New York Institute of Technology-Ellis College

Jenn:

What luck did you have with Dr. Carlin?

Anyone having difficulties with the financial aid department making mistakes or related complaints should try contacting the following people. I have heard that you can get things cleared up by going directly through them:
Dean of Students, Dr. Virginia Carlin at vcarlin@cardean.com or( vcarlin@ellis.edu)
Associate Provost Dr. John Neal at jneal@cardean.com 
- if all else fails try the BBB or a lawsuit. They should not have this type of repeated error happening with students. Clearly they are not showing that they are competent if they have so many complaints within the same area and it just so happens to be related to "finances". Best wishes to everyone going through this and I hope you get it resolved fast. I would not recommend Ellis University at all!

by the way my Email add is
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Hello SAR,

Thanks for the link I will follow a complain agaist them, as they placed me on collection..

Ellis has always had a horrible FA department. In the past, I have requested information regarding payments and credits to my account and have always been given the run around. They sent me a letter about 6 months ago telling me that I owed them $52,000. I called and asked what the problem was and then got the same run around that they give everyone. I explained that the student loan I obtained to pay for the school was $37,000. I was curious where they came up with a number that was $15,000 dollars more then what I was suppose to have borrowed. The woman I spoke to said she didnt know but I would have six months to pay the balance back. I patiently tried to explain to her that a $52,000 balance wasnt possible. After about ten minutes, she finally told me she would look it over and get back to me.

They just recently sent me an email saying I owed them $200.00. After I calculated all of the debits/credits and compared it to Sallie Mae, they are actually off. They own ME (or at least need to refund Sallie Mae) about $2600.00

I've called the EDOIG. I would suggest anyone having issues with Ellis (or any school financial aid department for that matter) to contact their local field office. The EDOIG investigates any fraud that occurs with Education Department funds.

www.ed.gov/about/offices/list/oig/hotline.html

Hello A Mitchell,

Please contact as I'm having the same issue with Ellis University. They asking for some debt that I don;t even own them. They told me right after I told they I don;t want to join Ellis University.

Dear All: 


I have just went through the same issue last week.  I was fored to pay over 3500.00, and after I paid, they wanted an additional 900.00

I am working on filing a complaint with the Nassau County DA. 

I reccommend we persue a class action law suit.

Jason, Kim. JoAnna, Jeremy,

The same thing has happen to me.  The college wants more than 15k from me.  I completed my MBA in 2006.  I have had several discussions with the Financial Aid Director who basically stated that the debt was not my fault, financial aid did not timely handle my loan, and the lender took the money back.   I just recently received an email from the Bursar stating that my account was being sent to collections.  I explained my situation to the collection agency and was told to not waste my time disputing the debt because the college is right.  I want this to go away, if you can help please email me at a-simpson@sbcglobal.net

JoAnna, Jeremy and Kim 

I had the same thing happen to me.  They want more than $6,000 from me.  This has been going on for over a year and now they sent me into collections.  Apparently 3,500 students were affected and they give you one month to pay this off.  Please contact me at elliscomplaint@yahoo.com if you are in this situation as we are now reaching out to the media, elected officials and better business bureau to help resolve.

Ellis College/NYIT whatever the name is awful! I have no problems with the education I received but the financial aid department is AWFUL! I graduated in 2006 and just now received an email (2009) saying I owe them money! And, they claim they've made numerous attempts to contact me which isn't true at all! As soon as I received the email, I was in touch with the financial aid office and after a load of back and fourth emails, they sent me one last email that said they had found the funds they were missing. Thought it was all taken care of then I received another email last week (July) saying I'm in collections! Now, the collections office is contacting me! I've been in contact with financial aid (again) and they can't figure out anything! I sent an email with attachments that show they received the funds from Sallie Mae and yet they don't care! I called them again and again and all I get is voice mail! Today I was told someone would defintely call me back...that remains to be seen! 

It's pretty sad when the collections agency is more understanding and helpful than your school. Apparently, there was a whole list of people sent to collections in error......I pray it isn't you! It's been a stressful experience for sure! I'm filing complaints!!!!!!  If anyone reading this has also experienced what I have, send me an email at kmbrly_jnsn@yahoo.com

Thanks!

Like JoAnne I took enrolled in 2004 and completed the course work in 2004. I have recently been contacted by a collections agency stating that I owe them (NYIT-Ellis College) money.  This is pretty odd since the first time i have been notified about any outstanding balance is 5 years after taking classes with the school.  I loved the class format when I took the classes but since I have "finished" it is a lot of hassle to straighten everything out.  I still have not been able to get this taken care of.

I attended Ellis for my MBA with my husband starting in 2004.  I needed a way for both of us to get our MBAs while having an 8 month old daughter and working full time.  It was great up until the last month I was there.  I was submitting my paperwork for graduation only to find out that they had sat on paperwork the whole "semester" and I had to take another class to get my financial aid.  After a horrific last month everything was taken care of and I even received a small refund check in February of 2006.  Amazingly enough, I am now being told that I owe a whole semester's amount on my account (what is it now like almost 4 years since I graduated!!) and that they want to put me in collections.  I am wondering if anyone else had this problem.  I can't seem to get them to understand how ridiculous this is after all these years that now it is a problem.

Once ELLIS UNIVERSITY/CARDEAN was BANISHED from NYIT that is when things started to get better for the students, MUCH BETTER.

However, the teaching platform Ellis and NYIT uses (developed by many colleges and universities!!) is GREAT, the class length is nice as well.

NYIT-ELLIS COLLEGE CAMPUS is not accepting anymore new enrollments and they are in the process of removing the Ellis College aura from the remaining student body and fully integrating them into the NYIT family. Something we have all been waiting for. The final diplomas (through 2013) also do not make reference to Ellis College.

YES LIKE THE POSTER ABOVE SAID "NEW SITE-NEW SCHOOL" ""BUT"" IT IS THE VERY SAME CARDEAN LEARNING GROUP SUPPORT STAFF AND ADMINISTRATION THAT RAN ELLIS COLLEGE of NYIT AND HONESTLY THEY SUCK (Sorry but that is how I feel) The professors they use ARE great though, there the devil gets it's due!

FINAL WORD: Take a class or two with the NEW Ellis University and make your OWN decision.

I'm currently enrolled in the MBA program and 25% complete. I chose to stay with the College due to the affiliation with NYIT, but other than having NYIT on my diploma and attending the graduation, there isn't any difference. The experience has been great. Many of the online courses were developed at or by other business schools. I've taken one developed thru Univ of Chicago and one developed by Columbia Univ. The learining is flexible and can happen whenever I want, the price is OK. Let's face it, it isn't Wharton, but still pretty solid.

I graduated from Ellis College two years ago with an MBA/HR.  I loved the experience and the classes.  Only one professor spoiled it for me (long story).  I am thinking of resuming classes for another degree and came across the postings.  It sounds as though Ellis College is going downhill.  Should I look elsewhere?

I just searched, there is NO Bryce B as a current or former  student at Ellis C or Ellis U....

Yes that sounds strange to me as well, since all of the coursework is text specific. It would be impossible to pass without it. If Bryce B did not buy any text books he most likely flunked out of his program. I can't blame him for being mad, failure is a bad thing.

Ellis College is dead, NYIT ALL THE WAY BABY!!

Well, to the student who took 8 classes and never had to buy a book (see above post) I do not know how you ever passed your classes!  I have been with NYIT/Ellis for two years and will graduate in March. I am proud of the education I received and know that I have learned a great deal.

Ellis students, please post your feedback here:

onlinedegreereviews.org/college/ellis-university/

Well, I'm an Ellis College of NYIT student myself.  The college has advised for months of the separation (although you'd only find out if you're enrolled already, but they honor the NYIT degree they promised.)

Now, I can't see much of the big deal about the separation.  I'm in California, and obviously I would have to explain how, after living all my life here, I have a degree from NY.  Ellis U is regionally accredited, which is what really matters.  NYIT does not have such a great reputation as some may indicate (go ahead, search for reviews of NYIT vs. other colleges.) The one criteria is that it is a physical college, existing in time and space vs. a virtual college existing in bytes and bits.  

Objectively speaking, Ellis has an excellent platform which you can experience by visiting their site.  Should NYIT try to do the same, it would take them years.  Quality, obviously, is no different than a B&M such as NYIT.  They have a big hill to climb, however.  Being a first generation immigrant in this country myself, I know what it's like to go against the current, and see Ellis U in the same path as it tries to compete with B&M degrees.  They have to give their 101% to succeed.

Agreed. Actually they did not change the name Ellis University is a different school all together. 

The NYIT-Ellis Campus is no longer accepting students and is NOW run by NYIT (except the instruction). Those students are now safe from The Cardean Learning Group (AKA: Ellis University) finally.

I am seriously considering suing this school if they do not correct their mistakes. It has been an awful experience attending Ellis College NYIT and no matter what they change their name to (Ellis University) the financial aid department, enrollment/admissions department operation is absolutely horrible. They lie to you in order to get you enrolled quickly, try to take your money and make threats to get money they aren't even owed. I would definitely look in another direction for a better and more stable school with administration that actually knows what they're doing and operates with honesty. It's not worth the hassle to try to obtain a degree from this "College". Do yourself a big favor and really choose another school.

Ellis recently split from NYIT and became Ellis University. Beware of the bait and switch.

I attended Ellis for 8 classes and the financial aid dept is basically non communicative and absolutely clueless.  Never had to buy a book for one class and basically got B'S'd about what the transcript and Diploma would say when I originally sighned up.  They are so full of crap it should say that on the Diploma.

I recently completed my undergraduate degree at Ellis.  I enjoyed it so much that I have enrolled for my MBA.  Although some classes were more challenging than others it was a great experience.  I enjoyed my fellow students as well as my teachers.  I only had one class where I thought the instructor was up in the night.  Compared to a bricks and mortar environment I thought that was pretty good.
Also I enjoyed the format and the technology.  I think this is particularly an environment that can be appreciated by the adult learner.