Henley-Putnam University
Established: 2001
Accreditation: DETC
For-Profit: Yes
Country: USA
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Recent Henley-Putnam University Reviews:
Henley-Putnam
October 3, 2008
great school, great instructors, best customer care and service of any school i have attended.
Real World Applications
September 27, 2008
I've found Henley- Putnam to be an efficient, effective learning environment. Where a flexible staff nurtures and fosters creative and critical thinking from its students. Concepts and frameworks that are applicable in real world environments. What you learn you can use on the job!
Real World Learning
September 22, 2008
Having worked in the intelligence field for about 12 years now, I have found Henley Putnam to offer the greatest number and most applicable courses suited for real world experience and application. The instructors have not only revealed knowledge in the material, but also a caring for student comprehension and ...
Comments:
John Q.Public February 21, 2008 at 8:43 p.m.
Henley-Putnam is ONLY Nationally Accredited,with no plans to gain Regional Accreditation status.Bottom line- Wildly expensive,outside of the Federal Aid System, and unwilling to go regional. AVOID!
Jamie February 22, 2008 at 5:42 a.m.
DETC (national) accreditation is just as valid as any regional accreditation, and the Secretary of Education has officially recognized DETC since 1959 and by the Council for Higher Education and its predecssors since 1975. There has been over 140 million graduates from DETC institutions since the 1890s.
The DETC meets precisely the same standards as do the regionals. They have vastly more experience and tougher, more stingent standards for distance learning than any other agency in the United States, as such, distance learning is their speciality.
DETC schools are now eligible to become a federal aid provider, so this is a null and void issue.
Again, the DETC and regional accreditors have to meet the EXACT same standards of quality to earn recognition through the US Department of Education and CHEA. In addition, the DETC accredits each and every course offered through their accredited institutions and are evaluated by subject matter experts. The regionals do not do this and only accredit the entire institution as a whole. DETC reaccredits schools every five years. The regionals do it every 10 years. The regionals have been put on notice by the US Department of Education for not focusing on student outcomes. The DETC was recognized once again by US DoE with no issues for the maximum amount of time (5 years).
You see, if you educate yourself and others about accreditation you'd be amazed of the quality differences between regional and DETC.
tic tac March 21, 2008 at 7:48 a.m.
A little article about the problems with DETC.
Jack T. April 22, 2008 at 9:16 p.m.
Jamie,
If DETC were "just as valid as regional accredidation" then schools such as New Mexico State University, Penn State University, etc... would seek national accredidation. DETC is, and always will be, concidered to be a complete joke by those who really know anything about higher education. Bottom line, if a school is not regionally accredited, avoid it at all costs because the "degrees" they "award" are nothing more than worthless pieces of paper.
Regards,
Jack
Dhillon April 27, 2008 at 12:32 a.m.
Jack,
I am not a student at the Henley Putnam nor at the American Military University. But if you are some body who is looking for an education in field of Intelligence, counter-terrorism and protection services, then quite possibly the Henley-Putnam University and the American Military University are the universities to go to. This is especially true if you are already in the industry like I am. Always pay close attention to the actual subject matter that is being taught in the university, the depth of the courses that you are planning to take and the professors teaching the courses. If you are in the military or law enforcement industry, there aren't too many legitimate choices out there. These two colleges are both recognized by the Dept. of Education and both seem to maintain a very high level of integrity in their programs. Henley Putnam University particularly seems to have some unique course that are relevant to the industries and they also have professors that are actually from various agencies such as CIA, NSA, Secret Service, FBI, etc, with rather vast years of experience. Do your own research and ask your self what are your career and your life goals? When i look at applicants that have applied for a position i will take someone that has received a real education from the professionals that has been there and done that instead of a applicants that have received an education from a bunch of "paper tigers" like you see at the regionally accredited universities you mentioned. Give me a break please, a professor who has never stepped in to the "field" is not going teach me a whole lot about "intelligence operation" and or "covert operation strategies", and worry less about the "piece of paper". A degree from a regional accredited university is useless if you can not get a job with it! I do not see too many regional accredited universities out there right now teaching anything about intelligence and counter-terrorism and protection services. And a few that are did not impress me at all due to the fact the course contents were shallow and irrelevant and the professor did not have any "real" experience in the "field". Do the research yourself and then make a decision as to which institution will give you the best EDUCATION and the best chance to be hired my federal and private organization.
Regards,
Dhillon
Kevin May 2, 2008 at 8:16 a.m.
Dhillon,
Good comments, but I want to point out that American Military University is regionally accredited as well as DETC. It's not quite the same as HPU. Both great schools though!
John Q.Public June 26, 2008 at 9:08 p.m.
Oh Jamie!!! You make me laugh and laugh with your capitalistically delusional spin on how you are just as good as regionals...YOU AREN'T!!!! As to the availability of Federal funding ,I was told by one of your boiler room salespeople...ER...I mean "academic counselors" that they would be more than happy to "arrange"funding through private sources only.I also find it hard to believe that any real learning can occur in such short classes.In short,I choose not to purchase a degree that is on a par with the University of Phoenix!
To Q Public June 27, 2008 at 7:09 p.m.
The Truth about DETC Accreditation
The first thing that must be addressed is what is the DETC and their history. The Distance Education and Training Council Accrediting Commission (DETC) is considered to be the premier accrediting authority of distance learning, accrediting more than 100 institutions worldwide.
Since 1926, the DETC has evolved as a highly respected public non-profit organization dedicated to accrediting and improving distance learning institutions. Since 1890, more than 135 million students have enrolled in DETC institutions.
DETC accredits some of the largest known institutions in the world including the military distance learning institutions operated by the Air Force, Army and Marine Corps. Since World War II, millions of veterans have studies with DETC institutions earning degrees and job enhancing skills.
Over 4 million students are enrolled in DETC institutions, and over 500 fields of study are offered, ranging from accounting to yacht design. DETC institutions offer instruction at the Kindergarten through the Professional Doctoral Degree level (e.g., Doctor of Business Administration and the Doctor of Education.)
DETC has enjoyed the official recognition of the U.S. Department of Education since 1959, and since 1975, DETC has been recognized by the Council for Higher Education Accreditation or its predecessor organizations. This means that institutions like Henley-Putnam meet the same standards as applied by the regional accreditors, but DETC, given its specialty and vast experience in distance learning, and being the only recognized accreditor that focuses solely on distance learning, applies more rigors standards for distance learning. As a matter of fact, many regional accreditors that started to develop online courses went to the DETC for guidance and utilized their standards.
With its 80-plus years of history and its highly refined and federally recognized accreditation program, DETC offers distance learning institutions the most current, relevant and practical services for the 21st Century.
Anonyomus June 27, 2008 at 7:25 p.m.
Regarding "Q Public's" ridiculous comments;
First off, the way you're coming across is so far in left field that your comments alone dictate your inept thought process.
There are many DETC institutions that are either already approved for federal funding and/or are in the process of getting federal funding. Achiveing the status of being a Title IV school is a long process. In addition, many schools, including tradtional ones, offer several options for financing including private loans.
I wouldn't venture to comment on any classes at Henley-Putnam unless you've been lucky enough to be a student. The student reviews have been very positive and there are many valid reason behind those comments.
Jamie the Shill July 13, 2008 at 11:47 a.m.
Jamie has been exposed in the CSU blog as a shill who shamelessly promotes the universities that employ him. He works for Henley Putnam and guess who has been here to push it... Jamie the shill of course!
Dr. Freud July 17, 2008 at 1:47 a.m.
You can ignore John Q., he is in every forum on this website, he hates for profit online schools, he will switch names.
Two Cents July 24, 2008 at 12:40 a.m.
I've been debating enrolling with HP. The admissions coordinators definitely hound you to enroll, but then all of the universities I've spoken to do that. The price seems a bit steep though.
I'm not sure what all the fuss is over accreditation. If you plan on completing your degree with the same university you started at, it isn't an issue.
I think John Q. is just a spammer that works for some "regional" university and is out to discredit any and all online schools. Yep, you John Q., are a shill because you spam the other review sites as well.
Tracy Thinks John Sucks September 1, 2008 at 4:38 p.m.
John hits another message board. People beware of this rambling think he knows it all idiot.
Mark September 23, 2008 at 12:23 a.m.
Can anyone tell me, if this school is worth going to as far as there acredidation goes? If I recive a Master degree from them, will I get turned down by Federal agencies such as thr FBI CIA etc, just wondering?
To Mark September 25, 2008 at 8:44 p.m.
Henley-Putnam accreditation is recognized by the U.S. Department of Education and CHEA, which means federal agencies will accept your degree.
H-PU October 3, 2008 at 4:23 p.m.
Henley-Putnam University has a newly coveted professional doctorate degree program in Strategic Security (DSS). This is a historical milestone for the university as it is the only accredited doctorate degree program of its kind and no other university in the world offers such a program. The university website will soon be updated with the details of the DSS.
obviously your parent: October 10, 2008 at 1:23 a.m.
enough with the stone-throwing! Get back to the real deal.
Student October 20, 2008 at 11:17 p.m.
Mark,
Yes the CIA will consider the degree as valid. I don't know about any of the other agencies though. If you contact their recruitment department they will send you a link to a website on accredited schools. If the school you are considering is listed, they'll accept the degree.
read this November 8, 2008 at 10:58 p.m.
here are two great sites that explain about natinal and regional accreditation.
1. www.military-advanced-education.com/arti...
2.distancelearn.about.com/od/accreditationinfo/a/DETC_Interview.htm
bottom line is there is no real difference other than the style of learning format.
Craig November 15, 2008 at 6:33 a.m.
Interesting topics all. But I have a question regarding courses at Henley-Putnam.
I am totally interested in the enrollment of the Masters Degree in Intelligence Management and the Doctorate Program. After reading the description, I realized that the Strategic Security Doctorates Degree covers only a few fields of Intelligence Management, Terrorism and Counterterrorism Studies, and Protection Management.
My question is: Does the Doctoral Strategic Security Degree allow you to take the same courses that are required in the Intelligence Management curriculum, or do you just follow the required curriculum for the Doctorates Degree?
From what I see, the Doctorate Program does not offer most of the INT courses like the Masters Degree does.
Thanks!
John W. November 19, 2008 at 1:40 a.m.
"Henley-Putnam accreditation is recognized by the U.S. Department of Education and CHEA, which means federal agencies will accept your degree."
This is not true! Be carefull, this school is not regionally acredited and will not be recognized by the FBI, ATF, NCIS, etc. This is not a "is regional better than national" argument. According to these agencies,they will not accept a degree that is not regionally accredited. I was thinking of getting a Masters here, but have chosen not to due to the lack of RA. Go to the FBI website if you doubt me.
Daniel F. November 19, 2008 at 10:33 a.m.
John W,
Have you contacted these agencies directly to inquire about their views on HPU? Or are you just making that assumption based on the wording of their websites (which may not have specifically mentioned DETC)?
Either way, I have to disagree with your point. In April 2008, HPU entered an official agreement with the FBI to actually incorporate the agency's existing employees into its student and faculty bodies (you can run a google search for the press release). In addition, HPU has academic partnerships with the Center for Counterintelligence/Strategic Security Studies, and CTC International; both staffed by members of CIA, FBI, DOJ, etc.
HPU's current faculty include active and retired members of the CIA, FBI, DIA, etc who will not only provide you with a respectable education, but will also help you with job placement, particularly in the federal community.
From the standpoint of a student in the Master's program, I can tell you the degree is top notch. Very challenging and very rewarding. And certainly not regarded as worthless by the federal agencies.
Lastly, you mentioned you were looking at the Master's program in order to seek employment with a federal agency. Last time I checked, the minimum requirement for this was a Bachelor's degree (generally in any field, depending on what you're applying for). Is your BA not regionally accredited?
All in all, I would just ask that you verify your facts before posting alarming messages...and then provide a more evidence-based argument when you do (something more than just "look at their website"). These agencies' human resource departments are extremely robust and in most cases, their websites are far from complete when it comes to describing the hiring criteria. If I'm wrong, I'll admit it...but since learning about HPU, I've never heard the accusation that their degree is not federally accepted.
John W. November 19, 2008 at 1:55 p.m.
Daniel F.
Yes, I have not only talked with recruiters, I have taken and passed the phase one exam of the FBI. I could not do that unless I had a regionally accredited degree. Regardless of how great you think the DETC is, it is not a qualifier for federal employment.
Now, you mention that you have an agreement to incorperate existing employees into HPU, thats great, Im sure they will bring a lot to the table, but it still doesn't change the fact that school does not have regional acccreditation and therefore, will not be seen as legit by the federal government or the military for those interested in becoming commisioned officers. Having instructors with regionally accredited degrees does not make the school regionally accredited.
"All in all"...i would recomend you be truthfull with those asking questions on this board before they decide to spend money on a degree thay can't use.And, ask all your high speed teachers from the CIA, DIA, FBI etc if any of their degrees are nationally accredited only. I understand that you are most likely a recruiter for the school, but i know I would be upset if I got a degree here and was denied employment due to accreditation.
Also, I did not say I was looking to get a Masters for Federal employment, Im just looking to get a Masters.
To John W November 19, 2008 at 3:47 p.m.
From the FBI website:
"To become an FBI Special Agent you must be a U.S. citizen or a citizen of the Northern Mariana Islands. You must be at least 23 years of age, but younger than 37 upon your appointment as a Special Agent. You must possess a four-year degree from a college or university accredited by one of the regional or national institutional associations recognized by the United States Secretary of Education."
Get your facts straight; as you can see they accept a bachelor's degree from a regional or NATIONAL institutional association. DETC is a national accreditor recognized by US DoE and CHEA.
John W. November 19, 2008 at 4:01 p.m.
I stand corrected. When I took the exam, degrees had to be regionally accredited. My apologies.
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Jamie February 8, 2008 at 7:13 p.m.
From a faculty point of view, Henley-Putnam University is top notch. The faculty are all highly specialized in their field of expertise including professonal backgrounds from the CIA, FBI, U.S. Secret Service, DIA, Special Forces.
Henley-Putnam is proud of its outstanding faculty; more than 50 seasoned professionals with over 1,300 years of cumulative field experience—more than 22 years of experience for every instructor. Over 82% hold a masters or doctorate degree from prestigious institutions including the University of California at Berkeley, Yale, Cambridge, Stanford, and Georgetown. Over one-third of our instructors are published in their field.
Henley-Putnam University offers bachelor and master degrees in protection management, counterterrorism and intelligence. They are nationally accredited by the DETC, which is a recognized accreditor through the U.S. Department of Education and CHEA.