Argosy University

Let's so hope they do so that no more students will get ripped off.

SF BAY AREA CAMPUS is HORRIBLE!!!!! Everything they say about For Profit schools is true. DO NOT ATTEND ARGOSY! Attend a real university. This place is sub par. It charges USC tuition but gives you a heald business college education.

Argosy just decreased adjunct faculty pay by $1,000 for a 3 hour credit course on line.  Faculty were just advised today. No explanation of who made this decision, or why. So, those faculty making $2,700 are now making $1,800. These are Ph.Ds making about $12 an hour.

Faculy were told that other institutions pay less. I guess they researched only those that pay less and ignored those that paid more.

It is corporate greed.  And it is true faculty are afraid of administration for fear of being fired.

Now, since the huge pay cut, without any explanation to adjunct faculty or other faculty, many Ph.D.s are going to leave; those that stay will lose motivation and do poor teaching. But as long at the corporation makes money, and profits, it is all ok - is any greed okay?  Reminds me of the beginning of managed care in the medical business - look at what has happened with medical care?  Sad, so sad!

AGROSY UNIVERSITY
1515 Central Parkway  Eagan, MN 55121
(651) 846-2882
(952) 656-5086

Harasses people and potential customers by continuously calling every 2 hours.
Let this be a warning to everyone!!!!!!!!!

Totally pleased with the school even won a laptop at New Year raffle!!!

please do NOT ever attend this school. this school is a FRAUD! it is absolutely unprofessional. go to a REAL university where they take you more seriously. this school is under investigation for fraud so please reconsider your opinions about attending this school. I have had the worst experience at argosy (san francisco bay area). many other students are filing complaints against the staff.

Your insight into the Argosy U degree mill sounds correct
to me my grades were not bad, but myself included did not
wish to prepare for GRE's. you hit the nail on the head.
Good luck to you and Your words are vary powerful. If only this would sink into my mind. Believe this you speak
the truth, you know the truth when you hear it. 

Thank you. I will research the possibilities of a lawsuit 

I am sorry to hear that you are having so many problems, I do not like this school either, but at least I do not have to leave the country. Good luck to you and I hope that you find at least one person who can guide you. It will definitely not be at Argosy

Thank you for the information, I will look into it.

I agree! this school is not worth all of the money that we have paid. And as far as the teachers are concerned,they are very obstinate, inflexible and uncaring

Thank you for the honest feedback. I wish that I would have read all of the comments here before signing up for this money pit

Teachers there are very obstinate, inflexible and uncaring.There is no support. 
Teachers grade students low in order to   force students to retake the course.

Hello,

The same thing happen to my sister but at a different college.  You need to call back, stay professional and ask to speak to the dean or request the dean of affairs address submit an appeal and also call the department that just released your money, FAFSA and find out what else can you do.  My sister submitted an appeal and was back in school within the month.  THey had to correct her stipend and she is fine.

As long as they aren't in a position to continue to hurt someone, it is fine!  CLOSE THEM DOWN!!!!

I am complaining of the unfairness and unjust system of Argosy. I am an online student, and have been for three years, then as of today find out they have kicked me out of school for what??? I wasn't notified before today, I had been active in my class as of this past Tuesday, then Wednesday I didn't have access(thought it was maybe just my computer) so I blue it off. Then I tried again Wednesday no access. Called last night spoke to tech support and they tell me I was withdrawn!!! FOR WHAT!!!!! spoke to 3 different academic counselors with 3 different stories. Spoke to a academic manager who totally contradicted what her colleagues just told me and still didn't have a good reason for this! They just got paid for my new semester, keeping my stipend and the rest of the 15,0000 they just received on my behalf and kicking me to the curb. For three years never had this problem and the fact the lady told me no reason and she wasn't reinstating me HURTS!!!!!!! and I AM PISSED!!! I'm not a teen, I am a full grown woman with a family  & this is the worst!!!!! WTH!!!!!!! Can anyone give me a name and number to an advocate lawyer?? I need to get in school again and they DON'T deserve a penny!!!!

What are you referring to? I'm a grad student at Arg. Seattle, 2nd yr. Is there a chance AU will get shut down?

Which campus are you referring to? I'm enrolled at Argosy 2nd yr. but thinking "could my classes matriculate?"

I went to the Sarasota Campus and St Petersburg College took my credits from Argosy.  I don't understand why everyone is saying the credits don't transfer?

You are a horrible speller. I can see why you might have had educational difficulty.

If ARGOSY gets CLOSED down AND YOUR ARE ENROLLED and YOU DO NOT GET YOUR DEGREE BEFORE THEY ARE CLOSED. 

1. YOUR STUDENT LOANS THERE WILL BE CANCELLED AS SCHOOL RELATED DISCHARGE....

LETS stop complaining and put this into action!!!

Can ANYONE say CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT waiting to happen....... only a matter of time and those 7.5 BILLION THEY MADE will go where it belongs.... BACK TO THE GOVERNMENT.  Marilyn sounds like she WORKS for EDMC.... wife perhaps of the President.... yeah right... more like OWNER OF EDMC

Beware and DO UR RESEARCH.. I tried to post links to mine but couldnt.  This school and others is owned by EDMC, they are TRADED on the NASDAQ.  The officer on the EDMC website .... very questionable since the receptionist has not heard of them... could they be Bought?  Maybe.... my ex did so (bought officers pics,profiles,names) for the officers of his company from the internet.

This is one of many for profit schools that the GOVERNMENT is cracking down on for students leaving with HIGH DEBT . If they have to take FEDERAL AID away to keep them from doing scrupulous things...SO BE IT and there graduation RATIO is not published because WHY?  I would be curious to see how many actually start,graduate and how much debt they have when they do.

They get you for 2 classes in the beginning for some enrollment BS.... ok people with degree need to go through BS entrance classes...shoulda known was a $cam to it all then....

They will keep changing your schedule, advisors, etc and keep adding more classes that you do not need to take.  One lady was like well you know your stuff... I admit ... I was helping her do her job.  Dont be scammed, follow up and check up on the person who seems to be wanting to help you the most.  I had to delete my number from my profile because they had me on a dialer...how annoying.  BEWARE BEWARE BEWARE.. 

If you think I am a disgrutled student ..NOT I HATE FOR PEOPLE TO BE MADE A FOOL AND  TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF.  JUST GOOGLE THE FOLLOWING PHRASES AND YOU WILL SEE FOR YOURSELF:

EDMC
EDMC ABOUT
EDMC NASDAQ
GOVERNMENT FOR PROFIT SCHOOL JUNE 2011
ARGOSY COMPLAINTS
ARGOSY GRAUDATION RATE
EDMC PRESIDENT
EDMC CHANCELLOR
FORBES STUDENT DEBT

This school is a joke. They grade students low  in order to fail them so that you are forced to retake the course. Then if you fail too much you are kicked out and have spent your money for nothing. They don't care about their students, they don't care about their staff. Teachers are either under worked or over worked. Students are over worked and then failed on bogus grades regardless of progress and knowledge. 

I was a prof there for 3 years. Yes, It is the WORST. I know it as an insider. Seven reasons you should spend your money alsewhere:

1)They don't care for their profs or their students. 
2)They are NOT accredited by WASC (very important)
3)A few profs (nepotism here)teach 7 courses per term ==> they don't even read students' papers, not fair to students. 
4)They'll take anybody who breathes, as long as they can pay.
5) They are very disorganized and very inefficient.
6) It's a money making machine.
7) Your degree will not get too far. 

Spend your money elsewhere. It's not worth it. 
 

Don't do it! It is worst at the Sarasota Campus all they want is money just as the others.

 For all of you that state this school is not APA accredited I found that it is as well as the information below.
	  	
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225 N. Michigan Ave
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I worked for Argosy University at their Dallas campus. All I can say is that place sucks. That was perhaps the worse job I've ever had. It's full of delusional wannabes. Their degree costs around 150 grand and is not even APA accredited. Their Forensic Psychology degree program doesnt even allow you to become a Forensic psychologist. Hands down this place is crap.

There are a couple of the recruiters (Assistant Director of Admissions) who are so extremely weird.

Anyway trust me you are better off at a different school.

 Maybe you had a good experience....but it seems that the majority of people voicing their opinion here did not. In fact it looks like about 80% or so of the people on this  review page had a bad experience at Argosy. Unacceptable. I tried the on-line program, and was lied to.       Prospective students are told that they will have a personal academic advisor and student support    anytime they need it, from admissions to graduation,  and are told they will   have access to a 24 hour student help desk,.. and are told that certain programs are accredited ..when they are not, and are also told they will be able to take a break between 7.5 week sessions, when clearly you can't. I also consulted my advisor  and was told what material to know for an assessment quiz...and when I viewed the quiz...more than half of the questions related to material I'd never   seen before. I called/e-mailed the "24" help desk for assistance...guess how long they took to get back to me..  1 WEEK?!...how was that supposed to help me with good timely submission of my assignments.     The so-called assistant director of admissions people work on commission (illegal)...they don't care    whether you're prepared   for class, all they want is to make their sales quotas so they  can keep their jobs/benefits and receive their regular paychecks. A  used car salesman is    a perfect fit for  this position    When u say students have to take responsibility for their own education...then why does the school greatly advertise student support     ( from admissions to graduation)...when the school is clearly independent    study. And how many people  got their hopes up to go back to school...only to find out too late they've been hoodwinked, and are now worse off than when they started. 

Did you find it difficult to pay for higher education and do the hard work simultaneously?  Or did you expect to pay for your degree and not do the hard work? 

It sounds like there is so much more to it.

I recently graduated with a BA in Psychology at Argosy.  My teachers were all helpful and caring. I still keep in touch with some of them.  I am currently pursuing a master's in counseling at Argosy and I have talented and caring teachers again.  I take full responsibility for my education and I go above and beyond duty.   I believe that at some point the student need to be responsible for his/her attitude towards his/her education.  I have met students in the PSY program who are clearly not suited for the helping profession.  I wonder if some of the former students who posted their negative experiences from Argosy University are negative people. 

Another UoP in the making. I hate this school.

To whom it may concern: 

IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE THIRTEENTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FL

CASE NO.:  09 11228
DIVISION    K

CASEY HAMEL,  
Plaintiff, 	

v.
								
EDUCATION MANAGEMENT, LLC a wholly-owned subsidiary of EDUCATION MANAGEMENT HOLDINGS, LLC,
which is wholly-owned by EDUCATION MANAGEMENT CORPORATION; ARGOSY UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA, INC.; ARGOSY EDUCATION GROUP, INC.; 

MELANIE STORMS, Psy.D; JAMES HARLOW, Psy.D; JEANNE PETERSON, Psy.D; KATHIE BATES, Ph.D;
KATHERINE McKay, Ph.D; KRISTEN HUDACEK, Psy.D; CRAIG SWENSON, Ph.D; and MICHAEL FALOTICO, Psy.D.
Defendants.

From:  The Hamel Family
Although we remain convinced that our daughter was not treated fairly by Argosy University Tampa, after considerable time, expense, and effort, we have been unable to document or uncover any pattern of abuse of students or other wrongful conduct on the part of the Tampa campus or the University as a whole.  Although our daughter's experience was not a positive one, it appears that her experience was not typical, and we apologize if we dissuaded any potential students from considering Argosy based on our postings to this site.

My experience with Argosy-Dallas, in the community counseling program, has been beyond unpleasant and disappointing.  The lack of professionalism and responsiveness is unacceptable.  The majority of administrators are pompous, without merit.  The coursework is unchallenging.  I had to constantly fight the urge to correct the misinformation and mispronunciations of one particular professor.  This same professor has an superiority complex and becomes passive-aggressive when asked a simple clarifying question.  The department chair is a pompous a _ _ who does not have the character to do handle student grievances.  Argosy-Dallas has been an extremely negative and unfruitful experience.  I will be transferring to a university with a positive reputaion.

Hello everyone. Unlike everyone else, I am actually posting with my real first name. I recently passed by comps in the EDDCP program at Argosy Inland Empire. The journey here at Argosy has been incredibly difficult but that is expected since it is a doctorate degree. I have family and friends that attend other private and state universities that share the same complaints like many of the ones posted in this site. I truly don't understand the bitterness of students that demand their hands to be held while they pursue a graduate degree. IT IS NOT MEANT TO BE EASY! Otherwise, everyone would have a graduate degree. I can only speak for myself in saying that the program was tough but I was tougher and I have made it through. Yes, there were a few headbutts with some professors but overall, the experience was great. I am in the dissertation phase now and I expect to finish in about 9 months. I hope this story helps clear up any misunderstandings about Argosy.

Argosy is under investigation by the DOE for fraud.  Investors have filled class action suit to get back the loss of their stocks.  This university is in alot of trouble.

I had simillar experience with you CURRENT STUDENT in my ARgosy school. What you undergo is very frustrating. When I was reading your review, it was like I was rexperiencing all that trauma (LOL) i had when I was searching alone in a foreign country a site in order to develop my own practicum. And yes, I agree that they do not speak clearly regarding practicum process before you are enrolled in the school! Besides the nightmare of finding a practica though, I am very satisfied with the training I received from Argosy. Try to speak with professors who know you and can help you with this matter and push push push a lot the staff from training department cuz whatever they promise if you do not push them your job will not be done! At least, that's what I did with my training dept. Wish you GOOD LUCK and STAY CALM & POSITIVE :)

MY COMMENT: PLEASE, RUN, RUN, RUN DO NOT GET HURT!!THESE PEOPLE ARE ROOTHLESS!

Obviously, this is just the South, so just imagine how many non-profit schools across the country offer online courses and/or programs.

I AM A CURRENT GRAD STUDENT IN ONE OF THE ARGOSIES THAT THEIR PROGRAMES ARE ACCREDITED FROM APA! FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR HEALTH AND YOUR PARENT'S, WHO MAY PAY A VAST AMOUNT OF FEES TO THIS COMPANY, PLEASE STAY AWAY FROM IT!

ESPECIALLY, IF YOU ARE AN INTERNATIONAL STUDENT AND PLAN TO STUDY AT THIS SCHOOL, BE AWARE THAT THERE ARE STUDENTS WHO CAN NOT SECURE A PRACTICUM ON THE 2ND YEAR OF THEIR STUDIES BECAUSE OF THE BIG COMPETITION TO FIND A PLACEMENT AND CUZ SOME SITES REQUIRE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS (IF YOU R NOT US CITIZEN IT 'S DIFFICULT TO OBTAIN ONE W THE RECENT LAW). HOWEVER, ON THEIR CONTRACTS THEY DON'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE PRACTICUM PROCESS EXCEPT OF THIS VAGUE STATEMENT :"I UNDERSTAND MY GRADUATION DATE IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE DEPENDING ON THE TIMELY COMPLETION OF ALL PROGRAME REQUIREMENTS".

IN MY CASE, I HAVE TO ABANDON THE UNITED STATES IN CASE I DON T SECURE A PRACTICUM, CUZ I HAVE TO BE A FULL-TIME STUDENT ON MY VISA. SINCE I HAVE JUST 4 CLASSES REMAINED FOR THE COMPLETION OF MY MASTER, I CAN NOT CONTINUE MY STUDIES THIS YEAR (2ND AND LAST ONE) WITHOUT A PRACTICUM. THIS MEANS THAT ARGOSY INTERRUPTS MY STUDIES! ALTHOUGH, I ASKED MANY QUESTIONS ESPECIALLY ABOUT PRACTICUM BEFORE I SIGNED THEIR CONTRACT AND BEFORE TO TAKE SUCH A BIG DESICION TO COME FROM ANOTHER CONTINENT TO THIS SCHOOL, NO ARGOSY INFORMED ME ABOUT THESE POSSIBILITIES!

IN ACCORDANCE, THEY DIDN'T TAKE ANY RESPONSIBILITY ABOUT A PRACTICUM OFFER THAT I LOST CUZ THEY DIDN'T KNOW UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES THEIR FOREIGN STUDENTS CAN OBTAIN SSN WHICH WAS REQUIRED FROM THE PRACTICUM SITE THAT I GOT THE OFFER. THEY WERE GIVING ME WRONG INFO AND THEN I FOUND OUT BY MYSELF THE LAWS AND RULES FOR OBTAINING SSN BUT IT WAS TOO LATE. 

I WISH NO ONE TO HAVE SUCH AN ACADEMIC EXPERIENCE AS MINE.  ARGOSY FOR ME, MY PEOPLE AND MY PARENTS WHO ARE SO FAR AWAY AND CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO HELP, IS A REAL NIGHTMARE! WORSEN THAN CANCER!

There's about 80 reviews of the school here,  with I'd say about 95%    being pretty harshly negative. Not a lot of gray area here. Is there a pattern here?! Any mildly educated person would say yes. Bottom line? This isn't a real school. This is a"FOR-PROFIT" enterprise, a business first ( not an educational institution) getting your money,    marketing and sales is their highest priority, and they're legally and politically  good at it?! That's where they  place their efforts. If they placed their efforts in the classroom, there wouldn't be so many complaints about incompetent instruction, and student advising , etc. they don't care about that part of their  program. Probably any positive comment comes from an Argosy employee. When the school has enough of your money...they'll fail or dismiss you, and if you do make it through to graduation..employers will probably find your degree worthless.  A recent review found Argosy and Western Governers University the bottom 5 in on-line schools. Need I say more

I agree! I think you made a wise decision not going to this college. I have heard many, many terrible things about Argosy. If at all possible, try to go to a state university in your state. You will get a better education at a fraction of the cost of Argosy.

@Dreamer you have the right decision early on, thank God you didn't sign up for anything. Keep searching and good luck with your education endeavors!

I have read every review on here and I appreciate everyone's reviews. I was actually in the process of applying to the Dallas location and now I have definitely changed my mind. My recruiter has told me many of the similar things I have read on here about how great the professors are and other good stuff. I have come across some helpful articles about 19 individuals who are suing Argosy in Dallas that have help me come to my final decision of not attending. Thank you for all of your helpful comments.

Watch Out!!!!!!

A former student on January 21, 2010 wrote this:

“I graduated from Argosy University. I have applied for jobs and no one recognizes this university. I paid $60,000+ for my education and the degree is nothing but worthless paper. I can not transfer my credits to other universities because they do not recognize Argosy as university but a corporation which is selling degrees. Please run as fas as you can and do not pay your money to this corporation.”

Here is a cold slap in the face of financial reality.
That would probably be:

Loan amount: $60,000
Interest rate: 6.5%
Re-payment: 120 months
Monthly Payment: $682
Interest paid: $21,755
Total Pay-Off: $81,755

Currently, we are at all time highs in student loan defaults. This is because they seem not to understand the real total costs. It can be worse than this. Some of you owe much more than $60,000. However, I would say that if you can go to a public university you will be able to complete your education for a tiny fraction of this total.
Think it over well before making a terrible mistake with your life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am having serious problems with the Phoenix, AZ campus.  Multiple times I've had problems with student services screwing up my classes, with financial aid not disclosing everything about the cost of tuition, and with now transferring out of Argosy.  The reason why Argosy sets up their undergrad year round and in a quarter structure is because it enables them to charge more for tuition, and it prevents you from being able to transfer out of Argosy because your available financial aid is eaten up by them.  If you have a balance with Argosy, they will prevent you from getting official transcripts, and they will not disclose that ahead of time.  They will not disclose that the actual cost will take up all your financial aid, and you will be forced to either apply for loans or pay out of pocket.  The cost of tuition is so much higher than ASU and the summer cost at Argosy so high, it eats away your available amount for fall should you transfer out of Argosy.  This year around structure benefits Argosy because it limits your available funds to attend other schools, and it allows them to charge more, and also hold your transcripts hostage should you try to leave.
They will NEVER disclose any of this up front.
Like the former admissions counselor said, they deceive you and are not honest about how their cost and structure might hurt you in the future.

Argosy Atlanta is the GHETTO Argosy! Professors scream and yell at students. Dissertation phase is a joke! Chairs stall students to try and keep them paying money. Faculty take vacations whenever they want. So if you pay your tuition and then want to submit your dissertation for review, you may get a response that your chair is on vacation for 2 weeks and not reading any emails!
It would be very difficult to find any Argosy Atlanta student who would say good things about the school. I have heard that Argosy in Sarasota is MUCH better. Many Atlanta residents are transferring to Sarasota.

I went through the medical assisting program at the MN campus.  I graduated nearly 3 years ago and never found a job.  I am employed, but it is a retail job I have held for 10 years, and I am completely miserable.  They offer career counciling, which really helped build my interview skills but to no avail.
The only good that came from this expensive mistake (and it WAS a mistake) was that I pulled a decent GPA, which was able to offset my less than spectacular high school performance, and 14 (out of 60) credits transferred.
Still, this school is not worth it.  On the rare chance that I have a job interview, I find that many employers haven't even heard of this school!

I notice that most of the ire for this school is directed at their graduate and online programs.  As such, I want to emphasize that I was an undergrad student, I went to the physical campus for my education, and am getting about the same result.

@David that is very true. Alot of people are turning to for-profit schools for an easy way out. If you can't ace the GRE, LSAT, or GMAT then graduate-level isn't for you. There are hundreds of better colleges and universities out there. Instead of you jumping on the first school you see, take time to do research. Call around to other schools to see what credentials are required, what are the retention rates, will you get a fellowship, assistantship, stipends, is the curriculum rigorous, is the school reputable, what are my career options, can you actually get a job with this degree on a resume', there are a lot of things to think about here. I'm tired of everyone saying:Oh this was the only option or the only school I could attend, I have young kids at home, I work 12 hour shifts, etc. At the same time I'm not saying online schools are bad(because they are not)it's just that they are better schools out there for you to choose from. I want you to think about it, the ones that say this was my only option what made it your only option? Community/junior colleges are offering evening, weekend, and also online classes for people who haven't yet completed an associates and/or a bachelors degree. But, for those looking to obtain a masters or higher whats wrong with looking into state schools and universities or private graduate schools? People wake up & open your eyes get with the program, this is your life, your future please don't mess it up. I don't know you all but, I wouldn't refer my worst enemy to one of these crappy schools. I want you all to succeed in life and make a better life for yourselves. Please don't sell yourselves short, look for a better way out.

It is amazing how so many get pulled into this scam.  Diploma mills are on the rise, especially with the popularity of the internet.  My advice to all that wish to attend graduate school, particularly a doctoral program, is to get good undergraduate grades, study hard for the GMAT/GRE, get some research experience, research your options, and then apply to well-respected programs.  I know that programs like these give some of us "hope" that we can become a "doctor" the easy way, skip the GRE, etc., but guess what, becoming a doctor is hard work.  It isn't meant to be easy.  Receiving a graduate degree takes years of hard work, ambition, and sacrifice.  The idea is to become an expert in your filed, and the easy route won't get you there.

Bottom line: Argosy and it's peers are nothing more than diploma mills.  Why not attend a public or private research university?  If your answer includes: its too hard, I don' t wan't to study for the GRE, I can't get in, etc.  than maybe you aren't cut out for graduate level work.  If state schools won't accept you but Argosy will, what does that tell you?  In the end, your diploma (if you are one of the few to complete the program) won't be worth the paper it is printed on.  Your degree is only worth as much as the respect of the university it came from.

There was a point I considered the Argosy route.  Like many (probably a few reading this) I didn't have the grades to apply, I was terrified of the GRE, and didn't believe I could succeed in a competitive program.  But one day I realized I was making a choice that would predict my future, and I didn't want a $100,000 piece of paper, I wanted to "earn" the right to be a doctor.  So I pulled up my GPA, studied hard for the GRE, got some research experience, and applied to a prestigious doctoral program - and guess what -  I got accepted with full tuition reimbursement and a nice assistantship stipend.  It can happen - if you want it bad enough and are willing to work hard for it.  In the end, nothing worth much isn't earned.

Watch Out!!!!!!

A former student on January 21, 2010 wrote this:

“I graduated from Argosy University. I have applied for jobs and no one recognizes this university. I paid $60,000+ for my education and the degree is nothing but worthless paper. I can not transfer my credits to other universities because they do not recognize Argosy as university but a corporation which is selling degrees. Please run as fas as you can and do not pay your money to this corporation.”

Here is a cold slap in the face of financial reality.
That would probably be:

Loan amount: $60,000
Interest rate:  6.5%
Re-payment: 120 months
Monthly Payment: $682
Interest paid: $21,755
Total Pay-Off: $81,755

Currently, we are at all time highs in student loan defaults. This is because they seem not to understand the real total costs. It can be worse than this. Some of you owe much more than $60,000. However, I would say that if you can go to a public university you will be able to complete your education for a tiny fraction of this total.
Think it over well before making a terrible mistake with your life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not sure where you are geting that all of these people are upset because they are getting into trouble over late assignments.  Lawsuits don't happen over late assignments.  I think you should read all of these before issuing your statements.  Your right you are no longer in High School and that means researching all issues and reading everything.

From what I have read here most of the complaining is about late paper work, such as assignments turned in late,
 If you turnyour assignments in late isn't that your fault? When do you take responsibility for your own issues? If you are here, that means you are no longer in High School. Get over yourselves and do the work you are assigned to do, and if you are late, then take responsibility for it unless you have a good excuse for being late. I have been enrolled for a year now and have had a great experience with this school.

Continued....
The place is a nightmare to work for. Fortunately, I was able to escape. There are many people there who have nowhere else to go, they are stuck. I tried to contact the accrediting body, the Higher Learning Commission, North Central Association about Argosy when I was working there to tell them about these horrors, however they would not accept anonymous complaints (I hid my identity since I was still there). I have since made a written complaint. I urge anyone who has worked there or was a victim of Argosy to write the North Central Association. By the way, if you have yet to request info about Argosy, I would advise you against it. Once they have your information, they will relentlessly pursue you with unending phone calls and e-mails. Save yourself the aggrevation!

I am a former "ADA" (Assistant Director of Admissions) at Argosy Online, and even though I could re-tell horror after horror about that place, I can only stomach a couple. First, just the admissions title is meant to deliberately deceive. The university uses the title "ADA" or Assistant Director of Admissions for their admissions officers because they want the unsuspecting prospects to think they are talking with someone in charge, someone at the top of the admissions department. The admissions officers are trained to say they are THE Assistant Director of Admissions and would help them. What the prospect doesn't realize is there are about 200 or so Assistant Directors of Admissions "on the floor". The floor is Argosy's in house term for call center, a huge phone room with a couple hundred ADAs continuously calling leads. The ADAs, most of whom are under the gun daily to produce applications and get students registered for classes, are just regular people trying to bring home a paycheck. Unfortunately, their paychecks are totally determined by the numbers they produce, and many ADAs are unable to bring in the requisite numbers. Pay is determined by the "Matrix", a scale which dictates raises or decreases in "salary". I use the term salary loosely since the ADAs are actually on a masked commission. The university says that there are also other determining factors, (how good your speech comes across, a "Quality Conversation"), but the bottom line is how many students you sit (how many people you can get into class). Based on my understanding, colleges cannot have admissions people paid on a commission basis; however, Argosy gets around it with the Matrix... believe me, the admissions people are definately on a commission. Since the "Second Directors" (the Assistant Directors' of Admissions immediate supervisors) are all competing to bring in new students, the best leads are given to a few people whom they like, the favored ADAs. So, a few ADAs make good money based on the Matrix, although most ADAs get pay reductions. During the time I worked there (about 6 months) I saw many ADAs fired for lack of production. They struggled while the few favored ADAs got all the good leads and on-line applications.

I would NEVER return to Argosy university. I was intentionally mislead and they took loans out in my name after the financial advisor told me "i would have no out of pocket expenses" and after one session I have student loans exceeding $2,200.00 

I thought it was suspicious that the Asst Director of Admissions would call up to 15x daily (no exageration) until i finally answered and this lasted about two weeks. I should of realized then that if that had that much time on their hands, their are looking for financial benefits, not students education. I WOULD NOT GIVE A DIME TO THIS UNIVERSITY.... SERIOUSLY!!!

I am in the Master's program in forensic psychology after getting my bachelor's from a respectable traditional school. Basically my job doesn't allow me to go back to a traditional school at this time so I'm getting my Master's here and then hopefully go back to a traditional school for my doctorate. But after reading all the comments, I've experienced both at traditional schools, education anywhere is what you make of it. My city school had professors that cared about you and others that just read power point slides to you, some thought they were God's gift to teaching and the financial aid sucked so that you wound up paying for most of it out of pocket. My husband went to a private college and his course work was so damn easy it was absurd. My point being that if this is your only option make the best of it. Yeah its expensive and you'll have teachers that suck but thats in every school. Do some research know what you're getting into and make an intelligent decision not based on the comments here because its based on other's personal experience not your own.

Dear Lucydiva19 - you too may want to do some research of your own.  NOT ALL of the campuses are APA certified.  In fact the majority of them are not.  I am glad that you are having a good experience but there are many who are not as well as many lawsuits being filed.  I wish you the best but recommend that you not jump to conclusions.

There are several lawsuits going on right now against Argosy.  If you are looking at something like this, you can do an online search.  Here are some that have been reported on this site: 

Florida - Mager & Mager 954-763-2800 Scott Mager Esq. magerlawyers.com 

Tampa -  cometogether@tampastudents.net. Check out my website at tampastudents.net 

Seattle - Wershow & Ritter 206-223-0868 Matt King Esq.

So just how do you get your maony back? The rip off that is happening here makes me wonder, Is there a law suit out there waiting for us to join in?

This school was a really sad discovery for me.  I was excited but after 2 semesters I have left the program.  The staff had to much turnover.  I was told that they were APA certified and they were not, I was lied to about so many things.  Save your money and go to a real school.

The turnover was astronomical, they are not accreditited like they had told me they were, arrogant, if you have the ability i'd get out now.

They told me that they had APA accredation and they were well recognized. Yes they are well-recognized from selling degrees and telling lies. They are not APA accredited and their degrees are worthless. I realized it after being there for two semesters. I can not transfer those credits to any other university because no one recognize Argosy as a higher educational institution but a business entity which makes money by selling degrees. 

If you value your money, education and respect your intellectual standing, stay away from these people.

I agree with the comment above regarding Argosy's racist practice. I am yet to see a black President, a black executive Vice President, a black Dean, or any other race but white at the top level. I was told that they do not allow black or any other race but white in those positions. This may be accurate analysis of Argosy. Sad...very sad..

I graduated from Argosy University. I have applied for jobs and no one recognizes this university. I paid $60,000+ for my education and the degree is nothing but worthless paper. I can not transfer my credits to other universities because they do not recognize Argosy as university but a corporation which is selling degrees. Please run as fas as you can and do not pay your money to this corporation.

I left Argosy due to the lies.  None of my credits transferred and I had to start all over.  I was doing an online search for one of my former professors since I had heard she left Argosy.  She doesn't even list Argosy on her Resume.  She was there for 4 years, was the advisor for many and was well liked by the students.  I find it interesting that she doesn't list this on her resume.  Makes you think.

Thank You to everyone who posted here. I am cancelling my interview now.

It's true, this school really is that bad! Argosy University enrollment must be taking a beating with all of the negative publicity coming out on this school regarding several nation-wide lawsuits, over-priced tuition, lack of APA accreditation, low teaching standards, lack of student placement for internships, practicum's, and 100% lack of job placement. Without APA behind you in your degree, you will not have access to state and federal jobs OR highly competitive positions within any private practice. By attending this school, your degree and pocketbook will render you unhireable but also very broke!

This school is nothing but a bunch of liars and cheats.  When I inquired about this school I got an immediate response and I thought wow.  I asked about APA accreditation and was told they have it.  I was told that there was low staff turnover, I was told that as a working adult I would be able to take many of my courses online.  After 2 sessions I've learned that they are NOT APA accredited the staff turnover is actually something that happens often and that the majority of my classes are not online.  I'm looking for a new school now.

The experience at Argosy, Tampa is not something I would wish on anyone. Argosy is a business...first, second, last! Several people commented their desire to unite. PLEASE contact me at cometogether@tampastudents.net. Check out my website at tampastudents.net. This website was created to bring disenfranchised students together for some action. I too know Casey Hamel and many other students whose lives were ruined by Argosy, Tampa. It is time to stop these people!

Argosy is a JOKE...All they want is your money. Their executives pay is tied to the bottom line..how much money the get from students. It is not a university by any standard. It is a corporation selling degree. If you can pay for it, they will give it to you. Education is not their mission. Making money for the stock holders is. They mostly focus on balck men and women as they are working class citizens and AU keep them enrolled in weekend classes just to keep them in their system as long as possible. Students are cash cow. Trust me, all they care is your money. Run Run Run as far as you can and go to a school that value education. NOT your money..

Friends,
With all honesty, Argosy University’s hiring policy is nothing but an indication of racism. Argosy University has nineteen campuses and each one of those campuses’ President is white. That Campuses' Presidents report to two regional Vice Presidents. They are white. Those two white regional Vice President report to Argosy President who is white. The President reports to CEO who is white. Argosy University has a white Vice President for Student Affairs who is over all the nineteen campuses. Argosy University has two white regional Vice Presidents for Finance that monitor all the financial affairs at the campuses level. There is not even one black or other race allowed at the higher level of Argosy’s management team. 
Please do your research and you will find out that they are racist.

I would like to comment on some of the above comments.  While I disagree with the racist statements about Argosy, all I can truely say is that I never experenced or saw anything like that on the Seattle Campus.  

As far as the APA accrediation issue I too was told that they were accredited by the Recruiter and found out 1.5 years into my program that they were not.  Then found out that the APA does not certify any MA programs only doctoral programs. - I received that information directly from the APA. -  

I do agree that you will get out what you put into your education but I am Suing the school because they failed me.  I worked extremely hard during my program, maintaining a family, full time work status and excellent grades 3.98 - only to fail the PCE because my 2 panel members determined that I did not deserve to pass even though my grades and supervisor reviews were fantastic!!  

I have also found out that this is an issue for which the school is being sued by many students and at 4 differnt campus locations as well as other lawsuits.  

While I cannot say that all campus' have issues because I have not attended them, I do recommend that you do your research before attending any campus of this school.

I cannot recommend this school to anyone.

Whoever is spouting that Argosy is APA accredited is wrong.  It is HLC - Higher Learning Commission accredited, so you are WAY off base there.  If it were APA accredited, this board would not exist.

RACIST?

Honestly, we have an African American President, almost every professional sport is African American majority, the race itself with eclipse WHITES within 20 years and still the racism thing?  Really?

I don't remember being asked if I was White or Black on my application.  If anything it was optional.

If Argosy was SMART business-wise, they would want MORE minorities to attend, not less.  What do they have to gain by being a "racist" school.  What emperical evidence do you have for such an accusation?  

I am sure more WHITES were kicked out than BLACKS, since more WHITES attend - based on your assertions.  

Once you get over the fact that not every WHITE person is out to get you, you will succeed in this world, like Chief Justices of the Supreme Court, the President, Coaches and players in the NFL, RAP artists, etc. etc.  Quite honestly, I think the opportunities are greater in the future for BLACKS, not WHITES.

Seems like lots of hatred, but not specifics.  There are no guarantees in life, even while attending brick and mortar schools.  Law schools do not tell you that if you fail the bar, you have nothing you can do with your $85,000.00 degree - I know, I failed.  So do about 30-50% of first time test takers.  Pick yourself up, and do it again.  My brother attended MED SCHOOL.  His burden was $265,000.00 and he failed the boards 3 times.  THEN HE PASSED!  Nothing in life is easy my friends.

I agree with those who say you get what you put in.  If you become the squeaky wheel, expect attention.  If you don't do the work, or cannot commit $ wise or time wise, then you should not embark on said career path.

That being said...........I am debating to enroll in 2010.  They talk a good game, but there is little history in the Forensic Psychology program.  Anyone on here have thoughts on this program????

Argosy University is racist. Just take a look at the top executives at Argosy Univeristy. Do you see any other race but white?? What does it tell you? From their CEO to their campus Presidents are all white. They do not like any other race but white.

My Mom has been exploited by Argosy.  I can't comment on the details because the matter is not yet resolved.  Beware the expedient nature of the approval process for financial aid.

To Finally a Lawsuit:  if the reasons for your discharge were not appropriate you should contact Ms. Hamel's attorney to see if you have a case.  The more people filing these the more the school will think twice about doing this to others.

I attended school with Casey Hamel. I didn't know her personally but she was a exceptional student. I am so happy to hear she filed a lawsuit. 
I also experienced professionalism by my advisor Dr. H. as well as Dr. P. 
I paid over 2,500. for one class (taught by an older professor) that was so unstructured it was like play time. We were dismissed almost an hr. early each class and he never had time to answer any questions outside class time.
A few professors seemed as if they were the one who needed therapy. It was quiet the circus!
I witnessed students being treated poorly and heard many horror stories. 
I was given rave reviews until a death in my family. I struggled that semester and consequently, I was dismissed from the clinical psy program. The reasons were outrageous!!! I refuse to pay my student loan! 
Google Hamel vs. Argosy.

I hope they get more legal actions.

You may want to GOOGLE Hamel vs. Argosy.

I too had a bad experience at Argosy.  The support ended once I enrolled.  The faculty has already had some turnover and the quarter isn't even over yet.  I'm transferring to another school.  I'm just glad that I'm not that far in yet.

This program is really sad, lots of lies, failure to follow through, staff turn over like I've never seen.

I've hired an attorney.  I recommend that if you have or are also having trouble that you talk to an attorney. 

There is one lawsuit filed in Florida with Mager & Mager  954-763-2800 Scott Mager Esq. www.magerlawyers.com  and one in Seattle with Wershow & Ritter 206-223-0868 Matt King Esq.

The more of us that start standing up the stronger we are.

I guess I'll chime in here...yeah I  tried the on-line school, and it was amazing how frequent THE ADMISSIONS PEOPLE CALLED  and how amazingly   friendly they  were. I fell for their lines....enrolled but withdrew...after 1 week......because once I was in class, student support........VANISHED?! ..after everything on the on-line site that was promised ....I've read these reviews....pretty dismal....I agree with what is stated here.  Bottom line....the admissions people ARE like used car salesman/ politicians.  They'll do and say anything to get you to enroll.  And they prey upon the naive/innocent student. After reading much here....it seems the Sarasota campus shows the most promise. I thought that because they had high tuition..they'd bend over backward to support their students....reality couldn't have been more opposite.   Well finally..I thought I'd do a little play on the schools name......    ARGOSY  stands for.
Arrogant
Ridiculous
Greedy
Obnoxious/Oblivious
Superficial/Stupid
Yuppies

To Terrified:

1. Check other online schools which are accredited and of high quality, like Capella University

2. While you are enrolled you do not have to pay student loans

3. A lot of your classes will transfer since Argosy (like Capella) is HLC accredited (Higher Learning Commission).

4. Part of the current government stimulus package there are new options to restructure student loans, with a small portion of it even being forgiven.

5. Summary: find a more suitable school, transfer classes and continue your studies. Large debt and no degree is much worse than large debt with (potentially better) degree.

6. If you are enrolled in a doctoral program, start promoting yourself as an expert in the field, build a blog, network on LinkedIn, etc. If you start getting even small consulting gigs, you might be able to write off part of your education expenses.

7. Be creative, confident, and trust your gut feelings!

Cheers,
The Counselor

To Terrified:

You need to take each campus individually.  My campus - Seattle - has a bad reputation for not being able to keep staff or administration, lying to increase enrollment, failing those who's theoretical approaches they do not understand, and various other issues.  I have been told by several practicum sites that they will not allow students from Argosy because of the issues the school has had.  However I have heard that other campus' have been ok.  Its a matter of program and location.  Just take it slowly, conform, and be cautious.

I am currently enrolled in the EdD educational leadership program and I am finishing my first 33 credits. I am having a good experience with Argosy. The only is the cost. I know the comp. exam is the determining point and if I am doing well in all my classes it does not mean that I am going to pass that exam. I know I have to study hard. Having the first 12 credits from Argosy added to my resume has helped me a lot in getting a full time position. Also I have just got a promotion from my current employer since I have finished 30 credits on top of my MS in biology. I am having promises to get even higher places when I graduate. I have gotten my MS in Biology from a State University and these negative comments also apply to it. They were prejudiced, inconsiderate, and every thing you can say. However, Let us just blame ourselves. If I like to get a degree from public or state universities which shows a state name on it I would not come to Argosy because it is not a name of a state. Therefore, from my experience ONLY with this University, I can only say it is a POSITIVE one. I don't work for admissions as some will like to say here. I am just a student with GOOD experience and having tangeable benefits from this University.

So, if your stuck in the Argosy program and feel that there is nothing, and i mean NOTHING, you can do to get out without just dealing with a GIGANTIC amount of debt, what do you do? I need help...badly!

When it comes to APA accreditation some campus' are and some are not.  I highly recommend that you check the status of your campus if you are thinking of attending.  Do not take the school's word for it as I was told my program was accredited only to then find out that they had only applied.  By the time I left the program the school was given the option to either withdraw their application or have it denied.  They are still not accredited but are still telling people they are.

I'm no fan of Argosy myself but the school is APA accredited. It's verified on the website. Perhaps the Dallas campus has been accredited yet, I don't know but the following campuses are: Phoenix, Hawaii, Tampa, Atlanta, Chicago and Orange County.

This school is not APA credentialled. During the entrance interview, the Argosy professor I interviewed with FALSELY claimed the school had applied for APA accreditation and would be APA accredited by the time I graduated! This was a total lie! To this day, Dallas Argosy University has not even applied to the APA for credentialization! The APA has verified this!

For individuals who live in a metropolitan areas- most state run colleges now offer some sort of adult degree program, or other flexible programs hybrid/online program, or otherwise that are convienent. I don't have a problem with For Profit schools, but would stay away from virtual colleges, those that run from office space, even when they're accredited. 
The only 'for profit' I would recommend is Grand Canyon University, as it is a fully accredited school with an actual physcial main campus, with sports and dorms. 
If you're wanting to attend graduate school and have a low GPA, take other classes to improve your GPA and study hard and take the GMAT, or GRE. Don't take short cuts and waste money on a college that might not be around in 20 years.

For most of you young, undecided citizens do your research. There is nothing better than getting an education but it's important to look at the reputation of the place you will attend; after all your degree means you graduated from a university and it's history does follow you. This means you will be seen as a joke or not. Don't try to take the easy way out. Read, research and respect your studies.

Until next time good luck to each and everyone of you.

Online programs are not easy that is for sure, but all these reviews show me that there are a lot of people who are not happy and for me that means I am not attending.

To Rick:

Again I am sorry for you less than open mindedness.  If you had actually read my post you would have noted that I very clearly stated that your campus may very well have a qualified staff however there are many campus' which have pending lawsuits.  

You do not know my status and either a current or former student.  I posted several options for the possible pending lawsuits yet you immediately attack.  Several of the filed lawsuits are specifically about the topics mentioned.  You can specifically reference Hamel V Argosy which provides legitimacy for the possibilities outlined in my response to you.  

I never stated that I believed that I was superior to everyone in fact I tell those who inquire from me about this school that they need to look at the individual location they are planning on attending as each location has different numbers and ratios.  

You stated in both posts that "not everyone belongs in graduate school" and perhaps there is some truth in that statement.  However I must then ask you, if these students that are not passing their comp exams are not appropriate candidates for a graduate program, how are they making through a two/three year program and to their comp exams?  Shouldn't the school and its staff have noticed their lack of competency long before their final comp exam?  I wish you the best of luck in your program but when you talk about open mindedness you may want to look in the mirror.

To: Arrogance Irritates Me...

For someone who is easily offended by arrogance, you have no problem making grandiose generalizations. How do you know what members belong to student’s panels? How do you know the theoretical approaches every professor brings? How do you know the school is meeting quotas?

Incredibly, you managed to justify exactly what I had previously posted: not everyone belongs in graduate school. Perhaps I do scare you as a licensed professional. However, it’s not because of my vernacular, opinion, or extra credit! Simply put, my unwillingness to put up with excuses is what drives your anger.

In the end, unfortunately, you are the one that sounds angry. I mean, listen carefully to what you posted. You accused me of accepting extra credit or of being an employee of Argosy. Arrogance is the true nature of someone who feels they are superior to everyone else. 

Sadly, your arrogance has led you to believe that my motives were questionable. Now who is being arrogant?

I stumbled upon this website searching for Texas (non for profit) University and this called my interest. 

LISTEN CAREFULLY EVERYONE!!!! If you are contemplating attending a private college that has not held a good long standing relationship within your community DO NOT ATTEND.  

YOU THE ONE WHO HAS NOT ACCEPTED THE FA PACKAGE. DO NOT DO IT. SIMPLY CALL YOUR LOAN BORROW AND CANCEL IT SEND A LETTER BY REGISTER MAIL, FAX AN EMAIL AND A PHONE CALL TO ALL STAFF IN THE UNIV. 

ONCE YOU CANCEL THEY CANNOT GET YOUR MONEY. 

People please do not attend a private university unless it has been around for more than the beginning of time such as SMU, NOTRE DAME....

Phoenix was sued sometime ago and had to refund some money back to students ( they were sued by the state)

Go to a public college its cheaper they have online courses too! Also some of the public universities are going that route too! If you attend a private school that is not well respected...YES PEOPLE YOU ARE BUYING A DEGREE! For that you might as well print up yourself at home or at your local library. 

As one person has mentioned yes you will be laughed at by those who earned the right to be called "Dr." You see what these schools do not tell you is what your earning is a LIBERAL ARTS DEGREE NON TRADITIONAL!

I used to work at a private university and at the most part enjoyed meet a few awesome people and it was great until my eyes began to see the light. 

I learned so much in that time and in the experience in such an ugly atmosphere everytime I hear someone say I want to go back to school I inform the pro's and con's of a private university. And the truth of the matter is its always con's.

I apologize but, I really wish are government would do something about this awful mess of private school they ruin lives and put people into depth yet people refuse to recognize the dangers and do not even do their research. 

Most of you have yourself to blame! You all know that your actually buying a degree but, the fantasy of being "a somebody" clouds your judgement.

Can i still run from spending way to much money on this dam school??????

To Rick:

You are a sad sort. It makes me wonder if you receive extra credit from Argosy or are an employee for responding to posts.  I find your comments absolutely uneducated, especially for one in an EDD program.  It scares me to think that you, once licensed, will be able to assist in guiding those working toward their degrees.  

While your campus may be a decent facility, you make broad based statements regarding campuses for which you have no knowledge or understanding.  You have no idea why these individuals did not pass their comps.  Could it be that they filed complaints against their panel members, that their panel was not familiar with their theoretical approach, had a quota of a number of students that had to be failed, the panel did not like the student with a mind of their own who was willing to question the panel on their lack of knowledge about a certain topic, or that the campus could not keep faculty for more than a year and they were ill equipped to sit and judge comp exams.  

I find that your arrogance just irritates me.  I am glad that you are enjoying your program, but ask that you remember that there is more to an education than getting the alphabet soup behind your name.

Any comments on the Twin Cities Campus???

Lawsuits are being filed against this school in Florida, California, Washington, and Hawaii all for the MA in Counseling program.  My suggestion to anyone who has had difficulty with this program, especially if you finished the program with a good GPA but they still failed you, that you hire an attorney.  If we all stand up maybe we can finish it and let them know that they cannot treat their students this way.

I was in the Psyd program and I must say it was a terrible time for me.... unsupportive faulty, and staff.. I withdrew my second semester.. Please RUN FAR WAY DO NOT GO TO THIS FAKE SCHOOL!!!!!

AU atlanta was by far a nightmare.. HORRIBLE!! WASTE OF MONEY!!!

To Huh?
 
Let me first preface by saying that your note did not mention which campus or program you were applying to.  I was like you a working mom with limited resources.  I was provided good support during my admissions process.  I came to learn 2 years into my program that I had been lied to.  The school found otu that the recruiter was lying and fired her, however they failed to notify any of the students that she had enrolled that they had been lied to.  My advisor changed regularly and I was never notifed.  I usually found out when I went to who I thought was my advisor to find out that I had been transferred.  My admissions counselor was changed 3 times and I was never notified.  While the majority of my professors were great, not one of the professors that were employed by Arogsy were still there when I finished the program.  My campus (Seattle MA in Counseling) applied for APA accreditation but was give the option of withdrawing or being denied for the PsyD program.  I was told that the MA program was APA accredited (its important to note that the APA does not accredit MA programs).  There are current lawsuits being filed in Florida, Hawaii, California, and Washington all in the MA Counseling programs.  The school has a tendancy to fail students after their Subjective Oral Comp Exams, even when their practicum supervisor's had given them good reviews, and they have phenomenial GPA's.  My recommendation depends on which program and campus you are applying to.  If you looking at any campus for the MA in Counseling program I say find a different program  The cost that you pay is not worth the possibility of not getting your degree.

I've submitted my app to Argosy, and have been filling out my goal statement, etc. I'm trying to figure why there are so many requirements for admission to their online programs. The support I have received thus far has been outstanding, however! I've just been wondering why they're asking me to jump through so many hoops for admission. UoP doesn't do that.

I've checked Argosy's accreditation (on the higher learning website), and they have it. I'm calling the APA Monday to double check that they've continued their accreditation for Argosy Online (because of one of the comments mentioned above). However, the enrollment counselor, director of admissions and the financial aid adviser that I've spoken with so far (the last 3 weeks) have been super!

After reading all the horrible/negative and scary comments here however, I am hesitant to jump in with both feet. I need advice with the following:

Please help me out with this.

(1) Why are there so many hoops to jump through for admission?
(2) Why is UoP and Argosy being called "subpar?" (This term was mentioned above as well)
(3) Why wouldn't an accredited institution's diploma hold any weight in the corporate world?? (Also mentioned several times above)

I'm a single mom with LIMITED time to continue my education. The online program works for me, with my schedule. I'm determined to earn my degrees, so I can earn a better income for my children and myself. I'm "it" for them, and want to do better for them, than I can without a degree (since Forbes magazine mentioned the national average for salaries, depending on the degree attained).

I've been googling different things, trying to find out why the "reputation" of UoP and Argosy is bad, and why they are disdained from people who went to state Universities, etc.

Would my degree from Argosy not be accepted in the "real world?"

- Hesitant Mom

Thanks so much for the reviews!  I was just about to enroll in Argosy, but I pulled out.  Thoughts of promises not kept or forgotten and of being dismissed from the program with a significant student loan to pay back frightened me.  Best of luck in your lawsuits!  I'm interested in hearing how they go.

I have also filed a lawsuit they shouldn't be allowed to behave like this.

To Former Student:

You should look into a lawyer as well especially if you feel that you were unjustly released from the program.  A couple of posts up from DTK is a class action suit being filed.  This is legitimate as I have talked with this person and my attorney has talked with the attorney for this lawsuit.  Its time the students stand up and say enough is enough.

Thank goodness there are lawsuits being filed. I prey that the Tampa school is shut down. I was kicked out for bogus reasons two years ago and was left with 40,000 in student loans! The majority of professors are horrible and rude to students. I witnessed 2 different students leaving one professors (stats) office in tears! Why does Argosy charge astronomical tution rates to sit in classes and look at power point slides? Do not go to this school. They seek out student with fair grades who couldnt get into better schools, take your money and kick you out before you can graduate!

To Rick

I would be careful of any location.  There are lawsuits being filed against this school in Florida, Washington, California, and Hawaii.  At this point I wouldn't attend any of these campus' until all of that is over.

Any comments out there about Argosy Inland Empire?

Hello,

I was former student of Argosy University in Seattle studying toward a Masters Degree in Psychology. Due to Argosy’s policies and procedures, I was failed and forced to drop out. I received almost all perfect grades and was still failed. Argosy has a proven track record of doing this. They appear to be a “for profit” institution and have no intention to assist students in higher learning and obtaining advanced degrees. 

If you are, or have been a student of Argosy University and feel as if you have been wrongly failed, not placed in a practicum or forced out due to no circumstances of your own, we might have a solution.

I have spoke to an attorney who is willing to file a class action lawsuit against Argosy if we can find more victims of their unscrupulous practices. Please contact me at with your story at d_kirschbaum@comcast.net and I’ll pass it along to the lawyer for review. Don’t continue to pay student loan bills for corruption and greed.

Argosy Class Action Lawsuit

There should be a concerted effort by Psychology and Mental Health Professionals to keep this rediculous school from tarnishing the good name of Master and Doctorate degrees. Do not hire these people. Someone somewhere will hire these people, pay them cheaply, and allow them to offer nothing helpful to clients who would do better for themselves by reading self-help books. Luckily, since this school is unaccredited, I think that prevents any graduate of obtaining a license, at least within the state of Washington. They won't be opening a private practice, not as a licensed professional anyway. Thank God.

My comment is about the people I've met who have attended Argosy. One has a Masters in Counseling and is an airheaded dolt who runs off at the mouth with profanities in the work place. She appears to have no insight into people's problems or any ability to form a therapeutic relationship with a client. I was literally shocked when I heard her say she had a Masters Degree. She was complaining how no one will hire her with the degree... (No doubt!) Then there was this other gal who is currently in the "doctorate" program. What a joke! She said they suddenly hiked up the tuition to some astronomical amount and have barred anyone from taking a break in the program or they will be kicked out of it. From my estimation she is paying well over 100k for the "degree". But she's such a bubble head that she acted as if it was just an unexpected hurdle of life, oh well. I asked her if she would be earning a Ph.d and she said no, the equivalent, a "PSY-D". She then seemed surprised I had never heard of it and explained further, "It's just like a Ph.d but without the research". Then she willingly admitted that the school is currently unaccredited as if she has no idea how bad that is in terms of how her education will be valued by future employers. She was a clueless bimbo. I seriously doubt there are any admission requirements, such as a minimum grade point average on undergratuate work or a GRE. You pay the money and you're in. It's disgusting that this person may be walking around someday having others call her "doctor". Good grief.

Can anyone comment on the business program at the Sarasota campus?

I am in the same boat.  I have hired an attorney and am going forward with plans to sue the school and get at the very least my money back. I had very good grades, never heard from any professor that I was lacking in any way, shape, or form and was told after my PCE that I failed.  There was a list of all of my faults and when I posed the question how can you get through this program with these grades, never being told that your lacking (in fact you hear over and over again your doing great, your going to make a great....., you'll have no problems with this even by your internship professor) and fail your final.  My campus hired a man who had been filed from his previous institution for his treatment of students and they put him in as the Director of Training.  I filed complaints against him and he was put on my panel.  It's a sad sort.  I've heard that lawsuits are being filed in Florida, California, Washington, and Hawaii.  I was lied to by the recruiter, when the school found out they fired her but didn't tell any of the students that they had been lied to.  It’s a sad situation.

does anyone have comments about the Dallas campus?

To Check Yourself First: I think that you have a point on certain issues.  I think that if you read all of the above postings you will find that while some are people venting that things didn't go their way you will find that others had legitimate complaints.  There are lawsuits being filed against this school (particularly in the MA in Counseling Program), at several campus' including Florida, Hawaii, California, and Washington.  I find that if there are a few people complaining then it can be overlooked as people upset that they did not get their way, however when you look at the complaints and realize that they are coming from several campus' and are similar in nature then there is a problem with the program and its staff. 

I am not saying that all of their programs are bad as I only have experience with one campus and one program within that campus but what I am saying is that everyone needs to do their research and make their own decisions.

Everywhere you go, you will find professors you don't like or rules that seem ridiculous. Self motivation is what gets us through the day. If someone upsets you at Wal-mart, will you write walmart off or recommend no one shops there. The internet holds a wide array of information. It is up to us as an individual to do as much info as needed before we move forward in a life alterning situation. Don't blame others unless it is a fact that because of them you have failed. If it is truly a fact then take the proper steps no on here can assist you in your need as we too are trying to get ahead in life and better ourselves.

I don't get why all of you are bashing Argosy. I think it is a great school.

Thanks :-)

Have you not read the comments above?????????
FIND ANOTHER SCHOOL!!!!!!!!!
You'll find all the reasons NOT to attend in all the posts--please take the time to read them :)

Hi,

I am seeking Online MBA and interested in earning my MBA degree via online from Argosy University, should I or should I not - if so, why and if not, why not?

Please help and thanks!

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To Thinking of going to Argosy:

All I can do is provide you with my opinion of the Seattle Campus.  It's not worth it.  The stress will cause you to seek therapy.  I have been a professional in the community for more than 13 years.  I went back to get my MA in Counseling and even with a good GPA I was informed that I failed by PCE (Psychotherapy Competency Exam).  They provided things like not producing graduate level work (I was told by all my professors during my 3 years at the school that I was doing a great job even by my professor that sat on the panel (she apparently changed her mind but only for the PCE).  It was clear that the panel had no knowledge or understanding of my chosen theoretical theory and they were not willing to listen to my explanations based on my theory.  I had filed 2 complaints against one of my panel members and when I voiced a concern about him being on my panel I was told it was no big deal.  There is not one professor (other than the Director of Training (whom many students have filed complaints against) and the Head of the Department (who is afraid to have any negative interaction with the Dir. of Training and not willing to stand up for her opinions where he's concerned).  I had several professors that only taught one class then left as well as professors who would show up for the first half of the class then a new professor would be teaching the next half because the other professor quit.  I was actually accepted into the Doctoral program (which I was doing under a different department which had a better reputation) until they failed me on the PCE.  I find it interesting that I was more than qualified based on my grades, referral letters (several of which were from former professors and supervisors), writing samples, and interview only to be told that when I failed the program I was no longer a qualified candidate.  I cannot recommend this program to anyone.   When I started the program I was pleased.  All of my professors had active outside practices, but the school took a turn deciding only PhD’s would be hired, none of whom had anything other than a periodic forensic practice.   

All I can recommend is don't do it.  Find another program that is of quality and has a decent reputation.  Good luck

The problem with Argosy is that there is no accountability, no true valuable education, and too many possible land mines to fall into. Most of the teachers are not trained as teachers, they have a high turn over of staff and Presidents so no one can be held responsible for the disasters that will happen to you or people you know. Any time you make a change to your classes or program - ZAP! You've entered Argosy Hell- and you may not make it out. Ask for help? Zap! You're now a problem. Complain? Zap! You're out! SUE SUE SUE... that's the only way to stop the illegalities from continuing to be rampant. Everyone who was canned from a counseling program illegally were A students. Why? Stupid reasons pertaining to program director's LIKABILITY standards. She tried to kick someone out because she said she was "too secxksy", another because she was too quiet, others for medical reasons, a couple of others for sticking up for their friends, etc. etc. You want to suffer???? Go to Argosy, but don't say you weren't warned! You will suffer - or be a worse off person for it. DO you like Argosy??? It takes a special type of person to have no life experience, be a kiss ass, never challenge any wrongs. That's what they want. However, the largest harm is to the whole of society who allows this company to continue to stay in business. They have no conscience, no ethics, no morals, no genuine kindness. They definitely should not have a mental health program. This is the true harm - turning out people that have little value to the mental health profession. They passed 3 guys that I know of who were certified nut jobs. One guy kept talking about how he couldn't wait to get out of class to go get high. When someone gave him a dirty look about that, that woman got written up for "not getting along with classmates". The list of horror stories goes on and on. Don't have time to tell it all here, but the complaints are legitimate. Don't believe, go there and find out. If you don't have a hard time, you are lucky! Most people had a hard time and were constantly over-stressed and exasperated by the poor education, administration, and most of the teachers. SOme of the teachers were good - but most were sub-par and didn't have any teaching experience. I am talking about on campus. Good luck! You're going to need it!!!!!!!!!!!

OOOO myyy Gooosh!I cannot believe what I am hearing!I am graduating from Loyola University Chicago and I am interested in the Community Counseling program at Argosy in Chicago....U really, really, really scared me!!!!I don't know what to do...They started calling me and emailing me...scheduled for next week.Is is really that bad?No degree?Professors suck?Kicked out?Liars?Pls help!

After reading all the reviews, I find it interesting that a number of students at various Argosy locations seem to be failing their CCE. I can tell you at the Tampa location-it is an epidemic. The general sentiment among students is that Argosy is a business first. Argosy seems to accept anyone and eveyone into the program and then systematically fail a certain percentage of students. Most people are kicked out of the program based on the CCE. As other people have noted, alot of the students who fail have high GPA's, have successfully completed 2-3 years worth of coursework,  yet somehow manage to fail to meet the bare minimum on the CCE. There is something wrong with how Argosy is operating and it is bordering on, if not outright unethical. How many people at other campuses are experiencing people failing their CCE?

To KMB, 

I would have to say that I think the location and program hugely influences the experience.  I too was in the Counseling Psych program at the Seattle campus.  When I started the program I liked it.  But my program took a huge turn for the worse.  When they started it was much like yours, Professors were all active in the community and focused on helping the students succeed.  During my time in the program, this changed.  There was not one professor that was there when I started the turn over was huge.  The only 2 people still there were the head of the Dept and the Dir. of Training (who I've heard is now under investigation due to his treatment of students).  I had filed complaints against him and he was placed on my P.C.E. panel.  When I brought this to my professors attention I was told it was no big deal and that I would have no problem passing.  Needless to say they failed me.  I have a very good GPA and have never been told that I was lacking in any way/shape/form, but was told by him that I would need to complete another year and redo my practicum.  I told my practicum supervisor who was floored with this information as he thought I had done a good job and stated that he would have passed me.  I had double the number of hours in my practicum as was required.  I know of several other people who are in the same boat from my program, including a couple of people with 4.0 GPA's.  The Dir of Training was fired from his previous institution with complaints from other students about his behavior and attitude toward the student body.  I'm working on a lawsuit against the school as are several other people.

I am surprised by the negative statements pertaining to Argosy. I wonder if the specific location and degree program influences the experiences people are having. I went to Atlanta and had a positive experience. I graduated last year with my MA in Professional Counseling. The faculty and staff were available and helpful, the students were mostly individuals who were already in professional fields who wanted to further their education. Many of the students had a graduate degree in another field and were simply looking to change careers. The professors were almost always working as a psychologist/therapist and so we got a great deal of real-world information. I've also known others who have attended Argosy and were just as pleased and successful. I am currently working in my field and am going toward my licensure, something Argosy works to make as a smooth transition.

Argosy sucks ass!  They are liars and Dr. Bruss( the chair at the Orange County Campus Clinical Psy.D. program) is a racist, elitist, egotistical a**h*l*!  I was initially told by my recruiter that there was flexibility in the classes.  What a damn lie!  Class schedules change on a whim and the curriculm is b.s.!  A substantial portion of the students this year did not pass the comps exam, due to Dr. Bruss' convoluted questions.  How about learning to write pal?  Moreover, many of the fourth and fifth year students who went on their internship interviews did not get matched with their site.  Now they are out of a site and scrambling to get a part-time unpaid internship if they are lucky.  I wish I had known what I was getting into before I dished out $ 950 a unit!!!!!!!!!  If you want to get a doctorate in psychology, go to a real university!  Not this degree mill.

Let me just say one more thing.  I'm not making excuses for Argosy.  I mean I've had some anal professors, but overall I can say I learned what I needed to learn.  Yeah you can fly your way through the process that's why you have to make the most of it.  I still am sorry to see all these reviews.  Boy, I will keep watching this post to see what happens.  And I'm just speaking for myself.  I found the program sustainable and when I went to graduation, I met other professionals in the education system working at the administrative level.  So I really don't know what to say.  Judging from all the negative reviews, it might be worth the time to reassess.  I never had an issue because I graduated cum laude.  I don't work for the school either.  I can only speak for the education program.  They had quite of few people in the field of education for several years when reading the teachers' pedigree.  Maybe this is one of the more acceptable programs.

I attended Argosy and received my Master's in Education.  I did the program online.  I can tell you plainly, education is what you make it.  Some classes were painful and challenging.  Some professors were very easy, but that's the experience I had at my undergrad university.  I mean I'm shocked to see all the negative reviews.  I might have thought twice if I would have seen this.  It is a little expensive, but it was comparable to other private online  universities.  Very sorry to hear these complaints, but I have the degree now.  I might not have chosen this university.  Oh well, it's too late and I have to make the best of it.

I am a former student at the Seattle Campus in the MA Counseling program.  I can tell you that this program is just horrible.  During my time in the program there was a complete change over in staff (several times), there are only two staff members still there that were there when I started and one of them is being investigated becasue of the number of complaints that have been filed against him. I was also informed that the Head of the Department failed to notify the administration of these complaints. I personally had filed complaints against this idividual and he was still placed on my final panel.  This was not a good situation.  Do your research and be careful.  I've heard some good things about some of the other programs at that campus but I would definately avoid the Counseling Psych program.  I have a lawsuit filed.

OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASS HOLES, EVERYBODY'S GOT ONE. YOU CAN'T ALWAYS PLEASE EVERYONE, GRANTED SOME MAY HAVE VALID REASONS AND SOME MAY NOT, BUT DON'T YOU HAVE ANYTHING BETTER TO DO THAN DOWNGRADE AN INSTITUTION. YES THEY ARE A FOR-PROFIT SCHOOL, "A BUSINESS:, BUT GROW UP AND LET IT GO AND GET YOUR EDUCATION SOMEWHRE ELSE AND FOR GOD SAKES, SHUT UP ALREADY!
LEARN FROM IT, AND OPEN YOUR OWN SCHOOLS AND SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL COMPLAIN. THEY ALWAYS WILL NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY. 

GOOD BLESS YOU ALL, MAY YOU FIND PEACE IN YOUR HEART TO FORGIVE PEOPLE, AND TRY TO BE A GOOD EXAMPLE TO OTHERS.

RUN! AS FAST AS YOU CAN AWAY FROM ARGOSY! DO NOT GO HERE

DO NOT GO TO ARGOSY!!  I am in the twin cities and argosy university only wants your money. In my program three instructors left in less than a year due to how horrible the school is.  Not to mention the school is ridiculously unorganized, people do not get their financial aid in time, and they keep making up classes that are "required" to get our money!  Everyone that has ever gone there I have talked to hates it, as well as instructors!  RUN AWAY!! Do not go here under any circumstances.

I am currently a student at Argosy-Tampa. Unfortunately, I have been disappointed with Argosy in every way. Initially,prior to enrolling in Argosy, I was led to believe that it was "flexible" program with online and weekend classes. That is not true. There are no online classes for the Psy.D. program. Generally, there is one maybe 2 dates/times for each class and you either rearrange your life to fit that class in your schedule or you take it next year. The faculty are unapproachable, elitst, and sometimes downright mean. If they do not like you, you WILL somehow get kicked out of the program. The faculty has the upper hand because there is ZERO student representation and ZERO acccountability for the profressors. A substatial number of "core" faculty have left and are being replaced by former Argosy students. It seems that this is ideal for the faculty still on staff, because by bringing back former students as faculty, they are less likely to "make waves" or stand up to the status quo. I would NOT recommend this school to ANYONE. Find a reputable, established, state school.

I am an education student at Argosy Sarasota and about 3 classes away from completing my Masters. I have had an excellent experiance and really feel that I have learned what I was expecting to learn. I have a few friends that have attended other campuses and didn't have the same experiance. I will admit I have had some teachers that weren't great but overall the instruction was up to my standards. I would recommend Argosy Sarasota to anyone (I can't speak about the other locations) but as anyone looking for a graduate degree encourage you to do your homework. AU is not for everyone, no school is but it is for some people. Yes, it's expensive but most things worth it are.

Argosy sucks in the twin cities.  There are a bunch of clicks and the atmosphere is like high school.  This school suck and the advisors suck.  The recuiters promise flexibility but NOT TRUE.  

I have been harassed by other students.  Some students who witnessed this even filed a claim of harassment.  And what does the faculty members do.  ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!

My reputation has been ruined and other students whisper behind my back.  I have been isolated from my peers in that program.  

I wished that I never attend and was big waste of my money and more importantly MY TIME!!

insted of complaining about argosy, Im just posting this:  I have networked with 100's of other former students, and even a few law firms operated by former students.  We very much plan to class-action argosys'  money grubbing ass.  Theres 2 types of people on this site it seems.  Those who are argosys' damage control, making pretty comments about how fresh argosys' taint smells, and those who hate argosy like the poisonous bilge pump it is.  Dont just talk people do something about it.  See I am not one to not name names, I will site specific people, Like Dr. Monday McClain (a supposed professor) or Steven Hulik (a recruiter).  ANd I name names simply because I will not be hiding from argosy.  This school can kiss my ass, and Im going to rally as many pissed off people as I can, to jam a lawsuit up their ass.

Unfortunate.
I wish I had found this site BEFORE I enrolled at Argosy. I see now that I am just one of thousands who has had their pockets drained by the university. My specific issue was transferring credits. Argosy agreed to accept my credits from a previous school. TWO MONTHS after I enrolled they changed their mind. It has been one story after another and nothing is reliable. Six months into the program, I am on my third advisor. I encourage all of you to contact the accrediting agency ---Argosy University is accredited by the Higher Learning Commission (HLC) and is a member of the North Central Association (NCA) (30 North LaSalle Street, Suite 2400, Chicago, IL 60602, 1.800.621.7440, www.ncahlc.org). 

Please understand we were all forced into an Arbitration agreement in order to enroll. Use the process --- This arbitration provision shall survive the termination of the student’s relationship with Argosy University. If the student has a question about the arbitration administrators mentioned above, the student can contact them as
follows: JAMS, 45 Broadway, 28th Floor, New York, NY, 10006,
www.jamsadr.com, 800.352.5267; National Arbitration Forum,
P.O. Box 50191,Minneapolis, MN, 55405, www.arb-forum.com,
800.474.2371.

WOULDN'T IT BE WORTH $500 TO GET YOUR MONEY BACK?!?!

To Not a Scam  
What law firm is this email address for?  I would like to contact them directly via phone.  Sorry to be skeptical but I'm cautious when it comes to this kind of stuff.  I have hired an attorney in my area as have several other students from my campus.  I would be more than happy to provide over the phone this attorney with the information for my attorney and have further discussions but I must talk to them over the phone.

In response, I am not collecting information for spamming and I am not sure what lead you to this conclusion.  I experienced many of the same complaints that others on this site have made against Argosy.  4.0 student, told to take responsiblity for behaviors that weren't wrong, and Argosy finding reasons to drop me from the program prior to practicum.  I have legit complaints against Argosy and have sincere concerns about them being stopped before they do this to other students.  If the lawyers find the complaints of others to substantiate a case, they will move forward.  I am writing here to locate those who have had a bad experience at Argosy that left them with student loans and no degree to show for it.  If any one has questions or information they want to provide, the email to the lawyer looking into this is  gbplattner@plattnerlaw.com  If there is another way of me locating students who have been unfairly treated by Argosy University, let me know.

To Concurring with Negative Comments or gbplatter: Are you collecting information to spam later or worse? It seems new technique for that, if you are genuine, you will provide more information the, plattnerlaw.com seems to be a front for a scam.

My experience at Argosy was deplorable! Contact gbplattner@plattnerlaw.com to provide your story for a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT against Argosy. Stop them from leaving more students in debt with no degree!

To Mr. Colson:

If your rationale and what you wrote is a reflection of the kind of "education" you are getting at Argosy,I am more convinced that Argosy is not worth considering. Now, how you are doing?

This is to James.  I'm glad that you have had a positive experience with your particular campus and program.  I think that your response is a bit ridiculous and childish.  So I wish you luck and hope that your experience is better than mine.

For all potential Argosy students I would like to state that it comes down to each individual location and program.  Each program at each location works as an independent entity from another.  The PsyD program at my location (which I would never recommend) has no idea what is happening in the Counseling program.  If fact the PsyD and EdD programs are being made aware of how the Counseling program is being handled and its not looking good for the Counseling department.  The school is being investigated and lawsuits are being discussed. 

If you are looking at attending any Argosy campus, my recommendation is to find people who have attended that specific program at that specific location and get their opinions.  Ask the questions of the recruiters they are required to tell you what the drop out rate is, what the graduation rate is, etc.  Ask the local education facilities and credentialing boards about complaints.  

Yes your experience is what you make of it, but you don't have control over the behavior of the administrators.  For me I loved most of my professors, but I disagree with administration and their behavior and actions.  In my program alone there is not one professor teaching there now that was there when I started the program (3 year program) I think that says something about the program.

I think that all of you negative bitches need to get a life, I am in grad school at Argosy in Atlanta and I have had the most positive experience that I ever could have had at a school, the classes are small the classes in the evenings, and the teachers are fine to me. Grad School is what you make it bithches grow up and quit talkin sabout my school I take great pride in my colleges and will fight for their reputation anyday so to all of you negative  bitches, F Off!!!! Now how you doing?

I do not know why my post above posted multiple times. Sorry for the error!

I am a second semester Argosy Student in the Clinical Psych. Program. I do not understand all the negative feedback on here. I have had good experiences at Argosy University online. Yes, some professors are not as friendly or helpful, but others are friendly, helpful and informative. Yes, the price is a little high, but the schoolwork is challenging, so I'd say well worth it. I am a second semester Argosy Student in the Clinical Psych. Program. I do not understand all the negative feedback on here. I have had good experiences at Argosy University online. Yes, some professors are not as friendly or helpful, but others are friendly, helpful and informative. Yes, the price is a little high, but the school work is challenging, so I'd say well worth it. It is up to the student if they want to learn or not. You need discipline, especially in the online format. I have not had problems with staff and my professors are very informative. Maybe those of you who have had issues with Argosy are isolated occurrences and not typical of an Argosy student. I know many graduates from Argosy in well-respected careers now. I have been to three local universities and community colleges where I live and Argosy is not any easier. I like the Socrates way of teaching the online classes better than the lecture model, typical in most schools. I have yet to be disappointed. It is up to the student if they want to learn or not. You need discipline, especially in the online format. I have not had problems with staff and my professors are very informative. Maybe those of you who have had issues with Argosy are isolated occurrences and not typical of an Argosy student. I know many graduates from Argosy in well-respected careers now. I have been to three local universities and community colleges where I live and Argosy is not any easier. I like the Socrates way of teaching the online classes better than the lecture model, typical in most schools. I have yet to be disappointed.

Has anyone had any good experience with their online degree programs? I was thinking about getting my BA in psychology online from there but now I'm not sure.

Wow Leigh, 

Talk about a disappointing comment.  while I fully acknowledge that some of the Argosy programs may very well be ok, I find it really sad that you immediately accuse other facilities of writing the comments.  I must assume by your comments that you are a fairly new student to Argosy or be at a campus with a good program for whatever you have decided to study.  

The campus that I attended was really good at making promises but not following through.  I personally know of no student that has graduated from Argosy's MA in Counseling program from my campus that was happy with the program.  

My statement to each person looking at this school is to check out the campus you are looking to attend.  Look at its graduation record (dont just take their word for it), look at the lawsuit record, look at their remediation record, look at the staff rentention record.  In my 3 years at Argosy only 2 of the faculty were the same at the end and that was the Head of the Department and the Director of Training (whom several students had filed formal complaints about).

I am so thankful to you all for the comments - it so help me to make a decision. NO ARGOSY. The tution is EXTREMELY high for a online school. Money is hard to keep these days, and time is precious. 
And Leigh community colleges DO have supportive staff.

How many were Argosy employees writing positive reviews?

Wow! How many employees of Univ of Phoenix, Ashford and Kaplan were writing the negative reviews? Only people that don't have what it takes to complete their secondary education would have something negative to say about Argosy. They are the only school that was up front about what is expected. I am not treated like a number. I have a lot of support from faculty and staff. If you can't afford to pay for an education, go to a community college!!!!!!!

Also, older lady with short hair in front Honolulu campus office is either Addie Jackson's mom or mother in law. This is a small mom and pop outfit with no true accountability. The only one who will be held accountable for ALL the staff's wrong doing are YOU and your classmates. Addie runs the show - despite there being a President. She has the final say at that school. It is a puppet regime. You will have to deal with people who should not be in the mental health profession. They don't care about you, your education, or the community - it's just a job - a way to make money and screw anyone who gets in their way. Everyone I knew who graduated from Argosy Honolulu hated and dreaded every moment being there - with the exception of one kiss ass idiot.

Once you are in the system, they won't return calls any time soon, they will be unavailable for month/s, if you have a problem, no one will be kind enough to help you in a kind way. If you need something, forget it! You have now made yourself a target. You will be punished for making changes to your schedule, requesting anything, and for just being a student at Argosy. They have such LIMITED manpower that one or two people can't possibly handle all of the students' requests/ changes, so people get in trouble because the Administration can't help the students - then the Administration blames the students for complaining about anything that goes wrong. It's amazing. I am talking about at a campus - not online.

RECORD ALL INTERACTIONS AND I GUARANTEE YOU CAN SHUT THIS SCHOOL DOWN, OR AT LEAST GET A GOOD SETTLEMENT OUT OF IT. IF STUDENTS RECORDED ALL INTERACTIONS IN CLASS AND WITH FACULTY, A CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT WOULD BRING THIS PIECE OF CRAP SCHOOL TO A GLORIOUS END. Goldman Sacs owns EDMC.com, which owns Argosy - which is poorly managed. EDMC.com owns hundreds of for profit colleges. IT's just a business, not true valuable education. They just want their $ & will try to destroy all complainers by any means necessary - including lying and fabricating facts of reality. All faculty members will lie and say anything IF the program director wants you out for any stupid reason. Send complaints to the Regional Accreditation Board, RECORD and SAVE all correspondence with school. PLEASE DO ALL THAT YOU CAN TO SHUT THIS PIECE OF CRAP SCHOOL DOWN. The way that they operate is a CRIME and I feel sorry for everyone who got taken in by them. They ACCEPT everyone!!! Then after they get as much $ out of you as possible, they start to try to find things wrong with you... like maybe the program director doesn't like you because of something you said or because you have having a problem. They will try to give you the ax for any petty reason - even if you are an A student and didn't do anything wrong. Keep all information to yourself. ADELINE JACKSON (AKA: Mary O'Brien) from Argosy Honolulu NEEDS to be FIRED. She is pure EVIL and leads a DUAL life. She parades as Addie Jackson, but then she has another name plate at the front saying she is Mary O'Brien. She told our group that she is the EX-WIFE of the former President of Argosy schools: Gregory O'Brien and that she got her job as part of her divorce settlement!@#$%^&*. She will be FAKE nice in front of others, but if you are alone with her, watch out and RECORD!!! RECORD EVERYTHING in person, over the phone, in class, SAVE your emails and letters so you can SUE them when they try to do illegal and unethical things to you and/or your classmates. It will just be a matter of time before you will see the evil happen before your own eyes. It may not happen to you, but you will either experience, see or hear about it while you're there - that's for sure. If you or your friends don't get canned, it'll be because you were a silent follower with little to no life experience or professional experience, were a kiss ass and publically blamed yourself for everything that went wrong, or you just plain got LUCKY! I would say, cut your losses and RUN for the EXIT. You made a huge mistake just like hundreds of others who publically and privately regret it.

This is a reply to Randy.

I cannot personally recommend Argosy University.  (See my post just a few above yours).  That said, I recommend you look into whatever school you want to attend.  Check with the APA and see who is accredited and who is not.  I know that the branch of Argosy I attended tried to get accreditation but was denied.  I cannot speak to all campuses of Argosy just the one I attended.  I would opt for your State University if it were me.  Its also a lot cheaper.

I need help! Can someone please reply? What should I do, should I go to a state school(assuming that I can get in) or attend Argosy for the MA in Counseling? Im so confused cause I hear a lot of valid analysis and also very angry responses.  To be quite honest I attended a private university and am already in debt, I just want to further my education as soon as possibly so I can start to repay my loans.

I have read some of the comments, your education experience is what you make it, no matter what school you attend. A degree does not guarantee you a job, it can only help. For those of you who are getting a DBA to obtain a job, you need to ask yourself, if I am not going into education why would I need an advance degree. As for the person who said that a EdD, Psy.D, DBA, is a second rate degree you are wrong. It is a degree where that says you are not entitle to do research. Most jobs with PH.D's they do research. If you are going this route you  just want to enhance your carre oppportunities. I have seen people who have attended schools I know are low , but they still have very good and hig paying (six figure jobs). I think many of the experiences on here are fom students who are traditional students and need to be in a classroom setting. Also as a instructor myself, alot of times when programs are starting the school hire new instructors because they need to get instructors in. It is like starting a new company. You don't always start out with the best you have to weed them out as you go along. That is what they are doing. AS far as the school being a degree mill. i think ever school is one now. I remember when I went to college ( about 16 years ago) it was very hard. You had to actually work, you had to
go to the library and do research. Now it is so much easier due to the internet and email. So more people are going back to school to get an education and advanced degrees. So don't take anyone opinion atleast try it for yourself and see if you like it. Understand many instructors are adjunct professors and not tenured. So if you have a problem contact your advisor and let them know how you feel rather than voice it on this page. In numbers we are strong. You can actually get them to change if you contact your Director of student affairs and voice your concerns.

I am currenty attending and I thought this was the best decision of my life but after reading the reviews for this school I know that I am going to transfer as soon as possible and it sucks that I have taken a loan out but It's great to know now that I can transfer before I take out anymore money.

The administrator is watching over the blog since I saw most of the comments were gone.

Wow I wish I had found this site before I attended Argosy.  I am one who was lied to by the AU recruiter.  They answered all my questions with the right answers and I thought wow what a great school.  I found out at the end of the first 2 years of my 3 year degree that the recruiter had lied and was fired for doing so, however the school administration made the choice NOT to tell the students she had lied.  I have a great GPA but was told during my competency exams that I had no clue what I was doing and was going to have to repeat my internship again.  This is even though I have an A average, letters of recommendation from several of my faculty members, intership advisor, and a specialist in my chosen theoretical orientation.  The other twist is that the only two faculty members who are still at Argosy (in my program) are the head of the department and the director of training - both of whom started a few months/weeks before I did.  All other faculty in my program has changed some of the positions several times.

I do not recommned this school to anyone!!!!

Insults will get you know where...you are proabably one of those people that start something and never finish, but you want to be critical of others that have made success. To that end, I feel sorry for you.

Education was never meant for people to acquire a job or a career for that matter. Education was about becoming knowlegable and leading your community. The reality is that the best employment opportunities are given to those who know somebody. Always has been and will be. People should not get caught up in the "I have a degree from X University therefore I will have a luxurious career." Employers could care less where your degree is from unless the person doing the hiring is an alumni and seeking other alums. Employers care about experience and what you will do for the organization. I have worked alongside Ivory league, public, and private school graduates. I have a graduate degree and have also worked under individuals who have never set foot on a college campus. What is a degree besides a piece of paper with debt attached to it. Education is big business no matter the size of the school. All colleges and universities get paid. The president's job is to make sure funding is secured and flowing no matter the institution. Education is something purely personal. No one can give you an education and how can you qualify a "wonderful educational experience" in a broad spectrum. Empty rhetoric no matter the institution. Whatever the choice a person makes understand it is a personal commitment to be educated and that means going outside of the classroom and outside of textbooks.

As soon as I requested more information about their school and got a call within two minutes I was shocked. I was like what a great school, they really care about me. I wanted to enroll in clinical psychology in chicago but I am not anymore after reading all these negative comments. I do not want to pay so much money and never be able to pay it off, and even worst find a job. I feel very very bad for all of you that had such a bad experience but thank you very very much for giving us future students this information. The reason why I wanted to attend Argosy is because they do not require GRE. I took the GRE and did not score very high and on top of that I am late to take a suject GRE in psychology. I think I will study and prepare for GRE and apply next year in december. I thank you all again

Very interesting comments!  I was about to start the DBA online program the end of this month.  The admission and financial aid advisors were very swift in getting me accepted and getting the financial aid in place actually a little harrassing! I started having second thoughts after reading the handbook, especially the part where you were required to remain enrolled until completion.  I told them that I could not commit to same and was told that students took sessions off all of the time and it was no problem.  This seemed like a quick fix to my withdrawal.  I also took their introduction course and found many technical problems with their quizzes.  You can actually pull up the questions that you got wrong and then when you take the quiz again and correct the answer(s) they again come up wrong.  Too frustrating for me!  I e-mailed my advisor to be withdrawn and apparently got a call from a higher up.  Little do they know that I have been given hard sells before and they me very little to me as I can think for myself!!!

I very much appreciate all of the comments posted on this forum because I am also running as far away as I can and look at the 50 buck investment as peanuts!

Thanks Guys!!!!

FYI, the reason why they didn't even look at your history, is because they could give a crap less--they NEED students badly. It doesn't matter whether you've worked hard for a 4.0 GPA or have a 1.2 GPA..they simply want your $$$$ :)

Argosy University's "request information" page on their website is the greatest thing to come from the internet.  If you put someone's name, email, and phone number they will call/email the S-H-I-T out of it.  Seriously, put down someone's number, and they'll get a phone call within 10 minutes then about 7-8 more calls over the course of the next 3 days.  Argosy is such a piece of s-h-i-t!

I am an International student and I just got a call from the student advisor at Argosy. She was asking me for my credit card number and that she would fill the application all by herself. I wonder how she can do it without my school GPA's and personal details. I felt the admission process is very vague and I didnt like it when they said that I need not submit my GMAT scores. I was browsing through this site when I read your comments. Thanks to all of you...I dont think I would want to join this university.
Thanks again :)

Argosy University is by far, THE biggest mistake I've made in life. It is nothing other than an institution that rapes an individual of money, energy, and decent education. The classes make me feel like I'm in elementary school ALL over again. At first, I thought It was just ONE professor, but it wasn't. This has been dragging on for ALL of the courses I've unfortunately taken. EVERY SINGLE department fails to answer questions and take responsibility. I'm not sure how they keep the "University" running at this rate, I honestly don't. Anyways, for ANYONE interested--If you truly value your money and your education, DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT enroll in this school. You WILL regret your experience.

I am currently working on my Psychology Competency Exam at Argosy Seattle and have to say RUN to anyone considering entering that program. I began the program 3 years ago and it is scary to think that the university has gone through 3 Presidents and the entire counseling department has changed.  The only people still there is the head of the department and the practicum chair (who must have you bow and lick his feet if you want any type of decent score).  The current staff is full of individuals who will tell you that they want you to use the style that works best for you when in actuality they want you to use the style that they understand.  Any theory that goes outside of their common knowledge is a threat to them.  It is also very clear that depending on who is on your review panel there are different requirements.  In preparation for this final event you are not allowed to have your professor review your paper, nor are you allowed to get any assistance on the actual writing of your paper from any staff member.  If you have a question about the manual you can expect to get a copy and paste of the manual back.  I was lied to going into the program.  My admissions representative was actually fired for lying to potential students and none of us were ever told that she had been lying and by the time most of us found out we were 1.5 - 2 years into the program.  I even came to find out that my advisor is no longer at the school and I was never notified.    All I can say is don’t do it.  The headache is not worth it.  I am actually filing a lawsuit.

I wanted to try the on-line college format because I needed to finish my teaching degree as I was in a dead end job. I was contacted and treated very well by my admissions rep, unfortunately that's where the good part of the story ends.
I got into class, was assigned my  academic advisor, and thought I was on my way. Fortunately for me and my instincts I waited to sign any financial aid statement...lucky me. I was in class only 1 week before being withdrawn...and a good thing. I sarted class, was confused about navigating the on-line classroom..as well as what academically I was supposed to accomplish as well. I asked my class advisor what I needed to study for an upcoming quiz,...we talked,.. I listened,   did what I was told...the quiz came....and  more than half  of the material on the quiz I had never seen before?!   Then I tried accessing library articles I was supposed to read...I was successful at accessing exactly ZERO articles.   Because I had no faith in my class advisor at this point, I   tried contacting the on demand tutoring/ 24 hour support system for help. Meanwhile I was trying every other way to find the library articles. I did manage to find 1 library article via a different method than was originally intended. Finally a help message came to me via phone..it was the "24 hour" help system...they got back to me exactly 1 week...yes 1 WEEK after I asked for help?!  Big red flags here folks. Like I previously mentioned I never officialy signed my financial aid statement.   and was withdrawn from the class after 1 week. I did e-mail my issues to the school, and got practically no responses to my problems. And as you know their silence spoke pretty loud.   Then my original admissions rep, which was 1 of the very few people I got along with...mysteriously vanishes.  In a few months after  being withdrawn I was contacted via phone and e-mail to re-enroll from a new admissions rep. The message to me  was: to make your program successful this time I need you to sign all these official documents and get them back to me as soon as possible. Do you smell a rat?  Anyway...my advice to people about this school...Research   heavily all your choices for on-line schools before committing. Be fully aware of what your committed to before signing anything. Ask questions/questions/ questions... if they're not answered directly then a red flag should go up.  I think on-line schools for the most part are like anything else new on-line...not ready for prime time....I'm sure there's some good 1's out there, and I'm sure Argosy fits some students and what their employers want from their employees as far as schooling goes. And I'm sure that some have had good Argosy experiences. But make sure sure sure that this school is a good fit for you before committing. My experience here for all they promised, and the money they charged.... I'll give it a grade value...I give it as high as a D

How much you ended paying for your degree?
Simple question and Simple answer.(Did not answer the question)

It is accredited (good) and if you were able to afford it or someone paid for it(employer), then good for you. I have no problem with the academics, what I do have a problem with, is the cost of it and services to students, same as UOP, you pay a premium for a degree that you can get elsewhere for less.

As with any terminal degree, the cost is going to be high. However, that was not my point. I see that you have a problem with the finance attached to the degree and that's cool, it is not for everyone. I can not put a price on a quality education. At some Universities you pay more and others you pay less, we are talking about a terminal degree. Look, I am not here to solve your issues with this particular University, I am just giving my version of the type of education I am receiving from Argosy Univeristy (Atlanta Campus). I can't speak for others schools or even other campuses, but I can speak about MY experience in Atlanta.

I am surprised this institution is not shut down.  They do a lot of things way out of compliance.

Very expensive personal goal for you and to show your nieces and nephews, that you can achieve anything you want in life.

How much you ended paying for your degree?

I have read a number of posting about Argosy and they are (in most cases) Negative. I must say, I have not had that experience at the Atlanta campus. There have, however, been a professor or two that were less than desirable, but for the most part, my experience has been spot on. I am in the DBA Information Systems concentration and my background is Information Systems for the past 10 years. A lot of the complaints that I see here are from the Psych and Ed students which has a number of other organizations that your must prove yourself with. I guess the bottom line for me is that Argosy catered to my busy schedule and a Technology Manager and was a good fit for ME, but what works for ME may not work for others. If one is not satisfied with Argosy or any other place of higher learning, that person has the option of moving on to something that suits them better, and all I can say is GOOD LUCK in all of your endeavors.

Believe it or not, Argosy and other school like it are her to stay because that is a need for it. I looked into Georgia State; however, they did not want you to work at all while pursuing your Doctorate, which was not going to work. I looked in the UoP, but did not like the format. I looked into Walden and decided against it. Argosy was my choice and I have been successful in my studies with them. This degree is a goal for me on a personal level. I make good money already, I am with a company that I love, but to have a Doctorate is a personal goal for me and to show my nieces and nephews that you can achieve anything you want in life.

Remember as you read these comments, you have nothing to prove to anyone but yourself. If you ultimate goal is to complete your terminal degree, then let no comments from disgruntle individuals with personal agendas stop your from achieving that goal. Again, GOOD LUCK!!! AND GODSPED.

I heard the APA won't be re-accrediting their psych program.  I wonder why that could be?  Sucks to be $130,000 in the hole when that one hits.  Good luck, yall.  I agree with another writer that said they prey on students that can't get into schools elsewhere.  Boy, I wish I could put an Argosy "doctorate" on my vita!

I've been thinking about transferring to Argosy, looking into their doctoral program in counseling psychology.  I am currently enrolled in the same program at Walden.  The thing I'm finding strange here is that this whole thread could have been written about Walden -- unresponsive to students, ignoring problems, trying to blame students for the university's problems, etc.  Strangely, I find the internet peculiarly free of negative comments about Walden.  I think everything has at least *some* positives and negatives, but is Walden the only thing in the known universe that has "no" problems whatsoever?  Is somebody running a giant Hoover that removes negative comnments about Walden from the internet?  I'm just finding it all very, very strange, how so many of these comments are dead-on about my own experiences at Walden.  Can anybody direct me to any information that would help clear up this mystery?  Hello?  Is Sherlock Holmes still for hire?

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It was convenient but expensive. AU is not meant for most, for me it served its purpose. I received my M.Ed from AU. which allowed me to obtain the promotion to a new position with a new co (very reputable co.). That said if I had the time and money I would have gone to a more reputable institution of higher learning.
I find solace in knowing I graduated maintaining a 4.0 throughout the program. Though I suppose that is akin to saying I ran circles around 4 year olds while playing them in basketball...it is to be expected as long as you make minor effort.
For those considering the school:
It is true that it's run like a business
Some prof's are outstanding. For me all were less one
Before making the commitment, know that you have to have to desire and interest to push forward regardless of the distraction from the AU machine.

I complete my program in less than 12 month (about 50 weeks) this was another plus as we were expecting our first child 1 week after the semester came to an end.

@ Get Help:

I email you 3 days ago and you have not answer me , so is this is a way to collect people's information to spam them later?

I am currently in the process of bringing a class action law suit against Argosy University for discrimination, retaliation and inefficiency.  If you have any supporting information or you would like to join this suit please reply to jamiacole@yahoo.com.

I am currently in the process of bringing a class action law suit against Argosy University for discrimination, retaliation and inefficiency.  If you have and supporting information or you would like to join this suit please reply to jamiacole@yahoo.com.

I attended Argosy and all I have to show for it is a mountain of debt.  Looking back one of the things that irritates me the most is the way Argosy's financial aid office is run.  Argosy insists that all student loan funds be transferred directly from from the lender to Argosy's coffers.  This way the student never has possession of the money he or she is spending.  But make no mistake, the student is spending it and the lender will relentlessly pursue the student for the rest of his or her life.  Because the student never the money in hand, her or she does not have to evaluate the opportunity cost of plunking down $5,000 for a semester at Argosy or say...buying a car.  Furthermore, if a student takes out extra money for living expenses (not tuition) it also goes to Argosy.  Then Argosy gives the living expense money to the student making it "feel" like Argosy is doing you some kind of favor and giving you money.  This is a deceptive scam designed to keep students from feeling the real pain of paying outrageous tuition until after it is too late.
Shame on you Argosy!

I'm now at Capella and quite happy...I'm graduating this summer. :)

I like this one better
DBA=Don't Bother with Argosy

I just dropped out of the DBA program after I found out my prof misrepresented himself as a senior executive for a multi-billion dollar company, when in actuality was a territory sales rep!! Upon looking into this further, he is teaching in a DBA concentration area, and has no doctoral-level credits at all in that discipline. His "illustrious" alma mater, Welden University, doesn't even offer doctoral courses in the subject he now teaches in at Argosy!  When I confronted Argosy with this info, they supported this fraud and refused to refund my $.  What a joke! I'm glad I found this out now, before investing any more $.  My first three profs were good, but many of the students couldn't even write above a high school level at best.  One student was in her last class before comps and dissertation and couldn't handle basic grammer, and had no understanding of APA guidelines. No wonder they don't have a credible business accreditation!! Run as fast as you can!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If I could do college over again I would NEVER attend a college that does not publish a student directory.  This should be a RED FLAG!  There is a reason why crooked schools do not want students to be able to contact each other.  They do not want students to be able to compare notes on their experiences for fear of class action lawsuits!  Run from any school that deliberately impedes communication between students and between students and alumni!

I have to think that Tampa's location, distance or not, has the MOST unsatisfied students.  All of the good professors are either leaving, have left, or are going to be fired for having thoughts of their own. I have never felt so stifled.  As a current student (3.5 GPA) who drags himself to class, I can say that this school is a rip-off and a disgrace. I stay only because they have stolen so much of my money and I am too deep to leave.  It is too late to transfer. RUN AS FAST AS YOU CAN from Argosy, Tampa.

To I didn't listen:

I am sorry you learned your lesson the hard way, but to help others and so they don't have to experiment what you did, rate your experience. Hopping it gets better for you. 

Best of luck.

I didn't listen to the advice of my professors and I ignored the comments on the messageboads.  Instead I went to the Argosy Tampa campus.  I am finishing my first year, and WILL NOT RETURN!  What a waste of time and money!  The professors are horrible.  They YELL AND SCREAM and TREAT STUDENTS LIKE GARBAGE! They put out conflicting information in separate classes. Many of the 2nd and 3rd year students are getting kicked out for NO GOOD REASON!  I think they are getting rid of us because they DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PRACTICUM SLOTS FOR EVERYONE NEXT YEAR!!!  I was told by my advisor that this happened before. More and more sites are refusing to take Argosy students... and I don't blame them.  I don't care if I lose time and money.  I'm applying elsewhere!  I can't stress this enough.  DON'T GO HERE!!!

The only thing UOP has been a leader in is marketing and profits.    Educational quality, customer service, and graduation rates have been abysmal.

What does Argosy have to do with UOP?  The UOP executives they hired will help turn a failing university around.  If you want to forgo the growing pains just go to UOP who has been the leader in distance learning ever since the idea became a reality.

The problems with Argosy are at every campus.

First of all you have to understand that an education is a product that obeys the laws of market economics.  (Supply and demand).  Argosy is not widely recognized as a reputable school and therefore the demand for their product is low.  Then they compound the issue by charging tuition that is often 3 times what you would pay at a comparable state college.

So you have low demand driven even lower by out of control tuition.  But Argosy must keep their enrollment numbers up to make money.  They accomplish this by admitting EVERYONE.  Employers know this so right off the bat - ON DAY ONE your degree is worth less because your future employer knows that you did not have to compete on the basis of academic ability or aptitude (as measured by ACT scores) to get into Argosy.

Some students who attend Argosy are well qualified but Argosy is forced to "dumb down" the curriculum and lower academic standards to accommodate the poorly qualified students.  This means that even the well qualified students are not learning as much.

Furthermore, Argosy faculty and staff are well aware of the fact that a large proportion of their student body is poorly qualified and therefore they have little respect for students.  They do not treat students as customers.  They treat them as "bottom feeders" and they do not take their committment to helping students succeed seriously.