging. I will agree that some students slip through the cracks and manipulate the online discussion. However, when I have brought this to the attention of the professor or other officials, the situation has always been resolved. One last note, if you want to give your money away on something you don’t expand on or use properly to get a good job, then feel free! I will continue at DeVry and graduate this fall. Next, I intend on finding a Master’s program that builds on this. Researching, having a plan, setting attainable goals and following through with them will get you a job, no matter where your degree is from!

ThatsFunny June 7, 2008 at 8:14 p.m.

to Senior at Devry: What you said makes everyone who tries to read your message illiterate. If I comprehended what you said correctly, it looks like you are looking for some attention boasting about your self-centered self and insulting others. Grow up. Also don't take it out on us because you decided to join the military. You are probably just the clean up crew like your civialan colleague and coming on here claiming you are fighting for our country. You obviously don't know politics because you feel you are fighting for us, the sorry a@^es. But the truth is, you are fighting for the government political ambitions, not us, the citizens of the US. At least stay on topic! And that isn't you.

Your buddy had went out to get more certifications to over-ride what Devry claims, but does not follow through. I would choose someone with respected IT certifications with no college degree before I would consider someone who has a Devry degree with no certifications.

Devry=SCAM! June 8, 2008 at 4:28 a.m.

I don't know about the self rightious Senior who is protecting my "sorry arse" but it sounds like you have some serious misconceptions about who we are. First off, I couldn't care less about you being in the military... that is your personal choice in a volunteer military. Nobody made you go. The only reason to bring that up is to play the sympathy card which doesn't work here.

Many of us are Devry graduates, I had a 4.0 so I didn't have any problem getting through the program. It was too darned easy. You think it helps you get in the door but it doesn't. Doors were slammed in my face at every interview figurativly speaking. One of my interviewers even chuckled when they went over my educational background at Devry. The hiring manager had to sideswipe them just to keep a straight face. You think your online program is accredited by ABET... NOT!! They only have three ground campuses that meet the TAC requirement and that is the easiest standard ABET gives out. I have since completed a BSSE with a concentration in Gaming from USC. I now have the job I want... no thanks to Devry! You know it as well as the rest of us which is why you're going for a masters. Good luck with that!!

Devry=SCAM! June 9, 2008 at 5:09 a.m.

I saw some job adds that were linked to the uopsucks site that said UoP and Devry grads need not apply. They have been removed due to the positions being filled but I think they preserved them over there. Let me find the link...

Joe June 13, 2008 at 5:37 a.m.

Employers will see it on your application and may make a slight difference in the hiring process. Your school of completion will overshadow the work you did in the other school as that is the diploma that will hang on your wall. However, a degree is better than no degree. If it is the only viable option then you really should do it.

Like many people going to a state school you could take out extra student loans to cover the costs of quitting a secnod job until you finish. That way you get a degree everyone respects and you don't have to worry about the online stigma. If you only have one year to go it shouldn't cost you that much compared to the earning power a state school will give you. Plus, in-state tuition is often cheaper anyway.

tyrone b June 24, 2008 at 2:52 a.m.

SCREW KELLER AND DEVRY THEY DONT HAND OUT REFUND CHECKS IN TIME THEY SUCK WAS KICKED OUT FROM SCHOOL

David November 2, 2008 at 6:15 p.m.

Here is the facts.

DeVry is accredited.

They are WAY overpriced.

For tech sujbects... very good. Others not so much.

DO NOT GO TO THE ONLINE SCHOOL!!!

The teaching style can be summed up this way:

Research it and cite your source.

In other words...

I pay $70,000 for a 4 year degree (going part-time) to teach myself.

I see no value here.

I am a former student and after a few classes I decided to remain a trucker.

Here is why.

Degree = 4yrs and about $40k/ year, and big debt in loans.

Trucking = 3 weeks at truck driving school at a cost of $3k to $4k and you come out with gaurinteed career making $30k to $40k to start. Some truckers can earn upwards of $75,000 to $90,000 and be home everyday. (Line-Haul drivers)

So, if you want to spend big $$$ and work in an office... go to school.

If you want to spend double the price of a traditional school and teach yourself... go to DeVry.

If you want to earn a solid living and work outside... get a CDL.

Good Luck.

Real Life November 16, 2008 at 7:34 a.m.

I find it hard to believe that an interviewer would chuckle when seeing "Devry" on a resume during an interview for a "real" job. For one thing, the company and interviewer has already reviewed your resume before inviting you to the interview, so they would not waste they're time on someone who's education did not match the job description. If you were laughed at during the interview it was probably something you did, not something on your resume. The real world almost mirrors this message board in my experience. You are going to find a few people in hiring positions that absolutely do not respect it, and feel very strongly about hiring someone from a traditional 4-year institution. You will also find managers who are willing to hire you(possibly DeVry grads themselves...?).
If two guys go to an interview with exactly the same experience- one with a DeVry degree, and one with a traditional 4-year- who do you really think is going to get the job? Unless the guy with the DeVry degree has a stunning personality and somehow completely astonishes the manager during the interview, 9 times out of 10 the latter one is going to win. Should that discourage someone from getting a DeVry degree. I don't think so.
Yes, there are some people who feel strongly negative about DeVry (and for some reason which I do not understand seem to get very emotional about the subject and like to throw insults and otherwise belittle people in faceless forums like this), but here's the truth-
Most reasonable people understand that it did take work to get your DeVry degree, and it is not a "diploma mill". Do I think you are going to get a design engineer job right out of the gate? No. Are you going to get a shot at a "real" professional position? If you keep applying- Yes. Someone somewhere will give you a shot with a DeVry degree. Whether or not you can run with the ball once you get your shot is up to you.
In my opinion if you are just graduating high school and have the grades/funds, shoot at a four year school. Or even a vocational school that focuses on a trade like carpentry (and yes some people will turn they're nose up at you for this also, but if you have a trade you like and are good at, you can have a very fulfilling life, and make plenty of money)
However if you are an adult, have children, working full time, working at a menial job you don't like etc. I really think that if you apply yourself and are competent enough to pass the courses, you will find success with a degree from DeVry. You will work a little harder to get it, and probably need to prove yourself more than a 4-year grad would, but in the end who cares if its putting you in a better position.

DeVry Advisor November 26, 2008 at 2:44 a.m.

I work at DeVry, were not called counselors, were called admissions Advisors. First off, to everyone who posted negative comments, why don't you guys focus more on finding a job than wasting your time bashing the school you graduated from. By doing that you're shooting yourself in the foot. You don't think employers read this? Why would they want to hire someone who doesn't even appreciate the school that they went to. Any school that you read about, you're going to have the negative people that are going to try to take down the school. But understand geniuses this isn't going to get your money back, and it's not going to turn back time. So why bother? No school can make everyone happy so that is the reality that everyone faces. If you're a student considering going to DeVry, don't believe everything you hear, find out for yourself, you might come to realize that your experience was a lot different than others. To DeVry=Scam, if you had a 4.0 and you're so smart, why did it take you til' graduation for you to realize that DeVry was a bad school, if this was the truth you would of seen it within the first session. Wow, you really deserve a job!lol I work at DeVry, but this isn't why I am defending the school, it's because I go to school here, I will admit some classes aren't challenging, but you have to make it a challenge.Instead of doing the bare minimum why not go the extra mile and take the initiative to learn more about the course you are taking. If you think that it is too easy then put it on yourself to put in extra work. As far as the Admissions Advisors lieing to you, they most likely no longer work here. Everything that you're told is right off the Web Site, meaning its public information, in the end we don't put guns to your head forcing you to sign up. You sign up,you pay the app-fee, you go through the registration process, and you go through financial aid. To top it off you're also responsible for maintaining your classes. If I talked to you DeVry=Scam I would have never signed you up, because you are ungreatful, and it makes me laugh to see how much energy you put into this when you should be looking for a job, because apparently unemployment has made you bitter. I have a friend who graduated from DeVry he is making 72k a year, and gets bonuses on top of that. He told me its not about the Degree its about the knowledge you retain, and what you can bring to the table. For those students who said that they feel that they didn't get enough out of the education, why haven't you taken it upon yourself to ask, or to learn more by yourself. School won't teach you everything you need to know, it will just give the basics, and tools to be successful.

Devry=SCAM! November 27, 2008 at 7:28 a.m.

You obviously didn't read the rest of my posts Mr. Schister. Yeah, that is what you are. You are no better than a used-car salesmen or telemarketers. By the time he got my phone number he was calling my answering machine several times a week and leaving me a bunch of email until I responded. When I got the sales pitch I could hardly believe what he was selling. He got me so excited about the Game and Simulation programing BS, telling me it was such a specialized degree that I was practically gauranteed a job in Game Design. I was told 95% of Devry grads were placed in a job in their field before or immediately after gradaution and that with this degree, I was sure to get one it was so special. I asked about Devry being ABET accredited as I knew it was very important that my degree have that. He said, oh yeah, sure. We have that. As it turned out, everything he said was a lie.

I had many academic advisors in my tenure at Devry. The retention is about 4-5 months. The AAs are supposed to stick with you through the first 3 terms but I had 4 in that time. When they handed my account over I had to talk to some new idiot who couldn't figure out my degree-completion plan. They wouldn't respond to my emails for weeks if ever. If I called them they would put me on hold hoping I would hang up. I was about to call it quits after the first year but I could handle my degree plan myself. I am not an idiot. I had a 4.0 after all.

As I entered my final term I was told the degree requirements had changed and that I would have to take 3 more classes. WTF?!? I had already been thinking this school was a scam b/c the math classes are too easy but I was already invested. When I was told this I wanted to withdraw right there but I was too close to a degree so I finished.

I went to the big job fair Devry puts on and passed out my application on all the programming tables. 4.0 student with a 95% chance to get a job so it should be 100%... right? WRONG! I got nothing so I began my own job search. I have already illustrated the troubles I had there. If Devry Advisor had read my posts he would know I transfered what Gen Eds I could to USC BSSE degree and now have the job I wanted. No thanks to Devry!

Blah Blah December 25, 2008 at 7:19 a.m.

I went to Devy, I make over 6 figures, I work for top software and hardware companies, my peers went to Stanford... blah blah

Please cut the BS.

Just my 2¢s

Devry=SCAM! January 1, 2009 at 5:11 a.m.

No not really, Devry is not what you put into it. It is what they give you. The course materials are outdated, the cirriculum is substandard, and many of the faculty are unhelpful. By the time you are finished HR is laughing you out of the interview. Save your 2¢s and go to a reputable school.

DeVry /Harvard/ whatever January 9, 2009 at 12:22 p.m.

I do not consider the college you go to to be relevant except that it needs to be accredited by a national body.
Do you know that GW Bush is a HARVARD graduate??? Enough said.
The point is that whether you go to DeVry , Harvard or State college, the textbooks being used are of the same material for each program. So if you are complaining that you don't have the knowledge because of some program you enrolled in at some university, it is more than likely your own fault. Make sure you understand and study course materials and you should have NO problems at all.

I have a ? January 11, 2009 at 2:34 p.m.

Hello,

I would like to ask some current students who take the courses online how do you get the books and materiel's (e.g. are they sent to you via postage overnight?) Also, if there is a delay in receiving the books (e.g. 7-10 days) then when does your start date begin since there is a delay in receiving the materiel's. How does Devry handle this or how does it work?

All comments are welcomed!

Thanks

Devry=SCAM! January 19, 2009 at 3:43 a.m.

Devry's online Tech programs are not ABET-TAC accredited. It is only at a handful of B&M campuses. Of course they never tell you that. Please begin inserting your foot into your mouth idiot.

DEVRY=SCAM! January 25, 2009 at 7:01 a.m.

You poor woman, you have no idea what you face. I to had a 4.0 and it got me nowhere. Any person that gives their classes a second thought can keep a 4.0 average online. The placement statistics are an all-out lie. If you find yourself a decent job in your degree field then maybe you can come back here and toot your horn. You have no idea what a worthless piece of paper this degree is on the outside and how much this school has lied to you. Go ahead and finish, you will found out soon enough what I'm talking about.

To : DEVRY=SCAM January 28, 2009 at 7:02 a.m.

You realize that you've been posting on this thread for almost almost 9 months now? What exactly do you do these days? Do you religiously check this thread to put down people who say positive things about the school? That's akin to what a typical internet troll does. How can anybody here take you seriously when you've been wasting 9 months of your life putting down anonymous people on the internet?

If you put in half as much effort into genuinely applying yourself with a Devry degree and not on bitching about the school itself, I'm sure you wouldn't have the time to be posting here now.

What I found humorous about your rant was that you believed that just because Devry had a high employment placement statistic, you were exempt from working your ass off to actually get the job. That's like waving a lottery ticket and hoping it's a jackpot winner... and not even circling your numbers, even! It's immature and ultimately destroys your entire argument here. A rule of thumb is that employers don't generally care about the pedigree of the school as they do about what your experience. And guess what.. Devry gives you that.

And your "Devry grads need not apply" argument doesn't even hold a candle to the 90% statistic the school holds, student testimonials and obvious employer preferences.

ROFLMAO! January 30, 2009 at 7:57 p.m.

It looks to me like there is really just a small number of the same people here bashing DeVry under different names to give the illusion there are many people. I mean, how many people are stupid enough (for college grads, anyway) to write 2 cents this way: 2¢s? What, oh college grad with 4.0 GPA, is the 's' at the end for?

BTW, do you even know what a spellchecker is? Handy little application you might want to try if you wish to be taken seriously by fellow online forum posters or, say, potential job interviewers. Maybe they were laughing at how bad you spell... for a college grad with a 4.0, that is. Just MY two pennies.

Blah Blah December 25, 2008 at 7:19 a.m.

I went to Devy, I make over 6 figures, I work for top software and hardware companies, my peers went to Stanford... blah blah

Please cut the BS.

Just my 2¢s

Devry=SCAM! January 1, 2009 at 5:11 a.m.

No not really, Devry is not what you put into it. It is what they give you. The course materials are outdated, the cirriculum is substandard, and many of the faculty are unhelpful. By the time you are finished HR is laughing you out of the interview. Save your 2¢s and go to a reputable school.

ChosenOne January 31, 2009 at 2:26 p.m.

As a student at DeVry and soon a graduate, I must say that had I known a bit more about DeVry I would have chosen a different school, ie. State School (Georgia State or Kennesaw State). I am a transfer student from Southern University A&M College, where I played baseball, and a close friend of mine who is doing very well graduated from DeVry and Keller, had given me a little interest in the school system.

Well, this Summer I will start with a Big 4 Accounting Firm, actually the largest firm in the world.. hint hint... I must say that they were a bit shocked when they learned that I was a student from DeVry, but having maintained a 3.8 and tax experience with the IRS decorated my resume a bit.

At the end of the day, in regards to the employer and in my field of Accounting, it's all about character, personality and your ability to communicate effectively. Furthermore, it is your entire persona that attracts employers to you. You have to know how to sell yourself. Yeah Yeah, I go to DeVry and I am about to graduate, could I have chosen a better state school, yeah... I'm here now and I will make the best of it.

One true characteristic that I possess is that I am a hard working, wity individual and I will make something happen and that is the attitude that you have to have. Of course I am going to a state school for Graduate, but hey, it is what it is... True, going to DeVry, have I met many others like myself?... No... There are far more ignorant students that don't have a clue about life and the many possibilities that life has to offer.

To the nay sayers, I understand where you're coming from at the end of the day... What can you do for me?

I will be working for a Big 4 Accounting firm and I made it happen... I was in a huge interview session amongst Southern Cal, UGA, Penn St. and many other big schools and I outshined most of them and you can't tell me nothing.

ChosenOne February 1, 2009 at 5:17 p.m.

Well Big name accounting guy, sorry that you are consumed with so much hatred. Get over it, I'll be at a Big Four Firm and getting my Masters from a more reputable school. Get up get out and get something...

To Don : February 4, 2009 at 4:39 a.m.

Why not? I mean, no matter how good something is, there will always be people who bash on it. Especially on the internet. It's inevitable.

What do you want to do for a career? If you want to pursue something like IT or Business, Devry might be a fit for you. A BS from Devry will get you a job just as well as a BS from a traditional school. If your passion is something else (Art, English, History, Education), obviously Devry probably won't be for you.

Something else to consider is time restraint. I'm going to be working 40 hours a week, so Devry's flexible scheduling is very accommodating. For working adults in general, Devry seems to be a good fit. It's only for the young kids out of HS that think Devry isn't for them because it's much more focused. No parties, no frats, no sports. Work, work, work.

Hope that helps.

Chase February 6, 2009 at 10:25 p.m.

I believe everyone here has had different experiences with DeVry. Metophorically speaking it is like McDonalds. One can go in and be satisfied with their meal, and another could eat the same meal and be sick for three days. This still does not discredit McDonalds as a leading fast food chain.

I can agree with some in that DeVry is looking for money. But what college or University is not. Yes you will find different prices. My local college is $500 for 12credits. DeVry is running me $5000 for 12 credits. It is a big difference but the local college does not provide a specialized degree. I am getting a Bacholers degree in Network Communication Management. I have searched everywhere for a BS in the technology field, and all I find is Computer Science or Information System. I will choose the Networking. The only regret I have is that I am not getting the hands on experience at school. Although, I do work for a school district doing IT work, therefore I get the hands on experience at work while learning in the online environment. In addition, I could still move to a city that has a DeVry campus. It is your decision to choose the campus or online. I would not goto DeVry for a simple business degree, unless you are forced to choose online education. Even then major university offer cheaper and a better named degree plan. I would only attend DeVry if you are interested in Technology. Computer engineering, network communications, electrical engineering. My boss graduated DeVry under the electrical engineering program and became Director of Technology for our school district making 60-70k a year. It can be done. Jobs are looking for a degree to get passed HR, but they are looking for a person who has experience and knows how to get the job done.

I have alot to talk about DeVry because I have several opinions myself. I am currently enrolled and am going through the system. I do have to agree with some of the people saying the curriculum is a joke. I have had some classes that are a breeze, and the finals and tests have nothing to do with the material. But I have taken the 4 basic Cisco classes. The Ilab(virtual lab) experience has been a blast. I have been able to configure routers, and setup Active Directory on servers. Certain things that would require thousand dollar equipment to do.

I would recommend DeVry to anyone looking for a specialized degree in networking or computers. I would really recommend the online program for someone who wants those degrees, and cannot move to a city with Universities. What I do not recommend is going there for a business degree, or expect to have cheap tuition. But, as you can see some of the comments are from people who did the business program and have stable decent jobs.

Devry=SCAM! February 14, 2009 at 6:04 a.m.

So let me get this straight, everyone you have met who hates Devry are inarticulate, have no personality, and have no presence? Is that right? You must have met a pet-rock. If you are at Devry, every degree is a waste of money except the handful of ABET-TAC degrees they offer in IT on-ground.

You should have stayed at your big Southeastern Conference school where their Accounting degrees are AACSB accredited. I take it you flunked out of the program and lost your athletic scholarship because you couldn't keep your grades up. Oh yes, Devry is the perfect fit for you. If you think the difficulty of Devry is equal to an SEC school you must be a Devry employee to make such a ridiculous statement.

If you can to a state school then there is absolutely no reason to go to Devry: In-state tuition is cheaper, the degrees have better and more numerous professional accreditations, better faculty, the name-recognition alone is worth it. The only reason I went was because they offered a specialized degree that the state schools were not offering in Game and Simulation Programming. The Devry scam artists conned me into thinking I would have a leg-up, the only leg-up I recieved was when HR raised their leg to pee on my resume before it hit the trash. My make-up degree from USC landed me the job, not Devry. I was asked several times in interviews why I even bothered with Devry if I could cut it at Southern Cal. which verified that employers do not respect a Devry degree. The only people from Devry who get jobs in the field, already have jobs in the field. DO NOT go to this school if you are changing careers, worst mistake you will ever make!

Devry=SCAM! February 16, 2009 at 8:32 a.m.

Honestly dude, no one has refuted my points except by calling me a soar loser. That doesn't qualify... ever. When you make ridiculous comments like 'Devry is harder than an SEC school' no one takes you seriously.

The truth is, employers scoff at Devry grads. They will arbitrarily shun you due to your school. There is nothing left for them to discriminate against since it is illegal to do so against race, religion, gender, s*xual orientation. Employers WILL often question you about your school choices, especially if they are unfamiliar with it like those with Devry. It happened to me in every interview. I never went back for the same job position, I went to the same company and got a better job with my degree from Southern Cal. and did so because I networked with the gal who told me to come back after I implemented my short term goals.

Since I did get the job, I still come here to inform others how insufficient Devry is. I have been on both sides of the fence and the pastures are far greener here than the arid wasteland that is Devry job opportunities. I will continue to voice my disdain until this SCAM is shut down. It is my civic obligation. I not only 'cut it' at Devry, I graduated with a 4.0... please spare me the retorts. No one would leave Devry b/c it is too hard to go to a Tier 1 National unless they thought Devry was a joke... this was my case. Your hammer has not only missed the nail, you just smashed your toe.

You calling me a runt? Now that is a laugh Mr. Devry enrollment advisor. Why don't you crawl back to your cubicle and leave your lies for your SPAM autodial victims.

To DeVry=SCAM! February 16, 2009 at 7:51 p.m.

You sure do spend an abundance of your time on this site. What do you do for a living?

Devry=SCAM! February 18, 2009 at 5:20 a.m.

Do employers care about your school? If that is most of your resume then it is everything. I worked at Cisco, had an AA from Tech, and a degree from Devry. Cisco got me the interview... Devry didn't do jack. The employers like Cisco, it is a respected name, they laugh at Devry. Maybe if I had 20 years at Cisco, Devry wouldn't matter as much, but I was making a genre shift with a piece of paper that means nothing and a job that doesn't deal in gaming software. For Devry to offer a Simulation and Game Programming degree is a scam... they know no one will get a job with it.

So don't blame me for YOUR failure for assuming my situation. Devry has no business marketing that degree to kids who want to develop games and that is exactly what they do. They aren't targeting 50 year olds with a ton of experience to develop them, they are getting 20 somethings like I was to get ripped off by the SCAM that is Devry.

I went to Devry because they offered me a specialized degree and promised the world b/c it was so special. I checked around and no one had a degree with this focus. I fell for the hype like the stupid chump kid I was and after 5 years closing that wasted chapter in my life, I sit here to warn others to avoid my mistakes. I went to USC by taking evening/day courses and sacrifice sacrifice sacrifice ... OK?

Go back to your cubicle and scam someone else. People reading this know the truth.

Devry=SCAM! February 19, 2009 at 4:01 a.m.

According to your logic I would have to wait a couple decades before I would have a resume ready to get the job with Devry as my final. No thanks pal, I plan on retiring by then. My portfolio included program projects I did at Devry which earned A+s. The interviewers were not impressed when they loaded them up. I never made it past round one.

When I sat down for my classes at University Park, I learned just how deficient my degree from Devry had been. They missed among the most basic competencies, as well as watering down the more advanced concepts. What I know was an A at Devry is a D to an F at USC. There just isn't enough time for Devry to offer upper level courses... they have no business shortening the courses by a factor of two. It would work fine for an AS as that is what Devry is, a glorified technicial college.

I prepped and submitted my new portfolio and was hired at 7 Studios before I walked Alumni Park. From there, I moved to QuickSilver and you can find my work in the recent DMCTI Logistics Trainer used by the US Army. I have never had so much fun programming and it serves among the most important purposes for this nation.

You can call me a failure all you want... I did fail in life when my top degree was Devry. That much is true. They did not teach me the skills I needed to create a killer portfolio needed to land the job, much less give me the name recognition employers want from young hires. As you say: I was duped, I was a tool, I sucked, I was a dumbass. You notice that is all past tense. I am a winner and it is b/c I turned my life around after Devry destroyed it. I sacrificed to earn a real degree and it payed off. Devry just runs you through watered down courses while they water down your wallet. In the end you are left with mounds of debt and a worthless piece of paper.

At the end of the day, I did get the job... no thanks to Devry. GO TROJANS!

Devry=SCAM! February 19, 2009 at 11:59 p.m.

Wow, you must be dense or just illiterate. Of course you don't bother to read my previous post for one of the preceding reasons. Let me clue you in A-G-A-I-N... Cicso got me the interview genuis! Devry killed it. Why you feel the need to pretend to be someone else in your last post is beyond me. The writing style is so obvious, how many times are you going to write YOU in caps? You said you weren't going to post anymore, so really, go away and leave us to telling the truth about the scam known as Devry.

Haha, this is hilarious. February 20, 2009 at 7:41 a.m.

Oh man, this is hilarious. He thinks everyone that disagrees with him are either the same people or work at Devry! HAhaha!

Your resume had both "Graduated from Devry" and "Cisco" on it. That's ridiculous logic. If you put both on your resume and the interviewer noticed Devry on it, why the hell would they bring you in for an interview in the first place? What, did the interviewer, in the middle of the interview suddenly noticed you graduated from Devry and canned you?

Amused February 21, 2009 at 6:14 p.m.

Hilarious. He's delusional and paranoid. Am I the same person? We are all watching you! I've told all my friends about this exchange going on here. Expect many more posts by the same DeVry worker! Muahahaha!

Somnambulist February 22, 2009 at 4:40 a.m.

Timur Lane: Cite references

DeVry=Scam: You are a secret agent working for a competing online university, say Phoenix. you are paid to regularly come here and try to discredit DeVry.

Great theater this is.

Devry=SCAM! February 25, 2009 at 3:45 p.m.

You are correct. I work for Phoenix yet they aren't the competition. Like that makes alot of sense. lol

Devry Philly - Center city March 2, 2009 at 7:20 p.m.

*** Check out Devry's site, jot down some questions, give your location a call, and don't be afraid to speak up and ask the questions you have***
W*3.(schoolname).(first 3 letters of education)

*** Devry IS accredited. Call the US Dept. of Education to confirm like I did! Ask about the accreditation Devry hold for your prospective major***
W*3.(first 2 letters of education).(first 3 letters of government)/index.jhtml

*** Devry IS financial aid efficient. Check the official due dates and document requirements BEFORE hand***
W*3.(fafsa).(first 2 letters of education).gov
The bottom line to my post is as a student; your education is your responsibility. Anyone who walks into an office, allows themselves to be steam rolled, signs papers without reading them, doesn't ask questions about money they are putting out and, doesn't put forth an effort academically will be bitter. You will be bitter but, take some responsibility and accountability in sharing with us the role you played when you post to "let people know" about not just Devry but ANYTHING!

Devry Philly - Center city March 2, 2009 at 7:21 p.m.

What is so funny in these posts is the vagueness of them! Like "I was told Devry had accreditation then when I left they said they didn't" Who are these "theys" being discussed? Other people saying cases have been won against Devry for one reason or another yet, you post no link to a reputable site where it can be researched by any reader of the post! Never mentioning what format they were taking classes in and no one EVER seems to mention which campus they go to so, we never get it clear whether it’s the school or the idiots WORKING at the school in your location! I think people had a negative opinion of Devry from a long time ago when it was one of those fist "technical schools". Ignorance, misleading statements, and bitter students who didn't do their job have made it so the school is not able to shine through.

Today makes it one complete year that I have attended Devry's Philadelphia-Center City campus in the accelerated mixed format(see how I did that? making it clear where I am ..being specific...take notes..I'll wait). First and foremost, these classes have been far from "easy". For example, my advanced English composition class required one essay paper per week! Now you tell me with work, family life, and other organizational involvement that it is easy to sit and write a structured, conclusive, coherent paper every week! There are people who cannot hack the structuring of the courses also. Some people need the traditional 15 week semesters because the 8 week sessions are too fast paced for them. I have learned so much I this one year in my classes that, it makes me wonder if these posters even gave an effort to learn at all. Forget the academics, being at Devry I have learned more about me as a person too, not to mention the networking ability I have gained being around other likeminded, goal oriented, adults. That is another thing I wonder about these posters; are these posters kids? Fresh out of high school? Because, I see a lot of posts saying "they didn't tell me about...." "No one explained the educard account" and, ADULTS who sign paperwork usually READ said paperwork first! When I applied for admission, tested in, and applied for financial aid I was told about the educard by the rep and, since I am a grown up, I READ the disclosure before I signed my name to it. Everything that has gone on with my academics from classes, to financial aid, to degree completion requirements has been told to me and reiterated by tangible literature that I read myself. I keep emphasizing ME, MY, MYSELF, because it seems that most of these posters expected to be hand held through the process (which firms my thought that they are fresh out of high school) and want to take no accountability for their lack of effort, desire, and motivation in their courses at Devry.

Justin March 4, 2009 at 6:23 a.m.

I am attending Devry. I think they are a great school I did do some classes online and I am not going to lie I was pretty irritated that I could not get any help to fix a problem with the I lab for two of my classes and because of that I failed those two classes. Simply lives go on Thats the only problem I have ever had. I know the school must obviously be a good school because I have friends who work at microsoft who attended Devry. Also I know that microsoft enjoy bringing aboard those who attended Devry. Also quick reminder there are stats that show places are more than likely to hire people who attended technical schools and community colleges rather than those who attended upscale universities. Also businesses are hiring those with associate degrees rather than those who have a bachelors degree. Reason is why pay someone more for taking a class that was broke up into three different classes just so they could get enough credits receive a bachelors degree. Either way we are going to hear every little bad thing that has happened at Devry simply because it's better to talk about the negative than the positive. Sorry to those of you if you did not have a good experience, and I'm for those that did. Either way it's a education that will help you find a better job.

Devry=SCAM! March 9, 2009 at 7:40 a.m.

So Devry Philly, you opened your own business after Devry. So why did you bother to go to school to start your own business? You could have used the tens of thousands you spent on tuition as start-up capital that every new business needs. If you went to Devry to gain the job skills needed in your business, you seriously wasted your money. If you went to Devry to gain recognition or some sort of pedigree for your business, you SERIOUSLY wasted your money. When most people say they are self-employed, that means they are unemployed. I hope your little website is getting enough hits to hire someone to watch it. You could have done web design without a degree from Devry.

Deacon March 11, 2009 at 5:22 a.m.

I just applied to DeVry, almost positive I'll get accepted (barring death, or freak accident).

I've read a majority of comments on here, and I'll just add that everyone who didn't get a job needs to shut the f*ck up.

Quite honestly, the school gave you an education. If you are unsatisfied with your education, open up Google, and fill in the f*ckin gaps. If people who have never gone to college can get jobs, and you, who have obtained a degree, cannot, then there is clearly something wrong with you.

Maybe you should try harder instead of blaming other people.

Personally, I just want the f*ckin piece of paper to put on my portfolio. It's 2.8 years, not a f*cking life time. Get the f*ck over it, grow the f*ck up, and get the f*ck out.

The only reason DeVry may be seen as sub par to some corporations is because failures feel that just because they have a degree, and graduated best of their class, makes them "qualified". No, it does not, in fact, it makes you cocky.

And just a hilarious note, a lot of the people who have been bashing on the school have "sub par" English. Clearly you didn't even pay attention in High School, so you had no business in the first place going to College.

A few links for the idiots who can't get a job after graduation:

tinyurl.com/debkae

Enjoy.

Devry=SCAM! March 12, 2009 at 10:07 p.m.

What happened to my apology posts? In them I told everyone how sorry I was for trying to mislead them and for my behavior on this forum. I am in fact a part-time telemarketer who makes very little money and has very little job satisfaction and come here to vent because I really just hate my life.

The fact is I never went to DeVry. I'm sure it's really a great school. Good luck to all who attend! And once again, if I get a little crazy and out of hand, it's only because I forgot to take my medication and/or had a particularly bad day at work.

And to whoever keeps deleting my posts, why? Are you censoring a deeply felt apology for the sake of causing more grief? Let us all be friends now, quick, while my meds hold out...

Chris March 16, 2009 at 5:57 p.m.

Colleges and Universities provide students with the means to learn. Learning is something that each individual must take an active role in. A student can attend the best college and learn nothing while another student can go to a no name college,study effectively, and have a better learning experience. There are several millionaires that never went to college and know more about business than most college grads. As a military recruiter I have seen college grads perform poorly on the Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery Test (ASVAB) and GED holders score a 90 on the same test. It does not matter where you went to college but how well you learn. The main thing to look for is the accreditation. Is it regional? Is it national? Regional is better.

Field Manager March 26, 2009 at 3:01 p.m.

I must say that I have found this discussion thread to be very interesting. I have zero college credits, but I am considering an online business degree to push me towards six digit territory (I already do quite well, thank you). I am a veteran, and was an aircraft mechanic by trade, but worked myself into field management of a large defense services company by learning the business, taking jobs nobody wanted, forcing myself to learn things that didn't interest me and grabbing every learning opportunity I could get over the years. I have hiring and performance review responsibilities where I work and I will tell you that education is just a small part of what makes you employable. It's about being well rounded and having experience related to the job you are seeking. You can have all the degrees in the world, but if you don't have applicable skills and experience, you are nowhere. If you went to college right out of high school or got a degree to change careers, be realistic and expect to start at or near the bottom. Experience is key, so do what you must to get it. Use your education as a door opener, not a crutch. A successful career is like a three legged stool and education is just one leg. The government calls these KSA's - Knowledge, Skills and Abilities. Knowledge is great, but application of it is essential. I marvel at how many college grads are just useless because they think a degree is a ticket to a paycheck. It's not!

i hate randy scott April 2, 2009 at 1:47 a.m.

RANDY SCOTT HE IS A STUDENT FROM KELLER HE A REAL BUTTMUNCH SCREW HIM I WILL POST HIS PERSONAL INFO YOU GOT DAMN CRACKER

Anne G April 17, 2009 at 6:45 p.m.

To DeVry-Philly Center City:

Kudos to you for your well-thought-out, grammatically correct comments. Best of luck to you in your education and career :) P.S. I am originally from central Jersey :)

Phil S. May 6, 2009 at 7:19 a.m.

It's quite amazing reading through these posts. Especially the fiasco of "Devry=SCAM!" and his schizophrenia outbursts. Anyway, I just wanted to give my two cents about attending DeVry. I'm currently a senior and will be graduating after the fall trimester, and I have had a wonderful experience here. To those who think they do not hire DeVry grads, you are grossly misinformed. I only have my Associates in CIS and am currently working as a Web Developer at a world-wide medical research company that is in the forefront on regenerative medicine. I am currently handling the system design and managing mending the corporate web site with the HUNDREDS of satellite/product sites. I'm 21 years old, and was hired while I was attending DeVry (North Brunswick campus), and am currently being reimbursed for my tuition by the company which I work for. Also, I'm earning a comfortable living, to the point where I am able to afford my own place and support for my fiancee while she pursues her veterinary degree, without having to worry about finances. Many of my class mates have landed great internships and jobs, but they have worked HARD towards these degrees, just like I am.

To those considering attending DeVry (CIS, specifically): If you are more interested in the theoretical aspect of computers/tech, I'd suggest going into the field of Computer SCIENCE. DeVry offers degrees in Computer INFORMATION SYSTEMS (amongst other things in Info. Systems). You want a more practical education in the field of IT? I suggest going to DeVry, or any school that offers information systems.

As for these haters, I am sorry you did not have a good experience with DeVry, and I am a true believer in that what you get out of life (or school) is what you put into it.

@ Wade May 15, 2009 at 5:09 p.m.

You are wrong Wade. My friend earned my Master's online from a traditional B & M university and the degree does not state ONLINE. Nor does it state ONLINE on the transcripts.

Brad May 19, 2009 at 7:47 a.m.

Devry is a joke. No one hires from Devry.
The positive reviews of Devry n this website are all fake reviews from Devry employees.

Dev Student May 28, 2009 at 9:35 p.m.

I'll try to keep it short and simple.

You have to be really punctual with your paperwork if you want Devry to work, otherwise things just get delayed - especially financial aid. Yes, the complaints are true - Devry is extremely expensive. I was approved for complete financial aid and both subsidized and unsubsidized federal loans. Devry charges around 80-90% extra compared to your local college. Financial aid will most definitely not be able to cover it. The pro's are that the online customer service is very good. Financial aid is helpful and I noticed they would only reply back if I had any questions or I completed paperwork - they really don't waste any time.

So if you can afford and want the ease of doing college at home, Devry is a good choice. However, keep in mind that it is much more better to attend college in person - for the sake of experience. Also, I don't know if people will choose Devry first compared to other schools, so watch out for that too.

My experience with Devry has been 3/5. Eventually, I decided to quit before going with the semester.

Hopefully this post helps someone out.

Masters in EE? June 18, 2009 at 1:52 a.m.

1 How difficult is it?
2 I may consider it if I can take just one course at a time.
3 How many credit hours are needed to get a degree?

Joe square July 9, 2009 at 6:07 a.m.

I don't know what to say other than doing some good research before doing anything. Thanks for the info

Kasey July 25, 2009 at 7:26 a.m.

I find that negative feedback is much easier to come by than positive feedback. Perhaps those that harbor negative feelings against something have nowhere else to unleash them, or perhaps sharing the issues with their peers is not enough. People that have positive experiences may not go looking to find people to share their positive experiences with.

While feedback is useful, is shouldn't be a deciding factor. I use it to get a general feel about a product or service and I take information from those people to google and continue my research. I look for well written articles with sources listed posted on legitimate and trustworthy web sites.

Joe, I find grammatically correct writings easier to process and follow. A person that doesn't care about grammar and structure probably wouldn't care one way or another. In the professional world, grammar should be a big deal. I think it would be pretty sad if our "professionals" weren't using correct grammar, don't you?

I don't feel the need to bull crap anybody by making up some fantastical story. I checked a few of the available listings with the Better Business Bureau and I saw 4 A+'s and a B-. Obviously, different people are going to run different locations "differently," some better than others. This happens at McDonald's. If the BBB is throwing out misinformation and DeVry continues to hold legitimate accreditation while they "scam" people we have some issues that are far more serious than the actual "scam" itself, I don't personally believe in a "DeVry scam".

If you have any questions or concerns try to seek out somebody that has graduated from DeVry and is actually happy and successful. Seek people that are like how you would like to be. That is one method of bettering yourself and moving forward. It would not make sense to model yourself after or base a decision off of somebody that is unhappy and unsuccessful unless that is how you would like to be. Good luck to those of you attending DeVry, and to those of you who are thinking about attending. Online courses fit in my schedule and this method of learning works great for me, it may not be the best choice for everybody.

I've learned a lot from DeVry so far and I intend on making the most of this investment. I'm pursuing a CIS(Computer Information Systems)degree. I haven't had any troubles with DeVry that I wouldn't have had anywhere else. Crap happens, you either get over it or you don't. The bottom line: "Take care of crap before it takes care of you."

Randy July 25, 2009 at 4:27 p.m.

I just wanted to through my 2 cents in. "For profit only" hello what college out there isn't in it for the money? I took 2 classes online through Penn State and they were seriously a joke at almost $500 a credit little crazy if u ask me. Devry because I am a vet is only half that. I start my first semester in about a month BS in electronics engineering technology. Everyone so far was great to me! Terrell my addmissions advisor calls me at least once ever day or two to keep me posted on everything and is extremely professional the same goes for the student aid office her name is Patty and she as well is great. They no I work full time so they call me after I get off of work I have not started class yet like I have mentioned but I am extremely excited the classes sound very challenging and I believe I am going to learn a great deal. If u are interested about going to Devry dont let some crap online that ppl are saying discourage u they probably didnt give it a 100% or they had a bad experience thats y they r slamming the school

BAP Guy July 26, 2009 at 7:15 a.m.

Devry's Texas CPA exam pass rate is only 27.5% that is lower than every state and community college! Pathetic

This statistic says it all Kasey. Why would any CPA firm want to hire someone who is unlikely to pass the CPA exam? Say whatever you want to justify spending so much money on an unaccredited degree but you are just blowing smoke! If your business degree isn't accredited by the AACSB your options will be much more limited.

You are going for a CIS degree Kasey? At my school CIS is run through the business department so AACSB accreditation is going to hurt you. Your investment will not give a good return Kasey! My college costs $4,800 a year and sends dozens of it's business graduates to top accounting, insurance and consulting firms.

I think it is funny how you just "HAD" to comment on my statement about grammar. I don't have time to construct something perfect. That is because my school isn't at my leisure like Devry! I have to tutor lower division accounting majors and edit research bulletins! That is something I don't think they do at Devry!

1983 Devry Grad July 27, 2009 at 6:58 p.m.

For those students or potential students looking for testimonies. I graduated from Devry in 1983 with the BSEET degree. I have not been disappointed. My career has been very successful. Most of my career has been in design and sustaining complex electronic products. I am currently an Engineering Manager. I work for a company with revenue over 54 Billion and make six figures. During my career there has been some that look down their noses because I didn’t attend a standard College. Usually because Devry doesn’t have football team or social setting they can compare notes with during dinner. When hiring, it all comes down to your accomplishments and experiences. College give you basic tools needed to start a career. Devry gives you these tools within the electronics field. Devry will not open a door as large as a well known and respected college if you have no experience. But Devry will open the door to get the experience needed. Devry was a fit for me when I started College at 18 years old. There is some truth to the statement of one post, concerning some who think a degree on the wall from a well known school gives them entitlement. I have ran across many of these types. They have also learned the hard way, that business wants results not a degree. In my lifetime I have ran across a few other Devry graduates with executive management positions. Yes, I had to work harder for the respect, because of how some perceived Devry. However that was also one of the reasons I have had a successful career.

Best Regards,

hi! devry=scam September 9, 2009 at 11 p.m.

OK MY MOTHER'S FRIEND IS A TEACHER FROM DEVRY AND SHE AND FEW OTHER COLLEGES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING DECISIONS IN THE CAMPUS. AS I'M ABOUT TO TRANSFER FROM A COMMUNITY COLLEGE SHE STRONGLY ADVISED ME NOT TO GO TO DEVRY BECAUSE THE DECISION SHE MAKES ARE STRICTLY FINANCIAL. SHE SAID THAT THE SCHOOL OR THE COUNCIL DO NOT CARE ABOUT GIVING A GOOD EDUCATION WHEN IT MEANS CUTTING DOWN ON PROFITS. THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS THE CUT DOWN TO AN EIGHT WEEEK PERIOD SEMESTERS.

WHY INSULT OR TRY TO POST AS DEVRY= SCAM HE IS JUST GIVING HIS OPINION, UNLESS YOU GUYS FEEL PERSONALITY ATTACK BY HIS POST. AND PLEASE STOP POSTING AS ARMY VETERANS OR SOLDIERS. MY BROTHER IS AN ARMY VETERAN AND NOW STUDIES IN WEST POINT ACADEMY IN NEW YORK AND IS VERY PATHETIC THAT EMPLOYEES FROM DEVRY TRY TO CREATED A BS OF A STORY USING SOLDIERS.

Brian B September 11, 2009 at 4:25 p.m.

I graduated In session A of the summer 09 semester (linine studies - Technical Management). Devry will be an experience that can only be determined by the individual. However i will give my opinion of the school.

#1 YES the school is easy
#2 Yes some of the professors will pass you, where others will make an effort to ensure you get nothing higher than a C (but these terribad professors are rare)
#3 The student success coaches are brilliant and usually help you through.(those who only call will usually never get things done, I had to go the school and make my presence known.
#4 Its damn expensive
#5 Its still a business
#6 NEVER TRY TO GRADUATE ON SESSION A as they will put your grades and file on HOLD until Session B graduates( they dont take care of the over-achievers)

Most these bad comments say scam and what not but Overall i havent had much difficulty in the school. I will however admit that the Finacial AID offices Suck. Esp an aid officer at the pomona campus named Jesse Megan. From beginning til end he hasnt contacted me once. He should be fired.

Haters Need Not Apply October 21, 2009 at 7:32 p.m.

DeVry is a great school, same text books as any other University. Any education is what is put into it. You can choose to apply and read and analyze the material or you can be spoon fed by a professor at a traditional school. Additionally, DeVry is BOTH online and traditional, I hope everyone realizes that it has both.

Take 12 credit hours and DeVry is only $330 a credit that is the same as any other University.

At DeVry you can focus on one class and take it within a two month period. A a traditional school you waste your time going to class after class to listen to a professor brag about his superior intellect. Online schooling is far superior in the right hands.

All This Information Is False October 21, 2009 at 7:41 p.m.

I really must say that all of the information contained in this posting is unverified and contains absolutely ZERO validity. It goes for both the DeVry haters and the DeVry students/alumni. There isn't a shred of REAL data in this posting and everything that is said in here should be taken as a grain of salt. Neither side presents anything other than opinion backed up with no facts which if we were writing a research paper would be a failing grade. It would be great if someone presented factual information. To say that no one hires DeVry grades is using absolute values which again is very poor when attempting to make a point. If anyone has real evidence, verifiable facts and data that would be better then this ugly banter.

are you anti-social? November 20, 2009 at 11:27 p.m.

why even risk going to a college that causes this many skeptics? go to a real school, meet other students, party, get a real education and be happy that your RESUME alone will get you a job.