Trident University International : BSCS Reviews
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Dustin.jones1981
(In Progress) on January 1, 2012
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Computer Science without a serious math requirement.
I don't have a problem with online schools. I do have a problem with a so-called computer science program without basic foundational courses. Computer science programs should include calculus, discrete mathematics, data structures, and several others not included in TUI's program. If you want to go on to graduate school for computer science, this school will not prepare you. Look for a school that follows the recommendations of the ACM or is ABET accredited. I feel that there is very little actual computer science being taught at this school, and the fact is, the math courses they do require are waived if you have an AAS from the CCAF (which only requires 3 credits of math). Those classes at Trident are College Mathematics, "Advanced Mathematics", and Basic Statistics. Super easy, non rigorous math classes... With no tests...The thing you will learn here is how to write a paper and how to depend on google to be your guide. Programming classes are application based, and there is little emphasis on CS theory. Course materials are horrible overall, but some courses were better than others. You will not learn low level stuff like assembly, compilers, or even C. You will learn to be an entry level code monkey doing mostly web based apps and no CS grad program will take you without a lot of prerequisites. One thing they do well... Deadlines are flexible.
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Anonymous
(Graduate) on October 19, 2011
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Mixed feelings
I am a graduate of the BSCS program and have mixed feelings about what I got from TUI (now Trident). First and foremost, I can truly say that during my 2 year with TUI I most certainly learned the subject material; however, the “school” played little part in my learning other than a broad direction and of course my degree.
I have been a hobbyist Java programmer since junior high school and have gradually expanded my knowledge since. Today, I like to classify myself as a Java Rock-Star so when it came to the different CS classes at TUI, I typically had no issues completing the technical assignments. TUI provided little to no “education” as mentioned previously by some of the poster here, they just provide links to other schools & organizations. Ruby on rails for example, is “taught” by having the students simply complete the ruby on rails tutorial given on the RoR website… why on earth should I pay $1200 to learn something that is otherwise free?... For ruby on rails, I actually turned to the UC Berkeley YouTube channel, which provided a much more in depth and world-class introduction to the topic.
Secondly, as some have mentioned, the writing criteria at TUI seems to be sub-standard. I am by no means a great or even good writer (one of the reasons I didn’t go to college out of high school). Yet I typically got A’s on essays and research papers that were probably within the realm of a C or maybe a low B (I’ve never been to a brick-and –mortar school so I have no comparison).
The one thing that I believe is incorrect in these postings is saying that TUI is “easy” (specifically the BSCS program). The courses were certainly easy for me but that’s due in large part to my past experience with programming (you know one O.O. language you know them all). For a beginner, I feel that these courses may in fact be too difficult, due to the lack of professor-student interaction.
On that note, the “threaded discussions” were a joke. I would do a bit of internet research on a given topic (including Wikipedia) and then formulate my own thought and post it as a response. Most of the other student responses however, were literally copied and pasted from the sources I had just read, verbatim! Again, I cannot speak from experience but it seems that any worthwhile CS instructor would catch things like that…
Overall, I am happy to finally get my B.S. but as far as career possibilities go, I think the B.S. from TUI alone won’t get me very far. I was lucky enough to get into my current career based on experience alone. I fully plan on applying for a Master’s program this year but it certainly won’t be from an online school. The lucky thing is that TUI is technically still WASC accredited until March, which means that Stanford (The grad school I’m applying to) will accept then as my undergrad. If I am accepted, it will by no means be a result of my “education” from TUI but from my skills in computer science and my experience in the industry.
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Anonymous
(In Progress) on September 6, 2009
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TUI is a good school on the upswing!
I recommend TUI to anyone looking for an online education. TUI is not perfect, but in all fairness, I think benefits outweigh the downfalls.
After reading all of the attached views, I have found truth in many of the claims (both positive and negative). TUI is currently the only online university that is accredited by the Western Association of Schools & Colleges. (Same accreditation as UCLA or Berkeley, for that matter) TUI has a great price point in comparison to many other universities. The due dates are somewhat flexible and the professors are always eager to help.
With that said, the material is not always up to date, but it is improving. I took a Java class over a year ago and failed because of similar reasons that someone else mentioned. The course was not setting anyone up for success, it was confusing, difficult to comprehend, and had a horrible work flow. Not to mention the share of dead links is highly frustrating.
With that said, a year later I have since re-taken some courses and TUI has made a very strong effort for improving their curriculum. The courses seem to all be in the process of rewrites and this time around they make sense. TUI has set up online material so that problems like dead links can be quickly corrected, and furthermore the assignments (for the most part) deal with relative studies.
I think choosing TUI is great choice, but in doing so you must be ready for a different approach to learning, and understand the difficulties that come with an online education. Graduating from TUI takes strong willpower and solid writing skills.
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