Review Averages: 4.9 out of 10
Accreditation: North Central Association
Argosy University Reviews:
2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
Health Service Management
Masters of Science in Health Service Management - July 14, 2015
I graduated and wanted to attend graduation for my Master Degree but due to lack of communication I never got to walk the stage. I completed it in 2 years actually ahead of schedule because I doubled up on classes once. The curriculum is great and you actually have a lot of work to do. I had several small papers due a week and there were no short cuts on doing them. After I graduated in 2013 I relocated to Southern California and have been looking for employment every since I've gotten here. I wish they would help more in that process. I also agree it is very expensive as well but once I find a good job then it will be worth it and I'm trying to stay optimistic.
2 of 3 people found the following review helpful
non-licensure for ALL online programs
MA of Forensic Psychology - July 3, 2015
As an older student, I am going to be truthful here; I had one very bad experience with an instructor who would not communicate in a timely manner for a project, this caused delays and then I could not finish it on time and she would not give me more time even though it was in her discretion to do so, right in the middle of me travelling to see my son graduate from basic training in the Army. For this failed class, I tried to file a complaint on the instructor, which I had a right to, but process seemed too rigorous so I opted to not file a complaint. I continued and I have 3 more classes. I just found out that my program is a non licensure program which I assumed there was some other option to do forensic counseling because all the class examples involve counselling. Yet in this state, you must be licensed to do counseling. So I asked for a call from my advisor which took 2 weeks, which he called and I found out that any licensure programs in this state, must have as on-campus for the program. So, all this course/class work on counselling and I can never use it! I totally misunderstood the details of what Masters level psychologists can do. I got it now. I'll finish my program and go to a licensure program elsewhere. So now add some more money and time to the $60,000 I owe to the student loans I have already.
2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
For profit and definitely not for the people
Education - July 2, 2015
If you're looking for an institution that cares more about meeting it's student quotas than student success, Argosy University, Chicago is the place for you! I have never seen a place where the admissions team only cares about how many students they enroll. The Director has basically brain washed the top officials to believe that she is for the students. For example, there were times when admissions representatives would go to her because they knew that a student wasn't ready for the fast paced class in the undergrad program. Joanna would tell representatives to enroll the students anyway. The Director of student services is never available. I remember one rep talking about her disabled student that urinated on herself in class because the handicapped restrooms were locked. Wow, who are you guys really for? Students with disabilities are only cash commodities who are enrolled to meet those quotas. It's a shame that so many people are lied to and taken for granted. The turnover rate in admissions is ridiculous...and that's because people work there and realize that they don't care about students only about getting them through the first couple of weeks of class, or census as they call it, so that Argosy can get paid. After that, it's the hell with the student. If you are considering any argosy at any location...think twice. Your degree won't mean anything in the real world. As a matter of fact, start at a community college and take many of the general classes that you need. You will save a ton of money and more than likely will work with an institution that really cares. Run fast...oh, and be on the lookout for a book about proprietory institutions AKA the ripoff scammers!
4 of 5 people found the following review helpful
Ed.D - Education Leadership
Educational Leadership - May 22, 2015
I started my (Ed.D)Education Leadership program back in January, 2007. Eversince, everthing and every experience at Argosy University, Santa Ana, California has been an awesome lifetime gift of God. I love every member of faculty, staff, and supporting body of university. However, after three years of my rigorous studies, I had completed my all courses. I took comprehensive exam but unintentionally and unknowingly I run it through "TurnItIn" and that's where my all hardship became to halult and invain. AUOC accused me of "plagiarism" which I never intended but a stupid mistake. I honestly informed Argosy Board bebore handing over my all Comps' papers, but very disappointed as they never gave me another chance. What a shame, I'm under so much education loans' debits and I need a fair consideration to complete my dissertation blocks and earn my Ed.D degree. I'll appreciate if i can be given a chance to complete my Ed.D without any prejudice preconditions from AUOC, California, USA. I got DBA degree online from UK, and left California with all heart breakings. I'm now a well respected prominent Professor of Business Administration in China, and love every thing I teach and facilitate my business grad and under-grad students.
2 of 3 people found the following review helpful
So far, so good.
Ed.D. in Counseling Psychology - December 8, 2014
I am currently enrolled in the online Counseling Psychology program. I have completed all of my course work and have passed the comp exams. I had resolved two serious incidents with this school. They even worked with me to erase the tuition of two courses. Thus far, my dissertation chair has been supportive. I am pleased with the education that I am receiving at Argosy. I do find the faculty responsive and interested in providing their students with a quality education. I did find the weekly posting of assignments and making two comments to the works submitted by my colleagues very annoying. I find not having CACREP accreditation very disappointing. However, I would recommend the online Counseling Program to anyone who enjoys working independently. That potential student should have a wide range of counseling experiences on master's degree level.
8 of 11 people found the following review helpful
MACC or Clinical Psychology Program at Argosy University
Master's Degree in Psychology with a Counseling specialty - November 13, 2014
This is for Atlanta only, so let me make that clear from the outset. I am attending the program now, only because state laws increased the requirement from 48 hours to 60 hours which means 4 more classes and about $10,000 plus books ($500). That being said, here is my breakdown of the materials, teachers, the institution itself, support and overall value. Materials: Marginal at best. Most teachers copy a boiler plate syllabus, often you will even see another teacher's name on there by mistake, and it is not often correct. The syllabus ALWAYS requires you to buy one more book then you will ever need and chances are if there is a main textbook, the other 2-3 books are just a total waste of your money - do not buy them! A waste of space, money and time. Teachers: Wow, this runs the gamut but here goes. The large majority are DOCTORS, but hold the phone. Again, doctoral degrees are largely EDD's and not PhD's in the MACC programs. And if you look even closer, those with PhD's are not licensed psychologists. You can get a PhD from anywhere but if I am in a licensing program....I want you to be a licensed therapist, not a teacher. Student Teachers: Yes, some PhD's are tired from their day jobs so they pass the buck off and make the students teach. Some might argue, "This is how you learn!" B.S. If I am teaching a chapter or 9 chapters, you had better be paying me. I do not pay $2200.00 per class to teach it, but at Argosy Atlanta I have been in 3 of 12 required courses where this is now commonplace. They mask it by making it a group project or requiring a PPT presentation, but you are still doing the teacher's work while she does some assessments she should have been doing at the office. The Institution (PHYSICAL LOCATION and AMENITIES): Deplorable. There are 4 floors inside an office building and you would not even know it was a school unless you asked. A few signs adorn a garage when driving on a highway, a mini sign (like Kinko's with 8 other companies included) outside and a few badges inside. It is not the ARGOSY bldg, they lease the space. The STUDENT LOUNGE you ask? Well that is located on the 4th floor and consists of one couch, 3 tables, a soda machine and two vending machines (often at least 1 is out of order). Embarrassing. It is not your customary graduate lounge and there is only one lounge. IT: The IT department is on the 3rd floor and rents you video cameras on CD ROMS that are from 1992. Again, it is an embarrassment. The guys there are nice but they are mostly there to help inept teachers learn how to lower their screens for a PPT presentation or get sound. Otherwise, nothing. TECHNOLOGY: Wow, you have 3 computer rooms, although there are plenty of computers I will say, with about 2 printers per room. On a busy day, you might have 10 students per room but NEVER will there be more students than computers. The computers are relatively new (2-3 years old), but since it takes 30 screens to actually get to work, meaning password upon entry screen, upon password, etc. THEN, YES another THEN, the school just instituted a PRINT SCREEN wherein it will charge you if it deems that your work is not school related. This is new as of 2013-2014, so if you are trying to print out a large document and the computer deems it not ARgosy related, there is a screen that bills your account for the printing. Yup, like a KINKO'S!!! Are you kidding? This school gets $2200 per student, per class, per semester and has the gall to charge by the page? FEEL: Once on the floors, there are flatscreens that direct you to classes and show some promise of technology but it feels like a rent-a-school. For all the dough this school takes in, they nickel and dime every student and you almost get the feel that Corey and half the other textbook writers are getting a kickback for their books that haven't been updated since Freud was psychoanalyzing. SUPPORT: All MACC and Clinical Psychology students have an assigned advisor but nearly half have never seen or heard from them. If and when you do get their office hours, it might be once a semester or once a year. FACULTY: Almost all female, almost all African American. Of the full time, on campus professors, this flops a bit to be about 70/30 Caucasian which is fine, no racism going on from the school, but that leads me to the admission process. ADMISSIONS: Argosy does not require a GRE. They require an application, GPA and an interview. The interview is basically to see if your check will clear, nothing more. Never seen anyone turned away from the school once they get to the "interview." The reason I say this is because you fill out paperwork asking if you will be needing financial aid, how much, etc. AID: I have heard nightmares. While I am a pay as you go student, there are many who are not, probably 90%. Of those, nearly 100% admit to late payments, delays in payments, and typical red tape that goes on but far worse than most schools who have it together. GRADUATION: You have to finish classes, comps, practicum and internship before "aaplyuing" for graduation. From there, they "grade audit" you to ensure you have taken all the courses but this can take weeks, even months. DIPLOMA MILL: Well, not exactly. What do you get for all your hard work over 2-3 years, plus 10 months of interning when graduation comes around? NOTHING. I graduated from one of the largest schools in the entire country and when graduation was over, my name was on a diploma, correctly, with my degree and ready for framing. AFTER GRADUATION, the school takes 4-12 weeks to mail your diploma. Yes, I have seen people who "walked" in December get a degree in May. MAY! Why does it take so long? Terribly understaffed where needed, poorly staffed where not needed. OVERALL: The only reason you go to Argosy or any CACREP accredited program is to pass the comps and the NCE. If you do not pass comps or the NCE, there is not point in applying. So what is the unpublished passing rate? 76% in 2014. Yup, 1/4 of all students will fail the NCE when they graduate at Argosy Atlanta. Argosy Universities in other states are as high as 90% or higher. Why is Atlanta lower? You can take a guess, I do not know. STUDENT BODY: The student population is shockingly African-American. It is not that this is Atlanta Metro, but you would have to be a fool to not see some kind of pattern here. About 90% or higher of all MACC program students are AA. WHY? Unsure. Caucasians make up about 5%, other races 5%. Males are non-existent and I barely saw any while I was there. During my three years I never saw a single white male in the program. Not one! That is bizarre, but this is the environment if you wanted to know and have read this far down my review. CONCLUSION: Argosy will get you there, if you can put up with the rent-a-school feel, the poor lounge, the teach it yourself attitude and teachers who are not licensed professionals who practice. I would rather learn from a LPC or NCC than a EDD who spent 3 years on some teaching discipline which is basically unrelated to diagnostic impressions of clients. I called them DR. ED's - because they were talking horses and basically sat in class waiting for you to answer a book they did not even know was required. NCE: Well, you get what you put into or out of anything. If you study hard you could probably pass the NCE without the MA in psychology but it does not work that way. Now the law requires about 3 years of classes PLUS 10 months of interning without pay. You are basically a PhD in this program after investing 4 years of your life in it. PAY: Pay is tough to average. Believe it or not, a LAPC or LPC makes a hair under a psychologists' salary. You might start at $37,000-$45,000 and finish at $75,000. Once you are a full fledged LPC, it just depends on how good you are and how many repeat clients you can take. Few therapists who are ethical can take 10 clients a day, so make that closer to 6-7. At $80 (cash only) per client, that is $500 a day. Not bad. Take out taxes and that is more like $350 a day if you have all cash paying clients. Insurance will pay you about half that when you hang a shingle or work in a group. Expect to bill at $80 and collect at $55. After taxes, about $40 per hour while in private group practice. COST: This is relatively simple to figure out. Take 60 credits and multiply that by $2300 per 3 credits. So it is 20 classes, $2300 per class, or $46,000.00. Add in 5% inflation per year and that adds about $6,000-$8000. So for $54,000 plus books (gotta have your books) add $125 per class if you like new books, $50 per class for used. Go new, you will thank me for it. That is another $2000. So, your total out of pocket cost to get you from ZERO to LAPC/NCC (if you pass all your classes, comps and the NCE that is) is $56,000.00 (plus $3000 as you haven't applied yet and tuition increases 5% a year on average) So that is it from start to finish at ARGOSY of ATLANTA. It is not pretty, often not well taught, but you can do it. Some teachers are worth every penny, but that is very few in that jar. Your friends are you colleagues and they will literally save you from quitting and help you pass comps and the NCE. Get to know your colleagues and work with them, even if you do not like them - after all, you will be being taught by them 20% of the time.
1 of 2 people found the following review helpful
Argosy--OD (Washington DC Campus)
Ed.D Organizational Leadership - November 3, 2014
The Washington, DC campus is outstanding! Excellent instructors and class mates. I am in the dissertation phase and love every moment. Thank you Dr. Klinefelter and team for your leadership and guidance.
8 of 8 people found the following review helpful
How is this place getting APA accredited? Ugh!
MA of Forensic Psychology - September 20, 2014
Argosy was such an awful experience, which was mostly due to the professors who were obviously there to collect a part time job paycheck and that was it. One professor sent out a bizarre rambling email that he was high on painkillers among other ramblings. There was no support and no mentoring. It was such a negative experience compared to my undergrad experience. I'd never consider Argosy for a doctoral program. Among the policies on top of policies that change with the winds, the two worst? The entire forensic psychology program was changed without a word of it to students. The treatment and assessment programs were merged together. There were so many assessment courses, I almost quit. Secondly, they do not refund or credit you if you have a medical emergency and are hospitalized while in the middle of a class. They suggest appealing the policy and trying to get your money back. This hope is dismal at best. And, this is the place teaching me ethics? What a big fat joke. Stealing from sick people is wrong.
7 of 7 people found the following review helpful
should have just went to a REAL school
Psych - September 17, 2014
I have attended this school for a year now. It seems like they only answer the questions that they want to answer, rather than the ones I am asking. With all the money that I am spending for this school for one year, I could have put into a local college for 2. It's sad these are supposed to be "college level" classes, yet a family member who's only 8 can do my work with ease. I spend no time researching and doing my essays, yet pass with flying colors, unless it's late. THIS COLLEGE IS A SCAM. I'm stuck here until graduation and have no clue what I should do. You are better off buying a brand new sports car than going here, after all, the sports car costs less! NEVER AGAIN!
10 of 11 people found the following review helpful
Critical thinkers only apply
MA of Forensic Psychology - August 21, 2014
I already had a graduate degree before I enrolled in the MAFP program. I wanted to further my knowledge. If you do your research, an MA in Forensic Psychology does little but enhance your credentials for a job you may already have in the field. This can mean understanding the interaction of psychology and the law and legal precedents that impact the field. This said I left the program with an intense understanding of the nexus between psychology and the law. One of my colleagues who is Harvard educated was amazed at how much I got out of the program. The majority of the complaints I see here seem to be based on consumerist expectations and not the investment in knowledge building. Graduate school is not a space for hand holding. You do most of your work in the library and research. When I was working on my PHD, our classes essentially discussed our research and got feedback. Not every professor is stellar. I went to a world class research institution and studied / worked with a famous scholar who was the WORST professor ever and I had left my life to move out of state. Grad school isn't for everyone and more often than not the student weeds himself out. The faculty that taught me in this program were stellar. I researched them all and made my decisions based on their work. Not all were stellar but as a professional I wrote them outside the context of the assignments to gain knowledge they were excited to impart. I was was probably the jerk in the program that reported plagiarism because I wanted this MA to at least mean something. You get what you invest in the program and yourself.
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