Warren National University Reviews

Mislead, Bogus and UNETHICAL!

By: jpcc (In Progress) on July 4, 2008

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I enrolled in the school when it was Kennedy-Western University (prior to the name change). My mother became ill shortley after enrolling. I contacted the school and they advised me that this was a self-pace school so I could reactivate my inactive status at any time. Recently I tried to do that. I emailed Martha Pollock (personally I don't think this person truly exists) because you can not speak to a live individual (other then the receptionist). After many emails and several calls, I received a response from this individual.. verbatim from her email: "We are not currently enrolling (re-activating inactive) students. As it is the University’s first responsibility to support our current students, we are focusing all of our efforts, energy and resources to support our current active students." I too paid $7500 through a Sallie Mae loan which I'm currently paying for. According to Ms. Pollock I'm not entitled to a refund nor am I entitled to finish my program. Although, originally I was informed they were accredited and later I find out they were not, I was still willing to finish my education through this institution. However, I've been told that wasn't going to happen. Like others, I kept all of my correspondence and would be more then happy to join a class action suit against Warren National since I'm not the only person they took for a ride. Feel free to go in "rip off reports.com" there are many more complaints there like mine.

An Accepted Degree In WA State

By: Anonymous (Graduate) on June 21, 2008

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I am a graduate from KWU and I do work for the Government in Washington State.  When all of this controversy over accreditation became of focus, my education was closely reviewed and it was determined that KWU aka Warren National did meet the Washington State requirements and I could continue to use it and my credentials for advancement.  As a whole I found the school to be quite challenging.  The Thesis I wrote has been used by several of the management staff to assist them in their business processes.  Others that I work with who graduated from Washington State University with a Masters, did not have the requirement of writing a thesis and their projects at work clearly indicate the lack of structure and appropriate citations.  KWU has given me what I needed to succeed.

Very Disappointing

By: Anonymous (In Progress) on April 30, 2008

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I just finished reading over the other commits and some of them made me sick. The commits praising WNU were very obvious to me that they were made up by someone from the university. I just became aware that the degree that I was seeking from Warren National University valid in Texas and if I try to use it in Texas it is against the law and I could go to jail if I tried to use it.  No one at this university ever told me that I could not use their degree in Texas.  I sent this information to the Bob Patterson (COO) and Martha Pollock (Student Advisor) and asked for a full refund.  I have sent several emails and called several times (all calls go to voice mail) but they have not responded to either. I paid over $6,000.00 dollars to this university that I thought would receive a degree from them, but it looks like now that I was deceived by them.  They knew from the start that I lived in Texas but never told me that a degree from WNU would be illegal to use in Texas.

Warren National is a scam

By: ted (In Progress) on March 31, 2008

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I had to postpone working toward my degree because my daughter was diagnosed with Autism and we could not afford her therapy and school at the same time.  They would not refund my tuition.  I have saved every item of correspondence from Warren National/Kennedy Western and am looking to file suit against them. At this point I am out close to $8000 because I elected to get the discount for paying up front.  It sounds like I am not the only person that got scammed by these guys.

Accepted to Grad School

By: Anonymous (Graduate) on March 27, 2008

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This was a very good finance program, with the best choice of content and text of any undergraduate finance program.  The learning format allows older, experienced professionals to formalize and delve deeper into their own careers and industries.  Not the greatest school choice, but it was great for me personally.  I am now in a graduate school MBA program (at a world table ranked institution)

Had to do some explaining about the unaccredited status and present compelling points why this was a true degree, to gain acceptance into the MBA program. It worked.

A degree, is a piece of paper, often times. the minimum qualification for an entry-level job.  These days, employers favor experience over having just a degree with minimal relevant experience.  Why do so many young recent college graduates who did not come out of the IVY league or its equivalent not earn high incomes in comparison to those without degrees? One's performance and ability to enhance his/her skills and value to an organization determines an individual's progression in their careers.  

Your life and career is what you make of it, don't let naysayers control your destiny.  Undergrad and graduate degrees are not the only credentials on the planet.  Have a open mindset and go out to acquire what you need to become better.  When playing a chess/checkers game, one needs all the pieces to even begin.  Who said that a BS/BA and and MBA/MS were the only pieces and the only combination allowed?

Poor, very poor

By: Anonymous (In Progress) on March 7, 2008

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Nothing but a scam! Don't do it! Try calling the main phone number and you'll quickly find that no one even answers it! Leave a message, no one return it unless you are a potential student! The open book test were horrible, too! Wasted too much time and money with these people.

They stole my money

By: jarpand (In Progress) on February 7, 2008

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Please please please do not enroll at Warren National University. I had terrible experience right from day one from the enrollment until I started the first course. I gave benefit of doubt when I had sour experience with their student counselor. 

I decided to withdraw in the first four weeks and sent a request to reimburse 50% of the fee I paid. They said they will send response in 2 weeks. I made several follow ups and now it is almost 5 months and there is no response. I don't know how to get my money back.

Their admin, faculty, supervisor are not professional. I am very disappointed with their response. The reason I wanted to withdraw was that they had their previous university KWU information on student’s portal. Most of the information they had on the students section were outdated and not relevant to the course I selected. It did not motivate me to continue further.

It is not a professional setting. We are burning our money. There are quite a few other universities out there with high quality student service and curriculum structure at less price compared to Warren. Please do good homework before you sign up. Don't repent after the fact like me - I lost $3000.

Don't Do It

By: Anonymous (Graduate) on January 25, 2008

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If you are ever going to need this degree, don't go here.  NO companies accept WNU no matter what the salesperson tells you.  This was a big mistake and waste of my time and money.  I now have to attend an accredited school and retake and repay for what I spent the last two years doing.  Don't make my mistake.

Warren National University AKA Kennedy Western Uni

By: Anonymous (In Progress) on January 5, 2008

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This school is BOGUS, they focus on old technology, like Novell 4.0 are you kidding me as part of my 400 level class. The books required are out dated, website is confusing and hard to find important stuff. The tests looks like they got them from a certification format. The books selected for an MIS program are huge in size a lot of information for an open book test. If you taken open book tests, you find that, they are the hardest for anybody to take. Tests are timed two hours normally, teachers? what teachers? haven't heard from one of them in the time that I have been enroll. This was my biggest mistake, should have thought about harder. After i've found out that the State of Oregon will not accept your diploma from this school, money waste it. What was weird is that, all of the sudden, they move their offices from California, a bit odd, don't you think?. I read some of the reviews post it here, I won't be surprise if it is their own stuff posting them.

Worthless - Potential employers won't consider me

By: piercej15 (Graduate) on January 4, 2008

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Don't believe the testimonials, this degree is not accepted in most places.  They have a list of hundreds of companies that "have evaluated our program...". I'm very skeptical of that claim.  These companies probably paid money in tuition reimbursement for a course, but did they write a glowing review of Kennedy-Western /  Warren National?  Highly doubtful.  Yes, they told me it was unaccredited when I signed up, but all these businesses go there, so it should be legit, right? 

What good is a healthcare administration degree that doesn't qualify you for a healthcare administration position?

Starting over.  :-(

PhD Engineering Management

By: matt.mhughes (Graduate) on January 1, 2008

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I really enjoyed this degree.  All of the textbooks for the nine courses that I took were contemporary, substantive, and challenging.  My thesis was reviewed 6 times before it was finally accepted.  The process was rigorous and demanding.

In 2006, waived more than half a doctorate

By: Anonymous (In Progress) on December 14, 2007

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In Mid-2006 I applied to this college for my doctorate.  I have been out of school for awhile and have been watching online programs for a few years, as it is my only avenue to go back to school.  This school was prominently featured on ClassUSA.com, which I thought to be a reputable service.

The student services person asked quite a few questions about my background.  Due to my professional license, I have requirements for continuing education each year and was told that would suffice to take care of some course requirements.

End result is that at the end of the initial call with a student services representative, I was presented with a "degree plan" that said I only needed 5 courses (of my choosing) for my doctorate, and could be done in about 18 months.

Keep in mind, this isn't a doctoral review committee or faculty assessment, this is one enrollment office person making this decision.

Obviously, there were red flags everywhere, and further investigation on my part showed how little rigor this college provides, and the many negatives articles about people getting caught with this "degree".

Also, their "dissertations" are not cataloged, which is one of the biggest red flags for a doctoral program.  I assume "dissertation" here = some minor research paper.

They've since changed their name to Warren National University.  The "new" University has contacted me multiple times (same employees), but I am driven by interest in learning and getting a quick, easy, unaccredited, partial degree is of no value to me.

Shame on ClassesUSA for not screening them out initially, but I do see today, that they are no longer listed.

Human Resources Professional

By: sandra.hook (Graduate) on December 12, 2007

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I work at a local community college and hear so many negatives about professors never showing up for class, ridiculous papers that require no time or research.  My research paper was 89 pages and was sent back twice for changes. I worked very hard and was very proud when it was finally approved. I have attended many seminars, classes, etc over the years and I really had to work for this degree.
I hope Warren National does get accreditation.

Very sub-standard, invalid for engineers

By: Anonymous (Graduate) on November 17, 2007

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Kennedy-Western University is of no value.  It won't qualify you to upgrade professional engineering certifications, you'll be turned down.

Kennedy Western University AKA Warren National University is definitely going to get you a top notch education. IN LIFE EXPERIENCE!  When you graduate from KW you will have learned that for slightly more effort you could have gotten an accredited university degree.

You get out of it what you put into it.

By: Anonymous (In Progress) on November 9, 2007

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I am in the process of working toward a Ph.D. at WNU. It seems to provide a solid curriculum. As for the quality, you get out of it what you put into it. That is with any school. I've attended two very prestigious schools that are accredited and the same held true there.

Great asynchronus experience!

By: Anonymous (Graduate) on October 19, 2007

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Enjoyed my experience.
Glad to have a chance to work asynchronously, very helpful and wish "accredited" institutions would get their act together for asynchronous education.
It's so stupid people calling this a diploma mill.
Education is what you make of it.
Life experience credits are given at accredited universities and pardon me but aren't doctorates awarded for life experience by "accredited" institutions?
If you're a mid-career professional this is a great place to get your degree.
If you want to teach in a university or work for the government you can't use an unaccredited degree.
WNU applies to the mid-career professional and it has helped me.

Still a diploma mill, trying to shed KWU

By: Anonymous (In Progress) on October 8, 2007

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KWU with lipstick on it.  Still a diploma mill IMHO, and you cant use the degree in many states, as it's illegal. 

Finally, the states are assisting this effort by making it illegal to use a diplomam mill degree on a resume or for business credentials.

Not acceptable to any graduate school

By: Anonymous (In Progress) on October 3, 2007

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Unaccredited.  Unable to qualify for any graduate school with this degree.  Rated as a value based on the large amount of classes they grant for "life experience".  Decent materials.  Can't recommend though.

Warren National University MBA Program

By: hjohn88 (In Progress) on October 1, 2007

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Warren National University offers credit to your work experience and allows you to complete the program in less time. They assisted me to take appropriate courses and set a plan to reach academic success. This is a great start, great program, great university for working personal. The courses help me to learn and apply them at work. I recommend this university for busy working professionals who wants to further enhance their skills to take complete control of their career.

Great Degree

By: wsurrey (Graduate) on September 13, 2007

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Completed my DBA last April and immediately benefited from it through a promotion in July.   My company paid for all the tuition and books and they've already earned their money back from their investment by what I've done from what I learned from my classes at Warren National University. 

Like anything else, a piece of paper is only good for what you do with it.

Masters Program

By: roger.jones (In Progress) on September 11, 2007

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This question is for the individual who graduated from WNU and is now working on his masters from an accredited institution. What institution has accepted your degree and would you happen to know of others. I agree that the course work at WNU is challenging but would care to acquire my masters from am accredited university that will accept my degree. Thanks.

Unaccredited, invalid for my employment /higher ed

By: Anonymous (In Progress) on September 6, 2007

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I applied to the DBA (Doctor of Business Administration) so that I would be able to move from my current corporate employment to teaching at a local community college part time, then eventually full time.

The intake call was very helpful and I spoke to admissions on several occasions via phone and email.  They said that their University has never been accredited, but held some type of state business license, which sounded fine to me. 

However, I later found out that for the community college employment, this degree would not qualify me to teach at a University.  

It also does not meet my employers requirements for tuition reimbursement.  It also did not meet my employers requirement to be used as a credential for advancement and would not be considered in any hiring decisions.

I am currently looking into Nova Southeastern, Northcentral University, and Walden University, which are also completely online and meet the requirements of the community college and my employer.

Excellent Program!!!

By: Anonymous (In Progress) on September 5, 2007

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I attended Warren National and graduated with Bachelors of Science in Business Administration. 

I can say that I was not disappointed. It was certainly challenging. The coursework was demanding and also fit into my lifestyle of work-life-balance.  

The online instructors were from some of the best, as they were receptive to student questions and responded in timely fashion. The material was in the form of textbooks. There were online tutorials and practice examinations. There are also presentations from professors and coursework assignments. There was also a virtual student union where you could connect with other students. 

The University also has some of the finest technology around for the on-line based school.  The school has Blackboard, Jone e-global library, Virtual Bookstore and Interactive Online Chat Sessions.

I can say with confidence that my degree at Warren National has enhanced my career.

Excellant Institution

By: dagunny (Graduate) on August 29, 2007

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WNU offers REAL degrees for those professionals that never had the chance to go to college.

WNU provides REAL instruction and education using new and innovative meathods outside the traditional "brick and mortar" educational institutions.

Anyone that wants an education, I highly recommend this institution!

Warren National is a the real deal

By: Piercetp3840 (Graduate) on August 17, 2007

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I attended Warren National when it was Kennedy-Western. I graduated with a Bachelors in Electrical Engineering. This was recommended by my employer who reviewed the institution before I applied. 

I can say that I was not disappointed. It was certainly challenging. In fact it was harder than any place I attended before. I had a bachelors from another school, where I studied IT. But this was extremly tough. The material was hard, but help was always available. The program required a considerable time committment. After ten classes and a difficult (bur interesting and rewarding) final project I graduated. This took about two years.

The online instructors were from some of the finest Universities in the United States; Stanford, UCLA, etc. The material was in the form of textbooks. There were online tutorials and practice examinations. There was also an online discussion board where you could connect with other students.

I can say with confidence that my degree and Kennedy-Western (now Warren National) has enhanced my career.

Safety Engineering

By: Anonymous (In Progress) on August 2, 2007

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The course work was typical of any University, doing the research and writing your final project was the most challenging for me.  You have to make the initiative to conduct your research. This is an unacredited University with excellent faculty.  KWU is not a diploma mill.

Unusable, unaccredited waste of time

By: Anonymous (Graduate) on July 30, 2007

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The Good:  
1.	Kennedy Western / Warren National waived a large amount of my undergraduate requirements.
2.	With so many credits waived, the cost to complete a bachelors was fairy competitive.
3.	Easy, not very challenging “courses”, which are really open book exams that you can fly through with little or no preparation.

The Bad
1.	Unaccredited.
2.	I’ve been unable to find any regionally accredited MBA program to accept my degree.  In a couple cases, I could take a year or two of courses on top of my degree to become eligible for the MBA program.
3.	Many employers will not accept it as a valid degree.  There are some small companies that don’t check, but it has locked me into my current job.  I’m fearful of applying for promotions within my own company as I don’t want any more scrutiny on what I now know to be a dubious degree.

Don’t be taken in by their aggressive sales people and slick marketing materials.  They are unaccredited (but will sell you their irrelevant state license status) and if you are looking for an online option, there are many many legitimate schools out there.

Warren National University

By: Anonymous (Graduate) on July 27, 2007

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I am a graduate from Kennedy-Western University and am now enrolled in an MBA program with a regionally accredited university. I do not regret pursuing the education I received from KWU. I am happy to hear they are now going for accreditation. By the way, Oxford University hasn't always been accredited, but that doesn't make it a substandard college. 

I have attended 4 universities - 3 were fully accredited. I worked just as hard through KWU (especially on my final project) as I did at the other universities. Accreditation can make a difference if an institution is lacking in specific areas. Other than KWU not offering study groups and classroom interaction, there was no difference between the level of education I received. In other words, the accredited universities do offer study notes, powerpoint presentations, and chapter summaries.  These types of things have never helped me. I simply have to read the textbook on my own. That's no different from KWU.

The New Kennedy Western, still a scam

By: Anonymous (In Progress) on February 7, 2007

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I took one class with the Warren National University, before discovering it was the Old Kennedy Western University of Senate Hearing fame with a new coat of paint.  Still unaccredited.  Just a buyer-beware review.

GAO report on Diploma mills
http://hsgac.senate.gov/_files/051104cramer8490.pdf


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