Warren National University Reviews

Missed Opportunity

Environmental Engineering
Reviewer: Anonymous (Degree In Progress) on October 31, 2009

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I couldn't finish my degree but I must say that I worked hard for it, if not harder, since it all depended on my personal commitment. When comparing with any other traditional universities, I did not find a relevant difference on the level of education that was possible at WNU. 
In addition it had the convenience of being able to progress somewhat at your own pace, depending on personal life demands, and without being constrained by a rigid time frame. There was also the added benefit of being economically accessible without the need to drive long distances with the nightmare of rush hour traffic.
Definitely… you only take out what you put into it!
It’s a shame it wasn’t possible to keep it open while correcting its deficiencies.

My University shut down by state

DBA
Reviewer: franklin314314 (Graduate) on October 27, 2009

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The facts:  University shut down by state of Wyoming in 2009.  Nothing left of them but a lingering class action lawsuit by former students.

Did I learn anything?  Absolutely!  I learned a ton.   It was mostly self-motivated, self-structured learning with WNU providing the outline.  Very economical as to cost.  

Is my final paper filed with recognized dissertation?  No, it would not match up at all with reviewed and published disseratations, but I've been abel to take away some valueable insight to my employer.

Do I list it on my resume.  No.

Would I do it again?  For the cost, yes.

A fair Comparison

Business Administration
Reviewer: Anonymous (Graduate) on October 21, 2009

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If you do your homework and know what to expect, WNU is/was a good investment in time and dollars. I attended two traditional universities before enrolling at WNU. I knew it wasn't comparable to an accredited university, but it was everything it said it was. I didn't expect substantial instructor involvement. I did expect challenging, pertinent course work, unambiguous requirements, scrupulous grading, and timely feedback. I got all that. They held me to my academic requirements, and were critical at the dissertation phase. I liked that. I was disappointed, however, at the lack of administrative support I received during the matriculation process.

Tough as any University I attended.

Bachelor of Science
Reviewer: Anonymous (Graduate) on September 1, 2009

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Having attend 2 traditional universities I found the classes equal too and in some cases more difficult.  Good investment and I'm pleased with my degree.  The final research paper is very difficult and challenging.  It took me 6 months to complete.  The research and paper have been read by many others interested in the subject.

Diploma Mill - Pure and Simple

DBA
Reviewer: joejunkett (Degree In Progress) on August 16, 2009

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Diploma mill, pure and simple.  Gave the appearance of doing some perfunctory work, which was easy.  Has the trappings of a real university, but has not held up well in the real world.  Disappointed.

Support for WNU

Environmental Engineering
Reviewer: Anonymous (Graduate) on August 14, 2009

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To me my WNU degree is worth an investment of my time, talents, sacrifice, and money. When you enroll in WNU, you have to list as exam proctor a professional with unquestionable integrity. My proctor was a reputable full professor and researcher in an accreditated college. She did her function with timeliness and care. WNU proved to be the right university for me. It allowed me to choose my courses, complete them at my own pace, and sought tutoring with professors when I have questions. I was very pleased with my dissertation supervisor who guided and encouraged me to complete my educational goal. It took me about 5 years to complete the Ph.D. The course materials were rigorous and I worked hard and long to assemble an original dissertation which was accepted for presentation in an international conference. I believe that the student should take ownership of his/her learning. That is what I practiced. 
WNU is a trailblazer. The accrediting agency that is a good fit for the mission and educational formats of entirely virtual university such as WNU has not come to be. A virtual university cannot be evaluated on the criteria for traditional universities offering online degrees. This is an issue that WNU has to face.

legitimate degree

DBA
Reviewer: Anonymous (Graduate) on August 4, 2009

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I was a lawyer in a third world country more than 20 years ago
where money may speaks not your lips.
I was a CEO of few successful corporations in America whom under estimate the study even I am ready for my dissertations
It took me more than one year to finished this programs
HLC might want to start a program for those whom are legitimate for accreditation.

Unaccredited forced to close, student class action

DBA
Reviewer: akwon51 (Graduate) on July 27, 2009

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The Facts:  Investigated by the Senate, failed miserably in an attempt to become accredited,  forced to close by the State of Wyoming after state-hopping for quite some time, and currently there is a student class action in progress against the defunct university.  

Dissertations are not published or logged as they should be, none are available for any type of review.

Not accepted in any workplace, except in some cases through the lack of adquate applicant screening.  Definitely do not attempt to call yourself "Doctor" around anyone knowledgeable.  Illegal to use as a credential in many states.

HOWEVER...  Like many other students have noted, this may qualify as low-level CPE.  I personally found it enjoyable as an organized plan of self-study because I did not have adequate time or background to complete a recognized program.  Updated texts.  Assignments were not difficult, but if you are taking a true self-learning approach (rather than skipping the book and going right to the repeatable exams), there was knowledge to be gained.

I learned alot and have been able to leverage that in my career.  I do not list it as a formal degree.

So, it's a very crucial dichotomy.  On one hand, it was valuable to me in my educational process, but attempting to pass it off anything comparable to a formal, recognized Phd is foolish and silly.

Phd. Safety Engineering

MBA
Reviewer: Anonymous (Graduate) on July 23, 2009

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The Program Was execellent, My recommendation, Open the univesity again to work with profecional staff an to get the acreditation necesary for the warren National University. The univesity can to get profeccinal people to work only with the accreditation, Do evaluation what exactly need the university need aprove for pass the evaluation. 

Thank you

Alberto D. Robles

PhD. Safety Engineering.

Warren National U. Excellence

DBA
Reviewer: vamacs1 (Graduate) on July 23, 2009

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It is truly unfortunate that WNU closed down.  Despite the fact they were unable to obtain national accreditation, they provided an excellent education.  The PhD process was much harder than I thought it would be.  I am actually very proud of my degree and it is accepted by the Project Management Institute for CEUs.

Warren National University

Healthcare Administration
Reviewer: Anonymous (Graduate) on July 18, 2009

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I have completed Masters Degree from brick and mortal university and recently completed a PHD from Warren National University. The dissertation from Warren National University was quite rigorous and intense. I did not consider Warren National a “diploma mill” as described by some critics. Personally, I found the school’s curriculum as intense as other distance learning schools. I was quite satisfied with the school’s programs.

Human resources

MBA
Reviewer: Anonymous (Graduate) on July 3, 2009

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I had no problems all went well for me.

Severely deficient, shut down, unaccredited

Healthcare Administration
Reviewer: glassess66 (Graduate) on June 26, 2009

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Saddened by forced closure and subsequent lawsuit.  I completed the PhD in Health Administration in 2008 and have been unable to gain acceptance for this 'degree".  The work was self study and much lighter that a masters, but still some useful learning to be had.

PhD Health Administration

Healthcare Administration
Reviewer: nus4126862 (Graduate) on June 24, 2009

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I completed the PHD program in 2009. For the first time, including including my traditional Master's, I had to read the entire book.  The dissertation was a very difficult part of the program.  I had previously written a very complicated thesis in Biology.  I do not feel cheated in the least.  The books were all the same as other schools.  The review that I received for my dissertation was more critical than for my thesis.  Professors from and professionals from other schools were impressed by the quality of my dissertation.   I had to arrange my own clinical rotations which for me was easy.  Those that finish a course of study such as this show true discipline and motivation.  The pressure is on the student to succeed.  My management nor peers do not consider my education at Warren National University as second rate. My only complaint is that I was told that WNU was accredited.  Other schools were willing to accept credits.  No regrets.

California Pacific University -- DBA

MBA
Reviewer: Anonymous (Graduate) on June 14, 2009

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I completed the California Pacific University Doctor of Business Administration (DBA) degree. It's an excellent value and extremely well-designed.

PhD Health Administration

Safety Engineering
Reviewer: zenobia.james (Graduate) on June 14, 2009

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I completed the PHD program in 2008. The dissertation was the most difficult part of the program since I had a MBA and a MS in human resources. I do not feel cheated in anyway. I known the review that I received for the dissertation was per excellent. The course work benefited me in my job and my management nor peers do not consider my education at WNU as second rate. Many colleges started as non-accredited, yet produced great students before becoming accredited.

Rev. Dr. Zenobia A. James

45% Life Experience PhD = Continuing Ed Level

Safety Engineering
Reviewer: markclinis (Graduate) on June 10, 2009

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Granted 45% of PhD for life expereince and I thought it was nice general continuing educatiobn quality with current textbooks and materials.  No instructor involvement.  Just read the book and take the exams.  My employer would not accept it as an educational credentail, but did pay for a portion as self-study CPE.  Do not recommend putting this on your CV.

Ph. D. Program

Safety Engineering
Reviewer: doug.sten (Graduate) on June 9, 2009

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I have worked for few Fortune 500 & 1000 companies and traveled alot in my career.  The various local universities (brick & mortar schools)always wanted you to take a leave of absence from work (e.g. 1 1/2 years) to complete "their" Ph.D. program.  They did not offer night classes nor Saturday classes.  I have family that needed to be supported financially, so I needed to pursue other educational offerings if I wanted to "earn" my Ph. D.  I contacted KWU at the time and the people were very professional and my company approved attending under its educational tuition reimbursement program.   I spent 2 long and dedicated years in studying the prescribed safety courses and taking the 3 hour programed exams (essays) for each course.  Then spent another year doing research and writing my Ph. D. disseration.  My advisors were great.  Was it worth all that time and effort--you're damn straight it was. I am just sorry WNU was unable to receive its national accredition.

Bad apples, bad reputation

Engineering-General
Reviewer: rcuthbert (Graduate) on June 5, 2009

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I wish I had investigated this school before I spent $7600 on the degree.  Even though this school and its programs have been ravished in the media, the course work I did was real.  I didn't even consider the cheating being admitted by other students who now complain that their degrees are worthless.  I did it all the hard way by studying all chapters anddoing the practice problems.  I completed the Algebra book, Physics and the Chemistry books this way.  The tutorial support was first class and I could always expect a PHONE CALL from the professors to work out the problems.  I'm just sorry we are all smeared with the same brush because WNU was branded a diploma mill, which it was not.

Summary Evaluation

Bachelor of Science
Reviewer: Anonymous (Degree In Progress) on March 26, 2009

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I am a former student who withdrew after discovering that I was deceived by this outfit f/k/a kennedy-Western and taken for more than $7,000.  I am now now one of the many plaintiffs seeking legal financial remedy from WN"u". If anyone else wants to participate (at no initial cost since the attorneys are proceeding under a contingency fee arrangement) please write to the firm of Rothgerber Johnson & Lyons.  Their web site address is www.rothgerber.com  .

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Business Administration
Reviewer: bwinand1 (Graduate) on March 23, 2009

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I had about 3 years of Penn State credits from back in the early 80's.  Being in my mid 40's with a family of 4 to support, I felt I needed to enhance my resume with a 4 year degree.  The amount of tution wanted by other online degee providers were unaffordable.  I ended up taking 27 credits to finish ny degree.  The courses were just as tough, if not tougher than the ones I had at Penn State.  I was able to speak with PHD's when I needed help. The Blackboard technology was easy to work with.  I don't understand all the complaints.  You get out what you put into it.  One of my friends is a top level manager at a global company.  I asked him if he was looking at my resume and I listed an online degree, would that be a roadblock?  He said no and that work experience plays a larger role in hiring.  Having a 4 year degree however, separates me from other job seekers with less education.  I recently started a new higher paying job in December 2008.  In the interview process, I was never asked about my college degree.
Go figure!

 was from an "online" college affected his 
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BSHA

Bachelor of Science
Reviewer: labedford2003 (Graduate) on March 20, 2009

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I will say this for those who do not like or had a bad experience with this school, I tried appling on line with several other schools and they use the same courses same books.  On line school is not easy.  I earned this degree with blood sweat and tears at times.  I am proud of what I have accomplished at the school, and plan on going back soon.  I may have had a bad name in the past, I don't think it is that way now.

KWU Grad-2001

Quality Management
Reviewer: Anonymous (Degree In Progress) on March 14, 2009

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I received a Masters in Quality Management from Kennedy-Western in 7/2001. I now have over 20 years in the quality field and will attest that the curriculum for the degree I received was rigorous and current. The thesis project was challenging and rewarding both. I feel I received my money's worth from the school, but of course, am disappointed with the lack of accreditation. Perhaps the most relevant thing is that I learned a great deal from my studies and worked hard to get the diploma. It appears there is a disparity in the quality of the different programs and perhaps the overall benefit of the school's offerings has worsened since I attended. To those that may think I am somehow affiliated with KWU--grow up. Perhaps my experience was different than yours for many reasons, perhaps even attitude.

Diploma Mill, Shut down, no refunds

DBA
Reviewer: Andyanders71 (Degree In Progress) on March 9, 2009

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This university is shut down, will not return calls or emails or refund money.  Initially referred us to Preston University, which is also shut down.  They claim to be looking for another University for us to transfer to by 3/31/09, but I am highly skeptical.

Not just a diploma mill

Bachelor of Science
Reviewer: Anonymous (Graduate) on March 2, 2009

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I had atttended two other universities (100+ hours) before I started to take classes form WNU.  The books and course content were in line with the previous state & privite brick & morter universities I had attended.  I seemed to get more out ot the 10 classes I took at WNU than the two conventional class room universities.  I attended WNU because I was relocated by thecompany fofr which I worked and the international travel did not let me attend regualr classes.  There was a significant amount of work required for the classes and routine comprehensive testing on the material covered.  I guess it is like other schools in that what you get ouit of it depends on what you put into it.

Is it what they say it is?

Mechanical Engineering
Reviewer: genewilliamsega (Graduate) on February 18, 2009

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I graduated in 2007 with a BSME. I got promoted 3 months before my grad date in large part because of this degree. I was attending GA Tech before finishing my degree here. My job caused me to be in transit a lot so attending traditional classes was not and is not an option. I wished things where different and I graduated from GA Tech like a lot of my coworkers but a wife and 3 kids still need financial support. The classes where as hard if not harder than most classes at Tech. This my have been because WNU has crappy support. I feel I taught myself. I can see why they stopped offering the ME course because it, like any of the engineering classes, is hard to do online. If you can go to a traditional school do it. You will struggle forever legitimizing this degree. I am OK in my career as long as I do not change jobs. Then I would have to sell this degree again and again. No one will knock on my door because this hangs on my wall. This is my 2 cents.

Recent Graduate of Warren National Speaks Out

MIS
Reviewer: Anonymous (Graduate) on January 26, 2009

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I just finished a PhD degree at Warren National.  I have been taking classes for 3 years.  When I enrolled, I already had a bachelors and a Masters degree from brick and mortar schools (good ones).  I was told I would have to take all 10 required classes for this degree since my previous degree was over 20 years old.  They didn't give me any credit for life experience or prior education.  I have worked very hard for this degree and I don't feel like I can brag about it and tell anyone about it simply because it's from an unaccredited school.  This is very sad. My experience there was fine. It was no worse than any other school I have attended in terms of professors, textbooks, exams, etc.  You get out of school, what you put in to it.  You can slack off at almost any college and get by with a degree and learn nothing or you can make the most of the opportunity and come away with something valuable.  This is true of any college, ones with physical campuses and ones online.  The reason I gabe WNU mostly 5s is because they are average in most areas, like most schools. Not outstanding but good enough.

This is a flat out lie!!

Electrical Engineering
Reviewer: Anonymous (Degree In Progress) on January 23, 2009

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To the "Electrical Engineering" graduate... So, which EE program were you enrolled in where

"...help was always available. The online instructors were from some of the finest Universities in the United States; Stanford, UCLA, etc. The material was in the form of textbooks. There were online tutorials and practice examinations. There was also an online discussion board where you could connect with other students."

I am currently enrolled in the WNU (formerly KWU) Electrical Engineering (Signal Processing) degree program and I have yet to recieve acceptable support from any course "instructor". 

Online tutorials?? Again, WHERE??? I'd really like to see one. I asked one of my course instructors for lecture notes for his course (Electromagnetics)... unfortunately I was told that he could provide none because he didn't have any.  

I'll give you the practice examinations, but that is about the extent of it.

Oh and you mention the online discussion board.... Care to know how many discussion threads that I set up where "other students and I were able to connect"? Try, nil! Oh, I established discussion threads alright, but never once did I recieve a response.

Hmm... it seems very strange that your experience was vastly different than mine.

Scam - Will not return calls after taking my money

Business Administration
Reviewer: klear70 (Degree In Progress) on January 23, 2009

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My situation is very similar to everyone else's except I never withdrew from classes. I was actively trying to pursue my degree and Warren National stopped answering their telephone or responding to emails. When I ran out of classes I had no choice but to stop actively continuing in my studies. I did finally receive an email from Andree Swanson in August telling me to be patient, after a year of absolutely no contact. I have contacted my Attorney General and the Better Business Bureau. I want a full refund. If anyone has any further advice or guidance as to how to continue this it would be much appreciated.

Scam Alert

MIS
Reviewer: Anonymous (Degree In Progress) on January 11, 2009

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I enrolled when this "institution" was Kennedy Western Univ. I was told that all I needed to complete was (6) courses in order to get my degree. Approx one year after enrolling and completing (2) courses I became ill. At that time I had paid the sum of $6K to cover full tuition.When I was able to resume studies approx 18 months later, they told me that I needed to pay an additional $500 because I had not completed my degree in a timely manner. I told them to "stick it". I filed a complaint with the state AG. We will see where this goes.

Warren made my dreams come true!

Electrical Engineering
Reviewer: Anonymous (Graduate) on January 8, 2009

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I just wanted to say that it was always my dream to become an Electrical Engineer and thanks to Warren National (then known as Kennedy-Western), I am living the dream. My father was an Engineer and told me that it was his wish that I become one too. I struggled through college and finally gave up. Now, many years later made the committment to study hard and do what I needed to do.

The work was hard, very hard but I stuck with it. And Kennedy-Western was with me every step of the way, giving me advice and moral support.

I graduated two years ago and can now call myself and Engineer. Thank you Kennedy-Western.

BSME BS

Bachelor of Science
Reviewer: Anonymous (Degree In Progress) on December 30, 2008

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The "University"  changed my program, dropped my program then told me I have until Jan 31st, 2008 to complete a porgram they no longer have.  The whole time I was trying to get my money back (still am).  I took three classes with no support, no lecture, no real outline, and all the run around they could give me.  
It was a read the book take the test with no practicle references to the real world.
If you are looking to get your money back contact your attorney general.  If they do not give you money back for the classes you have not taken that is a theft of sevice.  With enough state run lawsuits going, you may not get all of your money back but it will create a large financial burden to them and close them down.

Great Program

DBA
Reviewer: Anonymous (Graduate) on December 28, 2008

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I started the PhD prorgram with KWU before the name change to WNU.  I had several problems in my personal life which kept me from completing the program in a timely manner.  I have read several of the negative comments about the program and really feel it's unfair to WNU.  Frist if you are in the teaching profession you must have a degree from an accredited college or university.  If you are using WNU for an advanced degree in corporate America WNU it is acceptable.  The school is in the process of getting accredited.  I hope everyone kept in mind that ALL colleges and Universities have to go through a process to become accredited at some point in time. 

Please contact WNU and talk to the people there before making a decision based on some of these comments.  I have two degrees from highly respected and accredited universities and I can honestly say that I worked harder for the WNU degree than I did for the first two degrees.   No one at WNU is going to give you a grade.   I am hoping and praying that the accredidation process will be over soon but regardless I decided to enroll in KWU and my employer paid 75% of my tutition.  The experience was a challenge and I am very proud of completing the program last week and will be adding D.B.A. to my resume and business cards.

Warren National University Unbiased Report

Safety Engineering
Reviewer: Anonymous (Graduate) on December 3, 2008

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Lets be sincere,Am a former graduate of this college.When you are enrolling, they tell you that they are licensed but not accredited, they are honest on that aspect. They waiver some college work and trade it with experience and you do about 21 credits for a Masters Degree.When you start,they overwork you and their thesis takes you about ten months.It undergoes; formatting, plagiarizing,and content process and finally copyrighting.By the end of it all you graduate and get an unaccredited Diploma. When reality sinks in, you feel bad. You did so much work and even more than some accredited colleges, then you feel cheated of time and money.The best way out is for the college to work hard for accreditation; then evaluate their alumina and let them complete the other credits to meet the requirement of 36 credits. By so doing all their half baked alumina will enroll and since the number is huge it could boost the college. And that would be fair to all and the noise will stop.

Pack of Lies!

Safety Engineering
Reviewer: Anonymous (Degree In Progress) on November 12, 2008

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This "University" only cares about taking your money. I dropped out of their program when I found out that their "degrees" were illegal to use in Texas. Before I found out about this and was taking the classes NO ONE ever contacted me to offer any help, guidance or ask how I was doing. Don't be fooled by the "good" reviews. These "students" are employed by WNU and write these false "good" reviews to try and sucker in new students. Don't believe them!

Tested and Good Program

Engineering:: Management
Reviewer: Anonymous (Graduate) on October 26, 2008

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Enrolled in the PhD program in engineering five years ago and finshed recently. Professors and materials were top-notch for this particular field of engineering. Exam were extremely difficult but fair, you really needed to know your both your bookwork and have some practical experience in your field of study to get a good grade. I found the access to the professors excellent. I think most students want to have it easy at this university. I can only say that if you work hard at the subject matter, follow the professor's instructions, and focus on the course work, you will learn the subject matter and graduate with a worthwhile degree.

School should be shut down by attorney genera

Healthcare Administration
Reviewer: Anonymous (Degree In Progress) on October 23, 2008

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This school has happily taken all of my money, and refuses to respond.  Their website is a smokescreen, their links, and voice mail a method of avoiding response and accountability for funds received.  My next action will be with the attorney general and the State of Wyoming board of Education, higher learning.  It is not an issue any more of credited or non-acredited, it is an issue of receiving funds and not delivering services as promised.

PhD

Business Administration
Reviewer: Anonymous (Graduate) on October 21, 2008

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My overall experience with Kennedy-Western (now Warren National) was positive. I felt the material was challenging as the exams were proctored. Writing my dissertation was harder than I anticipated, but I really enjoyed it. I have taken a lot of grief since graduating because they are not accredited. However, I know the work I put into the degree, regardless of what others make think of the program.

Great Program.

Business Administration
Reviewer: rod (Graduate) on October 18, 2008

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Great program. Finished in 2-years and was able to gain admission into graduate school with my WNU degree. The program is a challenge!

Just another scam…

MIS
Reviewer: Anonymous (Degree In Progress) on October 9, 2008

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I enrolled into 18 month program, paid tuition in full, passed all the exams with good grades, and started working on final paper… WNU cut my access to their web site for a long time, so I was unable to complete the program within 18 month. Now they penalize me: $500. In addition to this I have to pay $100 for every month I stay in a program.

Deceit Placed on an U. S. Veteran

Mechanical Engineering
Reviewer: hartford123 (Degree In Progress) on October 9, 2008

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As a veteran, I researched the school Kennedy Western.  I got all my financial aid and yes it was a paced program.  My problem is I never checked into class because I called the advisor at that time to inform them that I was going over seas and when I returned I would start my FIRST class.  When I returned the university changed its name to Warren University and dropped my degree program.  They also said they would no longer take my military schools because the program no longer existed.  I am still paying for classes that I have never attended and for ones that do not exist.  How can some take money when the student is not even completely in a class.  Someone help me.

Practical and challenging

Business Administration
Reviewer: Anonymous (Degree In Progress) on October 8, 2008

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I am in the middle of a business administration degree now. The time table keep me accountable.  The material is tested in an a fair appropriate manner.  I am satisfied as a mid career professional that I am getting what I paid for.

Not accredited, won't refund, won't let me finish

MBA
Reviewer: othellofree2 (Degree In Progress) on October 7, 2008

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I couple of years ago I wanted to finish my degree. I spoke with several people at Kennedy Western University who assisted me with enrollment and lead me to believe that they were an accredited college. They even advised me that most employers would refund tuition because they were recongnized as a higher institute of learning. Their website even indicated they were accredited at the time I signed up. NO longer states that. 

My mother became ill shortly after my enrollment. Her illness progressed and she passed away. I contacted the admissions office and explained my situation. They advised me that I would become inactive and once I was ready to complete my studies they would reactivate my status. Since that time the school changed their name and their programs. I was never notified by the school about this change until I attempted to log on to my student website. Since then I've even learned that my program is no longer being offerred and will not be supported after January 2009.

I called the school several weeks ago and requested my status be reinstated (since I never withdrew from the school and tuition $7500 was paid in full via Sallie Mae Student Loan). I was referred to a 'resolution committee coordinator' who advised me that my program had changed and would no longer be available as of January 2009 (6 months from now). She then stated she would refer me to another counselor who would be getting in touch with me in 2-4 weeks for reinstation purposes. I never heard back so I began emailing and calling. Several phones calls to 'voicemails' were made and no return calls. Several emails sent with no response. This went on for several weeks. I finally reached someone in the front office who advised me that the person I was referred to no longer worked for the school so I was referred back to the original coordinator.

Mislead, Bogus and UNETHICAL!

Bachelor of Science
Reviewer: jpcc (Degree In Progress) on July 4, 2008

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I enrolled in the school when it was Kennedy-Western University (prior to the name change). My mother became ill shortley after enrolling. I contacted the school and they advised me that this was a self-pace school so I could reactivate my inactive status at any time. Recently I tried to do that. I emailed Martha Pollock (personally I don't think this person truly exists) because you can not speak to a live individual (other then the receptionist). After many emails and several calls, I received a response from this individual.. verbatim from her email: "We are not currently enrolling (re-activating inactive) students. As it is the University’s first responsibility to support our current students, we are focusing all of our efforts, energy and resources to support our current active students." I too paid $7500 through a Sallie Mae loan which I'm currently paying for. According to Ms. Pollock I'm not entitled to a refund nor am I entitled to finish my program. Although, originally I was informed they were accredited and later I find out they were not, I was still willing to finish my education through this institution. However, I've been told that wasn't going to happen. Like others, I kept all of my correspondence and would be more then happy to join a class action suit against Warren National since I'm not the only person they took for a ride. Feel free to go in "rip off reports.com" there are many more complaints there like mine.

An Accepted Degree In WA State

Healthcare Administration
Reviewer: Anonymous (Graduate) on June 21, 2008

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I am a graduate from KWU and I do work for the Government in Washington State.  When all of this controversy over accreditation became of focus, my education was closely reviewed and it was determined that KWU aka Warren National did meet the Washington State requirements and I could continue to use it and my credentials for advancement.  As a whole I found the school to be quite challenging.  The Thesis I wrote has been used by several of the management staff to assist them in their business processes.  Others that I work with who graduated from Washington State University with a Masters, did not have the requirement of writing a thesis and their projects at work clearly indicate the lack of structure and appropriate citations.  KWU has given me what I needed to succeed.

Very Disappointing

Safety Engineering
Reviewer: Anonymous (Degree In Progress) on April 30, 2008

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I just finished reading over the other commits and some of them made me sick. The commits praising WNU were very obvious to me that they were made up by someone from the university. I just became aware that the degree that I was seeking from Warren National University valid in Texas and if I try to use it in Texas it is against the law and I could go to jail if I tried to use it.  No one at this university ever told me that I could not use their degree in Texas.  I sent this information to the Bob Patterson (COO) and Martha Pollock (Student Advisor) and asked for a full refund.  I have sent several emails and called several times (all calls go to voice mail) but they have not responded to either. I paid over $6,000.00 dollars to this university that I thought would receive a degree from them, but it looks like now that I was deceived by them.  They knew from the start that I lived in Texas but never told me that a degree from WNU would be illegal to use in Texas.

Warren National is a scam

Electrical Engineering
Reviewer: ted (Degree In Progress) on March 31, 2008

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I had to postpone working toward my degree because my daughter was diagnosed with Autism and we could not afford her therapy and school at the same time.  They would not refund my tuition.  I have saved every item of correspondence from Warren National/Kennedy Western and am looking to file suit against them. At this point I am out close to $8000 because I elected to get the discount for paying up front.  It sounds like I am not the only person that got scammed by these guys.

Accepted to Grad School

Bachelor of Science
Reviewer: Anonymous (Graduate) on March 27, 2008

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This was a very good finance program, with the best choice of content and text of any undergraduate finance program.  The learning format allows older, experienced professionals to formalize and delve deeper into their own careers and industries.  Not the greatest school choice, but it was great for me personally.  I am now in a graduate school MBA program (at a world table ranked institution)

Had to do some explaining about the unaccredited status and present compelling points why this was a true degree, to gain acceptance into the MBA program. It worked.

A degree, is a piece of paper, often times. the minimum qualification for an entry-level job.  These days, employers favor experience over having just a degree with minimal relevant experience.  Why do so many young recent college graduates who did not come out of the IVY league or its equivalent not earn high incomes in comparison to those without degrees? One's performance and ability to enhance his/her skills and value to an organization determines an individual's progression in their careers.  

Your life and career is what you make of it, don't let naysayers control your destiny.  Undergrad and graduate degrees are not the only credentials on the planet.  Have a open mindset and go out to acquire what you need to become better.  When playing a chess/checkers game, one needs all the pieces to even begin.  Who said that a BS/BA and and MBA/MS were the only pieces and the only combination allowed?

Poor, very poor

Business Administration
Reviewer: Anonymous (Degree In Progress) on March 7, 2008

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Nothing but a scam! Don't do it! Try calling the main phone number and you'll quickly find that no one even answers it! Leave a message, no one return it unless you are a potential student! The open book test were horrible, too! Wasted too much time and money with these people.

They stole my money

MBA
Reviewer: jarpand (Degree In Progress) on February 7, 2008

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Please please please do not enroll at Warren National University. I had terrible experience right from day one from the enrollment until I started the first course. I gave benefit of doubt when I had sour experience with their student counselor. 

I decided to withdraw in the first four weeks and sent a request to reimburse 50% of the fee I paid. They said they will send response in 2 weeks. I made several follow ups and now it is almost 5 months and there is no response. I don't know how to get my money back.

Their admin, faculty, supervisor are not professional. I am very disappointed with their response. The reason I wanted to withdraw was that they had their previous university KWU information on student’s portal. Most of the information they had on the students section were outdated and not relevant to the course I selected. It did not motivate me to continue further.

It is not a professional setting. We are burning our money. There are quite a few other universities out there with high quality student service and curriculum structure at less price compared to Warren. Please do good homework before you sign up. Don't repent after the fact like me - I lost $3000.

Don't Do It

Business Administration
Reviewer: Anonymous (Graduate) on January 25, 2008

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If you are ever going to need this degree, don't go here.  NO companies accept WNU no matter what the salesperson tells you.  This was a big mistake and waste of my time and money.  I now have to attend an accredited school and retake and repay for what I spent the last two years doing.  Don't make my mistake.

Warren National University AKA Kennedy Western Uni

MIS
Reviewer: Anonymous (Degree In Progress) on January 5, 2008

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This school is BOGUS, they focus on old technology, like Novell 4.0 are you kidding me as part of my 400 level class. The books required are out dated, website is confusing and hard to find important stuff. The tests looks like they got them from a certification format. The books selected for an MIS program are huge in size a lot of information for an open book test. If you taken open book tests, you find that, they are the hardest for anybody to take. Tests are timed two hours normally, teachers? what teachers? haven't heard from one of them in the time that I have been enroll. This was my biggest mistake, should have thought about harder. After i've found out that the State of Oregon will not accept your diploma from this school, money waste it. What was weird is that, all of the sudden, they move their offices from California, a bit odd, don't you think?. I read some of the reviews post it here, I won't be surprise if it is their own stuff posting them.

Worthless - Potential employers won't consider me

Bachelor of Science
Reviewer: piercej15 (Graduate) on January 4, 2008

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Don't believe the testimonials, this degree is not accepted in most places.  They have a list of hundreds of companies that "have evaluated our program...". I'm very skeptical of that claim.  These companies probably paid money in tuition reimbursement for a course, but did they write a glowing review of Kennedy-Western /  Warren National?  Highly doubtful.  Yes, they told me it was unaccredited when I signed up, but all these businesses go there, so it should be legit, right? 

What good is a healthcare administration degree that doesn't qualify you for a healthcare administration position?

Starting over.  :-(

PhD Engineering Management

Engineering:: Management
Reviewer: matt.mhughes (Graduate) on January 1, 2008

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I really enjoyed this degree.  All of the textbooks for the nine courses that I took were contemporary, substantive, and challenging.  My thesis was reviewed 6 times before it was finally accepted.  The process was rigorous and demanding.

In 2006, waived more than half a doctorate

DBA
Reviewer: Anonymous (Degree In Progress) on December 14, 2007

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In Mid-2006 I applied to this college for my doctorate.  I have been out of school for awhile and have been watching online programs for a few years, as it is my only avenue to go back to school.  This school was prominently featured on ClassUSA.com, which I thought to be a reputable service.

The student services person asked quite a few questions about my background.  Due to my professional license, I have requirements for continuing education each year and was told that would suffice to take care of some course requirements.

End result is that at the end of the initial call with a student services representative, I was presented with a "degree plan" that said I only needed 5 courses (of my choosing) for my doctorate, and could be done in about 18 months.

Keep in mind, this isn't a doctoral review committee or faculty assessment, this is one enrollment office person making this decision.

Obviously, there were red flags everywhere, and further investigation on my part showed how little rigor this college provides, and the many negatives articles about people getting caught with this "degree".

Also, their "dissertations" are not cataloged, which is one of the biggest red flags for a doctoral program.  I assume "dissertation" here = some minor research paper.

They've since changed their name to Warren National University.  The "new" University has contacted me multiple times (same employees), but I am driven by interest in learning and getting a quick, easy, unaccredited, partial degree is of no value to me.

Shame on ClassesUSA for not screening them out initially, but I do see today, that they are no longer listed.

Human Resources Professional

Bachelor of Science
Reviewer: sandra.hook (Graduate) on December 12, 2007

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I work at a local community college and hear so many negatives about professors never showing up for class, ridiculous papers that require no time or research.  My research paper was 89 pages and was sent back twice for changes. I worked very hard and was very proud when it was finally approved. I have attended many seminars, classes, etc over the years and I really had to work for this degree.
I hope Warren National does get accreditation.

Very sub-standard, invalid for engineers

BSME
Reviewer: Anonymous (Graduate) on November 17, 2007

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Kennedy-Western University is of no value.  It won't qualify you to upgrade professional engineering certifications, you'll be turned down.

Kennedy Western University AKA Warren National University is definitely going to get you a top notch education. IN LIFE EXPERIENCE!  When you graduate from KW you will have learned that for slightly more effort you could have gotten an accredited university degree.

You get out of it what you put into it.

MBA
Reviewer: Anonymous (Degree In Progress) on November 9, 2007

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I am in the process of working toward a Ph.D. at WNU. It seems to provide a solid curriculum. As for the quality, you get out of it what you put into it. That is with any school. I've attended two very prestigious schools that are accredited and the same held true there.

Great asynchronus experience!

Bachelor of Science
Reviewer: Anonymous (Graduate) on October 19, 2007

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Enjoyed my experience.
Glad to have a chance to work asynchronously, very helpful and wish "accredited" institutions would get their act together for asynchronous education.
It's so stupid people calling this a diploma mill.
Education is what you make of it.
Life experience credits are given at accredited universities and pardon me but aren't doctorates awarded for life experience by "accredited" institutions?
If you're a mid-career professional this is a great place to get your degree.
If you want to teach in a university or work for the government you can't use an unaccredited degree.
WNU applies to the mid-career professional and it has helped me.

Still a diploma mill, trying to shed KWU

DBA
Reviewer: Anonymous (Degree In Progress) on October 8, 2007

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KWU with lipstick on it.  Still a diploma mill IMHO, and you cant use the degree in many states, as it's illegal. 

Finally, the states are assisting this effort by making it illegal to use a diplomam mill degree on a resume or for business credentials.

Not acceptable to any graduate school

Bachelor of Science
Reviewer: Anonymous (Degree In Progress) on October 3, 2007

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Unaccredited.  Unable to qualify for any graduate school with this degree.  Rated as a value based on the large amount of classes they grant for "life experience".  Decent materials.  Can't recommend though.

Warren National University MBA Program

MBA
Reviewer: hjohn88 (Degree In Progress) on October 1, 2007

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Warren National University offers credit to your work experience and allows you to complete the program in less time. They assisted me to take appropriate courses and set a plan to reach academic success. This is a great start, great program, great university for working personal. The courses help me to learn and apply them at work. I recommend this university for busy working professionals who wants to further enhance their skills to take complete control of their career.

Great Degree

DBA
Reviewer: wsurrey (Graduate) on September 13, 2007

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Completed my DBA last April and immediately benefited from it through a promotion in July.   My company paid for all the tuition and books and they've already earned their money back from their investment by what I've done from what I learned from my classes at Warren National University. 

Like anything else, a piece of paper is only good for what you do with it.

Masters Program

MIS
Reviewer: roger.jones (Degree In Progress) on September 11, 2007

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This question is for the individual who graduated from WNU and is now working on his masters from an accredited institution. What institution has accepted your degree and would you happen to know of others. I agree that the course work at WNU is challenging but would care to acquire my masters from am accredited university that will accept my degree. Thanks.

Unaccredited, invalid for my employment /higher ed

DBA
Reviewer: Anonymous (Degree In Progress) on September 6, 2007

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I applied to the DBA (Doctor of Business Administration) so that I would be able to move from my current corporate employment to teaching at a local community college part time, then eventually full time.

The intake call was very helpful and I spoke to admissions on several occasions via phone and email.  They said that their University has never been accredited, but held some type of state business license, which sounded fine to me. 

However, I later found out that for the community college employment, this degree would not qualify me to teach at a University.  

It also does not meet my employers requirements for tuition reimbursement.  It also did not meet my employers requirement to be used as a credential for advancement and would not be considered in any hiring decisions.

I am currently looking into Nova Southeastern, Northcentral University, and Walden University, which are also completely online and meet the requirements of the community college and my employer.

Excellent Program!!!

Business Administration
Reviewer: Anonymous (Degree In Progress) on September 5, 2007

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I attended Warren National and graduated with Bachelors of Science in Business Administration. 

I can say that I was not disappointed. It was certainly challenging. The coursework was demanding and also fit into my lifestyle of work-life-balance.  

The online instructors were from some of the best, as they were receptive to student questions and responded in timely fashion. The material was in the form of textbooks. There were online tutorials and practice examinations. There are also presentations from professors and coursework assignments. There was also a virtual student union where you could connect with other students. 

The University also has some of the finest technology around for the on-line based school.  The school has Blackboard, Jone e-global library, Virtual Bookstore and Interactive Online Chat Sessions.

I can say with confidence that my degree at Warren National has enhanced my career.

Excellant Institution

MIS
Reviewer: dagunny (Graduate) on August 29, 2007

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WNU offers REAL degrees for those professionals that never had the chance to go to college.

WNU provides REAL instruction and education using new and innovative meathods outside the traditional "brick and mortar" educational institutions.

Anyone that wants an education, I highly recommend this institution!

Warren National is a the real deal

Electrical Engineering
Reviewer: Piercetp3840 (Graduate) on August 17, 2007

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I attended Warren National when it was Kennedy-Western. I graduated with a Bachelors in Electrical Engineering. This was recommended by my employer who reviewed the institution before I applied. 

I can say that I was not disappointed. It was certainly challenging. In fact it was harder than any place I attended before. I had a bachelors from another school, where I studied IT. But this was extremly tough. The material was hard, but help was always available. The program required a considerable time committment. After ten classes and a difficult (bur interesting and rewarding) final project I graduated. This took about two years.

The online instructors were from some of the finest Universities in the United States; Stanford, UCLA, etc. The material was in the form of textbooks. There were online tutorials and practice examinations. There was also an online discussion board where you could connect with other students.

I can say with confidence that my degree and Kennedy-Western (now Warren National) has enhanced my career.

Safety Engineering

Safety Engineering
Reviewer: Anonymous (Degree In Progress) on August 2, 2007

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The course work was typical of any University, doing the research and writing your final project was the most challenging for me.  You have to make the initiative to conduct your research. This is an unacredited University with excellent faculty.  KWU is not a diploma mill.

Unusable, unaccredited waste of time

MBA
Reviewer: Anonymous (Graduate) on July 30, 2007

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The Good:  
1.	Kennedy Western / Warren National waived a large amount of my undergraduate requirements.
2.	With so many credits waived, the cost to complete a bachelors was fairy competitive.
3.	Easy, not very challenging “courses”, which are really open book exams that you can fly through with little or no preparation.

The Bad
1.	Unaccredited.
2.	I’ve been unable to find any regionally accredited MBA program to accept my degree.  In a couple cases, I could take a year or two of courses on top of my degree to become eligible for the MBA program.
3.	Many employers will not accept it as a valid degree.  There are some small companies that don’t check, but it has locked me into my current job.  I’m fearful of applying for promotions within my own company as I don’t want any more scrutiny on what I now know to be a dubious degree.

Don’t be taken in by their aggressive sales people and slick marketing materials.  They are unaccredited (but will sell you their irrelevant state license status) and if you are looking for an online option, there are many many legitimate schools out there.

Warren National University

MBA
Reviewer: Anonymous (Graduate) on July 27, 2007

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I am a graduate from Kennedy-Western University and am now enrolled in an MBA program with a regionally accredited university. I do not regret pursuing the education I received from KWU. I am happy to hear they are now going for accreditation. By the way, Oxford University hasn't always been accredited, but that doesn't make it a substandard college. 

I have attended 4 universities - 3 were fully accredited. I worked just as hard through KWU (especially on my final project) as I did at the other universities. Accreditation can make a difference if an institution is lacking in specific areas. Other than KWU not offering study groups and classroom interaction, there was no difference between the level of education I received. In other words, the accredited universities do offer study notes, powerpoint presentations, and chapter summaries.  These types of things have never helped me. I simply have to read the textbook on my own. That's no different from KWU.

The New Kennedy Western, still a scam

MBA
Reviewer: Anonymous (Degree In Progress) on February 7, 2007

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I took one class with the Warren National University, before discovering it was the Old Kennedy Western University of Senate Hearing fame with a new coat of paint.  Still unaccredited.  Just a buyer-beware review.

GAO report on Diploma mills
http://hsgac.senate.gov/_files/051104cramer8490.pdf


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