Argosy University

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Argosy University is a private school offering courses online and on campuses across the United States. Associate’s, bachelor’s, and graduate degrees are available in business, education, health science, liberal arts, and the social sciences. Students have 24/7 access to professionally designed online courses featuring meaningful lectures, readings, and student discussions.

Accreditation: North Central Association
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Country: USA
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2 of 3 people found the following review helpful
Wish I never
Psych - June 13, 2016
I'm being given that don't pertain to my field, I wish I never did this already up $ 33.0000 it's crazy I can't wait to get away from this school if you 50 plus years and slow learner like me think twice

7 of 8 people found the following review helpful
cheated
Ed.D Organizational Leadership - January 12, 2016
I had a good experience at Argosy while completing by classwork but when I was working on my Proposal for my Dissertation it became a nightmare. I was assigned to a Chairperson who did not know what she was doing and that was for over a year. Then they reassigned me and the committee kept jerking me around with change after change after change...no one could agree. With a 3.83 average I had thought I would do it simply. After two years of this and then getting to the point of Defending my Proposal the school called me and told me I had too many credits and had to drop out...I was devastated and my family was appalled. A month later they called me again and reported that I could return to school. Can you even imagine what I told them....Bad experience, really bad!! Do not even consider Argosy U as you will most likely end up disappointed as I did.

6 of 7 people found the following review helpful
Wouldn't let A level w/Masters Clinical Psy continue to Doctorate
Doctor of Psychology - November 28, 2015
Our daughter entered Argosy at Honolulu and was told that she could complete the program's leading to Doctor of Clinical Psychology. Upon completion or her Masters in Clinical Psychology and application to enter the Doctorate studies and having paid $65,000 to complete the Masters she was told that she had insufficient experience to enter the Doctoate program. Why was she told that she could complete all studies for the Doctorate then rejected when she applied? Now she has a $65,000 burden hanging around her neck.

4 of 5 people found the following review helpful
Health Service Management
Masters of Science in Health Service Management - July 14, 2015
I graduated and wanted to attend graduation for my Master Degree but due to lack of communication I never got to walk the stage. I completed it in 2 years actually ahead of schedule because I doubled up on classes once. The curriculum is great and you actually have a lot of work to do. I had several small papers due a week and there were no short cuts on doing them. After I graduated in 2013 I relocated to Southern California and have been looking for employment every since I've gotten here. I wish they would help more in that process. I also agree it is very expensive as well but once I find a good job then it will be worth it and I'm trying to stay optimistic.

6 of 8 people found the following review helpful
non-licensure for ALL online programs
MA of Forensic Psychology - July 3, 2015
As an older student, I am going to be truthful here; I had one very bad experience with an instructor who would not communicate in a timely manner for a project, this caused delays and then I could not finish it on time and she would not give me more time even though it was in her discretion to do so, right in the middle of me travelling to see my son graduate from basic training in the Army. For this failed class, I tried to file a complaint on the instructor, which I had a right to, but process seemed too rigorous so I opted to not file a complaint. I continued and I have 3 more classes. I just found out that my program is a non licensure program which I assumed there was some other option to do forensic counseling because all the class examples involve counselling. Yet in this state, you must be licensed to do counseling. So I asked for a call from my advisor which took 2 weeks, which he called and I found out that any licensure programs in this state, must have as on-campus for the program. So, all this course/class work on counselling and I can never use it! I totally misunderstood the details of what Masters level psychologists can do. I got it now. I'll finish my program and go to a licensure program elsewhere. So now add some more money and time to the $60,000 I owe to the student loans I have already.

5 of 5 people found the following review helpful
For profit and definitely not for the people
Education - July 2, 2015
If you're looking for an institution that cares more about meeting it's student quotas than student success, Argosy University, Chicago is the place for you! I have never seen a place where the admissions team only cares about how many students they enroll. The Director has basically brain washed the top officials to believe that she is for the students. For example, there were times when admissions representatives would go to her because they knew that a student wasn't ready for the fast paced class in the undergrad program. Joanna would tell representatives to enroll the students anyway. The Director of student services is never available. I remember one rep talking about her disabled student that urinated on herself in class because the handicapped restrooms were locked. Wow, who are you guys really for? Students with disabilities are only cash commodities who are enrolled to meet those quotas. It's a shame that so many people are lied to and taken for granted. The turnover rate in admissions is ridiculous...and that's because people work there and realize that they don't care about students only about getting them through the first couple of weeks of class, or census as they call it, so that Argosy can get paid. After that, it's the hell with the student. If you are considering any argosy at any location...think twice. Your degree won't mean anything in the real world. As a matter of fact, start at a community college and take many of the general classes that you need. You will save a ton of money and more than likely will work with an institution that really cares. Run fast...oh, and be on the lookout for a book about proprietory institutions AKA the ripoff scammers!

7 of 8 people found the following review helpful
Ed.D - Education Leadership
Educational Leadership - May 22, 2015
I started my (Ed.D)Education Leadership program back in January, 2007. Eversince, everthing and every experience at Argosy University, Santa Ana, California has been an awesome lifetime gift of God. I love every member of faculty, staff, and supporting body of university. However, after three years of my rigorous studies, I had completed my all courses. I took comprehensive exam but unintentionally and unknowingly I run it through "TurnItIn" and that's where my all hardship became to halult and invain. AUOC accused me of "plagiarism" which I never intended but a stupid mistake. I honestly informed Argosy Board bebore handing over my all Comps' papers, but very disappointed as they never gave me another chance. What a shame, I'm under so much education loans' debits and I need a fair consideration to complete my dissertation blocks and earn my Ed.D degree. I'll appreciate if i can be given a chance to complete my Ed.D without any prejudice preconditions from AUOC, California, USA. I got DBA degree online from UK, and left California with all heart breakings. I'm now a well respected prominent Professor of Business Administration in China, and love every thing I teach and facilitate my business grad and under-grad students.

6 of 7 people found the following review helpful
So far, so good.
Ed.D. in Counseling Psychology - December 8, 2014
I am currently enrolled in the online Counseling Psychology program. I have completed all of my course work and have passed the comp exams. I had resolved two serious incidents with this school. They even worked with me to erase the tuition of two courses. Thus far, my dissertation chair has been supportive. I am pleased with the education that I am receiving at Argosy. I do find the faculty responsive and interested in providing their students with a quality education. I did find the weekly posting of assignments and making two comments to the works submitted by my colleagues very annoying. I find not having CACREP accreditation very disappointing. However, I would recommend the online Counseling Program to anyone who enjoys working independently. That potential student should have a wide range of counseling experiences on master's degree level.

13 of 17 people found the following review helpful
MACC or Clinical Psychology Program at Argosy University
Master's Degree in Psychology with a Counseling specialty - November 13, 2014
This is for Atlanta only, so let me make that clear from the outset. I am attending the program now, only because state laws increased the requirement from 48 hours to 60 hours which means 4 more classes and about $10,000 plus books ($500). That being said, here is my breakdown of the materials, teachers, the institution itself, support and overall value. Materials: Marginal at best. Most teachers copy a boiler plate syllabus, often you will even see another teacher's name on there by mistake, and it is not often correct. The syllabus ALWAYS requires you to buy one more book then you will ever need and chances are if there is a main textbook, the other 2-3 books are just a total waste of your money - do not buy them! A waste of space, money and time. Teachers: Wow, this runs the gamut but here goes. The large majority are DOCTORS, but hold the phone. Again, doctoral degrees are largely EDD's and not PhD's in the MACC programs. And if you look even closer, those with PhD's are not licensed psychologists. You can get a PhD from anywhere but if I am in a licensing program....I want you to be a licensed therapist, not a teacher. Student Teachers: Yes, some PhD's are tired from their day jobs so they pass the buck off and make the students teach. Some might argue, "This is how you learn!" B.S. If I am teaching a chapter or 9 chapters, you had better be paying me. I do not pay $2200.00 per class to teach it, but at Argosy Atlanta I have been in 3 of 12 required courses where this is now commonplace. They mask it by making it a group project or requiring a PPT presentation, but you are still doing the teacher's work while she does some assessments she should have been doing at the office. The Institution (PHYSICAL LOCATION and AMENITIES): Deplorable. There are 4 floors inside an office building and you would not even know it was a school unless you asked. A few signs adorn a garage when driving on a highway, a mini sign (like Kinko's with 8 other companies included) outside and a few badges inside. It is not the ARGOSY bldg, they lease the space. The STUDENT LOUNGE you ask? Well that is located on the 4th floor and consists of one couch, 3 tables, a soda machine and two vending machines (often at least 1 is out of order). Embarrassing. It is not your customary graduate lounge and there is only one lounge. IT: The IT department is on the 3rd floor and rents you video cameras on CD ROMS that are from 1992. Again, it is an embarrassment. The guys there are nice but they are mostly there to help inept teachers learn how to lower their screens for a PPT presentation or get sound. Otherwise, nothing. TECHNOLOGY: Wow, you have 3 computer rooms, although there are plenty of computers I will say, with about 2 printers per room. On a busy day, you might have 10 students per room but NEVER will there be more students than computers. The computers are relatively new (2-3 years old), but since it takes 30 screens to actually get to work, meaning password upon entry screen, upon password, etc. THEN, YES another THEN, the school just instituted a PRINT SCREEN wherein it will charge you if it deems that your work is not school related. This is new as of 2013-2014, so if you are trying to print out a large document and the computer deems it not ARgosy related, there is a screen that bills your account for the printing. Yup, like a KINKO'S!!! Are you kidding? This school gets $2200 per student, per class, per semester and has the gall to charge by the page? FEEL: Once on the floors, there are flatscreens that direct you to classes and show some promise of technology but it feels like a rent-a-school. For all the dough this school takes in, they nickel and dime every student and you almost get the feel that Corey and half the other textbook writers are getting a kickback for their books that haven't been updated since Freud was psychoanalyzing. SUPPORT: All MACC and Clinical Psychology students have an assigned advisor but nearly half have never seen or heard from them. If and when you do get their office hours, it might be once a semester or once a year. FACULTY: Almost all female, almost all African American. Of the full time, on campus professors, this flops a bit to be about 70/30 Caucasian which is fine, no racism going on from the school, but that leads me to the admission process. ADMISSIONS: Argosy does not require a GRE. They require an application, GPA and an interview. The interview is basically to see if your check will clear, nothing more. Never seen anyone turned away from the school once they get to the "interview." The reason I say this is because you fill out paperwork asking if you will be needing financial aid, how much, etc. AID: I have heard nightmares. While I am a pay as you go student, there are many who are not, probably 90%. Of those, nearly 100% admit to late payments, delays in payments, and typical red tape that goes on but far worse than most schools who have it together. GRADUATION: You have to finish classes, comps, practicum and internship before "aaplyuing" for graduation. From there, they "grade audit" you to ensure you have taken all the courses but this can take weeks, even months. DIPLOMA MILL: Well, not exactly. What do you get for all your hard work over 2-3 years, plus 10 months of interning when graduation comes around? NOTHING. I graduated from one of the largest schools in the entire country and when graduation was over, my name was on a diploma, correctly, with my degree and ready for framing. AFTER GRADUATION, the school takes 4-12 weeks to mail your diploma. Yes, I have seen people who "walked" in December get a degree in May. MAY! Why does it take so long? Terribly understaffed where needed, poorly staffed where not needed. OVERALL: The only reason you go to Argosy or any CACREP accredited program is to pass the comps and the NCE. If you do not pass comps or the NCE, there is not point in applying. So what is the unpublished passing rate? 76% in 2014. Yup, 1/4 of all students will fail the NCE when they graduate at Argosy Atlanta. Argosy Universities in other states are as high as 90% or higher. Why is Atlanta lower? You can take a guess, I do not know. STUDENT BODY: The student population is shockingly African-American. It is not that this is Atlanta Metro, but you would have to be a fool to not see some kind of pattern here. About 90% or higher of all MACC program students are AA. WHY? Unsure. Caucasians make up about 5%, other races 5%. Males are non-existent and I barely saw any while I was there. During my three years I never saw a single white male in the program. Not one! That is bizarre, but this is the environment if you wanted to know and have read this far down my review. CONCLUSION: Argosy will get you there, if you can put up with the rent-a-school feel, the poor lounge, the teach it yourself attitude and teachers who are not licensed professionals who practice. I would rather learn from a LPC or NCC than a EDD who spent 3 years on some teaching discipline which is basically unrelated to diagnostic impressions of clients. I called them DR. ED's - because they were talking horses and basically sat in class waiting for you to answer a book they did not even know was required. NCE: Well, you get what you put into or out of anything. If you study hard you could probably pass the NCE without the MA in psychology but it does not work that way. Now the law requires about 3 years of classes PLUS 10 months of interning without pay. You are basically a PhD in this program after investing 4 years of your life in it. PAY: Pay is tough to average. Believe it or not, a LAPC or LPC makes a hair under a psychologists' salary. You might start at $37,000-$45,000 and finish at $75,000. Once you are a full fledged LPC, it just depends on how good you are and how many repeat clients you can take. Few therapists who are ethical can take 10 clients a day, so make that closer to 6-7. At $80 (cash only) per client, that is $500 a day. Not bad. Take out taxes and that is more like $350 a day if you have all cash paying clients. Insurance will pay you about half that when you hang a shingle or work in a group. Expect to bill at $80 and collect at $55. After taxes, about $40 per hour while in private group practice. COST: This is relatively simple to figure out. Take 60 credits and multiply that by $2300 per 3 credits. So it is 20 classes, $2300 per class, or $46,000.00. Add in 5% inflation per year and that adds about $6,000-$8000. So for $54,000 plus books (gotta have your books) add $125 per class if you like new books, $50 per class for used. Go new, you will thank me for it. That is another $2000. So, your total out of pocket cost to get you from ZERO to LAPC/NCC (if you pass all your classes, comps and the NCE that is) is $56,000.00 (plus $3000 as you haven't applied yet and tuition increases 5% a year on average) So that is it from start to finish at ARGOSY of ATLANTA. It is not pretty, often not well taught, but you can do it. Some teachers are worth every penny, but that is very few in that jar. Your friends are you colleagues and they will literally save you from quitting and help you pass comps and the NCE. Get to know your colleagues and work with them, even if you do not like them - after all, you will be being taught by them 20% of the time.

3 of 4 people found the following review helpful
Argosy--OD (Washington DC Campus)
Ed.D Organizational Leadership - November 3, 2014
The Washington, DC campus is outstanding! Excellent instructors and class mates. I am in the dissertation phase and love every moment. Thank you Dr. Klinefelter and team for your leadership and guidance.

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Feb. 8, 2012, 3:23 p.m.
+6 votes/
To the Hamel Family
God will be the one that has to handle Argosy University..They think they are untouchable..but justice will prevail..Watch what God does..Watch Education management, LLC..etc in 2012. God is a God of justice. Argosy University is very crooked and corrupt.
Best advice for others..Stay away from this school!!!!!!!!!!
Oct. 14, 2010, 6:34 p.m.
+5 votes/
Another UoP in the making. I hate this school.
April 14, 2011, 3:11 a.m.
+5 votes/
I was a prof there for 3 years. Yes, It is the WORST. I know it as an insider. Seven reasons you should spend your money alsewhere:

1)They don't care for their profs or their students. 
2)They are NOT accredited by WASC (very important)
3)A few profs (nepotism here)teach 7 courses per term ==> they don't even read students' papers, not fair to students. 
4)They'll take anybody who breathes, as long as they can pay.
5) They are very disorganized and very inefficient.
6) It's a money making machine.
7) Your degree will not get too far. 

Spend your money elsewhere. It's not worth it. 
 
June 30, 2011, 9:33 p.m.
+5 votes/
Beware and DO UR RESEARCH.. I tried to post links to mine but couldnt.  This school and others is owned by EDMC, they are TRADED on the NASDAQ.  The officer on the EDMC website .... very questionable since the receptionist has not heard of them... could they be Bought?  Maybe.... my ex did so (bought officers pics,profiles,names) for the officers of his company from the internet.

This is one of many for profit schools that the GOVERNMENT is cracking down on for students leaving with HIGH DEBT . If they have to take FEDERAL AID away to keep them from doing scrupulous things...SO BE IT and there graduation RATIO is not published because WHY?  I would be curious to see how many actually start,graduate and how much debt they have when they do.

They get you for 2 classes in the beginning for some enrollment BS.... ok people with degree need to go through BS entrance classes...shoulda known was a $cam to it all then....

They will keep changing your schedule, advisors, etc and keep adding more classes that you do not need to take.  One lady was like well you know your stuff... I admit ... I was helping her do her job.  Dont be scammed, follow up and check up on the person who seems to be wanting to help you the most.  I had to delete my number from my profile because they had me on a dialer...how annoying.  BEWARE BEWARE BEWARE.. 

If you think I am a disgrutled student ..NOT I HATE FOR PEOPLE TO BE MADE A FOOL AND  TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF.  JUST GOOGLE THE FOLLOWING PHRASES AND YOU WILL SEE FOR YOURSELF:

EDMC
EDMC ABOUT
EDMC NASDAQ
GOVERNMENT FOR PROFIT SCHOOL JUNE 2011
ARGOSY COMPLAINTS
ARGOSY GRAUDATION RATE
EDMC PRESIDENT
EDMC CHANCELLOR
FORBES STUDENT DEBT
Sept. 9, 2010, 11:46 p.m.
+4 votes/
Hello everyone. Unlike everyone else, I am actually posting with my real first name. I recently passed by comps in the EDDCP program at Argosy Inland Empire. The journey here at Argosy has been incredibly difficult but that is expected since it is a doctorate degree. I have family and friends that attend other private and state universities that share the same complaints like many of the ones posted in this site. I truly don't understand the bitterness of students that demand their hands to be held while they pursue a graduate degree. IT IS NOT MEANT TO BE EASY! Otherwise, everyone would have a graduate degree. I can only speak for myself in saying that the program was tough but I was tougher and I have made it through. Yes, there were a few headbutts with some professors but overall, the experience was great. I am in the dissertation phase now and I expect to finish in about 9 months. I hope this story helps clear up any misunderstandings about Argosy.
June 30, 2011, 9:37 p.m.
+4 votes/
Can ANYONE say CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT waiting to happen....... only a matter of time and those 7.5 BILLION THEY MADE will go where it belongs.... BACK TO THE GOVERNMENT.  Marilyn sounds like she WORKS for EDMC.... wife perhaps of the President.... yeah right... more like OWNER OF EDMC
Nov. 23, 2011, 9:48 a.m.
+4 votes/
please do NOT ever attend this school. this school is a FRAUD! it is absolutely unprofessional. go to a REAL university where they take you more seriously. this school is under investigation for fraud so please reconsider your opinions about attending this school. I have had the worst experience at argosy (san francisco bay area). many other students are filing complaints against the staff.
Jan. 10, 2012, 3:46 a.m.
+4 votes/
Argosy just decreased adjunct faculty pay by $1,000 for a 3 hour credit course on line.  Faculty were just advised today. No explanation of who made this decision, or why. So, those faculty making $2,700 are now making $1,800. These are Ph.Ds making about $12 an hour.

Faculy were told that other institutions pay less. I guess they researched only those that pay less and ignored those that paid more.

It is corporate greed.  And it is true faculty are afraid of administration for fear of being fired.

Now, since the huge pay cut, without any explanation to adjunct faculty or other faculty, many Ph.D.s are going to leave; those that stay will lose motivation and do poor teaching. But as long at the corporation makes money, and profits, it is all ok - is any greed okay?  Reminds me of the beginning of managed care in the medical business - look at what has happened with medical care?  Sad, so sad!
Jan. 24, 2012, 3:05 a.m.
+4 votes/
SF BAY AREA CAMPUS is HORRIBLE!!!!! Everything they say about For Profit schools is true. DO NOT ATTEND ARGOSY! Attend a real university. This place is sub par. It charges USC tuition but gives you a heald business college education.
Aug. 10, 2010, 2:08 a.m.
+3 votes/
I AM A CURRENT GRAD STUDENT IN ONE OF THE ARGOSIES THAT THEIR PROGRAMES ARE ACCREDITED FROM APA! FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR HEALTH AND YOUR PARENT'S, WHO MAY PAY A VAST AMOUNT OF FEES TO THIS COMPANY, PLEASE STAY AWAY FROM IT!

ESPECIALLY, IF YOU ARE AN INTERNATIONAL STUDENT AND PLAN TO STUDY AT THIS SCHOOL, BE AWARE THAT THERE ARE STUDENTS WHO CAN NOT SECURE A PRACTICUM ON THE 2ND YEAR OF THEIR STUDIES BECAUSE OF THE BIG COMPETITION TO FIND A PLACEMENT AND CUZ SOME SITES REQUIRE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS (IF YOU R NOT US CITIZEN IT 'S DIFFICULT TO OBTAIN ONE W THE RECENT LAW). HOWEVER, ON THEIR CONTRACTS THEY DON'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE PRACTICUM PROCESS EXCEPT OF THIS VAGUE STATEMENT :"I UNDERSTAND MY GRADUATION DATE IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE DEPENDING ON THE TIMELY COMPLETION OF ALL PROGRAME REQUIREMENTS".

IN MY CASE, I HAVE TO ABANDON THE UNITED STATES IN CASE I DON T SECURE A PRACTICUM, CUZ I HAVE TO BE A FULL-TIME STUDENT ON MY VISA. SINCE I HAVE JUST 4 CLASSES REMAINED FOR THE COMPLETION OF MY MASTER, I CAN NOT CONTINUE MY STUDIES THIS YEAR (2ND AND LAST ONE) WITHOUT A PRACTICUM. THIS MEANS THAT ARGOSY INTERRUPTS MY STUDIES! ALTHOUGH, I ASKED MANY QUESTIONS ESPECIALLY ABOUT PRACTICUM BEFORE I SIGNED THEIR CONTRACT AND BEFORE TO TAKE SUCH A BIG DESICION TO COME FROM ANOTHER CONTINENT TO THIS SCHOOL, NO ARGOSY INFORMED ME ABOUT THESE POSSIBILITIES!

IN ACCORDANCE, THEY DIDN'T TAKE ANY RESPONSIBILITY ABOUT A PRACTICUM OFFER THAT I LOST CUZ THEY DIDN'T KNOW UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES THEIR FOREIGN STUDENTS CAN OBTAIN SSN WHICH WAS REQUIRED FROM THE PRACTICUM SITE THAT I GOT THE OFFER. THEY WERE GIVING ME WRONG INFO AND THEN I FOUND OUT BY MYSELF THE LAWS AND RULES FOR OBTAINING SSN BUT IT WAS TOO LATE. 

I WISH NO ONE TO HAVE SUCH AN ACADEMIC EXPERIENCE AS MINE.  ARGOSY FOR ME, MY PEOPLE AND MY PARENTS WHO ARE SO FAR AWAY AND CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO HELP, IS A REAL NIGHTMARE! WORSEN THAN CANCER!
Aug. 18, 2010, 3:58 a.m.
+3 votes/
I had simillar experience with you CURRENT STUDENT in my ARgosy school. What you undergo is very frustrating. When I was reading your review, it was like I was rexperiencing all that trauma (LOL) i had when I was searching alone in a foreign country a site in order to develop my own practicum. And yes, I agree that they do not speak clearly regarding practicum process before you are enrolled in the school! Besides the nightmare of finding a practica though, I am very satisfied with the training I received from Argosy. Try to speak with professors who know you and can help you with this matter and push push push a lot the staff from training department cuz whatever they promise if you do not push them your job will not be done! At least, that's what I did with my training dept. Wish you GOOD LUCK and STAY CALM & POSITIVE :)
Aug. 18, 2010, 8:50 a.m.
+3 votes/
Argosy is under investigation by the DOE for fraud.  Investors have filled class action suit to get back the loss of their stocks.  This university is in alot of trouble.
Sept. 11, 2010, 12:13 a.m.
+3 votes/
My experience with Argosy-Dallas, in the community counseling program, has been beyond unpleasant and disappointing.  The lack of professionalism and responsiveness is unacceptable.  The majority of administrators are pompous, without merit.  The coursework is unchallenging.  I had to constantly fight the urge to correct the misinformation and mispronunciations of one particular professor.  This same professor has an superiority complex and becomes passive-aggressive when asked a simple clarifying question.  The department chair is a pompous a _ _ who does not have the character to do handle student grievances.  Argosy-Dallas has been an extremely negative and unfruitful experience.  I will be transferring to a university with a positive reputaion.
Jan. 1, 2011, 6:15 p.m.
+3 votes/
I recently graduated with a BA in Psychology at Argosy.  My teachers were all helpful and caring. I still keep in touch with some of them.  I am currently pursuing a master's in counseling at Argosy and I have talented and caring teachers again.  I take full responsibility for my education and I go above and beyond duty.   I believe that at some point the student need to be responsible for his/her attitude towards his/her education.  I have met students in the PSY program who are clearly not suited for the helping profession.  I wonder if some of the former students who posted their negative experiences from Argosy University are negative people. 
Jan. 17, 2011, 6:14 p.m.
+3 votes/
 Maybe you had a good experience....but it seems that the majority of people voicing their opinion here did not. In fact it looks like about 80% or so of the people on this  review page had a bad experience at Argosy. Unacceptable. I tried the on-line program, and was lied to.       Prospective students are told that they will have a personal academic advisor and student support    anytime they need it, from admissions to graduation,  and are told they will   have access to a 24 hour student help desk,.. and are told that certain programs are accredited ..when they are not, and are also told they will be able to take a break between 7.5 week sessions, when clearly you can't. I also consulted my advisor  and was told what material to know for an assessment quiz...and when I viewed the quiz...more than half of the questions related to material I'd never   seen before. I called/e-mailed the "24" help desk for assistance...guess how long they took to get back to me..  1 WEEK?!...how was that supposed to help me with good timely submission of my assignments.     The so-called assistant director of admissions people work on commission (illegal)...they don't care    whether you're prepared   for class, all they want is to make their sales quotas so they  can keep their jobs/benefits and receive their regular paychecks. A  used car salesman is    a perfect fit for  this position    When u say students have to take responsibility for their own education...then why does the school greatly advertise student support     ( from admissions to graduation)...when the school is clearly independent    study. And how many people  got their hopes up to go back to school...only to find out too late they've been hoodwinked, and are now worse off than when they started. 
April 14, 2011, 5:44 p.m.
+3 votes/
This school is a joke. They grade students low  in order to fail them so that you are forced to retake the course. Then if you fail too much you are kicked out and have spent your money for nothing. They don't care about their students, they don't care about their staff. Teachers are either under worked or over worked. Students are over worked and then failed on bogus grades regardless of progress and knowledge. 
Sept. 2, 2011, 11:52 p.m.
+3 votes/
I am complaining of the unfairness and unjust system of Argosy. I am an online student, and have been for three years, then as of today find out they have kicked me out of school for what??? I wasn't notified before today, I had been active in my class as of this past Tuesday, then Wednesday I didn't have access(thought it was maybe just my computer) so I blue it off. Then I tried again Wednesday no access. Called last night spoke to tech support and they tell me I was withdrawn!!! FOR WHAT!!!!! spoke to 3 different academic counselors with 3 different stories. Spoke to a academic manager who totally contradicted what her colleagues just told me and still didn't have a good reason for this! They just got paid for my new semester, keeping my stipend and the rest of the 15,0000 they just received on my behalf and kicking me to the curb. For three years never had this problem and the fact the lady told me no reason and she wasn't reinstating me HURTS!!!!!!! and I AM PISSED!!! I'm not a teen, I am a full grown woman with a family  & this is the worst!!!!! WTH!!!!!!! Can anyone give me a name and number to an advocate lawyer?? I need to get in school again and they DON'T deserve a penny!!!!
Oct. 22, 2011, 3:17 p.m.
+3 votes/
I agree! this school is not worth all of the money that we have paid. And as far as the teachers are concerned,they are very obstinate, inflexible and uncaring
Oct. 13, 2010, 10:36 p.m.
+2 votes/
To whom it may concern: 

IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE THIRTEENTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FL

CASE NO.:  09 11228
DIVISION    K

CASEY HAMEL,  
Plaintiff, 	

v.
								
EDUCATION MANAGEMENT, LLC a wholly-owned subsidiary of EDUCATION MANAGEMENT HOLDINGS, LLC,
which is wholly-owned by EDUCATION MANAGEMENT CORPORATION; ARGOSY UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA, INC.; ARGOSY EDUCATION GROUP, INC.; 

MELANIE STORMS, Psy.D; JAMES HARLOW, Psy.D; JEANNE PETERSON, Psy.D; KATHIE BATES, Ph.D;
KATHERINE McKay, Ph.D; KRISTEN HUDACEK, Psy.D; CRAIG SWENSON, Ph.D; and MICHAEL FALOTICO, Psy.D.
Defendants.

From:  The Hamel Family
Although we remain convinced that our daughter was not treated fairly by Argosy University Tampa, after considerable time, expense, and effort, we have been unable to document or uncover any pattern of abuse of students or other wrongful conduct on the part of the Tampa campus or the University as a whole.  Although our daughter's experience was not a positive one, it appears that her experience was not typical, and we apologize if we dissuaded any potential students from considering Argosy based on our postings to this site.
Jan. 20, 2011, 10:21 p.m.
+2 votes/
I worked for Argosy University at their Dallas campus. All I can say is that place sucks. That was perhaps the worse job I've ever had. It's full of delusional wannabes. Their degree costs around 150 grand and is not even APA accredited. Their Forensic Psychology degree program doesnt even allow you to become a Forensic psychologist. Hands down this place is crap.

There are a couple of the recruiters (Assistant Director of Admissions) who are so extremely weird.

Anyway trust me you are better off at a different school.
Aug. 31, 2011, 1:57 p.m.
+2 votes/
What are you referring to? I'm a grad student at Arg. Seattle, 2nd yr. Is there a chance AU will get shut down?
Oct. 22, 2011, 3:10 p.m.
+2 votes/
Thank you for the honest feedback. I wish that I would have read all of the comments here before signing up for this money pit
Jan. 7, 2012, 4:48 a.m.
+2 votes/
AGROSY UNIVERSITY
1515 Central Parkway  Eagan, MN 55121
(651) 846-2882
(952) 656-5086

Harasses people and potential customers by continuously calling every 2 hours.
Let this be a warning to everyone!!!!!!!!!
Feb. 8, 2012, 3:55 p.m.
+2 votes/
DC
These are not opinions..they are facts..This has nothing to do about forgiveness.God is a just God. I forgive them them..
I am a minister..but I am not going to,let them screw me over. 
April 18, 2012, 1:24 a.m.
+2 votes/
I would like to sue for tution reimbursement for my credits with school psychology. I quit that program because my posting got graded before I submitted my paper! I was not being evualated like I was supposed to be in graduate school. 
July 24, 2012, 1:18 p.m.
+2 votes/
I agree with you. I am so disgusted with this school.They set students up to fail. No guidelines whatsoever. Imagine as a practicing psychologist in the field failing their comp  exam twice. These professors seem to have bought their degrees. Look at the structure of the Module. Identified instead of identify and analyzed instead of analyze.When I saw this I was somewhat suspicious. These professors are big time dunces they dont know what is going on in the real world. BIG TIME ROBBERY and it is time to put a stop to this bull---- 
July 24, 2012, 3:07 p.m.
+2 votes/
I totally agree! I did not get anything from this school but,
A huge loan 200,000 and no Degree! No assistance, no respectt,
No guidance! The Department of Education should shut this 
So called University down!!! And refund all loan monies back to
The Federal government! 
Feb. 22, 2008, 5:07 p.m.
+1 vote/
Argosy is a for profit university system that provides an education for professionals and practitioner based psych degrees.  This is common knowledge - I find it interesting that people act suprised after they have had an unpleasant experience and start complaining of something they knew of before they enrolled.  Many of the problems associated with for profit schools stem from students that assume a pay-to-play mentality and become shocked when they actually are held responsible for their academic performance.  

It is true that each of the campuses have their strengths and downfalls.  I have attended both large research-based universities and Argosy.  My experience is that the incompetance level and useless curriculum of the state univ's far exceeded Argosy.  Tuition is high, but it is what it is - and it's fully disclosed.  As a title IV school that is APA accredited (though not all are), it is hardly "predatory."

There are SO many choices for education out there, not doing your research is beyond ridiculous.  These "user review" sites have some good info in them but they are frequently places for just the complaints.  After-all, who would look for a licensure track clinical psych or counseling program at "onlinedegreereviews.com?"
Feb. 28, 2008, 2:25 a.m.
+1 vote/
former student2 and Reality - CHECK,

I have no problem with onlinedegreereviews.ORG or any other site (by the way, you can buy a '.org' just as easily as you can buy a '.com' - so don't think that is an entitlement to anything.)  My point is that quality Clinical Psych degrees are not online programs.

As far as not having incentive to weed out unqualified students, the APA has STRICT standards when it comes to attrition rates, so if the school is APA accredited, it must meet these requirements.  The APA doesn't goof around.

I am not in the Clinical program at Argosy, but I have worked as a workstudy.  I did talk to students within the Clinical program and yes, they have complaints. But when I asked about clinical internship placement they told me that 86% were placed last year and most of the ones that didn't were not placed due to their own geographic restrictions.  MOST of the students complained about the "3 c's and you're out" rule.  Sounds like weeding out to me...

Reality - CHECK,
Get real.  There are schools out there that pump out degrees with no academic checks and balances - for those that just want to ante-up and get the paper.  I definitely can "bash" the other students that show up to class, attach themself to a good student, and expect to graduate off of their merits. 

For-profit schools are a business.  Like any other business, if you do not have a quality product, it will fail - unless your selling a lesser quality product for a good price.  Argosy ain't cheap - I'm paying for it.  We'll see if was worth it when I'm done...
May 12, 2008, 11:23 a.m.
+1 vote/
To I didn't listen:

I am sorry you learned your lesson the hard way, but to help others and so they don't have to experiment what you did, rate your experience. Hopping it gets better for you. 

Best of luck.
Oct. 6, 2008, 9:54 p.m.
+1 vote/
Argosy University's "request information" page on their website is the greatest thing to come from the internet.  If you put someone's name, email, and phone number they will call/email the S-H-I-T out of it.  Seriously, put down someone's number, and they'll get a phone call within 10 minutes then about 7-8 more calls over the course of the next 3 days.  Argosy is such a piece of s-h-i-t!
March 4, 2009, 8:23 a.m.
+1 vote/
OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASS HOLES, EVERYBODY'S GOT ONE. YOU CAN'T ALWAYS PLEASE EVERYONE, GRANTED SOME MAY HAVE VALID REASONS AND SOME MAY NOT, BUT DON'T YOU HAVE ANYTHING BETTER TO DO THAN DOWNGRADE AN INSTITUTION. YES THEY ARE A FOR-PROFIT SCHOOL, "A BUSINESS:, BUT GROW UP AND LET IT GO AND GET YOUR EDUCATION SOMEWHRE ELSE AND FOR GOD SAKES, SHUT UP ALREADY!
LEARN FROM IT, AND OPEN YOUR OWN SCHOOLS AND SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL COMPLAIN. THEY ALWAYS WILL NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY. 

GOOD BLESS YOU ALL, MAY YOU FIND PEACE IN YOUR HEART TO FORGIVE PEOPLE, AND TRY TO BE A GOOD EXAMPLE TO OTHERS.
March 9, 2009, 9:08 p.m.
+1 vote/
I attended Argosy and received my Master's in Education.  I did the program online.  I can tell you plainly, education is what you make it.  Some classes were painful and challenging.  Some professors were very easy, but that's the experience I had at my undergrad university.  I mean I'm shocked to see all the negative reviews.  I might have thought twice if I would have seen this.  It is a little expensive, but it was comparable to other private online  universities.  Very sorry to hear these complaints, but I have the degree now.  I might not have chosen this university.  Oh well, it's too late and I have to make the best of it.
July 14, 2009, 9:25 p.m.
+1 vote/
I have also filed a lawsuit they shouldn't be allowed to behave like this.
Jan. 5, 2010, 5:30 a.m.
+1 vote/
Argosy is a JOKE...All they want is your money. Their executives pay is tied to the bottom line..how much money the get from students. It is not a university by any standard. It is a corporation selling degree. If you can pay for it, they will give it to you. Education is not their mission. Making money for the stock holders is. They mostly focus on balck men and women as they are working class citizens and AU keep them enrolled in weekend classes just to keep them in their system as long as possible. Students are cash cow. Trust me, all they care is your money. Run Run Run as far as you can and go to a school that value education. NOT your money..
March 1, 2010, 5:10 p.m.
+1 vote/
Dear Lucydiva19 - you too may want to do some research of your own.  NOT ALL of the campuses are APA certified.  In fact the majority of them are not.  I am glad that you are having a good experience but there are many who are not as well as many lawsuits being filed.  I wish you the best but recommend that you not jump to conclusions.
March 8, 2010, 3:02 p.m.
+1 vote/
I am in the Master's program in forensic psychology after getting my bachelor's from a respectable traditional school. Basically my job doesn't allow me to go back to a traditional school at this time so I'm getting my Master's here and then hopefully go back to a traditional school for my doctorate. But after reading all the comments, I've experienced both at traditional schools, education anywhere is what you make of it. My city school had professors that cared about you and others that just read power point slides to you, some thought they were God's gift to teaching and the financial aid sucked so that you wound up paying for most of it out of pocket. My husband went to a private college and his course work was so damn easy it was absurd. My point being that if this is your only option make the best of it. Yeah its expensive and you'll have teachers that suck but thats in every school. Do some research know what you're getting into and make an intelligent decision not based on the comments here because its based on other's personal experience not your own.
April 18, 2010, 2:38 p.m.
+1 vote/
I am a former "ADA" (Assistant Director of Admissions) at Argosy Online, and even though I could re-tell horror after horror about that place, I can only stomach a couple. First, just the admissions title is meant to deliberately deceive. The university uses the title "ADA" or Assistant Director of Admissions for their admissions officers because they want the unsuspecting prospects to think they are talking with someone in charge, someone at the top of the admissions department. The admissions officers are trained to say they are THE Assistant Director of Admissions and would help them. What the prospect doesn't realize is there are about 200 or so Assistant Directors of Admissions "on the floor". The floor is Argosy's in house term for call center, a huge phone room with a couple hundred ADAs continuously calling leads. The ADAs, most of whom are under the gun daily to produce applications and get students registered for classes, are just regular people trying to bring home a paycheck. Unfortunately, their paychecks are totally determined by the numbers they produce, and many ADAs are unable to bring in the requisite numbers. Pay is determined by the "Matrix", a scale which dictates raises or decreases in "salary". I use the term salary loosely since the ADAs are actually on a masked commission. The university says that there are also other determining factors, (how good your speech comes across, a "Quality Conversation"), but the bottom line is how many students you sit (how many people you can get into class). Based on my understanding, colleges cannot have admissions people paid on a commission basis; however, Argosy gets around it with the Matrix... believe me, the admissions people are definately on a commission. Since the "Second Directors" (the Assistant Directors' of Admissions immediate supervisors) are all competing to bring in new students, the best leads are given to a few people whom they like, the favored ADAs. So, a few ADAs make good money based on the Matrix, although most ADAs get pay reductions. During the time I worked there (about 6 months) I saw many ADAs fired for lack of production. They struggled while the few favored ADAs got all the good leads and on-line applications.
April 18, 2010, 2:39 p.m.
+1 vote/
Continued....
The place is a nightmare to work for. Fortunately, I was able to escape. There are many people there who have nowhere else to go, they are stuck. I tried to contact the accrediting body, the Higher Learning Commission, North Central Association about Argosy when I was working there to tell them about these horrors, however they would not accept anonymous complaints (I hid my identity since I was still there). I have since made a written complaint. I urge anyone who has worked there or was a victim of Argosy to write the North Central Association. By the way, if you have yet to request info about Argosy, I would advise you against it. Once they have your information, they will relentlessly pursue you with unending phone calls and e-mails. Save yourself the aggrevation!
June 1, 2010, 4:42 a.m.
+1 vote/
It is amazing how so many get pulled into this scam.  Diploma mills are on the rise, especially with the popularity of the internet.  My advice to all that wish to attend graduate school, particularly a doctoral program, is to get good undergraduate grades, study hard for the GMAT/GRE, get some research experience, research your options, and then apply to well-respected programs.  I know that programs like these give some of us "hope" that we can become a "doctor" the easy way, skip the GRE, etc., but guess what, becoming a doctor is hard work.  It isn't meant to be easy.  Receiving a graduate degree takes years of hard work, ambition, and sacrifice.  The idea is to become an expert in your filed, and the easy route won't get you there.

Bottom line: Argosy and it's peers are nothing more than diploma mills.  Why not attend a public or private research university?  If your answer includes: its too hard, I don' t wan't to study for the GRE, I can't get in, etc.  than maybe you aren't cut out for graduate level work.  If state schools won't accept you but Argosy will, what does that tell you?  In the end, your diploma (if you are one of the few to complete the program) won't be worth the paper it is printed on.  Your degree is only worth as much as the respect of the university it came from.

There was a point I considered the Argosy route.  Like many (probably a few reading this) I didn't have the grades to apply, I was terrified of the GRE, and didn't believe I could succeed in a competitive program.  But one day I realized I was making a choice that would predict my future, and I didn't want a $100,000 piece of paper, I wanted to "earn" the right to be a doctor.  So I pulled up my GPA, studied hard for the GRE, got some research experience, and applied to a prestigious doctoral program - and guess what -  I got accepted with full tuition reimbursement and a nice assistantship stipend.  It can happen - if you want it bad enough and are willing to work hard for it.  In the end, nothing worth much isn't earned.
Aug. 1, 2010, 5:24 p.m.
+1 vote/
There's about 80 reviews of the school here,  with I'd say about 95%    being pretty harshly negative. Not a lot of gray area here. Is there a pattern here?! Any mildly educated person would say yes. Bottom line? This isn't a real school. This is a"FOR-PROFIT" enterprise, a business first ( not an educational institution) getting your money,    marketing and sales is their highest priority, and they're legally and politically  good at it?! That's where they  place their efforts. If they placed their efforts in the classroom, there wouldn't be so many complaints about incompetent instruction, and student advising , etc. they don't care about that part of their  program. Probably any positive comment comes from an Argosy employee. When the school has enough of your money...they'll fail or dismiss you, and if you do make it through to graduation..employers will probably find your degree worthless.  A recent review found Argosy and Western Governers University the bottom 5 in on-line schools. Need I say more
Aug. 16, 2010, 5:58 p.m.
+1 vote/
MY COMMENT: PLEASE, RUN, RUN, RUN DO NOT GET HURT!!THESE PEOPLE ARE ROOTHLESS!
Oct. 22, 2011, 4:17 p.m.
+1 vote/
Thank you. I will research the possibilities of a lawsuit 
Dec. 19, 2011, 4:26 a.m.
+1 vote/
Totally pleased with the school even won a laptop at New Year raffle!!!
Jan. 24, 2012, 3:09 a.m.
+1 vote/
Let's so hope they do so that no more students will get ripped off.
Feb. 8, 2012, 3:43 p.m.
+1 vote/
Almost a Student
That is the best decision you have ever made. 
Feb. 8, 2012, 3:50 p.m.
+1 vote/
If you can go somewhere else  do it..Don't answer them..go to another school.  
July 5, 2012, 3:31 p.m.
+1 vote/
Well,I have to say that my academic counselor is great. Her name is Ryan and she always checks on me. I read a post about teachers grading low on purpose, and I do not agree. You have to put in the work. I will graduate win August and overall have been pleased. The professors are good and fair. The only complaint is that my finance counselor changes a lot. However, I stay on top of my aid to ensure that nothing is wrong. Remember, everyone has a boss and sometimes you need to go up the chain to get things done right. Overall, I am pleased with the services. I will probably not take my MA there, only because I need a clinical degree. Other than that, I feel that it is has been a pleasant experience. 
July 24, 2012, 3 p.m.
+1 vote/
This school should be shut down! The Desn of Education is 
Unprofessional and  immature. The teachers on campus are immature and
Lack professionalism. The school only wants your student loan money!
Beware you will regret attending this  school.
Aug. 25, 2012, 10:35 p.m.
+1 vote/
I am waiting to receive my second stipend from financial aid and have yet to receive it...I'm trying to find out when do you usually receive a stipend, because my pell grants havn't been approved yet and I'm waiting to pay my educational expenses. 
Aug. 29, 2012, 3:36 a.m.
+1 vote/
I have just begun my continued education with Argosy University. So far my introduction and orientation have been great. Everyone at Argosy University has been extremely helpful in leading me through the process. My admissions representative has been great as well as my financial aid counselor and academic counselor. So far my experience is outstanding.
Sept. 19, 2012, 9:03 p.m.
+1 vote/
WORST EXPERIENCE. There are so many horrible things you can say about this school. I don't even know where to start.

I started the Vet tech program last january and they allowed me to start within a couple days of touring the school. Which I thought was a nice so my first impression was great. Then I realized shortly that only half the teachers actually cared about what they teach, which made it so hard for me to get myself out of bed and drive to class when it was such a half ass effort on their part. Then I get to the end of the semester and find out the my financial aid never went through. I tried reapplying but I had so many issues, which had to do with my name change, but I was VERY DISAPOINTED when I went and made multiple appointments with student services to "help" me. They didn't know what they were doing. 

So I couldn't start up with my new summer semester because I owed thousands and thousands of dollars out of pocket. SO when I enrolled for the fall, after going through a bunch of loop holes and 6 phone conversations, never to the same person may I add, I get signed up for the semester. Now my other loan won't get approved by my school, and I just can't even handle walking into such a JOKE of a school that after long consideration I decided I will go somewhere else. I have been trying to drop out of classes for 3 days now, and no one will call me back. I have called 10 times and left respectful messages. Yesterday i got a return call and she tells me that the add/drop period has already passed. AFTER ONE WEEK OF CLASS? Ok maybe when a student enrolls they should tell them that the deadline is one week. NOT to mention if someone had been returning my phone calls I would have made it. So I have to pay for 50 percent of my tuition? For one week of class?

I am still waiting for a call back, I have called every hour on the hour since noon. 

DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS ENROLL HERE. I am 27 and was looking for a career change, I wish I wouldn't made this choice because now I am out thousands of dollars because their admissions can't get their act together. 

WORST EXPERIENCE.

Only positive thing I can say is half the Vet Tech teachers are very passionate about what they do and teach. It's not their fault they are limited to teaching at for-profit schools. 
Sept. 22, 2012, 10:53 p.m.
+1 vote/
I had and am having a great experience there. Finished my BA in Psych in Feb (got my diploma and everything) and started in the MA-CC a month ago. Did and continue to do 100% FA the entire way. Amazing experience the entire way through. No telemarketing, so I do not know what that is about. Professors are amazing and experienced. I would not have gone back had it not been a good experience. They have helped me network and made introductions that will set me up for my internship when the time comes. Very success driven. I work hard and get out of it what I put into it. Everyone I worked with on my financial aid, scheduling, advising, etc have been very professional. I have been very happy there and have not experienced any of the issues complained about. I started there in 2008 and am on my 2nd dg with them, No problem with employment with the help of them either. 
Sept. 27, 2012, 11:36 p.m.
+1 vote/
Wow I was just about to attend the LA campus, I'm so glad I saw this before I attended......who attended the LA campus
Oct. 7, 2012, 3:58 p.m.
+1 vote/
I am very dissatisfied with this school!!!!   Started in 2010 and now am six classes from my degree and they tell me I still need 10k more, that was the end of my degree !   How is that possible?  No one had answers!!!  
Oct. 11, 2012, 1:46 a.m.
+1 vote/
Arogsy University is a joke and scam. I specifically told the university I could not take out anymore loans or pay out of pocket. Four weeks into my current class I'm billed a $13,000 bill. They took $9,000 out in student loans and have billed me the rest to pay out of pocket. I have called, left numerous voice mails and e-mails for my "finance advisor", and in the 4 weeks I have attended, just now heard from her today. I requested documentations on my finances, have yet to see them. Absolutely horrible school, they don't want to help.
Dec. 11, 2012, 10:23 p.m.
+1 vote/
Disaster!!! DO NOT ENROLL! They keep asking for money when I had already paid the amount that was stated to me for the course. They keep throwing expenses at me that they claim they told me about when i am extremely diligent about making payments and very responsible about payments in every area of my life and i know they never told me about. They are money seeking manipulative and very corrupt! Do Not even think about attending the online school program. I enrolled on the information that i had payed everything i made a LARGE payment out of pocket i had saved up a long time i asked more than once and was reassured it was the last amount and it wasn't. I was manipulated and when i finally had enough and wanted to talk to someone how i felt in a calm and respectful manner they kept passing me around from person to person and gave me a run around with no resolve and most of the people i talked to would start arguments with me when i was being patient and calm.I truly felt i wad bullied and manipulated. Do NOT ENROLL! Money Pitt!!!
March 18, 2007, 7:07 p.m.
0 votes/
This is the worst school I have ever attended. Of the inital class I began with, nearly HALF have been dismissed.  Most did not pass the clinical competency exams.  Most were 3.5 and up students with no academic problems.  Many had over $100,000 in student loans invested as well.  

The problem is that the faculty are AFRAID of the administration and the administration's sole purpose is ensuring "placement" of its students. Several faculty have confided in me that they HATE Argosy.  

If I could go back in time, I NEVER would have stepped foot in Argosy.
May 6, 2007, 2:48 a.m.
0 votes/
I asked the recruiter --what was the grad rate..she told me 85%
I was also told 42,000 dollars in tuition, for completion of the entire program. 
And yes, i did ask the recruiter about the comp exams..she explained "oh. they will review the questions ---which are essays."
I would definitely like to read more reviews (+ or -)  before attending.
Aug. 17, 2007, 8:16 p.m.
0 votes/
What a great program!  caring Instructors, personable administration.  Courses at my pace, but academically challenging.  Best decision I ever made was to enroll!
Sept. 30, 2007, 3:02 p.m.
0 votes/
I am going to have to agree with the first commentor. As a former student, I speak from experience. The faculty is not supportive of its students, particularly those of color. Its the kind of environment that requires a lot of reliance on self. So if you're looking for a supportive environment that understands your distinct needs, I would look elsewhere. . .
Oct. 22, 2007, 1:53 a.m.
0 votes/
I'm finishing up my third class and considering transfering NOT because it's a bad school but because you have to complete 51% in a blended mannor meaning the course is online but you must attend three classes (a weekend) and I don't want to travel the three hours or leave my child. I have had some good teachers and 1 butt hole!!!
Nov. 20, 2007, 10:21 a.m.
0 votes/
AU is a comprehensive, well-established distance education organization. I have found it to have good curriculum and very competent faculty and staff. To study online requires discipline. This school really helps its students to maintain their academics. I would recommend this university to my peers.
Dec. 3, 2007, 10:52 p.m.
0 votes/
I would not send my dog to Argosy University.  There is nothing educational about any of the classes.  The professors know very little of the subject matter they teach.  The university's sole purpose is promoting political agendas and milking students out of money.  Students who have the ability to think for themselves are harassed, mistreated, and referred to student disciplinary committees.  The programs are very unorganized and staff changes constantly so no one can ever help you out with any issues.  Students are withdrawn from courses, receive unmerited failing grades, charged inaccurate fees, and lied to about the courses they have left to take.  Attending Argosy is like being trapped in quicksand.  You never get out.  The longer you try the more trapped you become by debt.   Whites (especially those who identify as Christian) are ridiculed, belittled, and blamed for all of society's problems.  They advertise the programs as being convenient for individuals who work full-time.  They fail to inform you that they expect you to quit your job to complete the internship your last year.  Issues are never addressed and complaints are never resolved.  It is better to remain uneducated than to be screwed by Argosy University.
Dec. 3, 2007, 10:55 p.m.
0 votes/
The individuals who made positive remarks in their posts regarding Argosy University are obviously faculty members or staff.  I have never met any AU student who was happy or who would refer anyone to the university.  Argosy sucks.
Dec. 13, 2007, 5:37 p.m.
0 votes/
The one thing that applies to all Argosy programs and campuses is that Argosy is a business first and foremost and an educational institution second.  Consequently almost every aspect of their programs is colored by their #1 goal which is to make a profit.  This can be seen in their high tuition rates, their low teacher salaries (and high staff turnover), and the fact that they admit as many students as possible knowing full well that they cannot graduate all of them even if they are all excellent students.  They have to find a reason to fail or dismiss students at some point because they admit more students than they can place clinically.  If there are not enough poor students then they will fabricate reasons to get students off track or dismiss them altogether.  This leaves many Argosy students left with massive debt and nothing to show for it.

I have had some good instructors at Argosy, but I have never seen a good instructor stick around for very long because Argosy does not value quality education enough to incent good teachers to stay.
Dec. 6, 2007, 7:40 p.m.
0 votes/
I paid $450 a credit for instructors with 2-year degrees and little experience to read PowerPoint slides to me.

Argosy does not take care of its students.  You are a warm body with dollar signs on your head and nothing more.

Huge staff turnover!  I don't believe they pay their instructors well enough to get good people to stick around.  

I agree 100% with the following statement from above...
"Students who have the ability to think for themselves are harassed, mistreated, and referred to student disciplinary committees."

Argosy does not care about their students at all.  They have insurance for lawsuits and besides they know that after they have finished robbing your pocketbook you wont be able to afford an attorney.
Dec. 5, 2007, 10:11 p.m.
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I am currently in my 8th class on the DBA program with a concentration in Information Systems. I have nothing but great things to say about AU and I have a couple of friends that have attained there PhD's from AU already, which is why I chose it. The professors are great and being that I am already working in the IT industry and have been for the past 10 years, my core classes are easy to me. What I have seen from students that are complaining is that they don't comprehend the material and get upset becasue of that. With any University you have to buckle down and hit the books when you are home on a Friday or Saturday night, you can't go out partying and you have an assignment due on Sunday. I have about 8 more class left, plus my comps and dissertation. Just call me Doctor.
Dec. 5, 2007, 10:48 p.m.
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Very pleased - I completely comprehended the material at Argosy.  Their courses were easy.  Paid for every semester except the last one and maintained a perfect 4.0 before they dismissed me when it was to their advantage.  Argosy treats their students like crap.  They treat you great at first when they want you to attend and spend money but when it comes time for them to deliver on their commitments they will discard you when it is convenient for them.  Good luck.  You may be ok if you are already employed in the IT industry and have an employer who is interested in hiring you as a DBA.  Other companies will laugh at you.  If you can get a job as a DBA take it and strike Argosy from your resume.  Experience will be respected a great deal more than a degree from Argosy.
Dec. 5, 2007, 10:53 p.m.
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Vera - I also have never met an Argosy student in person who was happy or who would refer anyone to the university.  Ditto on the Argosy sucks.  I challenge any student who claims to have had a good experience at Argosy (and has actually graduated and secured employment) to post their real name.
Dec. 7, 2007, 3:26 a.m.
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I would advice NO PERSON to attended this school!! WAST OF MONEY!!!!!! RUN FAR AWAY!!!!!!! Most people drop out of thier clinical psych. program thier first semester!!! That should say somthing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dec. 10, 2007, 4:15 a.m.
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Very pleased student:
Do not flatter yourself. You are obviously oblivious to the fact that you do not have to be "smart" to be accepted to any of Argosy's programs--including the DBA program.
You mentioned that some of your friends attended Argosy and that this is the reason you decided to enroll. I work with two graduates of Argosy University’s doctoral program, and they are about as smart as baboons. They too use phrases like “being that!” They also admit that it did not matter to them that the school is considered academically substandard—they just wanted the pay increase that went along with the PhD—not an education.
Dec. 10, 2007, 4:29 p.m.
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I have observed that Argosy preys upon the following vulnerable groups of students...

1)  Students with a poor academic record who may not be able gain admission to a more reputable college.

2)  Students who are uninformed about their education options and the importance of weighing cost vs. value.  Many students are not aware of how just how great the variety is in educational quality and reputation among for-profit private schools.

3)  Adult students with children who have responsibilities and are attracted to the convenience of online or evening programs.
Dec. 10, 2007, 4:31 p.m.
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It makes me sick that Argosy is permitted to use the word "University" in its name.
Dec. 10, 2007, 7:36 p.m.
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My experience with Argosy University was not a pleasant one.   The professors that I took classes with, some were just recent graduated from other universities and there was one that did not have any etiquette when it came to grading, he just put the grades to everyone to see, I requested him that in the future my feedback and grade to be sent privately and not open to anyone to see, the professor told me that was oaky to that, since everyone could see all my mistakes. I was fine with criticism but not with the open exposure of the grading.  Anyway I told my advisor about this, and they did not do anything.
The classes share the same format as University of Phoenix, are canned and always using group project, and there very inflexible and are bound for 7 ½ weeks format,  I hated to be in group project, because you have to hunt down the other group members to participate and or they did not do their fair share of their work, Argosy forces you to register in classes in advance when you use student loans,    I found the program not flexible you have to be enrolled in every term of the threaten you to drop.
Another issue is that the University had, they seem not to have reciprocity among their campuses.  For instance I was doing an online program DBA and was told that I need to go to Chicago Illinois to attend their residency, I told them that it was very difficult for me to attend this residency when I was told to do it, so basically I was told by my Advisor that I was required to attend the residency before my 5 fifth class or the university would drop me.  I asked if I could attend a near campus of Argosy for my residency, and I was told I could not do it due to their format.  
I questioned this because all their campuses are accredited  from the same accrediting agency and it should not be a problem to transfer or take classes on the other campuses,  I was told that the program were not the same and the format was different and they could not guarantee transfer of credit to other campuses. That sealed the deal to leave. I had enough and I transfer out, I loss about $7000.00 in the deal.
Dec. 12, 2007, 6:25 a.m.
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There are numerous degrees, concentrations, and campuses that encompass argosy. That being said, some things appear to apply to all of the argosy programs and some are program specific. I completed my MA in clinical psych and am almost dine with the psyd. I found some of the professors and students to be subpar, but some professors are really dynamic and and know their stuff. I cant speak for the online stuff or the business stuff, but the clinical psych program is decent. Dont get me wrong, if I got into a traditional university I certainly would have rather gone there, but this is a degree none the less and I do think that I am receiving a good education. After all the APA does approve the program so they apparently find merit in it. Also I have a friend who failed the comprehensive exam  and pretty much got screwed out of his doctorate, a waste of 100,000 bucks. We are definitely just dollar signs to the administration, but the prof do care about the students.
And there are definitely ppl who take this degree and are gainfully employed I have been at practicum sites where argosy graduates are employed and I have had argosy graduates as profs and training directors.
Hope this is a bit more of an even handed approach and the disadvantages and some advantages of Argosy.
Dec. 22, 2007, 3:20 p.m.
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Well after reading all of these comments, I'm very displeased. These nontraditonal schools seem to eb out for the money and dont really care about the students education. I believe that this is the norm for this type of education....Now that I have gone to two non-traditional schools, I get the feeling that i was a big sucker.....MAN!!!! Well thats ok, I will just not recommend them....
Dec. 31, 2007, 4:08 p.m.
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Transfer - What you say is true.  Argosy is a business that employs people.  Some people are caring, ethical and knowledgable and some are uncaring, unethical, and poorly qualified.  People are people.  

The pattern that I have seen at Argosy which disturbs me is that they do not incent good teachers to stay.  For example, they employ a lot of part-time adjunct faculty and they only pay them for classroom time.  Argosy does not pay these instructors for prep time or time for grading exams.  I only attended Argosy for 24 months and by the time I had left, 11 of the 13 instructors I had were gone.

Meanwhile, mediocre teachers who were loyal to the company were rewarded and promoted.
Jan. 17, 2008, 10:51 p.m.
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Has anyone read the following article from the Chicago Sun-Times?  In my experience this is typical of the way Argosy treats its students.  The only reason this student's dismissal was reversed and the faculty member disciplined was because the media picked up the story.


Chicago Sun-Times (IL)

February 19, 2006

Unoriginal Sin: Student scolded by Argosy University after accusing school official of plagiarizing doctoral project -- book's author calls copying 'substantial' 


Author: Dave Newbart; The Chicago Sun-Times
Jan. 11, 2008, 7:57 p.m.
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I am a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist and a Certified School Counselor.  I have just completed my Ed.D. at Argosy in Counseling Psychology.  I have my degree and I am a happy to report my experience at ARGOSY was extemely positive.  I enjoyed the trips to Sarasota for the on-campus tutorials.  The professors were knowledgable, helpful and open to diverse opinions.  The on-line classes were challenging, well-organized and useful to my professional career.  I am glad I decided to attend ARGOSY UNIVERSITY and I am proud of my accomplishment.
Jan. 13, 2008, 7:21 p.m.
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Anonymous Jan 11, 2008,

If you are so proud of your accomplishment, please rate the University officially in this site. That way credibility can be added to your statement, if not you may be someone from the university giving positive feedback. Sorry, but you sound fake and systematic.
Jan. 15, 2008, 3:07 p.m.
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I have invested 1 year into the clinical psychology program in Tampa and I wish I never did! This school is horrible. The faculty do not care about their students. The professors for the most part have huge egos while others are poor teachers. The rules at this school are impossible. I missed the first day of a class and was asked to provide a documented medical excuse or death certificate of a family member or drop the class! (The medical excuse has to be substantial not just a simple cold or flu). I was forced to drop the class. Give me a break!
Jan. 17, 2008, 7:27 p.m.
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Wow, compared to other discussions when looking for programs this board is terrible on Argosy.  At least the NCU dicussion had some people who had a good experience, unlike Argosy which seems like nobody likes.
Jan. 19, 2008, 10:13 p.m.
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argosy sucks. end of story!
Jan. 21, 2008, 7:07 a.m.
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I am enrolled currently in Argosy's Ed.D in Counseling Pscyhology program as this time. I am a new student and I am enrolled in my first class. I already had a bad feeling because of the cost of tuition, which is extremely expensive. I am upset that I did not research the school in detail as I should have. I know of a couple of people that attend classes in Atlanta. They seem to like the school, but admitted that it was outrageous tuition wise. I decided to research at this time, due to being a recent graduate of an on-line school that is an established university, UWA for my M.Ed in School Counseling, I hate the inflexibility of Argosy's on-line program. As the previous post stated, I hate the 7 1/2 week format. I hate the group projects. I hate the fact that if you are late a day, you loose ten points when you have assignments due 3 days of the week every week. I have already lost 30 points at this time because I did not there were two discussion questions. I do not like the way the classes are already registered for you. You have no say so in the matter. Also, I did not find out that you are unable to sit out a semester until I had already enrolled. I think they did that on purpose. I did not receive my welcome packet explaining everything until after I had already began my classes. I was shocked! And to top everything else off,I am supposed to receive a refund check from my loan. And I was told my financial aid advisor that I will not receive it until about 3 to 6 weeks!! She had the nerve to say it with an attitude as if I was bothering her. I asked her why does the Atlanta campus receive theirs direct deposit about a week after classes begin, she said because all campuses operate differently. I think it is probably because they know that a lot of students will leave. I am already looking into other options that are more convenient and flexible for me. This is ridiculous! I am definitely withdrawing while I have a chance.
Jan. 25, 2008, 9:35 p.m.
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Interesting site. I don't know what campuses most of you are speaking of, but there is a huge difference in prgram offerings and quality across the Argosy organization. (I do not work for AU). I'm about to finish my coursework and begin a dissertation in Sarasota and I have been pleased. In fact, I have a graduate degree from a Research 1 Institution that you have all heard of and overall, my experience in Sarasota has been superior. An education is what you make out of it. Have I had any lousy professors? Yes, a couple. Just like I did at the Research 1 school. Anyway, sorry there have been so many difficult placements. Best of luck to you as you find your path.
Jan. 23, 2008, 3:25 p.m.
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I was enrolled in the Psy.D. program in clinical psych. at AU Washington, DC. Many of my instructors were Argosy graduates themselves with NO teaching experience. There is NO library to speak of and one is expected to have access to a REAL library to make up for it. Many fellow classmates were total MORONS who were enticed in by the possibility of having "Dr." in their names. The business offices are in a nice building while classes are held in a not-so-nice building full of young, undergrad, inner city, obnoxious youth. Obviously a business first and quality of education last. There isn't even any benefit of flexibility in this program. They want you to quit your job and run up loans, classes are all in person- nothing at a distance, and there is a time limit. Plus, the job market is going to be saturated with these types and getting a job is going to be tough.
Jan. 28, 2008, 10:47 p.m.
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Sarasota - It is true that students are free to study as much or as little as they like at any college...so in that respect, yes an education is what you make of it.

However, for tuition that is about 3 times that of comparable state college programs one would expect the quality of instruction to better instead of much worse.

The other serious issue with Argosy, especially in the health sciences is that clinical training is all too frequently a problem.  In most programs at Argosy, clinical training does not take place until after all classroom work has been completed.  By this time students are already committed and massively in debt when they find out that Argosy does not have a clinical site for them.  Those students lucky enough to receive a clinical site will often have to move out of state further compounding the cost of an education at Argosy.

Plan on having to quit your job and find another place to live.  If you are self-employed with a mobile business and you live in an RV then Argosy is the school for you.
Jan. 29, 2008, 5:41 p.m.
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I am shocked at the amount of negative feedback regarding Argosy University!  I have not had any of the described experiences.  Instead I have found a school where I am able to network and enjoy my time learning the skills necessary to succeed.  

I guess all I can say is think for yourself.

Especially since there are so many different locations, how can one person's experience on the other side of the country be a good indicator of what you would experience in another location?

I personally have had a great experience at the San Francisco Campus.

So I may speak for myself...
but think for yourself!
Jan. 29, 2008, 8:53 p.m.
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Think - You are right that one person's experience would not be representative of all Argosy campuses.  An overwhelming number of negative reviews from different students and campuses, however, would seem to support the existence of a pattern of substandard academics and ethics inherent in Argosy's business practices.
Jan. 29, 2008, 9:02 p.m.
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Think:  "Shocked" is an awfully strong word.  Are you in admissions at Argosy?  (I understand they are paid on commission like used car salesmen.)
Feb. 4, 2008, 9:46 a.m.
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I notice that some posters refer to the Ph.D. degree and Argosy University in the same sentence so I would like to clarify. Argosy University does not award the Ph.D. degree - the only true and valued doctoral degree. The institution is not of sufficient quality to offer a Ph.D. in any field. Instead you earn the second rate "practitioners" degree in field such as an Ed.D., D.B.A,. of Psy,.D. Don't kid yourself...these are imitation Ph.D. degrees and true academics know it. The MOST you can hope to achieve with one of these very flimsy degrees "earned" at a for profit institution is 1) promotion in your current workplace (maybe) or 2) initial employment on the fringes of your field. If you are one of the delusional students who think this degree is a passport to becoming a college or university "faculty member" and you are trying to buy your way into the "ivory tower" - forget it. Most academics holding the Ph.D. degree will laugh behind your back when you use the "Dr." title with a degree from any for profit institution. The only persons not laughing are the grossly overpaid executives of the companies from whom you are purchasing your degree which is best described as a discounted commodity of questionable use or value. Graduates students of Ph.D. quality never need to buy the degree for tens - if not hundreds - of thousands of dollars. For most, and definitely the best, it cost them nothing because outstanding academic performance and exceptional intelligence merited (remember that word?) them a graduate assistantship or fellowship with free tuition and stipend. If someone else doesn't pay for the doctoral degree for you - it is probably going to do you little or no good. That's the way "real" graduate school works. At for profit schools you pay them and this is one time you will not get what you "pay for" by any stretch of the imagination. You can not buy credibility or reputation or intelligence no matter how much you pay or what the nice admissions (and very well trained!) person tells you. All you are buying is a lifetime of debt and regret that you were so easily fooled. If you are not smart enough to avoid the "for profit" education trap you are definitely not smart enough to call yourself "Dr.". Hard words that - if heeded - will save you much money and heartbreak. Go on vacation instead as that will provide a better education and more life value.
Feb. 4, 2008, 9:15 a.m.
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Your degree at Argosy is virtually worthless. The current CEO is Todd Nelson formerly of University of Phoenix notoriety - apply critical thinking skills here. Argosy's financial aide scheme is second to none even in the predatory swamp of for-profit education. I once overheard a central office adminstrator pose the question: "How many bottom feeders (referring to students) do we have here?" Argosy University (I agree that university is a misnomer) is a class action waiting to happen. Run - do not walk - away. Do yourself a favor and study for your GRE test so you can be admitted to a reputable institution worthy of your (correction: taxpayer) dollars.
Feb. 1, 2008, 5:48 p.m.
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I found the following on WikiAnswers...

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Minimum_GPA_to_enter_Argosy_University

It would be funny if it weren't so painfully true.  I should never have attended Argosy.  I could have been admitted to almost any school in the nation but chose Argosy because it was close, they had immediate openings (now I know why), and I didn't want to move my family.  I wasted a TON of money at this school and I have nothing to show for it because (as is all to common with this school) they leveled false allegations against me and dismissed me (but not until after I had virtually paid for their entire program).  I was a straight A student and even worked as a tutor for Argosy!  I am still stunned to this day at how quickly they turned on me when they needed to shed students because they were short on clinical sites.  Argosy does not care about its students.  They only want your money.
Feb. 8, 2008, 8:20 p.m.
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I found this site and it prompted me to create a myspace about Argosy. I am a former student. I have my own tragic story about this so called university. Visit and post please!
myspace dot com/argosycomplaints
Feb. 12, 2008, 6:30 p.m.
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Former Administrator - It looks like Argosy is busy hiring more ex-University of Phoenix staff (see link below). I suspect that the University of Phoenix has peaked now that the public and the Department of Education are on to their scam.  High level administrators are taking their profits and moving on to their next scam (Argosy), leaving hundreds of thousands of students worse off than they found them.  Eventually the public will catch on to Argosy and the administrators will move on again in search of new victims and bigger profits.  The sad thing is that no matter how corrupt these private companies are eventually found out to be, students are always left behind in massive debt, with worthless degrees, and no recourse.  In my view the Department of Education needs to be much more proactive about investigating the predatory business practices of some of these private, for profit "education" companies.  Sanctioning the companies years after the fact does nothing to help the students who are being harmed now.

I also firmly believe that legislation needs to be enacted to provide greater transparency in higher education.  It is very difficult for students to find out what is really going on at a school before attending.

http://www.redorbit.com/news/education/1072461/argosy_university_announces_appointment_of_craig_d_swenson_as_president/index.html
Feb. 23, 2008, 7:08 p.m.
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Reality - are you in admissions at Argosy?

I have no issue with schools maintaining high academic standards.  In fact, if Argosy were to weed out 90% of new students in the first two semesters - I would have no issue.  As long as they gave everyone a fair chance.

The problem is, Argosy has no incentive to weed out unqualified students during the admissions process or during the first couple of semesters.  The more students they keep enrolled, the more money they make.

Consequently people end up having experiences like mine, where I completed (and paid for) 84% of their program, maintained straight A's and was still dismissed because the school had more students than clinical sites.

Now I have a ton of debt and nothing to show for it.  If Argosy had weeded out some of their underperforming students early they could have had plenty of clinical sites.  They would have had to part with big $$$ to do so, however, so don't expect this to happen until the regulators force them to.

As long as Argosy's #1 goal is to make money, marketing and keeping enrollment high will be priorities while educating and serving their students will be minimally funded.
Feb. 24, 2008, 3:34 a.m.
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Dear Reality,

It is painfully obvious that you are part of Argosy's multi-million dollar marketing machine.

First of all you bash a site that is 100% Argosy neutral.  onlinedegreereviews.ORG does not have an opinion on the school.  Only third parties who have experienced Argosy and would like to share that experience are posting here (as well as some cheap marketing hacks on Argosy's payroll).

Second, only a school like Argosy (which views its students as "bottom feeders") would bash its own students by saying that they have a "pay to play" mentality.  Here's an idea - why not toughen up admission standards to exclude the "pay to play" crowd that you claim is such a problem?  The answer is simple.  Argosy would go out of business.  End of story.
March 3, 2008, 11:58 p.m.
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Argosy is an exact copy of what is Phoenix, a very expensive place to study with no regard or respect to students and high pressure marketing techniques to rush you to enroll. I know because  I have  been a student in both places.
Feb. 28, 2008, 6:42 p.m.
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Reality - I was not in the clinical psych program so I cannot speak from personal experience to the quality of that program compared with other programs at Argosy.  From what I have heard (from some people) psych is probably one of their best (albeit overpriced) programs.

This is what I do know.  I attended Argosy with a friend who was a straight A student, a tutor, and was awarded Argosy's "Presidential Leadership Award".  Her undergrad degree was psychology and she said that she would like to pursue a masters and PhD in psych someday but she did not want to attend Argosy's program because it was "not well respected".

I do also know one graduate of Argosy's psych program whom I believe to be caring, competent, and hard working however very poorly paid (perhaps partially by choice).

There...that was probably a little more fair.

I'm not sure that I agree with your comment "Like any other business, if you do not have a quality product, it will fail".  This presumes that accurate information about a school is available to prospective students.  For-profits like Argosy spend a large portion of their budget on marketing and they only disseminate the information they want people to hear.

I would like to ask you, Reality, how did you research Argosy?  Where did you get the information that led you to choose Argosy?
Feb. 28, 2008, 9:48 p.m.
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What do you mean when you say you have "worked as a workstudy"?  If you are not in Argosy's clinical psych program then who are you and what qualifies you to comment on their program?

86% clinical placement is still not good enough.  That means that 14% of the people who paid for almost all of their program were not able to finish their degree.  They have a very large program and it is not ok to charge people $100,000 and then not let them finish their degree.  

Besides I would be VERY suspicious of that 86% figure.  I have received inconsistent information from Argosy regarding job placement statistics, for example.  

I was told that in my program Argosy had a 98% placement rate.  Then I found out that as many as 40% of these students just "chose" to take jobs in other fields.  So...a job flipping burgers is considered a "successful placement"?  It is if you went to Argosy.  Also they exclude students who don't want to move out of state (don't want to move to Alaska?  Too bad.).  They exclude students who are going to school again...what Argosy's degree didn't get me anywhere?...and the list goes on and on.  If you want to find out the truth, ask them for the actual numbers, not statistics.  Who was it that said "there are lies, damn lies, and there are statistics"?

Please post what you find out here.  I am very curious to know what you find out.
March 2, 2008, 8:45 p.m.
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I have been attempting to get accurate numbers (or any at all in writing) on enrollment, attrition, and placement.  The people at admissions in Sarasota were unable to provide ANY numbers whatsoever.  This leaves me skeptical.  I did, however, get an email from a rep in admissions telling me to enroll NOW since there is only "a few slots left" for the doctoral program --- yet coincidentally spots are available for me to start this week?  Questionable, at the least and perhaps untrue if I could ever get any answers on how many slots there are available in the program.  Does any one know of a site I can check?  I have asked admissions, read their catalouges and checked online. Reading these reviews supports my skepticism and frankly dissades me from pursuing an edcation at Argosy.
March 5, 2008, 3:05 p.m.
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I am in the Education program at Argosy.  "Workstudy" is an part-time on-campus job helping out in various roles within the administrative offices - answering student questions, helping out during orientations/openhouse, manning the phones, etc.  

I found Argosy through a friend that is also an educator.  She finished her Ed.S and is currently in the Ed.D program (both of wich qualifies her for pay increases through the state.)  I teach at an Early Ed. private school, so I am not paid on the state's salary schedule.

The Clinical Psych program is the only traditional format (day program) at my campus.  My workstudy hours were during the day, so I have had extensive contact with Clinical students.  I am also possessed a natural curiosity about the other programs at Argosy.

As far as my qualifications, what do I need to qualify as an opinion on this site?  I am a student at Argosy with a bit more insight into the administrative side than most students.  That's all.  My opinion is here for the taking or leaving.

Those that are looking for hard statistics should contact the student services director.  That is where all the statistics are compiled.  I agree that this information should be better disbursed to the admissions side, but a call to the director of student services at any campus should give you more numbers then you can shake a stick at.

The clinical internship is a paid, interviewed position.  Students hold some responsibility in interviewing well.  If it were a question of the degree, the internship interview would not have been granted in the first place.  When I was there (as a workstudy,) Psy D students from the Atlanta campus had filled 33% of the internship positions at Vanderbilt (3 out of 10.)  One had been placed at Johns Hopkins.  Now I do sound like an admissions employee - but, apparently, anyone that voices a somewhat positive position on this thread will invariably be discredited with that.  One student told me that the those students that limit their internship geographically have a more difficult time being placed, but they were told during their entire program to BE OPEN TO RELOCATION. Find me a school with a 100% placement rate.

I have no doubts that people have had bad experiences.  I've had very bad experiences at public universitites WELL beyond anything I've experienced at Argosy.  I am not attempting to sugarcoat anything here, either.  I get annoyed with an uneven balance of criticism.  The point is, do your research, ask the right questions and make a decision based off more than disgruntled and unverifiable posts.
March 5, 2008, 10:11 p.m.
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Argosy is a business!! Students are not seen as individuals but as dollar signs. Tuition is a joke. Pofessors teach via PP slides and some do not have an office or office hours. I had the pleasure of attending Argosy. I wish I could turn back the clock. Advice to all>> Run from a school that charges double to triple tuition. I agree that legislation should be passed to stop profit universities.
March 12, 2008, 4:20 a.m.
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I am enrolled in the clinical psych program at argosy. I got my MA and am almost done with the psyd. I am do not know if ppl on this site are aware of the history of how argosy was formed. Argosy was originally individual state schools of profesional psychology. ISPP, the illinois school of proffesional psych was the first profesional school of psych that existed period. Ask ppl in the field, psychologists, they  will tell you that ISPP has a good reputation. during the 90's the psych schools and the u in sarasota and a medical school in mn, i think, formed together and made "agrosy unuversity"
(If I messed up some small detail in describing this dont crucify me.) 

The PSYCHOLOGY PSYD program is in a different league then the rest of the stuff going on at argosy. The Psyd at argosy is based on a very solid and reputable program that has been around since the APA created the Psyd degree. 

I know a number (about 5 or 6) graduates of ISPP (argosy) who are very gainfully employed, you can do your own google search, instead of typing in argosy, type in ISPP and you wil find many gainfully employed respected psychologists.

That being said, I am in the program now, and I know the ups and downs of it. we just had match day for internship a bit over a month ago, and on my campus the match rate was 96%. We only have one student now without a site and that is bec of her geographic limitation. 

What are the negatives of the PsyD program here?

1- It is very competitive to get practicum sites, keep in mind you need 2 or 3 of them b4 internship. 
2- Argosy does not have their own counseling site.
3- Tuition is out of control

I think argosy is trying to piggyback business and education programs off of the Psych programs good record, and that is not fair to us psych students who work off our tails and hear that other students are getting an easy ride from argosy.
March 12, 2008, 4:43 a.m.
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most of the programs are not online. Argosy is mostly NOT online.
March 12, 2008, 9:02 p.m.
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Well, now looking at these reviews, I'm sticking with UH Hilo. I don't care if I eventually have to travel to another island, or to the main land to get my PhD. I am very happy with MCC. They are realisitic, have an excellent staff, and I can get my BA here on maui. I am not into "online study programs".
March 17, 2008, 9:24 p.m.
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I am concerned that some of you "doctoral" students are in denial.  I was in denial for a long time.  I didn't want to believe that I had made a big mistake.

I hope you guys didn't have to take out a lot of private student loans.  If you wind up unemployed or underemployed the government will work with you.  The private lenders will not.  Argosy is so expensive.  I am sooo...glad I didn't invest $100,000 in Argosy.
March 18, 2008, 12:50 p.m.
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I can only say this now, as I am about to complete my PsyD internship at the Argosy Tampa campus.  Several of my classmates had complained about a professor's harassing behavior towards them.  Although the professor was (eventually) terminated for his behavior, ALL OF MY CLASSMATES THAT HAD COMPLAINED HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE PROGRAM.  The administration used excuses such as ‘anger problems’ or ‘forging practicum hours’ (all of which were untrue).  My closest friend (who had a 3.8 GPA) failed her comprehensive exam by HALF A POINT!  It was a subjective assessment, and she was never given any justification for the grade!  The appeals process was an absolute joke, and now, a woman who was TWO CLASSES AWAY FROM GRADUATION is out over $100,000 USD.  

As a foreign student, I was afraid to speak up.  Had I, I probably would have been thrown out like my 5 colleagues.  THIS SCHOOL IS HORRIBLE!  SAVE YOUR MONEY, AND GO ELSEWHERE!
March 18, 2008, 9:11 p.m.
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Dear LOST FRIENDS,

Tell your friends to file a complaint with the organization that accredits Argosy's psych program and the Florida state office of higher education as soon as possible!  A similar thing happened to me.  I was a 4.0 student!  Argosy's standard operating procedure is to turn viciously on any student who dares to express a concern about the quality of their program.  They will accuse the student of "having a bad attitude" or of not showing "respect for authority".

Their appeals process is completely worthless.  They assign committees to listen to students' appeals and they instruct the staff members to say nothing.  They just listen and try to trick you into saying something they can use against you.  They will tell you that you have to "take ownership for your actions".  They will not discuss the possibility of wrongdoing on their part.  The truth is they are just trying to bait you into saying something that they can use against you.  The staff are afraid of the administration so no one will stand up for students.  (There is no tenure at Argosy and the pay is so poor most staff get out as soon as they are able).  Unfortunately many staff members are former students who have no other options and are hopelessly in debt.

I am so sorry for the loss of your friends.  I have had a difficult time dealing with the way they treated me.  I cannot think of a crime worse than stealing years of a person's life and putting them in massive debt just to make a profit!  I wish they would have just shot me.  The physical wound would have healed long ago and I wouldn't be so far in debt.  

If your friends don't file complaints they will continue to get away with this.

Actually, I recommend that your friends seek legal counsel.  Some attorneys are willing to work on a contingency basis particularly if there is a group of students who have been harmed.  Argosy is only motivated by money.  They will not change until students begin to hold them accountable and it starts to affect their bottom line.

Good luck!
March 19, 2008, 2:15 a.m.
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I'm planning to attend argosy this june and now that I've read all this I'm freaking scared. 

but luckily I'm in the psych program and what I've read so far -- tells me that everything'll be okay. 

but seriously, Can someone stop being so negative and tell the full on truth. I'm sick of this constant negativity. It's making me shake with nervousness that I picked the wrong place. 

Someone give a review.. not an angry complaint.
March 19, 2008, 4:34 a.m.
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Dear planning on attending:

I'm sorry that you are feeling scared.  I am scared too.  I have a family to support and I am in a huge amount of debt with nothing to show for it!  Honestly I think you are better off a little scared now than ending up scared years later having blown your one opportunity to spend years of your life and $100,000 on college.

This is what I recommend.  Talk to as many students who have attended Argosy as possible.  Ask employers what they think of Argosy graduates.  Talk to other colleges and ask if they will accept transfer credits from the Argosy program you will be attending and if the other schools are even set up to accept Argosy transfer students.  Ask yourself if you would be more likely to be able to get into another college now, or after you have completed a lot of your classes at Argosy.  Ask yourself if you could afford to transfer to another college after spending $90,000 at Argosy considering that no college is going to accept all of your transfer credits.  Don't forget to factor in the additional room and board costs associated with the delay in your education while you apply and wait to get into another school.  Finally ask yourself if you could possibly earn enough to make your loan payments if you graduate only to find that the job market is swamped with out-of-work Argosy grads.

Reviews are irrelevant if you can't finish your program, you can't transfer credits, and you can't get a job even if you do graduate.

Some students do graduate from Argosy and find employment, however the odds of success and fair treatment are better at more reputable schools.
March 20, 2008, 3:17 p.m.
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Dear LOST FRIENDS,

The best chance for a quick resolution for your friends may be for them to take their story to the media.  (See the posting by "Anonymous" above about the AU Chicago Psych student whose dismissal was only reversed after the Chicago Sun Times picked up the story).
March 23, 2008, 6:07 a.m.
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Dear planning on attending,
I suggest the same thing, ask current students, and profesionals in the field what they think of argosy/ispp/whatever your local campus was called, and see what ppl say, overall you'll here good things.
March 26, 2008, 4:47 a.m.
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Does anyone have any information about the MA,Counseling Program in San Diego?
March 28, 2008, 7 a.m.
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Well, I am a current Argosy student and man I am getting out ASAP! Not because I read these reviews but because these people are INSANE!  What I mean by "these people" are the staff, the admin. and especially the clinical psych chair! What a joke! I completely agree.  They do whatever tricks they can to get your money and then do not give a damn if you get an education or not. I have gotten "I don't know" repsonse form my "advisor" so many times I cannot tell you.  ARGOSY IS A JOKE!  I can tell you this, I am going to have a field day in telling my story about how they rip students off to the media!  The only psychologists coming out of Argosy are going to be brain washed nut cases.  Why? because those are the type of "professors" they employ!  YAY for freedom of speech!!! Hooray! Man am I glad I am getting out of this rip off campus before I lose all of my money.  Oh and by the way, I have talked to ALOT of fellow students about Argosy and they all hate it but are afraid to talk.  It is time we stand up for our rights and tell how it is at this "school". What a joke!
March 28, 2008, 4:05 p.m.
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To Amazing!! 

Please rate your experience above.
April 2, 2008, 3:52 a.m.
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Amazing!! What campus do you go to?
April 3, 2008, 1:43 a.m.
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There are a few good professors, but most are mediocre.  There are a few racist professors,but the administration pretends "racism" doesn't exist.  They are about making money and students for as much money as possible.  My suggestion.....go some place else.  It is not worth it.
April 5, 2008, 10:09 p.m.
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If you are a Christian, watch out.  Argosy is a hostile environment for people who are spiritual.
April 9, 2008, 5:46 a.m.
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I recently withdrew from Argosy-Atlanta campus EDD Instructional Leadership program. I completed one year and I haven't learned $30,000 worth of knowledge.  Argosy is hungry for money and I will never serve a meal to feed.  The staff is rude and never available to assist students when needed. Argosy is the worst.  I'm going to Walden University.
April 10, 2008, 9:30 a.m.
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I'm pleased to have located and reviewed this web site.  I  know only one Argosy grad (Ed.D) who, rather than trash the whole school, advised me to go to the Sarasota campus vice Atlanta.  She stated that Atlanta continually changed their requirements and she'd had much difficulty completing her degree.  I trust her experience as she's always been a phenominally disciplined student and educator.  So, what to do?  I noticed that the President and Provost of Argosy received his degree form Walden University  -- I guess I'll be heading there for a look-see.  The way I figure it, after 25 years in the US Army, if graduates of an institution won't step up and proudly defend their achievement and the school that granted the degree, it's not the place for me to throw my lot.  Thank you for your comments.  I'm moving onto higher ground.
April 15, 2008, 6:06 a.m.
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I am currently planning to attend argosy and I am in shock with all of this feedback... I feel lost.
April 15, 2008, 11:41 p.m.
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OMG,
If you cannot make your own mind (if you can spare $2,500) try the school and then decide for your self. That is what I did and I transfer out. I can't recommend this school to anyone, but I have first hand knowledge and it was not good.
April 18, 2008, 7:42 p.m.
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I am signing up with Argosy (San Franciso) Alemeda location and they said I can do 20% of my classes on campus and 80% online. I am a transfer student with 60 credits and will be obtaining a BA in Psychology. Does anyone go to this campus? I am looking for some insight into this particular location.
April 18, 2008, 7:46 p.m.
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OMG I feel you. I am in the same boat. I have been looking into other schools but there are no other programs that are offer what Argosy does. I like the classes. They really do prepare you for the real world.
April 19, 2008, 2:02 p.m.
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I was contemplating attending AU, but thanks to all of you who posted your personal experiences on here, I am running AWAY from the idea!!  I can't tell you how grateful I am for coming across this website and for all of you who cared enough to share.  I am so sorry for all of the hardship that many of you have gone through with this school! Shame on AU!!
April 19, 2008, 3:22 p.m.
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All of you that have experience with clinical psychology, please contact me:
aim mg22er
yahoo nwuguy23
email nwuguy23 at yahoo.com

I am a prospective student and I really want to get the low down :)
April 20, 2008, 4:29 a.m.
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With so many locations across the USA (and online) as well as the numerous programs each has, I would really appreciate it if those of you who are current or past students would be more specific about what program you are in, for what degree, and at which campus.

I'm scheduled to be enrolled at Dallas in the Fall for the PsyD...any thoughts?
April 24, 2008, 8:51 p.m.
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The problems with Argosy are at every campus.

First of all you have to understand that an education is a product that obeys the laws of market economics.  (Supply and demand).  Argosy is not widely recognized as a reputable school and therefore the demand for their product is low.  Then they compound the issue by charging tuition that is often 3 times what you would pay at a comparable state college.

So you have low demand driven even lower by out of control tuition.  But Argosy must keep their enrollment numbers up to make money.  They accomplish this by admitting EVERYONE.  Employers know this so right off the bat - ON DAY ONE your degree is worth less because your future employer knows that you did not have to compete on the basis of academic ability or aptitude (as measured by ACT scores) to get into Argosy.

Some students who attend Argosy are well qualified but Argosy is forced to "dumb down" the curriculum and lower academic standards to accommodate the poorly qualified students.  This means that even the well qualified students are not learning as much.

Furthermore, Argosy faculty and staff are well aware of the fact that a large proportion of their student body is poorly qualified and therefore they have little respect for students.  They do not treat students as customers.  They treat them as "bottom feeders" and they do not take their committment to helping students succeed seriously.
April 28, 2008, 9:10 a.m.
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What does Argosy have to do with UOP?  The UOP executives they hired will help turn a failing university around.  If you want to forgo the growing pains just go to UOP who has been the leader in distance learning ever since the idea became a reality.
April 28, 2008, 2:34 p.m.
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The only thing UOP has been a leader in is marketing and profits.    Educational quality, customer service, and graduation rates have been abysmal.
May 11, 2008, 4:57 p.m.
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I didn't listen to the advice of my professors and I ignored the comments on the messageboads.  Instead I went to the Argosy Tampa campus.  I am finishing my first year, and WILL NOT RETURN!  What a waste of time and money!  The professors are horrible.  They YELL AND SCREAM and TREAT STUDENTS LIKE GARBAGE! They put out conflicting information in separate classes. Many of the 2nd and 3rd year students are getting kicked out for NO GOOD REASON!  I think they are getting rid of us because they DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PRACTICUM SLOTS FOR EVERYONE NEXT YEAR!!!  I was told by my advisor that this happened before. More and more sites are refusing to take Argosy students... and I don't blame them.  I don't care if I lose time and money.  I'm applying elsewhere!  I can't stress this enough.  DON'T GO HERE!!!
May 19, 2008, 12:21 p.m.
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I have to think that Tampa's location, distance or not, has the MOST unsatisfied students.  All of the good professors are either leaving, have left, or are going to be fired for having thoughts of their own. I have never felt so stifled.  As a current student (3.5 GPA) who drags himself to class, I can say that this school is a rip-off and a disgrace. I stay only because they have stolen so much of my money and I am too deep to leave.  It is too late to transfer. RUN AS FAST AS YOU CAN from Argosy, Tampa.
May 21, 2008, 2:33 a.m.
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If I could do college over again I would NEVER attend a college that does not publish a student directory.  This should be a RED FLAG!  There is a reason why crooked schools do not want students to be able to contact each other.  They do not want students to be able to compare notes on their experiences for fear of class action lawsuits!  Run from any school that deliberately impedes communication between students and between students and alumni!
May 30, 2008, 6:05 p.m.
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I just dropped out of the DBA program after I found out my prof misrepresented himself as a senior executive for a multi-billion dollar company, when in actuality was a territory sales rep!! Upon looking into this further, he is teaching in a DBA concentration area, and has no doctoral-level credits at all in that discipline. His "illustrious" alma mater, Welden University, doesn't even offer doctoral courses in the subject he now teaches in at Argosy!  When I confronted Argosy with this info, they supported this fraud and refused to refund my $.  What a joke! I'm glad I found this out now, before investing any more $.  My first three profs were good, but many of the students couldn't even write above a high school level at best.  One student was in her last class before comps and dissertation and couldn't handle basic grammer, and had no understanding of APA guidelines. No wonder they don't have a credible business accreditation!! Run as fast as you can!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 31, 2008, 8:47 a.m.
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I like this one better
DBA=Don't Bother with Argosy
June 1, 2008, 9:40 p.m.
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I'm now at Capella and quite happy...I'm graduating this summer. :)
June 2, 2008, 11:14 p.m.
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I attended Argosy and all I have to show for it is a mountain of debt.  Looking back one of the things that irritates me the most is the way Argosy's financial aid office is run.  Argosy insists that all student loan funds be transferred directly from from the lender to Argosy's coffers.  This way the student never has possession of the money he or she is spending.  But make no mistake, the student is spending it and the lender will relentlessly pursue the student for the rest of his or her life.  Because the student never the money in hand, her or she does not have to evaluate the opportunity cost of plunking down $5,000 for a semester at Argosy or say...buying a car.  Furthermore, if a student takes out extra money for living expenses (not tuition) it also goes to Argosy.  Then Argosy gives the living expense money to the student making it "feel" like Argosy is doing you some kind of favor and giving you money.  This is a deceptive scam designed to keep students from feeling the real pain of paying outrageous tuition until after it is too late.
Shame on you Argosy!
June 5, 2008, 9:51 p.m.
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I am currently in the process of bringing a class action law suit against Argosy University for discrimination, retaliation and inefficiency.  If you have and supporting information or you would like to join this suit please reply to jamiacole@yahoo.com.
June 5, 2008, 9:53 p.m.
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I am currently in the process of bringing a class action law suit against Argosy University for discrimination, retaliation and inefficiency.  If you have any supporting information or you would like to join this suit please reply to jamiacole@yahoo.com.
June 8, 2008, 5:21 p.m.
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@ Get Help:

I email you 3 days ago and you have not answer me , so is this is a way to collect people's information to spam them later?
June 12, 2008, 7:29 p.m.
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It was convenient but expensive. AU is not meant for most, for me it served its purpose. I received my M.Ed from AU. which allowed me to obtain the promotion to a new position with a new co (very reputable co.). That said if I had the time and money I would have gone to a more reputable institution of higher learning.
I find solace in knowing I graduated maintaining a 4.0 throughout the program. Though I suppose that is akin to saying I ran circles around 4 year olds while playing them in basketball...it is to be expected as long as you make minor effort.
For those considering the school:
It is true that it's run like a business
Some prof's are outstanding. For me all were less one
Before making the commitment, know that you have to have to desire and interest to push forward regardless of the distraction from the AU machine.

I complete my program in less than 12 month (about 50 weeks) this was another plus as we were expecting our first child 1 week after the semester came to an end.
July 6, 2008, 7:47 p.m.
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Test
July 10, 2008, 6:02 a.m.
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I've been thinking about transferring to Argosy, looking into their doctoral program in counseling psychology.  I am currently enrolled in the same program at Walden.  The thing I'm finding strange here is that this whole thread could have been written about Walden -- unresponsive to students, ignoring problems, trying to blame students for the university's problems, etc.  Strangely, I find the internet peculiarly free of negative comments about Walden.  I think everything has at least *some* positives and negatives, but is Walden the only thing in the known universe that has "no" problems whatsoever?  Is somebody running a giant Hoover that removes negative comnments about Walden from the internet?  I'm just finding it all very, very strange, how so many of these comments are dead-on about my own experiences at Walden.  Can anybody direct me to any information that would help clear up this mystery?  Hello?  Is Sherlock Holmes still for hire?
July 14, 2008, 3:10 a.m.
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I heard the APA won't be re-accrediting their psych program.  I wonder why that could be?  Sucks to be $130,000 in the hole when that one hits.  Good luck, yall.  I agree with another writer that said they prey on students that can't get into schools elsewhere.  Boy, I wish I could put an Argosy "doctorate" on my vita!
Aug. 14, 2008, 3:40 p.m.
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I have read a number of posting about Argosy and they are (in most cases) Negative. I must say, I have not had that experience at the Atlanta campus. There have, however, been a professor or two that were less than desirable, but for the most part, my experience has been spot on. I am in the DBA Information Systems concentration and my background is Information Systems for the past 10 years. A lot of the complaints that I see here are from the Psych and Ed students which has a number of other organizations that your must prove yourself with. I guess the bottom line for me is that Argosy catered to my busy schedule and a Technology Manager and was a good fit for ME, but what works for ME may not work for others. If one is not satisfied with Argosy or any other place of higher learning, that person has the option of moving on to something that suits them better, and all I can say is GOOD LUCK in all of your endeavors.

Believe it or not, Argosy and other school like it are her to stay because that is a need for it. I looked into Georgia State; however, they did not want you to work at all while pursuing your Doctorate, which was not going to work. I looked in the UoP, but did not like the format. I looked into Walden and decided against it. Argosy was my choice and I have been successful in my studies with them. This degree is a goal for me on a personal level. I make good money already, I am with a company that I love, but to have a Doctorate is a personal goal for me and to show my nieces and nephews that you can achieve anything you want in life.

Remember as you read these comments, you have nothing to prove to anyone but yourself. If you ultimate goal is to complete your terminal degree, then let no comments from disgruntle individuals with personal agendas stop your from achieving that goal. Again, GOOD LUCK!!! AND GODSPED.
Aug. 16, 2008, 7:31 a.m.
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Very expensive personal goal for you and to show your nieces and nephews, that you can achieve anything you want in life.

How much you ended paying for your degree?
Aug. 21, 2008, 6:48 p.m.
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As with any terminal degree, the cost is going to be high. However, that was not my point. I see that you have a problem with the finance attached to the degree and that's cool, it is not for everyone. I can not put a price on a quality education. At some Universities you pay more and others you pay less, we are talking about a terminal degree. Look, I am not here to solve your issues with this particular University, I am just giving my version of the type of education I am receiving from Argosy Univeristy (Atlanta Campus). I can't speak for others schools or even other campuses, but I can speak about MY experience in Atlanta.
Aug. 21, 2008, 7:59 p.m.
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How much you ended paying for your degree?
Simple question and Simple answer.(Did not answer the question)

It is accredited (good) and if you were able to afford it or someone paid for it(employer), then good for you. I have no problem with the academics, what I do have a problem with, is the cost of it and services to students, same as UOP, you pay a premium for a degree that you can get elsewhere for less.
Sept. 7, 2008, 5:45 p.m.
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I wanted to try the on-line college format because I needed to finish my teaching degree as I was in a dead end job. I was contacted and treated very well by my admissions rep, unfortunately that's where the good part of the story ends.
I got into class, was assigned my  academic advisor, and thought I was on my way. Fortunately for me and my instincts I waited to sign any financial aid statement...lucky me. I was in class only 1 week before being withdrawn...and a good thing. I sarted class, was confused about navigating the on-line classroom..as well as what academically I was supposed to accomplish as well. I asked my class advisor what I needed to study for an upcoming quiz,...we talked,.. I listened,   did what I was told...the quiz came....and  more than half  of the material on the quiz I had never seen before?!   Then I tried accessing library articles I was supposed to read...I was successful at accessing exactly ZERO articles.   Because I had no faith in my class advisor at this point, I   tried contacting the on demand tutoring/ 24 hour support system for help. Meanwhile I was trying every other way to find the library articles. I did manage to find 1 library article via a different method than was originally intended. Finally a help message came to me via phone..it was the "24 hour" help system...they got back to me exactly 1 week...yes 1 WEEK after I asked for help?!  Big red flags here folks. Like I previously mentioned I never officialy signed my financial aid statement.   and was withdrawn from the class after 1 week. I did e-mail my issues to the school, and got practically no responses to my problems. And as you know their silence spoke pretty loud.   Then my original admissions rep, which was 1 of the very few people I got along with...mysteriously vanishes.  In a few months after  being withdrawn I was contacted via phone and e-mail to re-enroll from a new admissions rep. The message to me  was: to make your program successful this time I need you to sign all these official documents and get them back to me as soon as possible. Do you smell a rat?  Anyway...my advice to people about this school...Research   heavily all your choices for on-line schools before committing. Be fully aware of what your committed to before signing anything. Ask questions/questions/ questions... if they're not answered directly then a red flag should go up.  I think on-line schools for the most part are like anything else new on-line...not ready for prime time....I'm sure there's some good 1's out there, and I'm sure Argosy fits some students and what their employers want from their employees as far as schooling goes. And I'm sure that some have had good Argosy experiences. But make sure sure sure that this school is a good fit for you before committing. My experience here for all they promised, and the money they charged.... I'll give it a grade value...I give it as high as a D
Sept. 27, 2008, 1:45 a.m.
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I am currently working on my Psychology Competency Exam at Argosy Seattle and have to say RUN to anyone considering entering that program. I began the program 3 years ago and it is scary to think that the university has gone through 3 Presidents and the entire counseling department has changed.  The only people still there is the head of the department and the practicum chair (who must have you bow and lick his feet if you want any type of decent score).  The current staff is full of individuals who will tell you that they want you to use the style that works best for you when in actuality they want you to use the style that they understand.  Any theory that goes outside of their common knowledge is a threat to them.  It is also very clear that depending on who is on your review panel there are different requirements.  In preparation for this final event you are not allowed to have your professor review your paper, nor are you allowed to get any assistance on the actual writing of your paper from any staff member.  If you have a question about the manual you can expect to get a copy and paste of the manual back.  I was lied to going into the program.  My admissions representative was actually fired for lying to potential students and none of us were ever told that she had been lying and by the time most of us found out we were 1.5 - 2 years into the program.  I even came to find out that my advisor is no longer at the school and I was never notified.    All I can say is don’t do it.  The headache is not worth it.  I am actually filing a lawsuit.
Sept. 29, 2008, 1:57 a.m.
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Argosy University is by far, THE biggest mistake I've made in life. It is nothing other than an institution that rapes an individual of money, energy, and decent education. The classes make me feel like I'm in elementary school ALL over again. At first, I thought It was just ONE professor, but it wasn't. This has been dragging on for ALL of the courses I've unfortunately taken. EVERY SINGLE department fails to answer questions and take responsibility. I'm not sure how they keep the "University" running at this rate, I honestly don't. Anyways, for ANYONE interested--If you truly value your money and your education, DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT enroll in this school. You WILL regret your experience.
Sept. 29, 2008, 2:55 p.m.
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I am an International student and I just got a call from the student advisor at Argosy. She was asking me for my credit card number and that she would fill the application all by herself. I wonder how she can do it without my school GPA's and personal details. I felt the admission process is very vague and I didnt like it when they said that I need not submit my GMAT scores. I was browsing through this site when I read your comments. Thanks to all of you...I dont think I would want to join this university.
Thanks again :)
Oct. 14, 2008, 8:07 a.m.
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FYI, the reason why they didn't even look at your history, is because they could give a crap less--they NEED students badly. It doesn't matter whether you've worked hard for a 4.0 GPA or have a 1.2 GPA..they simply want your $$$$ :)
Oct. 14, 2008, 2:34 p.m.
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Very interesting comments!  I was about to start the DBA online program the end of this month.  The admission and financial aid advisors were very swift in getting me accepted and getting the financial aid in place actually a little harrassing! I started having second thoughts after reading the handbook, especially the part where you were required to remain enrolled until completion.  I told them that I could not commit to same and was told that students took sessions off all of the time and it was no problem.  This seemed like a quick fix to my withdrawal.  I also took their introduction course and found many technical problems with their quizzes.  You can actually pull up the questions that you got wrong and then when you take the quiz again and correct the answer(s) they again come up wrong.  Too frustrating for me!  I e-mailed my advisor to be withdrawn and apparently got a call from a higher up.  Little do they know that I have been given hard sells before and they me very little to me as I can think for myself!!!

I very much appreciate all of the comments posted on this forum because I am also running as far away as I can and look at the 50 buck investment as peanuts!

Thanks Guys!!!!
Oct. 20, 2008, 7:16 p.m.
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As soon as I requested more information about their school and got a call within two minutes I was shocked. I was like what a great school, they really care about me. I wanted to enroll in clinical psychology in chicago but I am not anymore after reading all these negative comments. I do not want to pay so much money and never be able to pay it off, and even worst find a job. I feel very very bad for all of you that had such a bad experience but thank you very very much for giving us future students this information. The reason why I wanted to attend Argosy is because they do not require GRE. I took the GRE and did not score very high and on top of that I am late to take a suject GRE in psychology. I think I will study and prepare for GRE and apply next year in december. I thank you all again
Oct. 22, 2008, 6:11 p.m.
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Education was never meant for people to acquire a job or a career for that matter. Education was about becoming knowlegable and leading your community. The reality is that the best employment opportunities are given to those who know somebody. Always has been and will be. People should not get caught up in the "I have a degree from X University therefore I will have a luxurious career." Employers could care less where your degree is from unless the person doing the hiring is an alumni and seeking other alums. Employers care about experience and what you will do for the organization. I have worked alongside Ivory league, public, and private school graduates. I have a graduate degree and have also worked under individuals who have never set foot on a college campus. What is a degree besides a piece of paper with debt attached to it. Education is big business no matter the size of the school. All colleges and universities get paid. The president's job is to make sure funding is secured and flowing no matter the institution. Education is something purely personal. No one can give you an education and how can you qualify a "wonderful educational experience" in a broad spectrum. Empty rhetoric no matter the institution. Whatever the choice a person makes understand it is a personal commitment to be educated and that means going outside of the classroom and outside of textbooks.
Nov. 8, 2008, 7:55 p.m.
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Insults will get you know where...you are proabably one of those people that start something and never finish, but you want to be critical of others that have made success. To that end, I feel sorry for you.
Dec. 7, 2008, 11:32 p.m.
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Wow I wish I had found this site before I attended Argosy.  I am one who was lied to by the AU recruiter.  They answered all my questions with the right answers and I thought wow what a great school.  I found out at the end of the first 2 years of my 3 year degree that the recruiter had lied and was fired for doing so, however the school administration made the choice NOT to tell the students she had lied.  I have a great GPA but was told during my competency exams that I had no clue what I was doing and was going to have to repeat my internship again.  This is even though I have an A average, letters of recommendation from several of my faculty members, intership advisor, and a specialist in my chosen theoretical orientation.  The other twist is that the only two faculty members who are still at Argosy (in my program) are the head of the department and the director of training - both of whom started a few months/weeks before I did.  All other faculty in my program has changed some of the positions several times.

I do not recommned this school to anyone!!!!
Dec. 11, 2008, 10:54 p.m.
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The administrator is watching over the blog since I saw most of the comments were gone.
Dec. 18, 2008, 7:10 p.m.
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I am currenty attending and I thought this was the best decision of my life but after reading the reviews for this school I know that I am going to transfer as soon as possible and it sucks that I have taken a loan out but It's great to know now that I can transfer before I take out anymore money.
Dec. 23, 2008, 3:52 p.m.
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I have read some of the comments, your education experience is what you make it, no matter what school you attend. A degree does not guarantee you a job, it can only help. For those of you who are getting a DBA to obtain a job, you need to ask yourself, if I am not going into education why would I need an advance degree. As for the person who said that a EdD, Psy.D, DBA, is a second rate degree you are wrong. It is a degree where that says you are not entitle to do research. Most jobs with PH.D's they do research. If you are going this route you  just want to enhance your carre oppportunities. I have seen people who have attended schools I know are low , but they still have very good and hig paying (six figure jobs). I think many of the experiences on here are fom students who are traditional students and need to be in a classroom setting. Also as a instructor myself, alot of times when programs are starting the school hire new instructors because they need to get instructors in. It is like starting a new company. You don't always start out with the best you have to weed them out as you go along. That is what they are doing. AS far as the school being a degree mill. i think ever school is one now. I remember when I went to college ( about 16 years ago) it was very hard. You had to actually work, you had to
go to the library and do research. Now it is so much easier due to the internet and email. So more people are going back to school to get an education and advanced degrees. So don't take anyone opinion atleast try it for yourself and see if you like it. Understand many instructors are adjunct professors and not tenured. So if you have a problem contact your advisor and let them know how you feel rather than voice it on this page. In numbers we are strong. You can actually get them to change if you contact your Director of student affairs and voice your concerns.
Dec. 24, 2008, 2:54 a.m.
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I need help! Can someone please reply? What should I do, should I go to a state school(assuming that I can get in) or attend Argosy for the MA in Counseling? Im so confused cause I hear a lot of valid analysis and also very angry responses.  To be quite honest I attended a private university and am already in debt, I just want to further my education as soon as possibly so I can start to repay my loans.
Dec. 30, 2008, 12:07 a.m.
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This is a reply to Randy.

I cannot personally recommend Argosy University.  (See my post just a few above yours).  That said, I recommend you look into whatever school you want to attend.  Check with the APA and see who is accredited and who is not.  I know that the branch of Argosy I attended tried to get accreditation but was denied.  I cannot speak to all campuses of Argosy just the one I attended.  I would opt for your State University if it were me.  Its also a lot cheaper.
Jan. 2, 2009, 8:16 a.m.
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RECORD ALL INTERACTIONS AND I GUARANTEE YOU CAN SHUT THIS SCHOOL DOWN, OR AT LEAST GET A GOOD SETTLEMENT OUT OF IT. IF STUDENTS RECORDED ALL INTERACTIONS IN CLASS AND WITH FACULTY, A CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT WOULD BRING THIS PIECE OF CRAP SCHOOL TO A GLORIOUS END. Goldman Sacs owns EDMC.com, which owns Argosy - which is poorly managed. EDMC.com owns hundreds of for profit colleges. IT's just a business, not true valuable education. They just want their $ & will try to destroy all complainers by any means necessary - including lying and fabricating facts of reality. All faculty members will lie and say anything IF the program director wants you out for any stupid reason. Send complaints to the Regional Accreditation Board, RECORD and SAVE all correspondence with school. PLEASE DO ALL THAT YOU CAN TO SHUT THIS PIECE OF CRAP SCHOOL DOWN. The way that they operate is a CRIME and I feel sorry for everyone who got taken in by them. They ACCEPT everyone!!! Then after they get as much $ out of you as possible, they start to try to find things wrong with you... like maybe the program director doesn't like you because of something you said or because you have having a problem. They will try to give you the ax for any petty reason - even if you are an A student and didn't do anything wrong. Keep all information to yourself. ADELINE JACKSON (AKA: Mary O'Brien) from Argosy Honolulu NEEDS to be FIRED. She is pure EVIL and leads a DUAL life. She parades as Addie Jackson, but then she has another name plate at the front saying she is Mary O'Brien. She told our group that she is the EX-WIFE of the former President of Argosy schools: Gregory O'Brien and that she got her job as part of her divorce settlement!@#$%^&*. She will be FAKE nice in front of others, but if you are alone with her, watch out and RECORD!!! RECORD EVERYTHING in person, over the phone, in class, SAVE your emails and letters so you can SUE them when they try to do illegal and unethical things to you and/or your classmates. It will just be a matter of time before you will see the evil happen before your own eyes. It may not happen to you, but you will either experience, see or hear about it while you're there - that's for sure. If you or your friends don't get canned, it'll be because you were a silent follower with little to no life experience or professional experience, were a kiss ass and publically blamed yourself for everything that went wrong, or you just plain got LUCKY! I would say, cut your losses and RUN for the EXIT. You made a huge mistake just like hundreds of others who publically and privately regret it.
Jan. 2, 2009, 8:28 a.m.
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Once you are in the system, they won't return calls any time soon, they will be unavailable for month/s, if you have a problem, no one will be kind enough to help you in a kind way. If you need something, forget it! You have now made yourself a target. You will be punished for making changes to your schedule, requesting anything, and for just being a student at Argosy. They have such LIMITED manpower that one or two people can't possibly handle all of the students' requests/ changes, so people get in trouble because the Administration can't help the students - then the Administration blames the students for complaining about anything that goes wrong. It's amazing. I am talking about at a campus - not online.
Jan. 3, 2009, 4:47 a.m.
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Also, older lady with short hair in front Honolulu campus office is either Addie Jackson's mom or mother in law. This is a small mom and pop outfit with no true accountability. The only one who will be held accountable for ALL the staff's wrong doing are YOU and your classmates. Addie runs the show - despite there being a President. She has the final say at that school. It is a puppet regime. You will have to deal with people who should not be in the mental health profession. They don't care about you, your education, or the community - it's just a job - a way to make money and screw anyone who gets in their way. Everyone I knew who graduated from Argosy Honolulu hated and dreaded every moment being there - with the exception of one kiss ass idiot.
Jan. 10, 2009, 12:41 p.m.
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How many were Argosy employees writing positive reviews?
Jan. 17, 2009, 10:44 p.m.
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I am so thankful to you all for the comments - it so help me to make a decision. NO ARGOSY. The tution is EXTREMELY high for a online school. Money is hard to keep these days, and time is precious. 
And Leigh community colleges DO have supportive staff.
Jan. 18, 2009, 1:16 a.m.
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Wow Leigh, 

Talk about a disappointing comment.  while I fully acknowledge that some of the Argosy programs may very well be ok, I find it really sad that you immediately accuse other facilities of writing the comments.  I must assume by your comments that you are a fairly new student to Argosy or be at a campus with a good program for whatever you have decided to study.  

The campus that I attended was really good at making promises but not following through.  I personally know of no student that has graduated from Argosy's MA in Counseling program from my campus that was happy with the program.  

My statement to each person looking at this school is to check out the campus you are looking to attend.  Look at its graduation record (dont just take their word for it), look at the lawsuit record, look at their remediation record, look at the staff rentention record.  In my 3 years at Argosy only 2 of the faculty were the same at the end and that was the Head of the Department and the Director of Training (whom several students had filed formal complaints about).
Jan. 22, 2009, 2:40 a.m.
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Has anyone had any good experience with their online degree programs? I was thinking about getting my BA in psychology online from there but now I'm not sure.
Jan. 29, 2009, 12:38 a.m.
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I am a second semester Argosy Student in the Clinical Psych. Program. I do not understand all the negative feedback on here. I have had good experiences at Argosy University online. Yes, some professors are not as friendly or helpful, but others are friendly, helpful and informative. Yes, the price is a little high, but the schoolwork is challenging, so I'd say well worth it. I am a second semester Argosy Student in the Clinical Psych. Program. I do not understand all the negative feedback on here. I have had good experiences at Argosy University online. Yes, some professors are not as friendly or helpful, but others are friendly, helpful and informative. Yes, the price is a little high, but the school work is challenging, so I'd say well worth it. It is up to the student if they want to learn or not. You need discipline, especially in the online format. I have not had problems with staff and my professors are very informative. Maybe those of you who have had issues with Argosy are isolated occurrences and not typical of an Argosy student. I know many graduates from Argosy in well-respected careers now. I have been to three local universities and community colleges where I live and Argosy is not any easier. I like the Socrates way of teaching the online classes better than the lecture model, typical in most schools. I have yet to be disappointed. It is up to the student if they want to learn or not. You need discipline, especially in the online format. I have not had problems with staff and my professors are very informative. Maybe those of you who have had issues with Argosy are isolated occurrences and not typical of an Argosy student. I know many graduates from Argosy in well-respected careers now. I have been to three local universities and community colleges where I live and Argosy is not any easier. I like the Socrates way of teaching the online classes better than the lecture model, typical in most schools. I have yet to be disappointed.
Jan. 29, 2009, 12:41 a.m.
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I do not know why my post above posted multiple times. Sorry for the error!
Feb. 1, 2009, 9:39 p.m.
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This is to James.  I'm glad that you have had a positive experience with your particular campus and program.  I think that your response is a bit ridiculous and childish.  So I wish you luck and hope that your experience is better than mine.

For all potential Argosy students I would like to state that it comes down to each individual location and program.  Each program at each location works as an independent entity from another.  The PsyD program at my location (which I would never recommend) has no idea what is happening in the Counseling program.  If fact the PsyD and EdD programs are being made aware of how the Counseling program is being handled and its not looking good for the Counseling department.  The school is being investigated and lawsuits are being discussed. 

If you are looking at attending any Argosy campus, my recommendation is to find people who have attended that specific program at that specific location and get their opinions.  Ask the questions of the recruiters they are required to tell you what the drop out rate is, what the graduation rate is, etc.  Ask the local education facilities and credentialing boards about complaints.  

Yes your experience is what you make of it, but you don't have control over the behavior of the administrators.  For me I loved most of my professors, but I disagree with administration and their behavior and actions.  In my program alone there is not one professor teaching there now that was there when I started the program (3 year program) I think that says something about the program.
Feb. 2, 2009, 2:50 a.m.
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To Mr. Colson:

If your rationale and what you wrote is a reflection of the kind of "education" you are getting at Argosy,I am more convinced that Argosy is not worth considering. Now, how you are doing?
Feb. 3, 2009, 11:56 p.m.
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My experience at Argosy was deplorable! Contact gbplattner@plattnerlaw.com to provide your story for a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT against Argosy. Stop them from leaving more students in debt with no degree!
Feb. 4, 2009, 1:02 p.m.
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To Concurring with Negative Comments or gbplatter: Are you collecting information to spam later or worse? It seems new technique for that, if you are genuine, you will provide more information the, plattnerlaw.com seems to be a front for a scam.
Feb. 4, 2009, 6:51 p.m.
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In response, I am not collecting information for spamming and I am not sure what lead you to this conclusion.  I experienced many of the same complaints that others on this site have made against Argosy.  4.0 student, told to take responsiblity for behaviors that weren't wrong, and Argosy finding reasons to drop me from the program prior to practicum.  I have legit complaints against Argosy and have sincere concerns about them being stopped before they do this to other students.  If the lawyers find the complaints of others to substantiate a case, they will move forward.  I am writing here to locate those who have had a bad experience at Argosy that left them with student loans and no degree to show for it.  If any one has questions or information they want to provide, the email to the lawyer looking into this is  gbplattner@plattnerlaw.com  If there is another way of me locating students who have been unfairly treated by Argosy University, let me know.
Feb. 5, 2009, 5:27 p.m.
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To Not a Scam  
What law firm is this email address for?  I would like to contact them directly via phone.  Sorry to be skeptical but I'm cautious when it comes to this kind of stuff.  I have hired an attorney in my area as have several other students from my campus.  I would be more than happy to provide over the phone this attorney with the information for my attorney and have further discussions but I must talk to them over the phone.
Feb. 9, 2009, 8:03 p.m.
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Unfortunate.
I wish I had found this site BEFORE I enrolled at Argosy. I see now that I am just one of thousands who has had their pockets drained by the university. My specific issue was transferring credits. Argosy agreed to accept my credits from a previous school. TWO MONTHS after I enrolled they changed their mind. It has been one story after another and nothing is reliable. Six months into the program, I am on my third advisor. I encourage all of you to contact the accrediting agency ---Argosy University is accredited by the Higher Learning Commission (HLC) and is a member of the North Central Association (NCA) (30 North LaSalle Street, Suite 2400, Chicago, IL 60602, 1.800.621.7440, www.ncahlc.org). 

Please understand we were all forced into an Arbitration agreement in order to enroll. Use the process --- This arbitration provision shall survive the termination of the student’s relationship with Argosy University. If the student has a question about the arbitration administrators mentioned above, the student can contact them as
follows: JAMS, 45 Broadway, 28th Floor, New York, NY, 10006,
www.jamsadr.com, 800.352.5267; National Arbitration Forum,
P.O. Box 50191,Minneapolis, MN, 55405, www.arb-forum.com,
800.474.2371.

WOULDN'T IT BE WORTH $500 TO GET YOUR MONEY BACK?!?!
Feb. 12, 2009, 4:16 a.m.
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insted of complaining about argosy, Im just posting this:  I have networked with 100's of other former students, and even a few law firms operated by former students.  We very much plan to class-action argosys'  money grubbing ass.  Theres 2 types of people on this site it seems.  Those who are argosys' damage control, making pretty comments about how fresh argosys' taint smells, and those who hate argosy like the poisonous bilge pump it is.  Dont just talk people do something about it.  See I am not one to not name names, I will site specific people, Like Dr. Monday McClain (a supposed professor) or Steven Hulik (a recruiter).  ANd I name names simply because I will not be hiding from argosy.  This school can kiss my ass, and Im going to rally as many pissed off people as I can, to jam a lawsuit up their ass.
Feb. 13, 2009, 3:48 p.m.
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Argosy sucks in the twin cities.  There are a bunch of clicks and the atmosphere is like high school.  This school suck and the advisors suck.  The recuiters promise flexibility but NOT TRUE.  

I have been harassed by other students.  Some students who witnessed this even filed a claim of harassment.  And what does the faculty members do.  ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!

My reputation has been ruined and other students whisper behind my back.  I have been isolated from my peers in that program.  

I wished that I never attend and was big waste of my money and more importantly MY TIME!!
Feb. 20, 2009, 12:55 a.m.
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I am an education student at Argosy Sarasota and about 3 classes away from completing my Masters. I have had an excellent experiance and really feel that I have learned what I was expecting to learn. I have a few friends that have attended other campuses and didn't have the same experiance. I will admit I have had some teachers that weren't great but overall the instruction was up to my standards. I would recommend Argosy Sarasota to anyone (I can't speak about the other locations) but as anyone looking for a graduate degree encourage you to do your homework. AU is not for everyone, no school is but it is for some people. Yes, it's expensive but most things worth it are.
Feb. 21, 2009, 7:31 p.m.
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I am currently a student at Argosy-Tampa. Unfortunately, I have been disappointed with Argosy in every way. Initially,prior to enrolling in Argosy, I was led to believe that it was "flexible" program with online and weekend classes. That is not true. There are no online classes for the Psy.D. program. Generally, there is one maybe 2 dates/times for each class and you either rearrange your life to fit that class in your schedule or you take it next year. The faculty are unapproachable, elitst, and sometimes downright mean. If they do not like you, you WILL somehow get kicked out of the program. The faculty has the upper hand because there is ZERO student representation and ZERO acccountability for the profressors. A substatial number of "core" faculty have left and are being replaced by former Argosy students. It seems that this is ideal for the faculty still on staff, because by bringing back former students as faculty, they are less likely to "make waves" or stand up to the status quo. I would NOT recommend this school to ANYONE. Find a reputable, established, state school.
Feb. 22, 2009, 8:13 p.m.
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DO NOT GO TO ARGOSY!!  I am in the twin cities and argosy university only wants your money. In my program three instructors left in less than a year due to how horrible the school is.  Not to mention the school is ridiculously unorganized, people do not get their financial aid in time, and they keep making up classes that are "required" to get our money!  Everyone that has ever gone there I have talked to hates it, as well as instructors!  RUN AWAY!! Do not go here under any circumstances.
Feb. 23, 2009, 3:58 p.m.
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RUN! AS FAST AS YOU CAN AWAY FROM ARGOSY! DO NOT GO HERE
March 4, 2009, 5:19 p.m.
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I am a former student at the Seattle Campus in the MA Counseling program.  I can tell you that this program is just horrible.  During my time in the program there was a complete change over in staff (several times), there are only two staff members still there that were there when I started and one of them is being investigated becasue of the number of complaints that have been filed against him. I was also informed that the Head of the Department failed to notify the administration of these complaints. I personally had filed complaints against this idividual and he was still placed on my final panel.  This was not a good situation.  Do your research and be careful.  I've heard some good things about some of the other programs at that campus but I would definately avoid the Counseling Psych program.  I have a lawsuit filed.
March 9, 2009, 9:23 p.m.
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Let me just say one more thing.  I'm not making excuses for Argosy.  I mean I've had some anal professors, but overall I can say I learned what I needed to learn.  Yeah you can fly your way through the process that's why you have to make the most of it.  I still am sorry to see all these reviews.  Boy, I will keep watching this post to see what happens.  And I'm just speaking for myself.  I found the program sustainable and when I went to graduation, I met other professionals in the education system working at the administrative level.  So I really don't know what to say.  Judging from all the negative reviews, it might be worth the time to reassess.  I never had an issue because I graduated cum laude.  I don't work for the school either.  I can only speak for the education program.  They had quite of few people in the field of education for several years when reading the teachers' pedigree.  Maybe this is one of the more acceptable programs.
March 15, 2009, 9:24 p.m.
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Argosy sucks ass!  They are liars and Dr. Bruss( the chair at the Orange County Campus Clinical Psy.D. program) is a racist, elitist, egotistical a**h*l*!  I was initially told by my recruiter that there was flexibility in the classes.  What a damn lie!  Class schedules change on a whim and the curriculm is b.s.!  A substantial portion of the students this year did not pass the comps exam, due to Dr. Bruss' convoluted questions.  How about learning to write pal?  Moreover, many of the fourth and fifth year students who went on their internship interviews did not get matched with their site.  Now they are out of a site and scrambling to get a part-time unpaid internship if they are lucky.  I wish I had known what I was getting into before I dished out $ 950 a unit!!!!!!!!!  If you want to get a doctorate in psychology, go to a real university!  Not this degree mill.
March 16, 2009, 11:54 a.m.
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I am surprised by the negative statements pertaining to Argosy. I wonder if the specific location and degree program influences the experiences people are having. I went to Atlanta and had a positive experience. I graduated last year with my MA in Professional Counseling. The faculty and staff were available and helpful, the students were mostly individuals who were already in professional fields who wanted to further their education. Many of the students had a graduate degree in another field and were simply looking to change careers. The professors were almost always working as a psychologist/therapist and so we got a great deal of real-world information. I've also known others who have attended Argosy and were just as pleased and successful. I am currently working in my field and am going toward my licensure, something Argosy works to make as a smooth transition.
March 16, 2009, 4:54 p.m.
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To KMB, 

I would have to say that I think the location and program hugely influences the experience.  I too was in the Counseling Psych program at the Seattle campus.  When I started the program I liked it.  But my program took a huge turn for the worse.  When they started it was much like yours, Professors were all active in the community and focused on helping the students succeed.  During my time in the program, this changed.  There was not one professor that was there when I started the turn over was huge.  The only 2 people still there were the head of the Dept and the Dir. of Training (who I've heard is now under investigation due to his treatment of students).  I had filed complaints against him and he was placed on my P.C.E. panel.  When I brought this to my professors attention I was told it was no big deal and that I would have no problem passing.  Needless to say they failed me.  I have a very good GPA and have never been told that I was lacking in any way/shape/form, but was told by him that I would need to complete another year and redo my practicum.  I told my practicum supervisor who was floored with this information as he thought I had done a good job and stated that he would have passed me.  I had double the number of hours in my practicum as was required.  I know of several other people who are in the same boat from my program, including a couple of people with 4.0 GPA's.  The Dir of Training was fired from his previous institution with complaints from other students about his behavior and attitude toward the student body.  I'm working on a lawsuit against the school as are several other people.
March 16, 2009, 6:47 p.m.
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After reading all the reviews, I find it interesting that a number of students at various Argosy locations seem to be failing their CCE. I can tell you at the Tampa location-it is an epidemic. The general sentiment among students is that Argosy is a business first. Argosy seems to accept anyone and eveyone into the program and then systematically fail a certain percentage of students. Most people are kicked out of the program based on the CCE. As other people have noted, alot of the students who fail have high GPA's, have successfully completed 2-3 years worth of coursework,  yet somehow manage to fail to meet the bare minimum on the CCE. There is something wrong with how Argosy is operating and it is bordering on, if not outright unethical. How many people at other campuses are experiencing people failing their CCE?
March 25, 2009, 10:53 p.m.
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OOOO myyy Gooosh!I cannot believe what I am hearing!I am graduating from Loyola University Chicago and I am interested in the Community Counseling program at Argosy in Chicago....U really, really, really scared me!!!!I don't know what to do...They started calling me and emailing me...scheduled for next week.Is is really that bad?No degree?Professors suck?Kicked out?Liars?Pls help!
March 26, 2009, 3:39 a.m.
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The problem with Argosy is that there is no accountability, no true valuable education, and too many possible land mines to fall into. Most of the teachers are not trained as teachers, they have a high turn over of staff and Presidents so no one can be held responsible for the disasters that will happen to you or people you know. Any time you make a change to your classes or program - ZAP! You've entered Argosy Hell- and you may not make it out. Ask for help? Zap! You're now a problem. Complain? Zap! You're out! SUE SUE SUE... that's the only way to stop the illegalities from continuing to be rampant. Everyone who was canned from a counseling program illegally were A students. Why? Stupid reasons pertaining to program director's LIKABILITY standards. She tried to kick someone out because she said she was "too secxksy", another because she was too quiet, others for medical reasons, a couple of others for sticking up for their friends, etc. etc. You want to suffer???? Go to Argosy, but don't say you weren't warned! You will suffer - or be a worse off person for it. DO you like Argosy??? It takes a special type of person to have no life experience, be a kiss ass, never challenge any wrongs. That's what they want. However, the largest harm is to the whole of society who allows this company to continue to stay in business. They have no conscience, no ethics, no morals, no genuine kindness. They definitely should not have a mental health program. This is the true harm - turning out people that have little value to the mental health profession. They passed 3 guys that I know of who were certified nut jobs. One guy kept talking about how he couldn't wait to get out of class to go get high. When someone gave him a dirty look about that, that woman got written up for "not getting along with classmates". The list of horror stories goes on and on. Don't have time to tell it all here, but the complaints are legitimate. Don't believe, go there and find out. If you don't have a hard time, you are lucky! Most people had a hard time and were constantly over-stressed and exasperated by the poor education, administration, and most of the teachers. SOme of the teachers were good - but most were sub-par and didn't have any teaching experience. I am talking about on campus. Good luck! You're going to need it!!!!!!!!!!!
March 27, 2009, 4:34 p.m.
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To Thinking of going to Argosy:

All I can do is provide you with my opinion of the Seattle Campus.  It's not worth it.  The stress will cause you to seek therapy.  I have been a professional in the community for more than 13 years.  I went back to get my MA in Counseling and even with a good GPA I was informed that I failed by PCE (Psychotherapy Competency Exam).  They provided things like not producing graduate level work (I was told by all my professors during my 3 years at the school that I was doing a great job even by my professor that sat on the panel (she apparently changed her mind but only for the PCE).  It was clear that the panel had no knowledge or understanding of my chosen theoretical theory and they were not willing to listen to my explanations based on my theory.  I had filed 2 complaints against one of my panel members and when I voiced a concern about him being on my panel I was told it was no big deal.  There is not one professor (other than the Director of Training (whom many students have filed complaints against) and the Head of the Department (who is afraid to have any negative interaction with the Dir. of Training and not willing to stand up for her opinions where he's concerned).  I had several professors that only taught one class then left as well as professors who would show up for the first half of the class then a new professor would be teaching the next half because the other professor quit.  I was actually accepted into the Doctoral program (which I was doing under a different department which had a better reputation) until they failed me on the PCE.  I find it interesting that I was more than qualified based on my grades, referral letters (several of which were from former professors and supervisors), writing samples, and interview only to be told that when I failed the program I was no longer a qualified candidate.  I cannot recommend this program to anyone.   When I started the program I was pleased.  All of my professors had active outside practices, but the school took a turn deciding only PhD’s would be hired, none of whom had anything other than a periodic forensic practice.   

All I can recommend is don't do it.  Find another program that is of quality and has a decent reputation.  Good luck
April 4, 2009, 10:20 a.m.
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April 12, 2009, 6:23 p.m.
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Hi,

I am seeking Online MBA and interested in earning my MBA degree via online from Argosy University, should I or should I not - if so, why and if not, why not?

Please help and thanks!
April 13, 2009, 8:47 a.m.
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Have you not read the comments above?????????
FIND ANOTHER SCHOOL!!!!!!!!!
You'll find all the reasons NOT to attend in all the posts--please take the time to read them :)
April 30, 2009, 3:40 a.m.
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Thanks :-)

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