Review Averages: 5.9 out of 10
Accreditation: The North Central Association of Colleges and Schools
Northcentral University Reviews:
NCU LMFT Master's program
Northcentral University - September 22, 2015
When I first inquired about NCU and expressed my concerns about being able to find supervision during my practicum, I was told not to worry and that they would help me every step to ensure placement. They also told me that MFT's are constantly entering the field, so it shouldn't be a problem finding a supervisor for my clinicals. I also expressed to the academic supervisor that I am not able to quit my job; my job has to come first and again, was told this would not be a problem, students work full time while completing their degree. What they didn't tell me is that the students who are working full time are also asking for extensions to complete their hours and paying extra to ensure they have the extra time. I enjoyed my classes; however, when it came to practicum, I had no support and was told, "why weren't you looking before now?" I explained that I made it very clear when I started the program that my job was very demanding. I was never made aware at any point that I only had so long before I was being "dismissed" from the program. I did reach out for help, but was told I could sort through the 600 MFT's in Oklahoma and call and see if someone would be willing to become a supervisor. The closest I could find is 2 1/2 hours away from me. I feel they lied to me about the availability of MFT's in my area. I also feel they did not have adequate data to support their claims about MFT's coming into the field every day in my area. I am at 36 hours and no chance at a degree at this point. I feel they mislead students (of course it's money driven) into thinking there are many opportunities, when in fact, they have no data about a student's location.
1 of 4 people found the following review helpful
Distinguishably Coordinated Communication
MBA - September 10, 2015
Many instances of poor writing are evident that was produced by the faculty, including the dissertation chair. The writing does not meet upper-division and graduate-University writing requirements--the composition consists of short choppy sentences that are of the same sentence style, and that frequently contain modification and predication problems. Much about subordination and coordination should be important to the administrators and faculty of NCU. Their awkward wording conveys problems--readers are bound to misinterpret passages such as, "With the increasing turnover rates, the specific problem was to investigate..." Please notice that the introductory phrase incoherently modifies its subject in this case. As an introductory phrase, it illogically relates to its subject. Comprehensive and logical wording should be, for example, "the...turnover rates caused the specific problem..." Furthermore, the specific problem cannot investigate--only an individual or group of individuals can investigate. The problem in this case was the effect of increasing turnover rates on the emotional intelligence of the leader; and, the related loss of profitability. As this passage is worded in the Best Practices for the Concept Paper example, no distinct cause-and-effect relationship is conveyed between the subject and predicate, and the absence of a fully logical connection between the subject and predicate leads to confusion. Even more trying are the oxymoronic passages such as, "If you turn in a revised milestone document, you do not need to turn in a status update", and, "Please update me each week by the due date with your progress for the week"--"it is very important to NCU policy that you turn in a weekly progress report." The first clause in this case obviously is contradicted by the 2nd and 3rd clauses. Awkward wording such as this is common in the NCU Syllabi and Welcome Letters. Furthermore, my objectively worded questions about such awkward wording were ignored by the Chair, mentors, and advisors. These mentors and Chairs have not diligently pursued the subject that they are intending to instruct; nor have they prepared their syllabi. They have not read what I've submitted, and the feedback from my Chair is poorly written. Is such incoherent writing common in America today? She is not knowledgeable in language education. Wherever I have edited and revised reports and assignments for students, and as I have worked avidly in class, my faculty members have expressed gratitude for my contributions. Avid reading and writing skills clearly are not appreciated by the highly paid Department Chairs at NCU who do not understand that many students today graduate with their first degree only to discover that their senior parental figures sold their home and moved to another community. Private-interest groups are dominating financial outlets so unjustly that the literary standards of the U.S. are declining. Scholarly writing should be void of faulty expletives--poorly focused sentences that use "it" and "there" with no reference to what "it" and "there" mean. Sentences with "there" are existential sentences that should mean "there exists." However, such expletive patterns, including "it [+ a conjugation of the infinitive 'to be']" are commonly overused and misused. Conscientious University instructors do not boast steadily about their achievements as they ignore the need to answer critical questions and to improve their wording. Learning institutions must include a faculty of instructors who are concerned about proficient communicative interaction between instructor and student; and, they must convey a sense of responsibility and accountability for their actions. If NCU representatives sincerely were concerned about achieving educational goals, they would offer valid feedback with each assignment that they return to their students. Appallingly, they have been intensely offended that I posed concern about their contradictory and awkward wording. Yes, I passed the Comps and DIS1, and my GPA is 3.97; yet, the NCU system abounds in incoherent wording, communication gaps, and superiority complexes that are not evident in the most highly accredited learning institutions; consequently, I must report my observations and experiences about inevitable misunderstandings that are inherent in the Chair-Committee-student scenario. The mentors and chair do not converse or relate interactively with students about textbook assignments and milestone projects. The consequences will be severe now that I have complained to my advisor and the BBB about my NCU Chair. I complained because she is not knowledgeable in the areas of English and language instruction, which are the topics of my research in the instruction of English as a second language. In fact, I have learned that NCU maintains no English Department or English-credentialed instructor whatsoever. The salesmen who enrolled me did not reveal this issue to me. Since then, I have offered to edit/revise their literature. However, neither my Advisor nor Chair have responded conscientiously about the issues that I have shared here--these being but a couple of many more communication problems that are inherent in the operations of NCU. Of course, subversion is occurring throughout our nation today. Our academic standards are being compromised as we must interact with strangers who after all may advocate for war rather than for peaceful resolve. One may read and report about what one has read at NCU, but that may render naught as the NCU mentors and Chair are not supporting an active learning agenda. Neither are they accounting for the original promises that their sales people promised their perspective students. They should be willing to work with me; however, they are predisposed in their own agenda and private interests to respond appropriately with any hint even that they have read my work or the assigned textbooks. One would hope for improved attitudes and performance levels. Overwhelming is the quest of the faculty and staff for thousands of dollars and more, with no regard for the quality of their product. Without a doubt, active-duty military members and governmental employees are an asset for NCU's reputation, credibility, and financial portfolio. Remember, though, that these students are working from a business orientation that does not parallel the high literary standards of upper-division and graduate academia. Profit-mindedness is causing a deterioration of our national academic standards and excellent verbal skills that include critical and analytical reading and writing proficiencies. English majors who represent Cambridge and Oxford Universities and other Universities throughout the world would not approve of the practices to which I have referred here.
just wondering outloud
Psychology - September 9, 2015
I have one more course to complete a MA in psychology. I have been happy with most instructors and material. I think some of the books were written for BA level however. What I really want to know is if my degree is going to be worth the paper it is written on. Is it going to be accepted as proper credentials to teach?
5 of 5 people found the following review helpful
Overall, I am satisfied with my experience with NCU
PhD in Business Administration - August 14, 2015
I am active duty in the military and I used tuition assistance to fund my MBA, CAGS, and PhD through NCU. The price is very reasonable since the school offers a scholarship for active duty military. I only had to pay an extra $175/per class, so compared to other online universities (Capella, University of Phoenix, Walden), the cost of this school is definitely more reasonable. I have another doctorate degree from a brick and mortar school, and it is definitely better than an online format. I would have probably learned more if I received my MBA and PhD if I also went to a traditional setting again. Unfortunately, I could not afford to do that because of family and because of my full time job. An online school school was the next best thing for me. I was able to get my degrees, spend time with the family, and also be effective at work. More importantly, I do not have any student loans. Compared to other accredited online schools, I don't think NCU is better or worse but it is definitely more affordable. I also learned some and made me more competitive for advancement. Overall, I recommend this school to active duty personnel who are using TA. If you are AD, do not waste your hard-earned money or GI bill on other online schools. By the way, I do not understand how some people on the reviews can spend 12 dissertation courses and not even finish their concept paper. Prior to your dissertation, you spend every class on the different phases of the dissertation, so you should almost have a completed dissertation prior to even starting your dissertation. I completed my dissertation a little over my 5th dissertation course. I am glad that people are complaining about low graduation rates for PhD. It just shows that the school is not just a diploma mill. It makes me feel better about completing my degree.
2 of 5 people found the following review helpful
The Worst School Ever
Ed.D. - August 3, 2015
Northcentral University was the WORST educational experience of my life. The practices were unfair,unreasonable; they employed some of the most awful teachers ever, who should not even be allowed to teach; they don't care about the students; and they wasted my time and money. Do NOT go there!
4 of 7 people found the following review helpful
current student for now
Northcentral University - July 22, 2015
I have a masters already.I my program at inch the first CLASS required 5 texts. They charged me for 5 I received only 2. The next course required only 1 guess what out of stock. Their advice was go on Amazon. They gave me a refund course 2 one text required of course their bookstores does not have it Now I am.being penalized for not doing the assignment.I went a step ahead to my next course to buy a book from their store it was out of stock. My advice to them open a used car lot sell the car tell the buyer after you got the money oh get your keys down the block and the person who bought and paid finds out the keys are out of stock?and by the way the will be towed in seven day's if you can't drive it out!!
7 of 9 people found the following review helpful
You'll Stay PhD ABD!
PhD Education - July 20, 2015
I have completed all the coursework and my comps and can't get past the concept paper. This is my second dissertation course and was told by my chair it would take numerous courses before it's approved. I requested a change in chair since my questions are never answered preventing me from making satisfactory progress. I have asked my chair numerous questions in the weekly checkins and never receive an answer. She makes comments in her response that indicates she hasn't even read what I posted. I finally called, had a 20 minute conversation where I was told I was rude and would receive a warning for student misconduct if I didn't act more respectfully. I asked why my questions were never answered and why I still hadn't received a copy of her specific Change Matrix and I was told I acknowledge receipt of it. When I pointed out that my first week checkin stated I had not received it and requested she send another copy she said she would. I received it 12 days later after I requested it for a third time. The I received a letter from the dean that a permanent letter of student misconduct was in my records. Everything cited in the letter was a lie and I was never even given a chance to refute the allegation. This after 8 years of stellar performance and a 3.9 GPA. My advice - stay away.
2 of 4 people found the following review helpful
PhD in Business Administration - July 14, 2015
It is hard to understand a person who indicates his/ her PhD program was at the bachelors level but they kept going for 7 years and paid thousands of dollars. Why did they not stop before all that. Seems suspicious to me someone would keep putting themselves through such torture and then complain later. Makes no sense to me. NCU is a good school that offers you the opportunity to move forward. If you cannot hack it do not go. I found them to be supportive and the instructor met with me in person and showed genuine concern. I'm sorry it did not work out for some but I certainly found the school to be outstanding.
6 of 9 people found the following review helpful
Believe it - NCU is a SCAM
PhD in Business Administration - July 10, 2015
I completed all pre-dissertation coursework with a 3.9 GPA and passed my comprehensive exam on the first try with over a 98%. I am a great student and have been successful in all of my classes at NCU. Keep in mind I have been at this for over 7 years, and I have paid tens of thousands out of my own pocket for my PhD at NCU. But, as others have said, the dissertation process is next-to-impossible to complete. I never got past the concept paper phase. My dissertation chair was changed over 4 times, and all of the chairs were incompetent, unavailable, unhelpful, and unprofessional. As others have said, the classes did not even exceed a bachelors level of difficulty. And, instructor help was not even present in the coursework portion of the degree. But, they HANG YOU OUT TO DRY in the dissertation portion of the degree. This may serve as a WARNING to those who may follow. DO NOT GIVE NCU one penny of your hard-earned money. It is a SCAM school. I am not happy to have spent $30K+ and 7+ years of my life for nothing. I personally know a handful of people who are having the same experience. They take your money and provide nothing in return. I wonder how they are even able to stay in business. Let's unite and put an end to the madness. NCU needs to cease to exist. It is time the truth about this school be made known.
10 of 13 people found the following review helpful
Don't Listen to the Negative Reviews
PhD in Business Administration - June 10, 2015
Just like you, I was interested in reading current and former students' opinions of their experience at NCU. I can tell you that you will hear a TON of negative reviews. Yes, the graduation rate is lower in general for PhD programs than the national standard (37% versus 57% in 2005). But just keep in mind that not everyone is cut out to earn a PhD. It is supposed to be hard! Don't let that deter you from choosing this school. If you are looking for a solid education with amazing support staff and mentors (that is what the professors are called) that provide valuable feedback, then this is the place to go. When I was researching schools to attend (online because it wasn't possible with my schedule to go to a traditional B&M school), what really swayed me was the "no residency" requirement and the one-on-one classroom model. The thing I hated about my MBA was half my grade resulted from group work. The classes at NCU run for either 8 weeks or 12 weeks, and you really have the chance to start exploring and doing research on your chosen dissertation topic early in the process. Your coursework makes up the first two years of your studies, then you take a 12 week comprehensive exam. Once you pass that, you are deemed a doctoral candidate. It is at that point you start your concept paper. The concept paper is a 9 page paper that explores your chosen topic. Once that is accepted, you are able to start on your dissertation. Unlike many other PhD programs where you pretty much have to write your dissertation and then find out if it is accepted or not, if your concept paper doesn't pass then you didn't just waste years of writing. The biggest complaint I hear from other students further in the program is the lack of valuable feedback or mentors that take way too long to comment on work. The school has a 21 day feedback policy once you get into the dissertation phase and a 4 day policy with regular coursework. The program is challenging, especially if you are not good at managing your time. It was suggested to me that hiring an editor as early as the comprehensive exam is smart because they are able to pinpoint issues with your writing and identify grammatical/APA formatting mistakes so you don't have to keep rewriting your work. The mentors are not there to teach you, but more to guide you. In a PhD program, there shouldn't be anything new to teach since you have already gone through at least seven years of college prior to your acceptance into the program. The support staff at the school have been excellent in my opinion, from the initial advisers signing you up for your classes, to financial aid, down to the academic support center they have. If you need help with any of your classes, you can utilize their tutoring services, which they provide twice a week for free. I used it for my Stats course and it helped me tremendously. The books for this program are so much lower than any other school I have gone to, even when compared to my undergraduate degree at a state university. And they reuse some of the books in future classes! Do yourself a favor and disregard the negativity that comes from some of the comments here on this site and others. That's what I did because I read a few reviews that said just what I am saying to you. It doesn't matter what school you go to, online or B&M, you will get people that aren't satisfied with their experience. Just think about it, are you more likely to fill out a survey if you have a negative or positive experience? Most people would say negative. This is why I wrote this response to educate prospective students out there. Don't listen to the noise! If you are looking for a challenge in an independent home environment where the only person that can fail you is you, then consider NCU. The grades I have received are not easy to get so I really feel like I worked for those grades. I am much more satisfied with my education at this school than in either of my Master degree programs or my undergraduate program.
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