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No issues with DeVry
I generally don't understand when I see horrible reviews of DeVry. I guess everyone has their own situation. I have been an undergrad student at DeVry for the last 2 years. I am a former US Marine and current member of the Illinois National Guard. So maybe I have a different perspective. But I am a professional working adult who also has National Guard responsibilities. I simply do not have the time to go to a traditional school and sit down in a class room several times a week. I go to class online. I have most of my tuition paid for by the military, so I probably can't speak to some of the tuition issues people say they have experienced. That said, I have had zero issues with DeVry. I have had zero issues with student finance, academic advising, or any other department. Online learning is no-less of an education that anything else. I am so tired of hearing people bash DeVry and online learning and all of these other things. The bottom line is, if you put in the work, you will receive an education. I am not going to apologize to anyone or make excuses for my choice of schools. I picked a school that fits into my life. After I left active duty, that is when I decided to to go to college. At that point, I was 36 years old. Quitting my job or working part-time and sitting in a class room all day just wasn't feasible. You will get an education if you put the work in. I know many people who screwed around in college, a traditional college, and received their degree. They will tell you they partied and did just enough to graduate and didn't learn a whole lot. You can do the same thing at DeVry. You can do just enough to get your degree or you can do the work and get an education. I am getting an education. I have a 3.45 GPA and I am proud of that because I am putting in the work. I am sorry to the people who have had tuition problems. But to blindly advise people to run from DeVry because you had a problem is irresponsible. This is a quality school who is regionally accredited. This is not the University of Phoenix. Do the work, get educated, and go out in this world and succeed.
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Poor Customer Service
I have been a student in DeVry starting 2008; I was contacted and recruited by DeVry, while I was attending CCAC.
Before I joined DeVry I was accepted to CCAC and US Air Force Reserve with my High School Diploma from India, as well as in DeVry itself.
I Have a Cumulative Total of 69.00 Credits, 52 Hrs Completions and a GPA of 2.5085 from CCAC. Out of the 69 Credit from CCAC 43 Credits was transferred to DeVry towards my undergraduate work in DeVry.
As of March 27 2012 or present I have a total of 80 Credits with a GPA of 2.59 towards my undergraduate work.
Know DeVry put a hold on my Education. Claiming my High School Diploma does not meet the requirement of US High School Diploma.
So I end up requesting a Commonwealth Secondary School Diploma from PA Department of Education thru DeVry itself.
Because In Accordance with PA Department of Education regulation, 22 PA Code, Section 4.72 Credentials other than high School Diploma:
“ The Commonwealth Secondary School Diploma may be issued to an applicant who is a resident of this Commonwealth and does not possess a Secondary School Diploma upon presentation of evidence of full matriculation and the satisfactory completion of a minimum of 1 full year or 30 semester hours of study at an accredited institution of postsecondary education.”
Commonwealth of Pennsylvania Department of Education issued me the Diploma on 04/05/2012. My Issued Diploma no: 0965518
Then i submitted my Diploma to the Dean in DeVry at Pittsburgh site. Thy made a copy and faxed it to the DeVry ‘a main office in fort Washington (Olivia Martinez). And they are not accepting it.
(Frustrating part is DeVry staff is in Pittsburgh location where I am attending is alright but this registrar Olive is in Fort Washington is the one denying it as if she is holding a grudge, and there is no way to have a face-to-face conversation as she is in fort Washington and I am at Pittsburgh, this Olive person is rude and stubborn.)
DeVry is not taking hold out of my account and is denying my right to release my official transcript of Undergraduate Work. I have paid full fees to DeVry on my undergraduate work and I am in good standing. I cannot transfer to other school because DeVry has put a hold on my official Transcript.
I feel this is unethical on DeVry’s part as they are the one that recruited me out of CCAC; I was close to my completion on my associate in Accounting. DeVry explained to me it is better to go straight for undergraduate instead of wasting money and Time towards associate degree.
DeVry hold towards my education is greatly effecting my time towards my graduation and my school loan payments, as I would have to start paying my Loans, plus its effecting my promotions good standing/ awards/achievement with my Military career as well as my Civilian Job.
DeVry took money for all the classes; I took in DeVry, and it seems that all the time and credits I accumulated in DeVry will not be counted.
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Good, but not great. Expensive, but the investment paid off.
I graduated in 2007 with a BA in Business Administration. Later I went on to a prestigious University, and earned an AACSB Accredited MBA.
I graduated from high school in 2001 with honors and in the top ten percent of my class. I had applied to and had been accepted into a number of prestigious public and private university's. I was really excited, and couldn't wait to start my college experience. However, Life had other plans. Both of my parents passed away the summer after I graduated from high school. Instead of going off to college, I had to find a full time job, and later a second part time job to support myself. I was doing fine all on my own, staying out of trouble, and making ends meet, but I had to work 60 hours a week to make it happen. I still wanted to go to college, but due to my work schedule, a traditional university was out of the question. None of the local State university's were offering night or weekend classes at that time, and online college hadn't really taken off yet. (It was 2002). I could have attended a state university, but I would have had to give up my job. I could have taken a job at the University, but I would not have made enough to pay my rent.
I started looking for schools that offered more flexible class schedules, but for profits were all I could find. There were a few State University's that advertised night classes, but their idea of a night class was a class that started at 4:30 and ended at 7:30, and there were only a few classes offered during these times. I would have still had to do 90% of my program during the day.
Out of all the for-profit schools that I was able to find, Devry was the only school that was regionally accredited. I wasn't crazy about Devry, especially the high tuition, but it was accredited, and I really had no other choice.
My classes were challenging, and the professors were knowledgeable. I took all of my classes on campus. As a side note-When Devry had only classes on campus they were actually pretty good, but when they took them online, they were a joke. The on Campus library and other resources were comparable to and sometimes better than the local state university's.
I graduated, and found a job in my career field right away. I did not have this job before I graduated, but my work experience did give me an edge over the other college grads who had only unpaid internships on their resumes. My starting salary was $37,500 which was in line with what all new college grads with BSBA's were getting at that time. Two years later I was making $62,000, which is actually a little higher the average salary two years post grad. Currently my base salary is $87,670K per year. I did graduate with over 60K in student loan debt in comparison to my friends in state university's who graduated with less than 20K in debt, but the end result was what I was promised.
The problem with Devry, is their image and reputation. They aren't a diploma mill and they are accredited, but their degrees aren't taken seriously because they get lumped into the same category as Grantham, University of Phoenix, and ITT Tech. Really, the only difference between Devry and a traditional 4 year university is price, but the stink of other for profit colleges is what hurts their graduates the most.
I had actually not planned on getting an MBA, but I got to a point where I felt like I had to in order to legitimize my educational credibility in the eyes of others, I was going to need an advanced degree from a traditional university. I studied hard, scored a 680 on my GMAT, and was accepted into a selective AACSB accredited MBA program at a prestigious University. Devry is accredited, so my undergraduate credits did transfer. MBA programs, even at traditional colleges, almost always offer night and weekend classes, because everybody is a working adult. So, no problems there.
The school where I got my MBA is the school I tell people I graduated from. Its the only school I list on my resume and on my linkedin profile. If people ask me where I got my undergrad, I tell them, if they don't ask, I don't tell. Most of the time, my MBA is all that matters.
Bottom line-I am a very successful Devry graduate, but I'm not proud of it.
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Three Degrees
I just completed my third degree at DeVry/Keller. My first degree (1996) was an AS in ET and I had a job(s) waiting for me after graduation with help from Devry. The second degree (BS in Technical Management), I completed on 2009 in hopes of furthering my understanding of current management practices for my current job. My third degree (MBA Information Systems), I completed end of 2011 in hopes of getting a better position with my current employer. In all programs I ended up with very good GPA's. While DeVry/Keller is an expensive school, it is also a fast paced school designed to get you moving towards your next goal. While education is great, it does not provide for actual hands-on experience you would get if you were just given the opportunity. While DeVry is not perfect by any means (none of us are), it does provide the education of the tools it sells. Unfortunately, with the economy being what it is, there is no way any education system can promise a job when completed because they don't run the companies that are hiring. Education and careers will always be what you put into them. In the end, it's up to the individual to make it happen. This country has gotten so lazy that people now want someone else to get a job for them. Nothing is certain, but Jesus.
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RUN FAST!!!
The website, administration, classroom deliver is archaic, the technology is so bad, it's actually worse than the old school versions from the 90's.
It is severely inconvenient, very unfriendly for working adults. It's is a for profit school so they rip you off. A simple request takes days to weeks to complete and you have to jump through ten hoops.
If you want a transcript you have to call the school, wait for them to send you an email with instructions, fill out the form and then mail it. Any other school is one step.
If you want to access your account online, you can't get a simple web resolution, you have to call them when their open and request assistance.
The website is very difficult to navigate. The academics are sub par at best. They make you take a classes that can't be transferred such as a college intro course that is similar to high school, then they charge a good $3000 for a class that doesn't count towards a degree.
Please do not go to this school. It couldn't be a bigger waste of time and money.
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High priced education and a very disappointing service
I would not recommend this University for a higher education if it was free, much less the $60k plus that I am paying out of pocket to receive worse support, education and service than a community college where the degree expenses are 1/3 of the price DeVry charges. I am currently attending the San Antonio location. My experience here in just the first 2 months have been; the advisors cannot advise you beyond what you could read and find out for yourself, the teachers do not get back to you in a timely manner, everyone's schedule seems to be too busy to really address any of your issues, and if you don't stay on top of the staff the ball gets dropped and you are left with disappointment. Don't expect any kind of knowledgeable information, professional treatment, or superior service in comparison to a community college. A colleague is attending this same San Antonio location, on a fully paid tuition from the military and has decided to spend the money elsewhere because of the same experiences.
When I go to a $100 plus a plate restaurant i expect premium service, not the same type of service I might get at McDonalds, and to be honest...this is the only expectations DeVry has left me with..... High prices for poor quality service. Save your money and go to a more accredited college or university.
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Anonymous
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Decent School
I think overall you need to know what you’re getting. I went in knowing this was a for-profit school, and in the end I am in $40,000 in debt. I will be paying that off for 20 years, but was it worth it? In the end yes it was. I do have not enough free time to hit a campus and go to school, and this worked out for me. Will my resume be passed up compared to a person who went to a state college? For now, maybe. The key to DeVry is you need to get your foot in the door at an entry level job in your field. If you expect to get a good job after you graduate, you are in a load of trouble.
My academic advisors were always there for me, along with the financial aid department. People complain about getting bad student services, but for over 2 years I never experienced this. The teachers all work on a curriculum that was set up by the course architect, so all they do is grade, and answer questions. So overall the teachers were not the best, but then again I felt sometimes I really did have a teacher that was qualified, and sometimes I felt a teacher should not be working there.
Overall I say if you can afford the time to go to a physical campus, go to a community college for two years than transfer to a state or private school of your choice. I would not recommend this school for a physical campus. You can get cheaper and better education elsewhere. I do however recommend this school for online. If you simply do not have the time, go to this school.
How I made this money hungry school work for me:
I got a job in online lottery business, at entry level. My job paid for $10,000 of my school, and now doors are opening as we speak. The point is, I have put in over 2 years at my current job, and now my degree will be finished in February, and my company doesn’t care that my degree says DeVry on it, they care that I took the time to get my degree, and they know I have the experience. If I do for some reason get laid off or something worse, I now have the experience and a degree, and some outside resources to get another job. I cannot stress enough about you getting an entry level job in your field or something related before you enroll in this school. If you can land that, your degree will carry some weight, no matter what it says on it.
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Virgothepoet
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Pretty good school
I'll try to make this fairly easy to understand. First let me say I'm in my mid 20s, with 2 kids, and don't have the ability for "normal college." I didn't complete my Devry online degree, I stopped after half a year. The reason was not because of the school, it was because of the cost. I realized my 15 credits cost me over $9500. That is NOT an exaggeration. It was expensive and I knew I could find somewhere less expensive yet as educationally effective. My issue was there wasn't a major there I really wanted to do, so for me it felt like a waste of money. I just wanted a degree in something "suitable" but when I realized how much I was spending it just didn't seem worth $80 grand for a job I knew I wouldn't be totally satisfied with.
As for the school itself, I found my personal student adviser VERY helpful. Always called when she said she would and always gave me reassurance if I needed it. Always made sure she asked me how I was doing and how things were going, and giving me advice how to make things flow more easily.
As for my teachers, most of them were good. The thing about Devry classrooms is that its very group and forum oriented. You HAVE to talk in your classes forum at least a certain amount of times every week. Which is good because people ask questions and there's always a student in there who may know something you didn't. And the teacher is always in there answering questions. They do not avoid you or leave you hanging. If you tell them you need help, they help you or they find a student who already knows to assist you. Its nice because the forums for your class provide a lot of information and you can have discussions or debates on different things, and the more you do, the better your grade. Some of the teachers are far more hands on than others, out of my 5 (if I remember correctly) classes that I took, only one teacher grinded my nerves, but they were still efficient in their teaching. Most of my teachers were very nice and outgoing though.
As for what I learned, I learned what I needed to. They tell you what your assignment it, what you need to do, what you need to do it, and where you can find it. They pretty much give you all the information you need, you just have to take the initiate to read. And yes...there is quite a bit of reading. Obviously, not everything is easy! I mean it wouldn't be school if it was all simple stuff you already knew. There were courses I flew through with A's. And one (my business class) I made a C in...it was just for me to remember all the details there were...especially since I am not interested in business classes to begin with. But the teacher did know what he was talking about, without a doubt! And the materials you need are always readily available...so you never have to be without your books.
The only thing that I am not the most fond of, besides the cost, was the group work. I am a bit of a perfectionist, and prefer to do things myself. I don't like working in groups because I hate relying on some other persons work, especially since I feel I could have done it better(in most subjects anyways). So I have a tendency to feel disappointed in the people I work with because sometimes they don't want to take your advice on their share...which is fair enough, its their share. However, its a group effort. I've paid the price for this though because group projects are graded not only partially on your own work but also on GROUP WORK. So if someone else does their work inefficiently, a portion of your grade will suffer for it. It has happened to me when someone did not want to take my advice, did their work at the last minute, and did it poorly. So group work was a big issue for me. Most people are okay to work with, but there is always THAT person that can drag you down.
Overall, it was a fine experience. I say its too expensive, however if they have a major you KNOW is right for you, without a doubt, then money shouldn't matter! The school itself is actually really good. The entire staff that I've worked with are VERY friendly.
But that's all my experience!
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Yunik7860
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They're all about the Benjamins, baby.
I can't comment on most of this because I never attended DeVry, but a big reason I didn't attend is because of their sketchy recruiting methods.
I had one meeting with a course adviser here. We went over some of the details of the Technical Management course, and he invited me back for a second meeting to meet with a financial adviser. All this was well and good.
A few days later, I came back for my second meeting with the financial adviser. Before we had discussed anything, he had me get on a computer in his office to start filling out some forms. He got a phone call and took it, then proceeded to stay on the phone and, between words over the phone, pointed out to me what I needed to click and fill out.
Some way through these forms, I come to a promissory note. He instructs me, casually and while still 'on the phone', to go ahead and sign it. Mind you, this is within the first 5-10 minutes of my second meeting and after no discussion whatsoever of finances.
If I had been a bit younger, a bit less experienced and a bit more naive, I might have fallen for the trick and committed myself to a serious financial burden, but as it was, I was 24 and already bitter at the debt I had acquired as a result of what secondary education I had already experienced.
I told him I wasn't ready to sign that, and he seemed confused. He, as well as the course adviser, played it off as a misunderstanding between us.
When I came to the next meeting, they tried again to get me to sign a promissory note. I declined, opting for further deliberations on my part, and both the financial adviser and the course adviser seemed confused, as if it was totally normal to simply sign years of your life away with minimal discussion.
Something tells me that they take advantage of many people who don't know any better. I've opted to skip further schooling for now, and while I do intend to go back to school at some point, it will absolutely not be through DeVry.
While I'm not religious, I see great truth in the saying that "money is the root of all evil." DeVry is a for-profit institution. Those whose primary goals are money cannot be trusted to look out for your best interests.
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Worst, most expensive, decision of my life
The degree is totally not worth it. I went to DeVry New York from 2005 to 2007. For the price of the degree, they are not giving you anything that a far cheaper institution is not giving. The problem is not with the quality of education (for the most part). The school has some knowledgeable professors that do a solid job. About half way through the degree and about $25,000 in debt, in addition to state and pell grants I finally wised up and decided to transfer to a state college that offers online courses. To finish up the degree, taking about the same amount of credits I took at DeVry, it cost me about 75% less. It's a good thing I left DeVry when I did or I would be in debt $50,000 instead of $30,000 (of which DeVry is responsible for $25,000, which still sucks). I wouldn't recommend anybody waste there money at DeVry. There is absolutely no reason to spend that type of money for a mediocre education. At one time maybe they had the convenience of providing online classes, but there are countless better options now for that convenience. DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY!!
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DeVry Profits Soar From Unethical Business Practices
Schools like DeVry only exist to make money, Not to educate, and each one is infamous for putting out uneducated and unprepared students. DeVry, ITT, etc. are glorified diploma mills who are helping to ruin the value of a college education by flooding the job market with meaningless degrees. Every employer I've talked about this with regards these schools as a joke and some even see a "degree" from one of these as an instant disqualifier. Everyone I've talked to who has attended one of these schools has said the education was very easy and that they weren't getting much out of it.
The student is tricked into thinking that going to DeVry will put them on a stable career track when in reality they end up exactly where they were before, lacking any serious credentials but with the additional burden of tens of thousands of dollars in debt to these fraudulent institutions. These schools are out to make a fortune on the backs of desperate young men and women, some of whom are parents and most of whom are poor.
I might have a different opinion on regulation if these colleges were worth the cost and actually gave a quality education. But since that isn't the case, regulate the hell out of them
Brick and mortar traditional non profit schools are the best choices where the primary concern is education not the for profit con job DeVry thrives on. DeVry is a Business institution so don’t fall for the hype from their savoir-faire employees. Their primary interest is profit not quality education. If you want a quality education, please do yourself a favor & look elsewhere.
Enrolled at DeVry but DeVry failed to provide the quality education it promised. Incompetent financial staff made several mistakes by not updating student payments and files always giving lame excuses and misleading information. There was a lack of qualified instructors to teach their courses which made it impossible to continue my education at DeVry.
The main reason consumers remove their complaints from companies like DeVry is because they are threatened with lawsuits among other threats. Most businesses like DeVry know the unlikelihood of students taking legal actions against their well-paid aggressive lawyers. DeVry is known to hire people simply to review any negative comments & complaints against them on the Internet. These people are paid employees of DeVry to defend the reputation of their company regardless of the amount of legitimate complaints against them. Ever wonder why DeVry expands their business to areas where they know they’ll get the most tuition paid for through government grants. The company has expanded their operations in poorer Latin American markets like Brazil & are looking to expand more abroad in developing countries like China & India. There remains a lack of government regulations with businesses like DeVry failing to protect the consumers who are misled by false promises in providing a superior university education. DeVry’s executives are well-aware how easy it is to get rich taking advantage of students who won’t have the resources necessary to hire a lawyer protecting their student rights when they are ripped off. AND RIP OFF IS WHAT DEVRY IS. Don’t be fooled by their ads or recruiting personnel. These are well-trained individuals working only for DeVry’s best interests and they make big money for every enrolled student who signs a contract. Do the research and be aware that most of the encouraging comments posted for DeVry are made by paid employees and not actual students. Students rarely have time from their studies to post complaints if they weren’t legit and if DeVry provided them an upright education.
Brick and mortar traditional non profit schools are the best choice where the primary concern is education not the for profit con job DeVry thrives on. DeVry is a business institution so don’t fall for the hype from their savoir-faire employees. Their associates are well-paid to mislead consumers to sign their contract. Hook, line and sinker is what they say. DeVry’s primary interest is profit and not quality education. If you want a quality education, look elsewhere.
If for-profit schools were delivering a worthwhile education then why are they suing the U.S. government to stop the new rules & regulations which would be imposed upon them July 1, 2011. What are they afraid of? The rules are part of a larger package of new regulations being imposed on for-profit schools, accused of churning out poorly educated students with large debts.
One rule challenged by the suit would stop deceptive advertising by schools, another bars recruiters from being paid based on how many students they enroll and a third requires states to authorize post-secondary schools for their students to be eligible for federal loans.
The lawsuit did not challenge the yet-to-be-finalized and most controversial of the reforms -- the "gainful employment" rule.
That rule would require schools to show that students are paying back federal loans or can do so. Students at schools that fall short would be barred from receiving federal loans, which would cripple most For-profit schools like DeVry. Our economy cannot sustain any more failures in government regulation & corporate mismanagement.
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Anonymous
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Worth it
I graduated from Devry with a degree Networking and Communication Management in 2008. When i was attending Devry, i read comments about it. It was the beginning of my first year at Devry. People were commenting about how bad devry is, and its a degree mill. I thought to myself "i am screwed"
i was soo afraid for my future, that i wanted to get out. The negative comments started affecting my confidence, and my grades. I wanted to dropout, because i was worried. It got to the point where i had depression, and i felt like suiciding.
But one day, i received a phone call from school. They told me to speak with them and express my concerns to them. We talked it out, and i began to feel more confident in going to Devry. I decided to stay and continue with my bachelors degree. Near the end of graduation, i received a phone call from career services. I was told to go there immediately and dress perfectly. I arrived, and to my surprise, a man stood in front of me and offered me an interview.
Few days later, i got the job and earned 50k/yr. Its not bad for a kid with previous experience. From my experience to others: Go to whatever school you wish, dont let other judgement cloud your thoughts. Write down your goals, and stay positive with your thoughts.
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Great Education- very hard though
I completed my BS in Technical Management (Operations mgmt) in 2008. It took 2 years, and I was able to transfer a good number of classes I completed from a 2 year school. This school is NOT for anyone who needs their hand held, or wants to give the teacher an apple to get a good grade. It's very hard work, 8 weeks to finish a normal semester. I already had an AAS from a very good school, and the teachers @ DeVry were very knowledgable and had great work histories. Their support staff was pleasant. I know this may contrary to previous reviews, but I can't but think that some of the other reviews were "kids" hoping that online courses would be a piece of cake. Make no mistake, this is a real college, with real teachers, teaching tough courses. You get out of it, what you put in it.
Yes it is very expensive, but for some, me included, it was the only real way I could go back and get my degree. (Magna Cum Laude 3.8 gpa, class 2008)
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Angiefederico
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Not worth thhe time or money
I started with DeVry and graduated with a degree in Business Management. I was turned on by the ease of learning on my time, 24/7, whenever and wherever and I bought into the hype about DeVry and their regional accreditation, that emplyers would embrace me when I graduated.
The truth was something else. The courses were so, so. Teachers okay, about on par with my high school teachers, maybe not even that good. The real shock was when I asked career services for help. Prior to enrollment I was told that DeVry had over a 92% job placement success ratio. However, in the real world it is much less.
Finding work was difficult and the only jobs I was offered were low paying entry level positions in most cases not even in my selected field.
My real concern about DeVry is the outlandish claims they make about job placement and high incomes when you graduate. I was told that I could expect to earn $1.4 million more with my degree than with just a high school diploma. I know people with only a GED who earning the same as me, some more based on tenure.
Also here is an interesting article that appeared on the internet telling the truth about colleges and the high income propaganda.
http://finance.yahoo.com/college-education/article/109946/college-big-investment-paltry-return?mod=edu-continuing_education
Education is certaintly a value. How unfortunate that schools like DeVry are exploiting this field, making wild claims and taking advantage of people like myself who have the drive, desire, ambition and fortitude to make something of ourselves.
Shame on you DeVry!
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Anonymous
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Devry works out...if you do!
I have attended Devry for four courses now. I am getting my Bachelors in Finance. Yes, Devry is a tad expensive...compared to community colleges!!!
So far my professors, with actual doctorates, have shown extra-ordinary expertise in their fields. Devry hires part-time instructors...mostly. They "currently" work in their career fields, or operate their own consulting firms or commercial companies. You get real world knowledge at Devry. This school is for-profit. If you choose to be a lacky, they will not treat you like one, but you will not succeed. They're not going to force success down your throat. Student services, registration, and administration are kind, outgoing, and helpful. They will bust their butt for you, because most Devry campuses are small. There are 93 of them. Staff knows your name, your not going to get that a huge university, unless you're an athlete.
Devry is great for working adults. Some courses are online, and some may be partially in class for lectures. I do both. Classes are challenging. If they are not challenging enough for you...great...transfer to Harvard or MIT when you can. It all depends what you are trying to achieve with your degree. Devry is quick to place students on academic probation, but will help you by every means to graduate. They expect a C or better on all coursework.
Classes are like 10-30 students. It's good because the professor can focus on individual needs. They actually care, will answer any questions for you, and give you their phone numbers and personal email addresses. You are not just a number in big lecture hall, large campus, or in dorms. School is not distracting with sports and prepy organizations to keep your mind detoured from studies. Devry is business at it's best. If you are about learning, and are ready to buckle down and do what your professors ask of you, then you are on the right track with Devry. They will take your tuition, like any school, but it's up to you to make your education worthwhile.
Basically, if you work hard to acheive your goals, have a strong sense of self, and are motivated to get where you want to be in life, your choice of educational institution is not "too" relevant. Name brand helps, reputation does play a role, but in the end you are the "major factor". Perhaps, some of you cannot sell yourselves in the real world. Relying on that piece of paper as your only credential or value in the workforce is the wrong way to go. If you don't got it, you just don't got it! Make sure you have strong interview skills, and lucrative supporting creditionals along with your degree, before trying to enter the workforce.
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Anonymous
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all lies
I Graduated from DeLie .. err.. DeVry with a 3.9 Magna Cum Laude Majored in BSTM with my concentration in NCM (network communication management). I went to the school in Fremont CA, missed no days, and I know nothing about networking, routing, voip, switching. etc.. I still don't have a job, obviously from lack of skill, because I have the credentials. Devry made a lot of promises to me about what I would be learning, it was all lies.. and now I have a 60 thousand dollar loan to pay back. I have made some mistakes in life, we all have, but hands down, the biggest mistake of my entire life was going to devry. I lost my time, my money, my drive to strive for knowledge in computer networking. all gone, due to devry.
Now I am forced to go back to school, to really learn what I should have already been taught. I went there to learn skills in networking, but all they did was bog me down with core classes that I already took in another college, I transferred to devry after I got my AA degree, with a 4.0 (and was nominated for valedictorian by the way). but for devry, that wasn't good enough, I had to RETAKE all my math classes, down to basic algebra for some reason, some excuse about the class code number of my math class was lower then devrys, so it wouldn't qualify. my statistic class got disbanded due to the teacher was nuts, no really, I'm not kidding, I complained and had the school send in another teacher to "sit in" on his lectures and the next day the class was disbanded and we got a new teacher, I have pictures. In another class, data basing, we (the whole class, 15-20 of us students) got to sit outside the class, on the floor, for 2 hours, because the class was locked and then to find out why, it was because there was no teacher scheduled to teach the class, so they just made the IT manager of the school teach it, that was a joke, she didn't know the material or have a lesson plan, how could she, she's not a teacher and that's not her job in the first place. I can go on and on, about drug use in the parking lot, and the ongoing failures of the school. but it just makes me more and more depressed.
just don't find out the hard way like I did, the only good devry has done for me, is to motivate me to get my master degree, because I'm too ashamed to admit being a devry student and if anyone ask me where I graduated from I want to say some other school..
p.s. as a final insult, when I got my degree, it said I graduated cum laude. that class that was disbanded, because I was a whistleblower they gave me a C and that killed my GPA. Leo Storm, Fremont CA.
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Drrickyprice
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DeVry is Unethical
DeVry is an expensive school. I am paying cash, $2,000 a month or more. Teachers are generally good, but I had one who tried to teach leadership when she had no concept of what it was. Their major problems are IT and support. Their IT system is an antiquated hodgepodge of legacy computers and outdated systems. Hence, one department does not know what another is doing. But their major problem is that they send Emails which appear to have been sent from a certain party but were not. This is duplicitous, unethical, and impersonating. They completely screwed up my account. I was sent an Email demanding the wrong amount of money or I could not register. It also said I had agreed to pay up front, which I hadn't. I didn't know who sent it becaus ethe sender masqueraded themselves as my Student Support Advisor. I became upset at her unnecessarily because I intially thought she had sent it. Bottom line: DeVry has a serious problem with ethical behavior. They teach it but they don't do it. I really do not wish to pay $2,000 a month for this, but I have so many classes accumulated I may not be able to switch schools. If this sort of thing does not bother you, the academics are not bad. But I expect anyone I deal with to practice what they preach.
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Anonymous
(Graduate) on August 23, 2009
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Avoid Like Plague
They had a great learning model, but abandoned it for 8 week sessions all of which are half online, the in class portion of which is usually led by a teacher who knows you cannot learn anything of real depth or value in 8-weeks and so they talk about their life outside of school. This school, Keller included, is a waste of money. They charge as much (if not more) than some REAL, excellent colleges, and they are basically Phoenix Online with some onsite assistance. The staff couldn't care less about you, and in Keller your final grade is 40% comprised of the final exam (some of which only have 5-10 questions, others with over 50), and most of the time you haven't even scratched the material as they keep sucking money from your pockets. Beyond that, they have the most inefficienct Financial Aid department, rude staff members, and if you really question the teachers you realize they do not even understand the topics they are teaching. Having to teach your teacher is a pain in the ass.
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Marshalltwilson
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Only did one week term
I only did one 8 week term with them and I was not very impressed. They have weak points and strong points. The weak points are that they are a for profit institution. So their main goal is to make money. Also they are supposed to be a technical institure but they have had problems with their own website for a couple of weeks and it is really annoying because I can not look at my bill, and my classes that I am registered for. It is funny to me that they are Devry, but can not even keep their own website running correctly. They are too expensive for an online institution. We are talking 500+ dollars per credit hour, if you are active duty military or your spouse is you will get a discount. I think it is then 280 per credit hour, but still expensive, my gi bill barely covers it. So don't expect to live off of the gi bill too much with them. Also I had to take a required class called critical thinking/learning, it is the biggest waste of money ever. You don't learn anything and I just found myself getting more and more aggrevated at the class because I had wasted a month's worth of gi bill benifits. The other class I am taking, economics, is pretty challenging. If the rest of the classes are this way I would expect it to be a challengeing program. So don't expect a degree for a fee. I found that the test do not really correspond to the material in the textbooks, so I did poorly on the midterm(I am dreading the final).
For the positive side, the support is great. Especially if you are a veteran and will be using the gi bill. They pretty much take care of everything for you. There was never a problem that they could not handle. Student finance was very easy to work with and I have not had any problems with them. The two main reasons I am leaving Devry are the cos( I just got an email that tuition is going up in june) and the other reason is more of a personal thing, I am no longer interested in the program I am taking. But they do offer a variety of technical programs and you can't beat the flexibility of an online class.
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Anonymous
(Graduate) on January 8, 2009
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Comprehensive and Flexible MBA
I travel extensively for work, and because of that I knew that I would need an online MBA program. I looked at various reviews for several institutions, looked at the program design, and also looked at the online interface (DeVry & Keller use the eCollege web interface that is much nicer (IMO) than Blackboard). After narrowing it down to two universities, I spoke with a few grads from each, looked at graduation rates, and also looked at the distribution of grades (didn't want a program where everyone received 'A's).
One of the things I really liked about the Keller MBA program was the variety of concentrations, the solid core curriculum, and elective courses that I could use to tailor the program in a way that provided the greatest interest and value to me.
The program was solid, and all of the instructors / professors were knowledgeable and helpful. I found the online courses to be much more challenging than traditional course. Instead of having immediate direct interaction with others in your class, you needed to research online posts and provide support for your statements and assertions. It really forced you to learn more about a subject. The downside was that if you had problems with something you also did not get immediate feedback, so you might spend more time on a subject than you planned. But, that is likely true for most online programs.
I work with many MBAs - many from traditional universities with good reputations. I can hold my own when we discuss finance, economics, strategy, and other MBA-like topics. It has also helped be perform better in my job (management), although I can't say that it has helped me earn a higher salary. But, all-in-all I am very satisfied with the quality of the education received.
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