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Nov. 22, 2010, 3:10 a.m.
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In all the rehashing of old worn out arguments it's important to remember that it was only that "university" who unjustly enriched themselves through their deceipt in inflating the value of their "service" and worthless "degree" - 

The students (many of whom really did work at hard at their studies and accomplished some real learning) did no wrong and should not be impuned even when they mistakenly defend that outfit.
Nov. 21, 2010, 9:35 p.m.
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that it is correct that students get 40% of credit off (though I doubt its that much, at the undergraduate level this is far less common as many students on this board will tell us), than it really is misleading to say that students can get that much credit in less than 16 hours.

The witness who testified at the hearing only took two classes and, from the sound of it they were fairly easy. My own experience at one brick and mortar school (Kansas State University) was that there were certain classes where you got A's just for showing up. No there were not many. I happened to be in the Architecture and Design program (or Environmental Design as it was called) and it was a brutally hard program. But I do remember one or two such classes like that.

It seems to me that this witness actually looked for extremely easy courses to build her case with. At any rate, I am convinced that if I could take this same witness and as her to complete certain classes in which I would select than she would not have it so easy.

I would add that even the editor of the Cheyenne Herald, an individual who is very much hostile towards this University is willing to admit that students did work hard pursuing their education at WNU and KWU before it.
Nov. 21, 2010, 9:23 p.m.
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I wanted to add that I was very saddened to find Dick Durban, a man I respected a greate deal and who has been a friend to working people was involved it that farce.

Come on Dick! You are better than that!


Re: shhhhhhhhhhhhh

Some are, but Senators Collins and Lieberman still are there. This is even after Lieberman's own party voted him out. That guy is like some kind of monster that you cannot kill.

Come to think of it he even looks like something un-dead!
Nov. 22, 2010, 10:29 p.m.
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"The witness who testified at the hearing only took two classes and, from the sound of it they were fairly easy."

That was the whole point of the investigation of the diploma mills, that there was no academic rigor involved.

Remember, this was a graduate level course, and the KW"U" student taking the course had no prior background. From the sworn testimony:

*"As for my first-hand experience with Kennedy-Western courses and passing the tests, I found that basic familiarity with the textbook was all that I needed. I was able to find answers without having read a single chapter of the text.*
Nov. 23, 2010, 12:46 a.m.
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heraldbulletin.com/education/x1305238720/ACS-Administrator-has-doctorate-degree

LOL, These timebombs keep going off...

October 2010.

BOOM!
March 10, 2012, 8:07 a.m.
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You will never answer the question, will you?

Well you forgot to mention something in what you just posted:

This so called investigation did not have one single witness to defend Warren. It was one sidede and comprised of a disgruntled ex employee whose testimony had absolutely nothing to do with the quality of education at Warren. Just some guy who took his anger over his ex employer on the very students he recruited in the first place. In other words a complete hypocrite. 

The other was someone who took only one course in the entire program and claims to have passed it in 16 hours. A claim that no one else seems to have been able to do.

As for the class action suite, its bogged down in court. I do think some students may have a legitimate reason to sue the school though I think their time and energy would be better put in suing the State of Wyoming.

As for the academic officer, if what she said is true than she is a complete hypocrite for profiting off a school that she believed was not legitimate. Having read the garbage she said I am inclined to believe that she is lying. Or at the very least citing a few anecdotal incidents of misconduct and attempting to explaine it as being standard operating procedure.

And let me as this one more time: WHY ARE YOU COMMING HERE TO SAY BAD THINGS ABOUT STUDENTS AT A SCHOOL WHICH NO LONGER EXISTS AND WHICH YOU NEVER ATTENDED?

March 9, 2012, 9:29 p.m.
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In addition to my personal experience, I can only continue to point to factual information as published by independent 3rd party sources that has not been refuted.  In fact, the most damaging info was provided by WNU employees in the Senate investigation, students in a class action suit, and ranking academic officers in an interview.

You seem to be the outlier, pointing to unsubstantiated irrelevancies that contradict all published reports.
March 9, 2012, 9:41 a.m.
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Re: Real World

You are ignoring my question.
Why does a non-graduate of Warren or Kennedy-Western come here to bad mouth a school that no longer exists?
March 8, 2012, 9:58 p.m.
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Hong Pyo;
The University of Nowhere will take your credits.  Good luck!
March 6, 2012, 6:51 p.m.
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Re: Hong Po

There are no more representatives of Warren National since the school ceased to exist.

If credits are a problem you might try University of Southern New Hampshire.

Also try DeVry University. I am not sure if University of Phoenix accepts Warren credits. Also Grand Canyon University was accepting credits though they officially stopped recognizing degrees from Warren. You might want to talk to them anyway.

I think the real problem you might have, as many of us here have had is getting transcripts. It is possible but it takes a while.
March 6, 2012, 8:12 a.m.
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Re: Real world...

Another self appointed "expert" who never attended Warren is weighing in.
March 2, 2012, 7:28 a.m.
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Re: Basement Dweller 

You still have not told us,

What motivates you to come here to bash a school that you had never attended?

Warren ceased to exist as an institution. What does it profit you to come here and continue to post?

I am not trying to say anything bad about you but I need to know why?
March 2, 2012, 1 a.m.
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"I thought the school was very challenging, better than several other schools that I have attended. With that said now that Dickinson State University in North Dakota has been declared a "Diploma Mill" 

LOL, better than other schools you have attended?  What was that?  Rochville?  So of the thousands of real schools out there, one gets sanctioned, how does that relate to a defunct university that was shut down by the State?
March 1, 2012, 4:31 p.m.
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No, I am looking for Warren University representative to discuss transferring my completed credits to other University.  The schools I hoping to transferr to will not recognize my coursework.
Feb. 13, 2012, 7:48 a.m.
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Re: Hong Pyo

Getting transcripts seems to be an issue here.

Your best shot is to email bobpatterson562@gmail.com and request your transcripts.

If that does not work then contact attorney Gary Scott at the Hirst, Applegate firm in Cheyenne, WY: (307) 632-0541. 

Please let up know how that works.
Feb. 13, 2012, 4:30 a.m.
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Who can I call to discuss How do I transfer my completed Warren National Credits to other university?

Thank you
Feb. 4, 2012, 9 a.m.
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Re John C

This has been a major issue. I honestly think that you need to be persistent. I already gave Mr Peterson's email as well as the name and contact info for his lawyer, via Rothgerber, Johnson and Lyon.

I really think persistence is the key here.

Now what you say about employers really depends on the employer.

I do not pretend to know everything but I do like to give a little counter balance to all the negative publicity regarding KWU and WNU. There are too sides to every story and I think people should see it from both sides.
Feb. 3, 2012, 8:10 p.m.
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"Unlawful to discriminate against graduates of unaccredited schools"

More garbage advice from a dubious source.  Employers (as I found out) always require a college degree, and an accredited one at that as a Bonfide Occupational Qualification.  When you don't have one, you are simply unqualified for the position.

I don't know what broad point you are trying to make with your copy/paste, but as alumni, let's try to be helpful and realistic.

If you really want to help out fellow alumni, find a way to get transcripts more timely or electronically.

Feb. 3, 2012, 7:42 p.m.
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"I would get a second opinion on that tax thing"

Well, I went to the most respected tax attorney in town and had my buddy who is a CPA look into it also on the side by calling the IRS.  Both said I don't have a leg to stand on.
Feb. 1, 2012, 8:41 a.m.
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I posted this before but since old posts are soon forgotten:

Unlawful to discriminate against graduates of unaccredited schools

degreeinfo.com/distance-learning-discussions/30860-unlawful-discrimate-against-graduates-unaccredited-schools(dot)html

THE ACT OF ACCEPTING A GRADUATE SOLELY BECAUSE THE SCHOOL ATTENDED WAS ACCREDITED OR UNACCREDITED, AND NOT BECAUSE THE ALUMNUS IS QUALIFIED IS DEEMED TO BE AN UNLAWFUL ACT OF PRACTICING "STATUS DISCRIMINATION," PUNISHABLE UNDER THE U.S. CONSTITUTION, UNDER THE LAWS OF STATES, AND UNDER THE RULES OF THE GENEVA CONVENTION/WORLD COURT AT THE HAGUE.
Feb. 1, 2012, 8:14 a.m.
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Re: Re: If it were me

Another self-appointed "expert" who never attended our school stating another worthless opinion.
Jan. 30, 2012, 6:15 a.m.
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Strangely enough, sometimes a bureaucrat gets it right.

I know, hard to believe that even a "Johnny Cochran" lawyer wouldn't be able to successfully refute the fact that WN"u"s Wyoming license was meaningless and that Warren was not a "real" college.

It's sad really, since so many students did study hard but ended up with a worthless "degree".  
Jan. 28, 2012, 8:56 a.m.
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I would get a second opinion on that tax thing.
You might look at Herb Cohen's "You can negotiate anything." It gives some useful advice on how to deal with bureaucrats.
Jan. 27, 2012, 4:21 p.m.
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Yes, this was after I talked to a tax attorney.  Since WNU was unaccredited and unrecognized, it does not meet the requirements for the IRS tax credits / tuition deductions.  I brought up the State of Wyoming license they held and was told that it was largely meaningless in general, but totally meaningless to the IRS.

So, no, I do not have a very good defense.

Guess I threw some good money after bad.
Jan. 25, 2012, 6:52 p.m.
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You might consider a good tax attorney. The IRS is making a completely arbitrary decision and for them to say Warren is not a "real" college is going beyond their responsibilities. Consider that Warren and Kennedy-Western before it were license by a public entity (the State of Wyoming) I think you have a very good defense.
Jan. 24, 2012, 9:38 p.m.
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I'm amazed to find out my degree is worthless after all these years, the only way I found out was from the IRS and needed more proof of the money I spent, only to find out it was not considered a real college and have to pay back my deduction.
Jan. 3, 2012, 7:22 a.m.
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I did so by emailing bobpatterson562@gmail.com

It took a very long time but it finally happened.

If you do not get immediate results I suggest you need to be persistent.
Jan. 3, 2012, 1:13 a.m.
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I just want to know where my transcripts are physically (located)and who has possession of them. Has anyone successfully acquired theirs after they closed?
Dec. 23, 2011, 8:31 a.m.
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Re: My 2 cents:
And I am proud of my Kennedy-Western degree. And I did not waste any money. Whats your point?
Dec. 23, 2011, 6:35 a.m.
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Even if you wasted some money at KWU, never too late to go back and get a valid college degree!  I did and am very proud of it, it has been useful in the workforce too.
Dec. 11, 2011, 3:46 p.m.
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"Experienced"
Glad to see someone admit it is the value the student supplies to the employer and not accreditation of a child molesting university that matters.
Dec. 6, 2011, 6:04 p.m.
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Those NASA engineers may not have had an "accredited" degree but it's also certain that they didn't just purchase a "diploma" or "degree" from some "read the book write the test" outfit.  They did have authentic credentials and were obviously quite competent in their fields of endeaver.  They also probably had a good grasp of the English language and could communicate well unlike many of WN'u's "graduates".

(Note that although this sounds like student bashing it is NOT.  It was the perpetrators of that online money-generating outfit that are deservedly being sued.  Many students did study hard but were duped into thinking that a K-W degree had some value.)
Nov. 23, 2011, 12:29 a.m.
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The day the U.S. put a man on the moon, not one single Engineer at NASA had a degree from an accredited university.
Nov. 22, 2011, 12:51 a.m.
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Re Honest John

You are evading the question. 

Only one person ever said its possible to earn (and I am not talking about any credit for life experience, I do mean earn) 40% of their credit through testing. That was the witness who lied in front of the US Senate. 

No where in that lawsuit you keep citing or the hypocrite CAO who enriched herself off of the students at Warren and then threw them under the bus, did it say that this is possible. I repeat, No where. 

I rest my case.
Nov. 21, 2011, 5:38 a.m.
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And I'll keep giving you the same answer.  If a Senate investigation, the Chief Academic Officer of WNU, and hundreds of students in a lawsuit say it can be done exactly that way, what is on the other side of the argument that you can document? 

1 anonymous internet poster?    LOL.
Nov. 18, 2011, 8:53 a.m.
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Re: James

I am laughing at your refusal to answer the same question which had been asked of you time and time before.

Tell me of one instance (other than that laughable testimony at that farce of an investigation before the US Senate) in which anyone could claim to have passed 40% of their classes in 16 hours.

I insist it cannot be done.
Nov. 18, 2011, 5:50 a.m.
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Sorry that you are in denial, hundreds of students have now said in sworn testimony what WN"u" was really about. 

Large "life experience" awards.  Multiple choice tests you could take multiple times to count as a "class".  It was exactly that, which will be it's legacy.  Many of us have moved onto either the lawsuit or starting over and getting a real degree.

And I laugh at your assertion that anyone accepts degrees from WN"u"
Nov. 16, 2011, 7:49 p.m.
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Re: James

I would like to answer what you posted:

47 So what? Many accredited schools have similar admissions policies. Do you really think its that hard to get into the University of Phoenix?

48 Totally subjective. Some businesses accept degrees from Warren. Some do not.

49
c Not really true. Instructors were available. You could also get help from other students via the message board. I would agree that the availability of instructors was less than perfect but I do not think it different from other distance learning programs.
d Not really. Students could do this for 4 out of ten courses. And students still had to figure out the answers. It really was not as easy as it is described here.
e Red herring. There were lectures posted online. I would add that in most classes I took at accredited schools it was no different. In fact, most colleges courses draw their exam material from text books.

BTW: Did any of your sources happen to mention the 100 page final project required of all students?
Nov. 16, 2011, 7:18 a.m.
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Re: James

Sorry, I meant to say 16 hours.

Again, no where in the suite do any students cite that it is possible to do this. You have not refuted my point.
Nov. 16, 2011, 7:16 a.m.
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Re: James

What you posted is a non-sequitor.

You said that it is possible to take 4 exams, which is to say 40% of the testing grades in 17 hours.

What you posted has nothing to do with what I asked you.

You still have not proven your point.
Nov. 16, 2011, 2:08 a.m.
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How the REAL students of WNU feel.  From their lawsuit.

"47. Defendant WNU had no admissions board; applications for admissions to Defendant WNU were reviewed by one person and if you could write a check for tuition you 
were enrolled. "

"48.  Defendant WNU falsely stated to the Plaintiffs that: 
d. Defendant WNU's degree meets needs for career and job advancement. 
e. Defendant WNU's degrees are accepted in business and industry."

"49. did not inform the students that: 
c. Despite requests from Plaintiffs to communicate with instructors for questions or one-on-one learning, no such instruction was provided. 
e. Students could take the same test a second time, after they learned the correct answers from the first test.  The exams were shams; there was no exam integrity. 
g. Defendant WNU's program consisted of reading a book and taking an exam. "

Sound familiar?
Nov. 16, 2011, 2:04 a.m.
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"And guess what, it is not only myself who will tell you that its impossible. Every person who attended Warren National University will tell you the same."

Well of course, all of them except the ones who testified under oath or those all suing for the exact same reasons.  I'll list some of my favorite lawsuit portions filed by the REAL students of WNU like me.
Nov. 14, 2011, 2:27 a.m.
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Another response to James:

I will repeat this to everyone: NOBODY who actually took classes and took the exams at Warren will EVER tell you that it is possible to pass 4 courses in 16 hours.

And I have spoken with a number of graduates. They all tell me the same. Its absolutely impossible.

If you can tell me otherwise than I defy you to prove it!
Nov. 14, 2011, 12:59 a.m.
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I do believe Penn.State is fully US Dept. of ED -government approved, accredited.  No?

No Senate investigations there either.  Hmm.
Nov. 14, 2011, 2:30 a.m.
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LOL

Well Daniel, neither Warren National nor Kennedy-Western before it had a football team. I doubt if there were even showers there.

Yea, the US Senate is all in a tiffy about Kennedy-Western when you have kids being sodomized at an accredited big ten school. Shows you where THEIR priorities are at!
Nov. 13, 2011, 4:27 p.m.
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And for the record, it was pretty standard operating procedure to do so.  You appear to the the only one claiming it was different.
Nov. 13, 2011, 4:26 p.m.
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"You know, four finals for four courses to be completed in 16 hours?"

I did it.  It was not a challenge.  That's not even counting my generous "life experience" award that I didn't even have to take one multiple exam for.
Nov. 14, 2011, 2:23 a.m.
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Re: James

You completed 4 complete courses in 16 hours?
I do not believe you. Can you prove it?

And guess what, it is not only myself who will tell you that its impossible. Every person who attended Warren National University will tell you the same.

The only people who claim otherwise are people who never attended the school.
Nov. 10, 2011, 6:28 a.m.
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Re Didnt whatever

So are you still unwilling to take the challenge I offered?

You know, four finals for four courses to be completed in 16 hours?

Or are you just going to keep talking trash?

Talk is cheap.
Nov. 10, 2011, 4:41 a.m.
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"Or to put it in another way, Kennedy-Western filled a gap."

Yep, it was definitely a niche market for those unable to complete a college degree.  After they were run out of business in Wyoming, there were still many real colleges offering the same degrees in business, engineering, and other fields that were accepted (unlike KWU) for grad schools and professional licensing.
Nov. 8, 2011, 5:14 a.m.
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Or to put it in another way, Kennedy-Western filled a gap. Now many will say that this was not a "real" university because it was not accredited. But I would say that it did break ground for a lot of accredited schools to follow. That simply cannot be denied.
Nov. 7, 2011, 7:10 a.m.
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I see this as something bigger actually.
The video shows that money and education are tied in together.
The cost of an education is a crime. Pure and simple. In many counties in the world, higher education is free. 
But in the US banks and schools have conspired to bilk students out of tens or even hundreds of thousands.

I do not necessarily think that unaccredited institutions are better values as those that are. But I do think that as long as it becomes too expensive for average people to pursue higher learning, unaccredited schools may be an attractive option to many.

I do know that ten years ago it was impossible to find an accredited Distance Learning program in Engineering. Kennedy-Western University and several other schools paved the way and then other accredited schools began to introduce programs. Today Walden, DeVry and several others have programs. But its important to remember that it was Kennedy-Western that started it all.
Nov. 6, 2011, 8:16 p.m.
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With as tired as the US public is with its government, government backed accreditation and the Dept. of Ed., it will not be long until non-accredited universities are looked on more favorably by the private sector than the so called "Accredited" ones.  The times, they are a changing.
Nov. 4, 2011, 3:58 a.m.
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Re: Danial

I did see that video posted by Alex Jones.
I am not 100% in his corner but that video was pretty thought provoking.
Nov. 3, 2011, 4:23 a.m.
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So why do you need to come here to post about a school that you never attended and that went out of business?

What do you get out of this?

I don't get it.
Nov. 2, 2011, 12:49 p.m.
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Go to you tube and search "Education Scam" then look at the one by the NIA.  Interesting.  
Oct. 27, 2011, 3:53 a.m.
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Congratulations?

You now have a receipt for your unaccredited degree?
Oct. 26, 2011, 5:26 a.m.
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I finally got my transcripts.

I did so by emailing bobpatterson562@gmail.com

It took a very long time but it finally happened.
Oct. 23, 2011, 5:11 a.m.
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The diploma mill lawsuit against Warren National by students is still ongoing, but I doubt that we will be able to get any money from that dump.
Oct. 22, 2011, 2:01 p.m.
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What ever came of that lawsuit several years back?  Seems like it went nowhere.
Oct. 19, 2011, 5:32 p.m.
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Southern New Hampshire University will gladly take all Warren National credits and graduates.  Contact Danielle Mullins there.   1-888-387-0861.

SNHU is regionally accredited.
Oct. 4, 2011, 4:55 p.m.
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"nor did it reveal the super secret grad school that will accept credits."

My experience from checking around is that only unaccredited colleges will take unaccredited credits or degrees.  You can Google for some of them and take your pick.
Oct. 1, 2011, 5:54 a.m.
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Sorry I forgot to address that towards you:

One more time

Contact attorney Gary Scott at the Hirst, Applegate firm in Cheyenne, WY: (307) 632-0541. 

And ask him or his secretary to send you your transcripts.

Oct. 1, 2011, 5:52 a.m.
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OK Then I will make this as easy as possible:

Contact attorney Gary Scott at the Hirst, Applegate firm in Cheyenne, WY: (307) 632-0541. 

And ask him or his secretary to send you your transcripts.
Oct. 1, 2011, 5:48 a.m.
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Re: Fakey McMoron

I really do not understand why people like yourself come to this site to bash a University which is already shut down. What do you get out of this?

Its obvious that you never attended this school. And you will never answer questions put to you.

Just curious.
Sept. 30, 2011, 5:02 p.m.
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To Macker:  Look at the timeline
1.  Investigated by the Senate
2.  Shut down by the State
3.  Sued by students

Now nobody will take the credits?

I'm starting to get a bad feeling...
Sept. 30, 2011, 4:54 a.m.
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Well, thanks for (not) help.  I did not find anything useful on the Facebook site, nor did it reveal the super secret grad school that will accept credits.  I'm not familiar with linkedindotcom.  Lost the job offer, but hopefully something else will pop up.

Stonewalled currently trying to get transcripts like everyone else.
Sept. 23, 2011, 3:25 p.m.
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Who cares about them, I earned my degree.  Will someone else post a grad school that will work with me?  Just one would be an incredible help.

Also need immediate assistance on transcripts.
Sept. 24, 2011, 3:49 a.m.
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I will explain this as easy as I can.

1 Go to linkedin(dot)com
2 If you don't have an account, than create one. It can be done in a matter of seconds.
3 Once you are logged in you can search..
Warren National University/Kennedy Western University Graduates

or 

Warren National University/Kennedy Western University Alum

You can request membership in both groups.

From there you can network with others.
You can also find several schools which accept credits from our school.
Sept. 23, 2011, 3:17 p.m.
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The heck with them, I earned my degree.  Can someone else post the name of a grad school that will work with me.

Also need immediate assistance on transcripts!
Sept. 23, 2011, 3 p.m.
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What!?!  The heck with them, I earned my degree.  Can someone else post a grad school that will work with me?

Also need an immediate response on transcripts for my employer
Sept. 23, 2011, 3:17 a.m.
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Applied for a job, but they cannot get transcripts, any help?

I just have a WNU bachelors degree, what ar ethe names of the colleges that will accept me for grad school?

Thanks in advance, 
Sept. 23, 2011, 3:42 a.m.
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This is a bit of a dangerous question. You see, many on this board would like to see any College or University penalized because they will accept credits earned at WNU or KWU. This actually happened at Grand Canyon University which is an accredited Christian college in Arizona. The Accreditation mafia got wind of it and closed the whole thing down.

For this reason I will not post the names here.

If you really need to know this than I would request membership in the Linkedin group (go to linkedin(dot)com) and request membership in the Warren National University/Kennedy-Western University group. You will get a lot of information there.
Sept. 23, 2011, 3:46 a.m.
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"The Accredit ion mafia got wind of it and closed the whole thing down."

Sorry, I meant to say that they forced Grand Canyon to stop accepting WNU and KWU degrees and credits. But anyway we need to be careful about what we say here and elsewhere.
Sept. 17, 2011, 11:58 p.m.
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"One more thing, though I dislike Facebook, there is a discussion there concerning ways around getting accepted at a few schools without having your transcripts"

For example, Rochville University and Almeda University will accept unaccredited degrees without transcripts.
Sept. 19, 2011, 7:59 a.m.
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Those are example of unaccredited institutions. I was referring to accredited schools.
Aug. 29, 2011, 1:59 a.m.
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Re: Need Help
If you look at the previous posts you will note that this is a very common problem that Alums are having. 

First of all, do not waste your time with Preston. They no longer are in any way associated with Warren National or Kennedy-Western. 

According to several sources, the former administrators of WNU are not able to send out documents until after the current lawsuit is settled. This is entirely unconfirmed but I am told that this is why we cannot get our transcripts.

Officially, you should contact Attorney, Gary Scott via email at Gscott@hirstapplegate.com and he would forward your transcript request.

To my knowledge, no one has gotten a response but that is the answer everyone gets when they call the office.

One more thing, though I dislike Facebook, there is a discussion there concerning ways around getting accepted at a few schools without having your transcripts
Aug. 22, 2011, 4:25 a.m.
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Need help finding transcripts, Does anyone have the Preston univresity contact info?
Aug. 16, 2011, 2:49 a.m.
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"I laugh at your inability to graduate from a real college."

I laugh at your inability to answer any questions presented to you.
Aug. 15, 2011, 4:02 a.m.
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Re: Bad Idea

While I do not always agree with what he says, I think Dave Featherly did write an interesting article. In his interview with the WNU student who earned that degree, I believe he had a pretty good assessment. And I liked that he stated that his problem was not with the students.

And that has always been my goal, to speak on behalf of the students.

I just get upset when people try to imply that it did not take effort for anyone to earn a degree. I am glad that someone admitted that we did have to work for our degrees.

Good work David.
Aug. 13, 2011, 10:35 p.m.
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Continued:

Also, I never said that anyone should contact Preston University regarding transcripts. That school has no connection whatsoever to WNU or KWU. At one time there was a connection but this no longer exists.
Aug. 13, 2011, 5:45 a.m.
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More info to Carla:

Earlier, someone had posted some second something else regarding Transcripts for former students. They stated the former administrators of WNU are not able to send out documents until after the current lawsuit is settled. I do not know if it is true but I only know what others are saying.

Re: Experienced, did you really read what I was saying? I am not defending the former administrator of Warren or Kennedy-Western before that, but I have argued on behalf of the students who earned their degrees there.

Sending lots of energy your way too.
Aug. 13, 2011, 4:27 a.m.
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To Carla:  Thank you for your honesty in admitting that the diploma you purchased (but never received because of the dishonesty of WN'U's owners) is worthless.  Please be advised however that it is NOT true that " ... peole will screw you at any chance they get ... ".  I too was burned by WN"u"s dishonesty but that doesn't destroy my trust in everyone.  Hang in there - although you were ripped off by those weasels I'm sure your studies did benefit you personally.

To Rainbow:  Don't recommend Preston as they are at least as bad as WN"u" was.  And ... what the heck is " ... spiritual energy ... " that you are "sending".
Sounds like a lot of BS to me which is not surprising since you have spent a lot verbiage defending those weasels who ripped off thousands of people with their phony "university".  C'mon "rainbow", wake up and see the truth - your arguments are as flimsy as the "diplomas" that WN"u" sold to their unsuspecting customers.
Aug. 12, 2011, 4:38 a.m.
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Re: Carla

You may try contacting attorney Gary Scott at the Hirst, Applegate firm in Cheyenne, WY: (307) 632-0541. He represents Bob Patterson, as well as other owners of the school. 

As strange as it would seem the representative from Rothgerber, Johnson and Lyon told me that she knew of no legal obligation that Mr Peterson had to provide transcripts.

She did suggest that if any of us contacted a lawyer than we might be able to do something but her law firm was unable to do anything further. 

As for Preston U, they were for a very brief time affiliated with Warren. Currently there is no connection whatsoever between these two colleges. Preston seems to be a Pakistani based college with a home office in LA. They keep a very low profile and last I heard they were seeking accreditation.

Anyway I am sending you lots of spiritual energy and wish you the best. Please let us know how you do.
Aug. 11, 2011, 10:52 p.m.
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I just learned of all of this today and it's most distrubing after trying to get my diploma and transcripts. I paid cash in full, in advance to Kennedy-Western for my Master's Degree - MBA with a marketing concentration. I never received my diploma, although I completed all the required coursework. 

I just want my piece of paper. I know it's worthless, but I paid for it, studied for it, earned it and I want it. We were told to contact Preston University and they are just downright rude. I can't believe they can just say, "No, we can't help you. Bye," and get away with it!

I just want that piece of paper. Man, how on earth did this happen? When will I learn - people will screw you at every chance they get.
Aug. 7, 2011, 7:31 p.m.
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Local newspaper interviews kennedy western "university" "student".  Much of the same, but still good reading.

"My talk with a Kennedy-Western degree-holder who has only recently learned just how little that degree holds for her."

cheyenneherald.com/_pdf/2011/August%202011/August%202,%202011%20page%208.pdf
July 29, 2011, 3:58 a.m.
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Re: Bad Idea:

Exectedly substandard you say?

Just what does the word "exectedly" mean?

Those who live in glass houses should not misspell words.
July 22, 2011, 8:10 p.m.
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"So you are saying that it is unlawful to join Facebook groups? This is interesting."

Your reading comprehension is exectedly substandard.

Anyone can join any type of facebook group of course, but publicly associating with organizations that are specifically listed in many state laws would be considered unwise by some.
July 15, 2011, 5:04 p.m.
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Re: Bad Idea:

So you are saying that it is unlawful to join Facebook groups? This is interesting. 

I would guess that the Accreditation Mafia is hard at work. First they shut down all colleges which are not up to their own standards, then they passed (unenforceable) laws in some areas which criminalized possessors of degrees. Now they are making it illegal to link up on social media?

Nice work guys. Guess its time to bury my American flag.

Better hide your copy of the US Constitution. That will be the next thing to go.
July 14, 2011, 8:26 p.m.
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"You might want to join the Facebook group at 
facebook.com/pages/Kennedy-Western-UniversityWarren-National-University-Alumni/117171474969710"

I cannot think of a worse idea.  Be smart, stay below the radar, do not attach your name to Kennedy Western or Warren National in any public or searchable format.
July 11, 2011, 7:34 p.m.
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I will admit one thing though, I always prefer the self policing approach to weeding out graduates of institutions which some employers would believe does not meet their own standards, to de jure enforcement. E.G.If you do not want to hire a WNU or KWU grad than that's your business. Just do not pass any laws telling me who I can hire.
July 11, 2011, 7:22 p.m.
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Re: Richard J.

So where did YOU get YOUR MBA?
And who do you think YOU are fooling?
July 9, 2011, 5:34 a.m.
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Had the most comical interview with an MBA from this supposed college.  Needless to say, it did not go well for him.  Who do these morons think they are fooling?
July 3, 2011, 1:52 a.m.
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Facebook is the DEVIL!

See "The Social Network!"
July 1, 2011, 4:27 a.m.
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Re: Albert R:

You might want to join the Facebook group at 
facebook.com/pages/Kennedy-Western-UniversityWarren-National-University-Alumni/117171474969710

You have some interesting ideas. I saw this same thing posted before. Maybe it was you.

Its not a bad idea to restart the University but if it moves to Florida it would have to be under the original name of Kennedy-Western since Warren is the name of the first Governor of Wyoming.

Someone would need to pony up some money to get it started and thats the real problem. If it is done, I hope that they do it the honest way and really get serious about getting accrdition.

But if someone can make this happen I think it would be good.
June 30, 2011, 2:45 a.m.
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The quality of the latest posting by "Albert" is quite indicative of the quality of "education" received by wn"u".  There's no way this individual could earn a degree from a real university as a decent command of the English language is a must with legitimate schools.
June 30, 2011, 12:28 a.m.
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Warren national University, should be open operation again. the education was excellent.They have the high technology and the tools necesary to solver the accreditation.they can to get accreditation in other states. Example Florida is great play for to get ac
creditation with Advanc/ ED. Worlde Wide. Advanced School Accreditation for NCA/ CASI/ and SACS/ CASI Schols. they need only move to florida to get the florida state licence next applite to this licence. read the proceduct and cover the expecification. I have experience in this process if warren national University want open I am tell the process to find the acreditation.
Thank you AL R.
June 26, 2011, 8:42 p.m.
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The horse has givin up the ghost long ago so you can stop beating it.
June 26, 2011, 5:10 p.m.
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"I am now working towards a Masters."

Luckily, by your own admission, you had a real bachelors degree to get into grad school.  No recognized university accepted a degree from Kennedy Western as a basis.

June 23, 2011, 2:31 a.m.
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I did earn a degree at an accredited University as well as at Kennedy-Western. I am now working towards a Masters.

So if anyone wants to laugh than go ahead and do so.