Grantham University

navy student September 19, 2006 at 3:01 p.m.

Dissapointing to say the least. No other school will touch my Grantham credits. I attended Grantham for two semesters. Now I am transfering because I am tired of trying to contact the school and my instructors for help and not getting return phone calls or e-mails. Their customer service is severly lacking. Now, I am stuck with two semesters worth or worthless credits that no one will touch.

Student #060723 October 19, 2006 at 1:18 p.m.

Huh? I have never had a problem getting through to faculty and staff. Problems have been solve quickly. As far as non-transferable credits, do your homework. There is a laundry list of schools that will accept credits from Grantham. You will be amazed at some of the schools on the list. Why does one go to school in the first place? Hopefully it's for self edification. Just my 2 cents.

Student November 2, 2006 at 7:36 p.m.

No, actually you cant transfer your credits. Most legitimate schools will not accept credits from Grantham. Call your local school if you dont believe it.

Wrong Masuss November 5, 2006 at 4:48 p.m.

You are dead wrong. Call around. Tell the school that you have credits from Grantham. They will tell you that they do not accept them. CHEA aggreement or not, they will not accept credits from Grantham.

Read what is said:

If an Institution is in HETA, What Does This Tell Me?
An institution's membership in HETA tells you that its transfer decisions are not made solely on the basis of the accredited status of a sending institution and that the institution has agreed at least to consider transfer requests from other institutions. Each HETA member institution has an interest in cooperative efforts to assure and enhance student mobility.

What if an Institution is not in HETA?
The institution has determined, as of this time, not to become part of the transfer alliance. If an accredited institution does decide to join HETA, it will be added to the directory.

What Does HETA NOT Do?
HETA does not assure that transfer requests from one HETA institution will be accepted by another HETA institution. It does not, as of this date, include all institutions that might accept your transfer credit. HETA is voluntary and, for example, an institution may not yet have chosen to join HETA. HETA does not make judgments about the academic quality of individual institutions.

It does not say that they WILL accept credits, only that they will CONSIDER it, and most WILL NOT accept Granthams.

serious student December 3, 2006 at 6 p.m.

This is too funny. Grantham keeps getting proven wrong no matter how they want to spin it.

John December 14, 2006 at 4:15 p.m.

James is the voice of reason. It's Nationally (DETC) accredited, and most Regionals won't take the credits.

Since this is a review site, I encourage all Grantham students to fill out a review if that want to be heard.

Scott December 17, 2006 at 5:50 p.m.

Write reviews! So others know!

seen a lot of blogs... January 8, 2007 at 4:22 p.m.

Happy New Year! I am not an advocate or a critic for DETC Accredited places of learning. I am just a 55 year-old guy, with a family, that has been working since he was 16, suffered through several company closings (anyone remember Singer Business Machines, or International Teleprinter Corporation (ITC), or how about RCA Tube Division) and never had the opportunity (read that as money) to attend a "brick & morter" college. I have personally talked to many employers, including my current one which by the way is providing tuition assitance for my studies at Grantham, and while not the best choice, Grantham University is at least respected and recognized. Maybe I can't transfer my credits to another college, but a BS from Grantham is still a BS on my resume. And let me tell you, in this day and age, "Job Security" is defined as how fast you can find another job. I know my degree from Grantham at the very least puts me in the running for that next job. The critics all have a good point, when your young set your sights high, plan to move and advance your degree(s). You are going to need to, competition is fearce, and its more international than ever. Grantham is not for everyone. But I can honestly say, I have learned a great deal, I believe I can present myself professionally during an interview and I can "talk the talk" in the field of data communications and networking. For those in Grantham, decide where you want to be, what are your goals? And then do it. Learning is what you make it. Grantham can be a fine resource. Here is an interesting site... http://distancelearn.about.com/od/accred...

Summer January 23, 2007 at 7:32 a.m.

Grantham's credits will NOT transfer, so you people that don't believe it then go right ahead and earn a degree with Grantham, and watch your world crumble!! Most students find a friend that goes to Grantham and cheat on all tests including Proctor exam...its a total joke!!!
Understand that a diploma means much more when recieved with pride from a prominent and reputable university!!

Grantham should be SHUT DOWN!!!

True, except for one point February 3, 2007 at 3:24 a.m.

I live in Louisiana. If you want a state job, a nationally accredited degree will simply not work. It actually states right on the job description that a degree from a recognized REGIONALLY ACCREDITED school is required. This is the same in many other states as well. Grantham will not tell you that when you are getting ready to enroll. Do your homework guys.

Mary February 7, 2007 at 2:07 a.m.

I hope most of ou tht read these posts are takinig advantage of the inside information placed upon you.

joey February 7, 2007 at 5:52 p.m.

YES it is a complete waste of time...and your credits wont go anywhere....sorry for your loss. All the staff there are generic and money hungry.......please seek other educational universities!!

RIPOFF February 9, 2007 at 7:11 a.m.

This goes out to the person "NO SERVICE"---You can file a complaint with RIP OFF REPORT (www.ripoffreport.com). This will get the word out, and file a report with the better business bureau immediately!! Lets do all we can to help our Military. Let's ban together to make a change!

to ME~From ITS TRUE February 22, 2007 at 6:59 a.m.

Evidently you haven't read the ripoff reports, because if you have then your questions would be answered!!! So many people are gone and have gotten fired. Everyone is tense around here........

to IT'S TRUE February 22, 2007 at 8:42 p.m.

Yep, sounds like business as usual, just a different location. I'm still having problems finding a single solitary school to accept my Grantham credits. Most just laugh when I tell them I have credits there, really, they laugh. I'm glad that I didnt come up. I'm making way more money now than I ever did at Grantham. Jobs are plentiful here now. Did you come up from Slidell or are you from KC?

TOO SO ITS TRUE February 26, 2007 at 4:49 a.m.

SORRY you have been taken for a fool by Grantham...it's a daily occurrence...Hope you go to a reputable college with top notch credentials!! Hope you read RIPOFFREPORT and pass the word along!!

It's not just here February 26, 2007 at 6:21 a.m.

You can read a lot of good information here:

http://chronicle.com/forums/index.php/to...

and here:

http://chronicle.com/forums/index.php/to...

and here:

http://chronicle.com/forums/index.php/to...

and here:

http://confuzioncityscomments.blogspot.c...

and here:

http://blogkc.com/archives/2005/09/kc-lo...

As well as on many military/college chat boards. Grantham really is getting a name for itself.

Former Student February 27, 2007 at 5:55 a.m.

You know I have read the reports and have seen MANY of your names on them. I do believe that you are former employees and have probably been wronged. So get a new job and move on. I have had bosses that I did not like but don't sit around blogging about them.
About the school, yes it is a paper diploma, but it also sits nicely on my resume under my MBA from Pepperdine. My degree from Grantham did advance my education and work status. I received a BSEET at Grantham and was accepted to Graziadio School of Business at Pepperdine University. I completed my MBA and have worked the entire time. I suspect many of you who complain about your working conditions have not completed a degree and are unhappy with your minimum wage jobs. It is not the fault of the man who only gives you a few grains to eat. It is the fault of the man who does not learn to grow the grain himself!

YOU AMUSE ME February 27, 2007 at 11:31 p.m.

Too Former Student I am sure you are with Grantham, and I agree that only Grantham would stoop so low as too TRY and insult former or current employees wages. Grantham University is a shameful University lacking the proper credentials to call itself a TRUE University for higher education. Grantham staff sickens me, so instead of you all surfing the internet to find numerous comments that are true about your diploma mill school-you should get regionally accredited...PLEASE spend your time getting proper acreditation then come back on this board and speak the truth!!

Rate 'em! March 5, 2007 at 6:50 p.m.

Due to the power of modern technology, you can rate your professors at Grantham. Or

http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/SelectTe...

2 Former student March 5, 2007 at 7:30 p.m.

Grantham Degree incredible...? YEAH RIGHT!! Did you just make that up? It's incredible how generic this school is...It's incredible that students don't research first b4 signing up with Grantham.

Former student again March 9, 2007 at 1 a.m.

First of all I don’t know any of the names you all have listed as working for Grantham. I can not say they are good, bad, or whatever. I can say that my degree, GMAT, and my work experience got me into Pepperdine. I never said that a Grantham degree was "Incredible". I personally think that my degree from Grantham was a more of a tool to get into a Masters program.

What cracks me up is that I keep seeing the same names pop up on these forums. Jason from San Diego... I know you, I was in the Navy with you. I also know that you told me that the BSEET course was too difficult for you and you were going to change to the BSEM. I guess that was too tough for you too so you take your frustration out on Grantham.

Again, I can not speak about the business portion of Grantham, from what you all have said, they must have problems with personnel issues, but as far as a B.S. degree it gets you in the door. I would not recommend a M.S. Degree from Grantham just because there are many other, more prestigious Universities that offer programs for working adults.

Out-side looking in March 11, 2007 at 3:38 p.m.

Lets take a few minutes to review the facts boys and girls.

Rip off report dated 1/22/2007 11:17 am

A message from an employee who states, “GU is no good”
Five days later at 2:52pm (1/27/2007) the message was modified- apparently it didn’t get the attention it was seeking

The second person joins in (ID “truth hurts”) on 1/27/2007 at 1:01pm. Decides that they want to join in on the bashing. They also decided to modify their message at 2:52pm (see the trend here). They sign their message with “truth hurts”

On 2/6/2007 at 5:03pm- it appears the first message wasn’t getting the job done. Decided to add some extras bashing. A couple of hours later (7:35pm) they decided to modify their message. This time they signed their name to the message

Same day- the second person joins in. Time of the message was 6:44pm. Decides to add a spin on things by adding some names to the main event. Get this, at 7:35pm they decided to modify their message (see the trend here) This time they decided to sign their name with TH (truth hurts, where have we seen this before? see above) and their name

I am no PI, but this sounds like two individuals who were fired and are very unhappy.

News Flash- Facts are that everyone hates management in one way or another. Get over it people, move on.

Now boys and girls, let’s review some other facts.

Whether a Nationally or Regionally accredited learning institution accepts each other’s credit that is up to the gaining learning institution. So get over it!

As for the other GU employees looking for new jobs. Get on with it. I am more then sure they are not holding you down with straps. Perhaps if you were doing your job, your university would be a better place to go to.

In closing boys and girl. If you don’t like how McDonalds makes your hamburgers, go to Burger King where everything is served your way. That is the American way

Outside looking in~Hi Management March 11, 2007 at 8:37 p.m.

Nice try. I don't know what G.C stands for. But, if you haven't noticed, GU management hasn't responded to a single statement on these sites- I don't blame them. Who has time to waste with people like you. Move on friend!

Management or not March 11, 2007 at 10:19 p.m.

The above piece was a good write up. It makes total sense. Rose who ever you are, you are awesome! The author of "Hi management" get a life.

To Rose March 12, 2007 at 12:34 a.m.

That is exactly what this thread is about. Getting on with your life. This is why the thread was started, so people don't waste their time getting a degree that will not work for them in the long run. I've done some research, and I have yet to find a school that will accept Grantham credits. I use to be a student, and I can't find a school that will touch them. I wasted two semesters and a lot of money and time to find this information out. Now, I'm spreading the word so others can do their own research without blindly enrolling in a degree program. I have never told anyone NOT to become a Grantham student, I simply tell them what their Enrollment Advisor will not.

Simply said, DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE YOU ENROLL. Don't expect a sales person to give you the straight skinny when it's simply a numbers game to them and their goal is to enroll as many people as they can each month.

Jason

Great site here March 13, 2007 at 2:29 a.m.

I just found this site and there is even more great information about Grantham. 8 pages of it going back about a year and a half.

http://chronicle.com/forums/index.php/to...

To Peperdine graduate March 17, 2007 at 3:47 a.m.

To the Former Student that says they got into and graduated with a Masters Degree from Peperdine, I have to call the bullcrap flag on you my friend. This is the e-mail that I sent to Pepperdine University:

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 3:35 PM
To: GSBM Malibu Admissions <gsbmadm@pepperdine.edu>
Subject: Enrollment

Dear Sir or Ma'am,

I am just completing my BSEET degree from Grantham University, a DETC National accredited university. Would this meet your requirements for entrance into your MBA program? Your assistance is greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,

****

(As you can see, I put down a BSEET degree, just like Mr. Former Student said he had.)

This is the reply that I received today:

Dear ****,
Thank you for your interest in the Graziadio School of Business and Management. We require completed undergraduate degrees from regionally accredited universities, so an undergraduate degree from a
nationally accredited school would not meet that requirement. I hope this helps and let me know if you have any further questions.

Take care,
Marc

Marc Endrigat
Graziadio School of Business and Management
Full-Time Programs
1-800-726-9283

So I say to you, Mr. Former Student, you are a LIAR and a DECEIVER. This is proof positive that a Grantham Degree will not get your into Pepperdine University. I left Mr. Endrigat's information so that anyone can verify this information if they so choose. Please do not post any more lies about Grantham being accepted by this university. It will not be.

Student March 17, 2007 at 7:53 p.m.

I have found all of these posts interesting in one way or the other. I have been spending a lot of my time researching Grantham to ensure I am receiving a degree that I can use in my life. I have fallen upon forums such as this in the past bashing Grantham, and I almost quit because of it. Good thing that I am not a sheep following the flock. I was at work (I am in the military and I work with civilian contractors) and I was speaking with a GS-15 about college. I told him my concerns about my school being a rip-off. He asked what school I went to and I told him "Grantham". He then said,"I have something interesting to show you in my office." I followed him to his large corner office to find a wall of degrees. This man had three masters degrees from University of Maryland, Texas A&M, and Colorado State. All of these Masters degrees were attached to the Bachelors Degree he also had on his wall. It was from Grantham University.
For those of you that are trying to dispell hope to those of us trying to balance family, work and an education...STOP!!! I am truly sorry that Grantham wasn't the right school for you, but it is for others. For those of you attending Grantham with concern, remember one thing. If you finish your Bachelors at Grantham, you won't have to worry about trying to transfer credits.

To Student March 18, 2007 at 12:15 a.m.

Are you going to make me send e-mails to those three schools as well to prove you a liar also? Oh well, I have some extra time, so I will. Thank you for the challenge and I'll report back when I have an answer.

PROOF March 19, 2007 at 3:01 a.m.

GOSH another school denying Grantham credits!! WOW A school right in the same state as Grantham was. This is so interesting and informative. I'm sure that was Grantham staff that lied....but anyway NEXT SCHOOL ON THE LIST TO DENY GRANTHAM CREDITS (drum roll please)

To Matt who wrote a review above March 21, 2007 at 2:52 a.m.

So you put your name down? Big deal. I could put my name down as Freddie Mercury. That doesn't make it true. You can put down whatever name you want, that doesn't make you a verifiable student. For all we know, you could be another Grantham employee trying to put out the flames. You may feel what others are writing on this board are true, or false. That is up to the individual to decide. That facts are being presented by actual e-mails from actual Universities that are saying they WILL NOT accept Grantham credits for transfer or as prerequisites for a Master Degree. This can be verified by e-mailing the school in question and getting a response directly. We can not verify your information, nor do you present facts to back up your claim of transferring into a "prestigious school" where you earned said Masters Degree. What school did you attend that accepted your Grantham bachelors degree? I would like to be able to independently verify this information by contacting the school in question directly. Lack of a response will prove that you are lying.

If you read posts on ripoffreport.com, you can see that both current and former employees and students are posting there as well. The information is out there for anyone and everyone. We are not asking you to take this information at face value. We are presenting the well documented information and asking any potential students to be very cautious and research this school before enrolling.

ANONYMOUS March 25, 2007 at 1:21 p.m.

Everyone has made some valid arguments and I am sure that the word about Grantham has spread. On a separate note, I just checked the Better Business Bureau website with a Grantham University search. There has only been one complaint filed against Grantham in three years and it was a contract dispute. The complaint was dismissed after investigation. Instead of using this website to post your concerns, why not go to the people who can take the proper action. Good luck.

federal government April 2, 2007 at 5:06 p.m.

Several of my friends like to get drunk and surf ripoffs.com and reply to the posts with anything that comes to mind. It is a game to them. That is the trailer park of websites.

Any legitimate complaints need to go to BBB.

Do not even attempt to tell them that you are made because you were fired. Ex-employees love to make up things about why they could not cut it.

observer April 2, 2007 at 5:50 p.m.

The customer service at Grantham has to be improving since
the former employees that are crying here have been let go!!
Grantham definitely made the right choice.

To everyone who responded "today" April 2, 2007 at 10:16 p.m.

What school did you transfer your credits to? I doubt I will receive an answer because you Grantham employees know that I will send an e-mail to them and post the response.

Notice that all the responses were posted within an hour and a half of each other. The same Grantham employee I think? To all looking at enrolling, do your homework. Read the posts above and the responses from other Universities. The proof is right there, all you have to do is read it, and do a little research for yourself.

Sounds good April 3, 2007 at 1:53 a.m.

I'll let you know what USC tells me.

To miserable April 3, 2007 at 2:08 a.m.

Go right ahead!! Want me to give my instructors name also with references. What a miserable individual you are!!

GRANTHAM PLEASE April 3, 2007 at 4:55 a.m.

Obviously we have people from Grantham posting responses here. Like everyone is saying research for yourself about this school. Ex-Employees and current employees hate the day they ever landed at grantham for work im sure. It amazes me how people have so much to say BUT in defense to Grantham but haven't the slightest clue! It matters who's sleeping with who at Grantham because I don't want to go to a school that lacks morals and standards. If anything customer service has gotten worse at Grantham. Noone is there to answer the phone and I never get called until they want more money from me.Tons of schools will not accept Grantham credits and most of us "LIKE MINDED" individuals understand that from experience.

EX-STUDENT April 3, 2007 at 11:17 a.m.

My wife and I both are graduates of Grantham Univerity. I transferred my degree into Averett University which allowed me to recently achieve my MBA. My wife transferred into Capella University and received her Masters and now she is in the doctorial Program at Nova Southeastern University.
All in all it was a great fit for us.

Proof has been posted April 3, 2007 at 11:49 a.m.

Anyone can SAY that they were able to transfer their Grantham degree to a Regional school and got their Masters. There is documented PROOF that, in most cases, that is simnply not true. Proof from actual universities with verifiable contact information has been posted saying that they WILL NOT accept a Grantham degree. I hardly think that my "mental state" has anything to do with me looking out for my fellow Military Service Members.

It all comes down to this: Do you want to spend the time and money on a degree that is not looked highly upon and not accepted when you want to further your education OR, do you want to spend the same time and money on a a degree that will be accepted at MOST other schools. Schools like Fort Hayes University, San Diego State online, Old Dominion online, etc. are Regionally Accredited and WILL be able to be transfered. Dollar for dollar, they are VERY competative. They WILL NOT charge you $250 a credit hour for a class that no other school will touch.

It's been said on here before and I'll say it again: I'm not telling anyone NOT to go to Grantham. That is up to you. I'm simply saying that any potential student needs to do a little research before dropping their entire GI Bill or TA into a school that may not fit into their plan. The Grantham employees that are posting here seem to be very passionate about attacking others. Be that as it may, do your homewoork on this school. You will find out a lot.

ALL A DREAM April 3, 2007 at 5:45 p.m.

Focus on the facts instead of focusing on who are employee's or ex employees. This is maddness. Facts and research speak for themselves. Some people are making a mockery out of what is fact here. If you have done your research you will know that most allegations that have been made about Grantham are reality. Just call the school, look on other sites. Everyone can't have a vendetta against these people.... The only mental conditions I detect are the people on this board that are living in a dream in hopes that there degree will actually take them somewhere. most school that have been named for taking Grantham credits aren't any that people have ever heard of. When its time for an employer to hire u or a school to take your credits, they will ask the same question. "WHO IS GRANTHAM?"

General Comment April 3, 2007 at 6:51 p.m.

Good enough for the Department of Education of The United States of America and CHEA means it is good enough for me.
To miserable ex-employee, How much experience do you have accrediating educational programs?

National Accreditation April 3, 2007 at 10 p.m.

What is really funny is when I was hired, they explained National Accreditation to me. This is what they told me.

You know when you pick up a Star magazine or Readers Digest they have that art school in the back? The one where you draw either the pirate or the turtle and send it back in. They are Nationally Accredited.

What do you think would happen in you received a degree from that "online" art school and went to Disney or Marvel or even your local newspaper to get a job? They would laugh you out the door.

Victor April 3, 2007 at 11:25 p.m.

Like any other product or service, there is nothing to please everybody at the same level. all the opinions are personal opinions and they do noit reflect the true reputation of the school as well as its educational parameters. In my case, I've completed 12 credits already with Grantham. in my initial contact with the educational advisors/sales people or any name you want to give them, they were professional and had all the patience in the world to answer all my questions and to clarify all my concerns. I did the same with other online universities before I start spending my money. Now, that several months have passed, I can honestly say than Grantham University meets the expectations I had, the courses and books are appropriate and the faculty is accesible. The books were compared with local university books, since i used their libraries to study; the indexes, chapters and lessons run parallel and similar topics are reviewed.
Also, it is important to have in mind that when people expresses their discomfort with a service or product-in this case with Grantham- in a very rude way, are people that are not interested with their education at all, their ignorance and lack of goals to succeed is revealed in their words. Grantham University is highly recommended for those who like challenge and are determined to accomplished all tasks-no half/ways- for a good recognition. In regards to credits accepted by other universities, it makes sense that other places won't take all the credits because they would not make any money by enrolling you in only a few credits. Yes, shopping around is the best, and you will find universities that give credit to 50%, 60%, 70%, and 80% of your credits. The rest has to be in accordance with their particular policies and curricula so you can adhere to a new student body, a new study house, and a new institution. I'm aware of that, and I'm already shopping around for those places that gives me the best. I have nothing bad or disappointed to say about Grantham University but the pleasure of better myself with a top notch courses that are already put in practice at my job, where lots of materials have contributed to several training meetings. Keep it up, enjoy Grantham or any other university; education is good!

Former employee and student April 4, 2007 at 2:15 a.m.

You have no clue what you are talking about. Grantham flat out lied to it's Slidell employees, multiple times. You can believe all the lies that your employer is telling you, the truth is out there and has been out there. Forget that Grantham credits are worthless at MOST OTHER universities, the school treated it's Slidell employees like dirt. Fact: The school gave each employee only a few days to move to KC after the worst disaster to hit the United States....ever. If you were not willing to leave your home and family, you were fired. That is the fact. On their own website, they said that they would hold jobs for those not able to come up right away. The truth was, within a week, those who could not come were receiving termination letters. Then they said that Grantham would be returning to LA. Yep, another lie. The list goes on and on. Personally, I'm glad that I stayed because I am earning a nice living making quite a bit more than Grantham was every willing to pay it's employees.

I'm not bitter with Grantham, I understand how a business works. I understand how Grantham felt that their employees were just numbers, just like their students. Look at the way they run their departments. Students are just numbers to them. "We need X amount of TA's today". I remember hearing them say that. Don't make your goal for the week and catch hell from them. I use to work for admissions and I got sick and tired of the way we were treated and the way we were expected to deceive potential students just so we could make our goal. I transfered out of that department and actually took a paycut to do it. I was happy to make less money just to be done with it.

Appreciate last 2 posts April 4, 2007 at 2:35 a.m.

Choice is yours to make about Grantham. I can care less whether you take this free information that so many have offered for your well being. the choice is yours. Don't say you were not warned.
You can lead a horse to the water but you can't make him drink it!!

Outsider looking in April 4, 2007 at 4:49 a.m.

Some interesting information here to be sure.

What I find most interesting is that all of the individuals who are saying that Grantham credits will not be accepted by other schools are posting what look like real emails from other schools confirming that claim. The individuals who are posting that they had no problem transfering credits have posted nothing proving it, just expecting everyone to take their word for it. Come on guys! Out of all the people that claim that their credits transfered, is there not one of you who can come up with something, an email, a website, something from the school you transfered to that says that they will accept Grantham credits?

And to the supposed Department of Education employee that posted earlier, you said "Why does anyone send e-mails to schools trying to get in?". Are you a complete idiot? These are online schools we are talking about. This is the online degree review website. Grantham does not even have a campus. How else is someone suppose to get information from an online school? If this is who the Department of Education is hiring, we are all in trouble. Plus, no Department of Education employee would claim that any legitimate school will give you credits based on your resume. Please, you are only showing how ignorant you are.

To Victor April 4, 2007 at 11:27 a.m.

Finally a voice of wisdom on this forum.

To all you employees April 4, 2007 at 12:20 p.m.

If you truly believe in your school and the product you sell, why dont you post your names and extensions so potential students can contact you directly to ask their questions? Get off the breakroom computers and take a few of their phone calls.

2 "General" April 4, 2007 at 5:42 p.m.

Grantham doesn't have good benefits at all. We were told health insurance would be free when we first were hired, but once we were hired...Grantham pulled us in the conference room and told us that we would have to pay fully for it. What benefits do we have-half off ice cream and pretzels? We work hard everyday here, and these students only wish they knew exactly what actually goes on here. These students want so much not to believe there choice for higher education is stiffing them in every way. Hold on to your pipe dreams, because Grantham doesn't mind taking your money and using it to buy BMW's, F150 trucks, lavish homes in Virginia and 400,000 dollar homes in Kansas City!!

General April 4, 2007 at 7:29 p.m.

Senior management overhaul is due! Pay and treat Employees well. Take these steps and watch Grantham flourish. It would be as good as it was in 2004.Maybe better!

Field Marshal April 8, 2007 at 3:06 a.m.

"Admissions Reps (Read: Salesmen) were making about $14 and hour plus commission"

Last I heard, Instructors (to use the term very loosely) are paid $15 per hour.

Robert April 10, 2007 at 4:06 a.m.

Wow, I'm sure they are able to get top tier college professors paying $15 an hour. That's who I want teaching me university level course work, someone who get's paid less than a waiter. Oh wait, they don't do any teaching. It's up to you to teach yourself, they just grade (if you want to call it that) your papers when they get around to it. What a pathetic excuse for a school this it.

Recent Graduate April 12, 2007 at 10:52 p.m.

I just got my Computer Science B.S. from Grantham, and I'm surprised by all the comments I'm seeing here. I've been interviewing with prospective employers for more than a month now, and have three separate job offers on the table, all the way from $45k a year up to $65k. I've got almost no experience in the field, and so this is a great start for me. None of these folks hiring me has even raised an eyebrow at my degree. All they wanted to know was that the university was accredited, and once they knew that it was nationally accredited, they were fine with it and accepted the degree. Regional and national accreditation are basically the same thing; they don't indicate anything separate really.

To Recent Grad April 13, 2007 at 4:10 p.m.

Congrats to you!

Computer Science degrees of any type are in demand.
Some HR departments are not very savvy, as long as you have "A DEGREE" of any type.

2 GENERAL April 14, 2007 at 7:38 p.m.

You know what........Not one single employee care's whether you get a worthless degree from Grantham period!! We as employees have the inside scoop and wanted to share it to current students and students who are looking to possibly enroll! It makes us no difference if a college won't except your degree, because it's not taking or putting any money in our pockets!

Inform everyone April 18, 2007 at 4:01 a.m.

Grantham is accredited through DETC. DETC has guidelines on how they process complaints.
From the DETC Web Page:

If you have a complaint about a DETC-accredited institution, please contact Adriene Crossland adriene@detc.org, Assistant to the Director of Accreditation.
202-234-5100 Ext. 105

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Another Education Assocation to complain to is:
American Council on Education
One Dupont Circle NW
Washington, DC 20036-1193
(202) 939-9300
Their website is www.acenet.edu

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For Service Members & Veterans:

Those Servicemembers having problems with Grantham should also complain to these people.

Servicemembers Opportunity Colleges
1307 New York Avenue, NW
Fifth Floor
Washington, DC 20005-4701

soc.aascu.org/

800-368-5622
202-667-0079
FAX 202-667-0622

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Don't forget to send your complaint to the VA if you used your GI Bill:

gibill.va.gov/contact/contact.htm
1-888-442-4551

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Also, you might want to send your complaint to the U.S. Dept of Education - Inspector General Hotline:

ed.gov/about/offices/list/oig/misused/index.html

E-mail your Grantham Complaint to: oig.hotline@ed.gov

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It is my opinion that complaining on Ripoff report and posting on internet forums might warn potential students; it does NOT force Grantham to act. Complaining to the RIGHT people (The Government and Military) will make them respond. Since the majority of Grantham Students are Military, it's important for them to seek help from their respective services if they're having problems. If enough complaints are processed, DETC COULD revoke their accreditation, which could cause a chain reaction: The military and the VA GI Bill won't pay for an unaccredited school, which would eventually force Grantham to change their ways for shut down.

GOOD LUCK!

An instructor April 19, 2007 at 6:43 p.m.

Just want to ask that former students stop generalizing. I work for Grantham as a part-time independent contractor (instructor). I answer my students' emails within 24 hours, and my tests are difficult to pass. Students have to correctly write essays. So, open book or not, means nothing. You are bashing an entire population with some hard-working people. We don't discriminate in this country by race or religion. Let's not generalize an entire group of professionals into the joke you've made of them... I came on this site after my google search of "Grantham benefits" (looking to see if they offer medical benefits if full-time employed) and this came up. How sad. Stop grouping people into clumps. My students email me all the time that I am helpful and courteous. I am kind, and respectful to my military students, especially...

I am disappointed to read all of this nonsense...anger is fine. Take it to the right places.

Let's show a little kindness in return.

WOW April 22, 2007 at 3:13 a.m.

I have heard that Grantham is moving back to Lousiana. Anyone have any news on this?

Note to Instructor April 24, 2007 at 4:36 a.m.

Kudos to you for being professional in the face of this mess. Check out www.higheredjobs.com , you can adjunct for a regionally accredited school starting at a bare minimum of more than double your current salary. I understand if you needed to do it to get something on your CV, but I would upgrade to a better school.

"I work for Grantham as a part-time independent contractor (instructor). I answer my students' emails within 24 hours, and my tests are difficult to pass... I am kind, and respectful to my military students, especially..."

this crap is funny April 29, 2007 at 6:59 p.m.

Any one who would waste their time money on a non-regionally accredited degree is a certified idiot.

I can't say it any simpler than that.

Any college that does not have regional accredidation that trys to pass it self off as a legitimate school should be shut down and its managers/founders imprisoned for fraud.

If you want a respected degree but must attend online, find a state supported college that also has a ground campus.

Waste of money is right May 3, 2007 at 7:24 p.m.

Grantham is a huge waste of money and time, especially when you can get a degree from a reputable, Regionally accredited school for less cost and be treated better while doing it.

The word is getting out May 6, 2007 at 3:26 a.m.

http://forums.degreeinfo.com/showthread....

This is just too funny. More and more people are reading about this school and can make a judgement for themselves, not just what a sales guy at Grantham is telling them.

Just a Guy May 7, 2007 at 9:07 p.m.

KC,

Let me put it to you this way. I am an executive recruiter and have been for 15 years. I also teach HR at the collegiate level both online and traditionally.

If you sent me a resume with a Grantham degree on it, I would immediately toss it in the trash, as would every other recruiter I know.

If you apply for a masters program at a regionally accreditied school trying to use your Grantham degree they will not accept you.

For anyone considering higher education avoid schools that are not regionally accredited. Grantham has NO CHANCE of gaining regional accrediation. Save your Time/Money AVOID THIS SCHOOL!!!

Correction on Accreditation May 16, 2007 at 2:56 p.m.

"Now do your lessons no matter what school you go to. Grantham is a great school and will have Regional Accreditation shortly. It's accreditation now is good"

Grantham is NOT a candidate for regional accreditation, they are not on the list, sorry.

They are also far from being a great school. They are nationally accredited, and a bottom tier DETC school at that.

Regional NO!!! May 17, 2007 at 6:19 p.m.

Everyone knows you can't really get a higher learning type education out of Grantham...Most people are in the Military and just want to get something, some type of Degree! Problem is, they dont research b4 enrolling in this school....Grantham said last year that they would have Title 4 funding by June 2007...Well I must inform you....they don't!! Regional Accreditation...umm NO not going to happen besides it takes years to get this certification....and actually you have to have Title 4 funding in order to apply for Regional Accreditation!!!!!!!!
Please take your education elsewhere and STOP Enrolling with Grantham

No need to improvise, adapt, and overcome..... May 27, 2007 at 7:58 p.m.

Just go to a good school that will appreciate what you did for your country.

Here is the deal. I'm a Veteran. I used GI Bill benefits at Grantham, and I got screwed, big time. The truth is, and they wont tell you this when you enroll, is that you will only be considered a "part time" student while enrolled at Grantham because of all the time they give you to complete your semester. This means that you will only recieve "Half time" pay for your work. IF (and that's a big IF) you complete your semester early, you MAY get your benefits retro. Here is the clincher, you have to depend on THEM to complete your semester, IE: you need to have papers graded, you need responses from instructors, you need your proctor exam sent to your Proctor, and then wait for it to be graded (and Grantham is slow with all of this). Long story short, I was never able to complete my semester early because of all the incompetence that Grantham is full of, so, I only got half time GI Bill benefits. That's about $500 a month. Now, I had to pay $250 a credit hour for five three/four credit hour courses in a semester. So, you pay over $4250 for a semester but only receive about $3000 in benefits because Grantham wont answer your questions in a timely manner or send your proctor exams out on time. Don't even get me started if you need an extention to complete your semester because of their foul ups. You end up OWING money back to the VA.

Look into Fort Hayes State University. It's all online, it's Regionaly Accredited, and you are considered a "Full Time Student" from day one with a traditional semester time frame. All that, and your degree will actually mean something when you are done.

the patriot May 28, 2007 at 1:30 a.m.

I'm glad to get some feedback on the VA benefits matter. I decided to take it a step further. By sometime Monday, I'm expecting a response from the Missouri Education Dept, BBB, Dept of Education, etc to get any and all information they have on Grantham whether its complaints, investigations, reports of wrong doing, etc. Thanks for the feedback and I will look into FHSU as a backup.

Figures May 28, 2007 at 3:32 a.m.

It figures that even Grantham staff are cheating on their exams. It also figures that Grantham did not fire them. Just goes to show you that they do not care about anything except making money.

Question???? May 29, 2007 at 3:31 a.m.

are the 3 amigos's from slidell or kc? if they are from slidell are they going back home? from ripp off reports everytime a employee from slidell gets ready to leave they get in trouble. something always come up? now if we are talking about cheating how come they were not fired? HUMMMM managaement don't have proof. if they investigate them they will have to do it for all including managment. how can you cheat on the proctored exams the questions come from the course guide word for word. no cheating is needed just pay attention to the questions. any sane person can pass it.

Why do you think they are fazing student services out and on june 4 student progress will be sending out porctored exams?

This is how easy it is to cheat at Grantham May 29, 2007 at 12:26 p.m.

If you are paying to cheat....go ahead
If you are serious about a good education ...then do the right thing by taking your exams honestly.
"Cheating" hummmm life presents itself with may opportunities to cheat. People do it all the time. The real question is why?
Again, if you are serious about a good education....then you won't have to cheat

a thought to think about May 29, 2007 at 2:49 p.m.

I work at Grantham and I know all who are being investigated and its hard for me to believe that the 3 Amigo's cheated. they took their exams at the school infront of the director himself or if not him some upper manager with authority. They all are in different degree programs. This is what i think happened. According to policy when you get your Associates Degree you get a 2% raise and $2000 after 90 days Bachalors 5% and $5000 in your upcoming check. Think about it. If they had completed their Associates them they are still waiting for their $2000 and if they complete their BA within the 90 days then that will be $5000 in their next check so that would be a total of $7000 managment would have to approve for each of then a whopping $21000. but what really pissed them off they are leaving and going back home in July. Not to mention the others they are investigating. when you start talking about money being given that is when they want to investigate why!!! See his real motives comes from an Employee who was awarded his BA and got all his money and Monday morning he quit. He got his degree an left and is probably making more money now and is at peace. So why not stop eveyone else from doing the same thing that he did. so they called them all cheaters. What better way to not pay someone for doing what everyone will need to have to work at grantham "A DEGREE"!!! Yes that is right. It will be a requirement. If you don't have a degree you will be let go. Just blow your mind!!! i know all of granthams dirty little secrets.

SUPPOSE to be seeking is the right term June 1, 2007 at 12:37 p.m.

Grantham is famous for big promises and little return. They have been seeking ABET and Regional Accreditation for YEARS. They will keep on seeking while their students suffer.

UoP student June 16, 2007 at 1:58 p.m.

Just yesterday I received a message on my home phone and an email to my military email address from Grantham University. A little over a year ago I started looking around for schools that offer degrees online because I am in the military and work crazy schedules. I am an online student with University of Phoenix and have been taking classes with them for one year and plan to continue my education until I graduate. I honestly do not remember inquiring of Grantham University, but if I did, then why did it take them a little over a year to get back to me? If this is an indicator of their customer service, then I am not impressed.

. June 24, 2007 at 8:11 p.m.

Grantham was losing employees AND students at a rapid rate when I was still there. I can only imagine what is going on now. A lot of students were very upset with all the problems they were having before their move. From what I understand, they are having even more problems now.

y July 4, 2007 at 4:47 a.m.

Former adjunct, good for you for trying. Good for you for not taking long to get a clue. Good luck, you are off to better things.

former graduate July 6, 2007 at 10:22 p.m.

Overall: I couldn’t use my degree for progression in the Air Force. I know I will have problems in the civilian world.

Materials: “GOOD”.

Teachers: Need improvement. They need to be held accountable for not meeting student’s needs (i.e. responding to emails). I had an instructor tell me to hire a tutor. I struggled through math class on my own...no help! BTW...not all instructors were bad. Dr. Sutter was great and there have been other good ones. If you’re out there “thank you!”

Institution: Leadership needs to wake up and smell the coffee. You need to listen to its students, instructors, and staff for advice. It’s called process of improvement!

Support: I gave them a "6". I rated it not for the 3 bad instructors I had but for the majority of the instructors that pushed me, emailed me back to do better, or study harder. Thank you! I did learn a lot from them. Overall, the adjunct instructors I had were very knowledgeable and supporting. Grantham should listen to them and take some advice.

Value: It’s poor! I have not advanced in the Air Force with this degree. I have applied for State Jobs in IL...no luck there. It looks as if the only job I can get is the one I currently have. Wake up Grantham...you students need both Regional and ABET accreditation. I have been told by Grantham, We’re obtaining both since 2001. It isn't going to happen...bad on you for not keeping your word Grantham...shame on you!

Use of Technology: It could use improvement. I t does use very good technology for software via distance learning. I think using some hands-on circuit breadboards, multimeter, and a hand-held o-scope would be very beneficial. Also, use video for instructing students on-line.

My comments about cheating: I want to say I never cheated and for those that did...shame on you! You know Grantham’s "Code of Conduct" and its policy about cheating. It’s like any other school; if you’re caught you get in trouble. That should fall more on the person than Grantham because you can not get through life or your next job if you’re a cheater.

I would like to see from Grantham: Obtain Regional and ABET at the same time. Offer a Master's program for Engineering. Start an undergrad program for Electrical and Computer Engineering, Biomedical Engineering, and Biomedical Engineering Technology.

My final comments: Grantham if you can hear me...you know my thoughts since I constantly email about "what my expectations are from you" so wake up and smell the darn coffee. Also, for current Grantham students if you’re going to complain this is a good place, ripoffreport, and the Better Business Bureau. My advice to students is complaining to Grantham’s President, Dean and Provost and let them know just how you feel about the school. Also, let them know you’re unhappy and if things do not change for the better and soon you will take your money elsewhere. . Grantham…its time to act now before it’s too late!

Investigations July 11, 2007 at 4:39 p.m.

I have seen comments on here saying that Grantham is being investigated. It always is written " I heard that gratham is being investigated by...." Name your source. Where do you see this? I can not find a single document or anything saying Grantham is being investigated. That would be like me saying that I heard Grantham is joining MIT's engineering department. If you dont reference a real source then I have to assume your pulling it out of your chair warmer.

Who cares? July 19, 2007 at 5:52 p.m.

Who cares if Grantham is being investigated. They stink, non the less. Investigation or not, people ARE dropping out and going to other school. Grantham enrollments are down and keep going down. Their service stinks, their accreditation stinks, their management stinks, their education stinks. A school where you teach yourself??? Yeah, right.