American Military University

RS April 8, 2007 at 1:32 a.m.

AMU is an outstanding school in my opinion. I received my BA in Criminal Justice from AMU and am currently working on my Masters in Criminal Justice.

The format is excellent and the knowledge base of the teachers is amazing.

Jason June 30, 2007 at 4:30 a.m.

Has anyone applied to any jobs with the acceptance of AMU's degrees? Especially with a Master's degree and how does it compare to a non online degree?

ben July 19, 2007 at 11:26 p.m.

first i went to harvard, then got my doctorate at stanford... AMU is by far the best school i've ever attended. i think bush went there

JG August 8, 2007 at 7:35 p.m.

So far so good, working on a graduate degree in Strategic Intelligence. Hard work, experienced professor, Research = Easy, Analysis = Hard...
I'm very pleased with AMU.
JG, defense contractor, retired Navy CWO

Clarke August 27, 2007 at 12:47 a.m.

Joe, yes they will take your credit from your police academy, however, I do not know how they will apply it to psych. Give them a call, they are very nice and will do a lot of the leg work for you.

I have been very pleased with my experience there. All anyone on this board needs to know is that the school is regionally accredited, which means no B.S. I work in a very selective government agency and they accept it.

Luke September 4, 2007 at 4:52 a.m.

I want to sign up for the Intelligence\Terrorism Studies but I do not think any colleges in Florida will accept the credits. I would hate to have to start a degree program all over again. Are there any colleges in Florida that accept these credits and would they let me continue in an Intelligence degree?

Ray September 4, 2007 at 8:33 a.m.

I apologize. I left out the critical fact that the college I continued my studies in International Relations was at FIU.

Ray September 13, 2007 at 4:58 a.m.

Tim Grizzle,

I strongly suggest you actually read information onthe AMU website before posting such rhetoric.

The AMU is part of the the American Public University System (APUS). APUS encompasses both AMU and its sister instuition American Public University System. The arangement is exaclty similiar to many other University Systems such as the University System of Maryland (usmd.edu) which encompasses 11 institutions including well know UMBC, UMCP, and UMUC.

I think the funniest thing about your rhetoric is the fact that the VERY FIRST FAQ on the AMU page which states, "Is AMU accredited," answers the question of accrediation. Here is the link: http://www.amu.apus.edu/FAQ/FAQ.htm#accr... and while I am at it, here is the NCA link - http://www.ncahlc.org/index.php?option=c...

Semper FI...

Ray

John September 23, 2007 at 8:03 a.m.

I just want to say it makes me feel good to see all the postive posts about AMU. I am in the middle of registering and was debating on whether or not I should go with AMU and do the Intel Studies degree.

Cheers...

John

Adam October 3, 2007 at 3:10 p.m.

Yankee Samurai,

I just finished my degree with AMU, and so far it has been a good experiance. As for ROI, it has allowed me be more competative in the workforce, and I do know that AMU has a good rep in the D.C. area. To answer your question regarding opportunities/careers found/started post-graduation I can only say it has helped mine, and I do know a few people who have gone through OCS/officer programs using that degree.

Adam October 4, 2007 at 2:50 p.m.

I know a few people who have gone to OCS with this degree. AMU is regionally, and Nationally accredited. Why would they not accept it? Make sure that the recruiter is quouting from a Navy instruction, and not from their own opinion.

Taehoon kim October 10, 2007 at 2:47 p.m.

Hello, my name is Taheoon kim. I was wondering if a degree from AMU/APUS would be useful in South Korea, I am attending a "real" university here but personal reasons are making it difficult to finish my undergraduate studies.

I asked around and most of the companies here in Korea gave me the "you sad fool" kinda look when I asked them if the degree would be acceptable.. online degrees here are frowned upon, I guess. Would it be wise to start work with a degree from AMU/APUS? And by "real" I mean a brick and mortar uni, no offense meant to anyone if any taken.

I have finished Highschool so if I start work after graduating from APUS/AMU, that will be the only Uni degree I will have for awhile. ( until 1-I goto a "real" uni
2-I take another online course )

Everyone here keeps on telling me not to goto APUS/AMU because it's an ONLINE uni.. which I don't get because on the site it says it is accreddited on the state and federal level in states making it just as good as any other uni. Any advice?

If you can please mail me !
tae1822@hanmail.net

Study Man October 14, 2007 at 9:30 a.m.

The bottom line is that AMU is a top rated university that is regionally and nationally accredited offering intelligence and security courses you aren't going to find at outside universities. What else does one need to know? If anyone questions what they will learn at AMU? I have a strong suggestion take one class, keep in mind AMU began as a military/government training institution and has many military and Ph.d instructors from top ranked colleges, who are also teaching at the same time at many of the top-rated traditional universities, so if you are up to the challenge just do one class (many may run back to their traditional colleges, because their traditional colleges were so much easier than American Military University.) AMU is for profit and should be. That is not an issue, tell me what traditional university isn't? Has anyone ever seen the Ivy League Endowments? and their presidents and top staff salaries? Check into it and you will realize what a value AMU still is.

Sam October 14, 2007 at 6:47 p.m.

Ian,

Qualty and money AMU is an outstanding value, at least still, for the very top-notch education they offer. Second, they were one of the first to teach online, they have perfected it and have been a model for many of the traditional colleges distance programs. Since I took my first Graduate class at AMU back in 2001 - and it was TOUGH far tougher than any Florida traditional college class I'd ever taken, yes I am in FL too, it is shocking how many have followed on AMU's heels and started distance programs. AMU knows distance learning better (remember they were one of the first to offer distance degrees and it was for the military so if you are looking FBI it appears the choice is clear (they are in the top 3% too of distance universities - having full dual Regional and National accrediation! Are the traditional universities distance degree programs also fullly accredited? I am not sure.) AMU has students all over the world and the vast majority I think it is 8 out of 10 are government/military stationed in and outside the country. There is no way Penn or any other can top American Military University for distance learning, Harvard Extension can't either because they still don't offer a distance degree entirely offine, you have to physically be at the school for a couple of classes and when I looked into it their distance teaching methods, to me it was pathetic compared to what I knew about AMU's procedures. All it appeared you did there was watch a monitor on your computer of a teacher in a regular class, and wow do they soak you dry financially factoring having to be there for a number of classes for that honor. Remember the traditional schools have tried to jump on distance learning for money. Few of them know what they are doing technologically in terms of distance learning. Have you seen how some of these schools consider distance learning? Via these horrid video cameras? Little interaction. Little to no follow-up. I can tell you that is not what AMU does. What I would highly recommend is talk to the FBI or the Pentagon counselors or AMU not take this page of comments alone go directly to the people at AMU. I came back for an entire B.S. degree and am very pleased. Remember AMU train people who are now at the Pentagon and the CIA and they are recommending their staff go to AMU! One gal who AMU has interviewed on their site was recommeneded to AMU from the counselor at the Pentagon! The majority of the people in your field are government or top-level professionals, just go to the site now go to your major and check the instructor credentials out - they have numerous Ph.d professors and many top college and Ivy League grads teaching there. It will blow you away. What Florida school has that kind of comprehensive background? And military/governmental credentials? With those kind of contacts and instructors? I have no financial interest in AMU I am only a student. I've looked into the FL schools myself and they do NOT compare.

Donny October 17, 2007 at 3:42 p.m.

I'd like to know about the MBA too because everything else I have read about this school is incredible. I checked out the press releases from the various media regarding how many US Government/Military departments have a connection with this school, and or have mention with them for training. Google this (department of justice and "american military university") it is really impressive.

Kathy October 21, 2007 at 5:12 p.m.

I don't understand your question "Has anyone been able to teach at a brick and mortar school with an AMU degree?" As AMU has both regional and national standing, of course they can.

Kathy October 22, 2007 at 2:45 p.m.

Hank, then you would have to contact the university for those stats. From my POV as a student, many go to AMU for careers in government or as preparation in such fields as intelligence, science, and research (and more,) for later graduate study at AMU or a brick and mortar, or simply work in areas such as the Secret Service, Homeland Security (many government agencies direct their people to AMU - on the site is the story of one gal from the Pentagon) or out to private sectors. Teaching is teaching, if you have your credential, thats the bottom line so I don't get why you are so specific to AMU on this question.

Ian October 23, 2007 at 9:14 p.m.

Sam, I truly appreciate your timely, and lengthy, response. According to the FBI website, regional accreditation is all that matters. Of course, one still needs to qualify under an entry program but that is another story. Take care.

Carl October 24, 2007 at 5:46 a.m.

I will have to share some good things about AMU. 1) You can "go to class" in front of your computer with a beer and a slice of pizza and read the postings in the online classroom. 2) You do not have to listen to annoying fellow classmates as you would in a regular classroom. 3) The online classroom can be engaging - be careful the military academy alumni are very good. 4)No parking - No commuting. 5)As long as you have an internet connection you can go to class anywhere - even from an internet cafe in Munich - just take your books with you. 6)The books required for class are the same as at a brick and mortar university. 7)Just do the work on time - no excuse - however you can make arrangements beforehand if you are going to be late. Also, follow the directions - they are fairly straightforward. 8)The accreditation is a plus - I checked and AMU was listed if not, it was under APUS. 9)A lot of work is independent and I feel I learn a lot, more so than in a regular classroom. 10)They have some interesting classes that are hard to find - especially if you are an aficionado of military history or intelligence studies - not to many universities offer the History of CIA.

A word of advice: in the introductory courses such as graduate methodology courses - DO NOT display a freshman mentality - just do the work, do it on time, read all of the instructions, and do it well. The online library has special tools that will show you how to cite a source using the correct MLA style - no need to refer to the Bedford Handbook for Writers. Please use the spell checker function...

Ian October 26, 2007 at 2:38 a.m.

After doing some research, I discovered an ambiguous fact on the FBI website; a Special Agent is required to have earned their Bachelor's "in residence." Now, I am not sure if this means that the degree must be earned through traditional on-campus attendance, often referred to as a "brick and mortar" school, or if it implies that attendance cannot be earned through life-experience or diploma granting mills that can be paid for over the internet.

Nevertheless, this issue has raised some concerns in my mind about the FBI's willingness to accept a degree from AMU. I sincerely hope that this is not the case, as I am excited about the academic challenge everyone claims AMU offers. It would be a shame to learn that the FBI does not accept a degree from this institution, as I have heard such wonderful things about AMU. If anyone happens to be an expert in this arena, I would greatly appreciate their input. If not, I will have to contact the recruiter at my local field office. Thank, you.

Ian

Ben October 28, 2007 at 7:14 p.m.

This is in response to IAN. I know someone who received their degree from UMUC in Sociology. UMUC is part of the APUS. They are currently a field agent in the FBI. This is no bull.

Thom October 31, 2007 at 1:19 p.m.

Being that AMU trains in areas highly specific to the Secret Service and US Government, and btw was founded to do just that for military and other (I've looked into all this many areas of the US Military have chosen AMU over all others for training. Go look it up yourself.) Other universities don't measure up, they just don't on all counts when it comes to military and governmental college level degrees, and this is simply fact. That made AMU very attractive to me. You would not believe the people you have teaching you there not to mention the intense level of instruction, as opposed to the failed and all too often frustrated professional teachers I've encountered at brick and mortal university. Regardless the question is the FBI, away from their established government connections, the bottom line is to be an agent one must possess a four-year degree from a college or university accredited by one of the regional OR national institutional associations, APUS - AMU American Military Univeristy has BOTH. SO END OF STORY.

Didi November 5, 2007 at 8:43 p.m.

Hey everyone,

I received my B.A in Business Administration from AMU and am looking to receive my M.B.A in Global Business Management. I have a few choices of College’s to attend, but because I am in the Air Force Reserves I think AMU will be my best option.

I wanted to get some feedback on the quality of AMU degrees. Has anyone had a hard time getting hired because of their degree from AMU?

My parents seem to think that an AMU degree holds a lower standard because it is online.

Please help…

Thanks,
Didi

Didi November 6, 2007 at 5:51 p.m.

Adam,

Thanks... I agree completely. I have really enjoyed my experience at AMU, and it has allowed me to work full-time and fulfill my reserve commitments. :)

I agree with you 100%. I think an education is what you make of it, and how hard you try.

Julian November 26, 2007 at 2:33 p.m.

I would recommend Excelsior over AMU...i had a bad experience and would not recommend them.

Adam November 28, 2007 at 8:32 p.m.

Jim, here is bio for one of the MSSI professors, of course if you listen to the guy posting as Jesus, apparently he knows more about the "real world" then this instructor does becuase he is a B&M snob. According to the guy posting as Jesus, it doesent matter if the professor at AMU, invented/designed the Lockwood Analytical Method for Prediction (LAMP), which is in use by all Inetll agencies in the U.S. It only matters that you take courses from a B&M school, If you call learning Intell from the people who do it everyday a "paper weight" thats one hell of a paperweight I would like to have. You make the call.

Dr. Jonathan S. Lockwood Biographical Information:

Civilian Education:

B.A. (History/Psychology) University of Tampa, April 1977
M.A. (International Affairs) University of Miami, May 1978
Ph.D.(International Affairs) University of Miami, May 1980
MSSI, Joint Military Intelligence College, August 1994

Military Education:

Military Intelligence Officer Basic Course, 1980
Tactical Intelligence Staff Officer Course, 1981
Military Intelligence Officer Advanced Course, 1984
Combined Arms Staff Services School (CAS3), 1986
Command and General Staff College, 1987
Post Graduate Intelligence Program (PGIP), 1993
Air War College Nonresident Course, 2000

Tank November 29, 2007 at 5:05 p.m.

I would recommend contacting the Education Coordinators for AMU. They are extremely helpful and they can answer many of your questions if you are interested in attending AMU. You can locate your regional rep on the AMU website.

Ron December 3, 2007 at 4:17 a.m.

Can anyone comment on AMU's History program? Also, please discuss on courseloads specifically. Much of the information available through RateMyProfessors.com doesn't address the "reading and writing intensive" issues. For example, for a particular course, how many books were assigned? How many quizzes, tests, research papers, and online questions were required? I am trying to compare and contrast what I am currently doing in a typical 16 week class: 2 books, 10 quizzes, 64 online questions, 4 tests (including mid-term and final), and 1 (1500-2000 word) research paper.
Thanks.

Joe December 6, 2007 at 4:13 a.m.

Has anyone been admitted to a Ph.D. program (in a traditional school) using their AMU masters degree?

keith December 7, 2007 at 5:18 a.m.

has anyone else been accepted in another b&m school's grad or phd program with a amu degree?

Dude December 8, 2007 at 12:59 a.m.

I was accepted to a masters program at Capitol College which is an engineering school closely aligned with NASA.

Shannon December 12, 2007 at 7:36 p.m.

I am not a student at AMU myself, but my friend just graduated from AMU with an MPA, and she WAS accepted for a PhD program at Walden University.

Matthew December 18, 2007 at 3:37 p.m.

I am two classes away from earning a degree in Legal Studies from AMU and going to OCS. Most of the professors for the core classes are JAG officers. I am getting a relevant, real-world education. AMU is great for those wanting to achieve career progression in the Federal government. It is also a great place to network with other government and contracting professionals.

Their graduate programs don't have all the right accreditations though...for instance, their Master of Public Health degree is not accredited by the Council on Education for Public Health (CEPH). But, this is a maturing institution and I am sure they will gain the necessary credentials for these programs in the future, especially if more students demand it from the University staff...

John December 19, 2007 at 11:04 p.m.

For what it is worth, I qualified to take, and passed, the Special Agent Phase One exam for the FBI.

Adam December 20, 2007 at 6:22 p.m.

Are you ever going to be able to even provide any subtance to anything you say or are just just going to swing by now and again with your one liners?

Everytime you do that, you simply reinforce everything we say, and demote everything you say. For someone who apparently is trying to speak for "real schools" and the "real world" you sure are retarded

Mike December 21, 2007 at 2:40 a.m.

This school has got to be the best kept secret in distance education. I'm enrolled in the MPA program and have talked with and plan on attending UAB in about a year. Infact, I talked with several B&M schools (almost all being the state's flagship school) prior to deciding on UAB and every one of the schools would admit me unconditionally (with the proper grades ofcourse) into their Ph.d programs with my AMU masters. This school is very well respected. Don't believe the trolls with their hidden agendas. I have a B.A from Norwich U and probably would have chosen AMU over them if AMU had RA back then. Well, I didn't even know about AMU back then anyway.

The classes are very challenging but I love this school!

Good luck in your studies!

Anthony December 21, 2007 at 6:33 p.m.

To Disappointed,

I'm sorry it didn't work out for you. Unlike many of the other online schools, AMU scrutinize transcripts much harder than many of the other online schools like the Apollo group schools (UofP, Capella, etc.) and other online schools who are only nationally accredited. AMU fully understands that they will loose potentially great students by scrutinizing transcripts the way they do, but maintaining high acedamic standards is paramount with this school. AMU has a fast growing reputation as a premeir online institution of higher learning in several highly respected circles. I know because I'm someone who is in one of those circles, and they are not willing to tarnish this growing image due to money. Also, the school is in the process of trying to achieve several business/professional accreditations.

I'm glad you enjoyed the school and the one class you did take with AMU. I will also warn you against schools who will accept anything you submit to them for college credit.

Happy studies and happy holidays :)

Disappointed December 22, 2007 at 1:33 a.m.

Anthony,

I agree with keeping standards high. However, their image wouldn't be tarnished by giving me the credits I earned through my community college. I was also under the impression that I would get some credit for my law enforcement certifications. I could see if they chose not to accept credits from some of the online schools or diploma mills out there. Of course AMU should scrutinze credits carefully. However, my credits are legit and so are my law enforcement certifications. They certaintly could have given me credit for that and it would not have tarnished their rep.

I'd love to continue at AMU, but to lose all those credits doesn't seem right. That's the only reason I'll be looking elswhere. Otherwise it's a solid school. I wish it could have been worked out.

Moses December 22, 2007 at 9:19 a.m.

To Disappointed, AMU not giving those credits to you was the best thing they could have done for you. Go to a REAL SCHOOL and get a REAL EDUCATION. I hire for a fortune 500 company and the 3 AMU grads i had were leagues behind their colleagues at similar schools. Poor kids could barely construct a sentence. I will never hire an AMU grad again.

Thanks December 22, 2007 at 8:16 p.m.

I just want to say thanks to AMU for my recent job promotion. I work for AFLAC and have been wanting to be my department's director for quite some time now. The Execs liked me alot so that was no issue. The issue was education. That is no longer a problem now thanks to AMU. I now have "Director" behind my name.

By the way, what's up with this LOSER Moses. I've never understood the obession some people have on various message boards attempting to disrupt them without substance. Anyway, you just have to write these people off as disgruntled ex-something. Moses, get a life man. It's kinda embarrassing what you're doing :(

John December 22, 2007 at 11:25 p.m.

I have been thinking about starting a masters program as well. I have heard that it is better to get a second degree from a different school. I am really interested in the strategic intel degree from AMU, but am worried it may be looked at unfavorably due to my BA being from the same place.

1. Does anyone know of a school that offers the same type, online, at the same price?

2. Should I just go with AMU or would that hurt my chances later on with federal LE?

Anyone here recruit in the past that could give some advice?

keith December 23, 2007 at 4:11 a.m.

are there any more stories out there of people being accepted into another school's masters/ph.d program who have a ba/bs from amu? especially an accredited sac school? obviously amu is a terrific school, i'm just curious.

Ron December 23, 2007 at 11:31 p.m.

Actually, Moses, it's "Adam," with the comma inside the quotation marks; and, it's not "Whose"...It's who's or Who is the retard, now? There's a comma after the word - "retard." Yes, I agree, it's an embarrassment (two r's ) when adults act like children...

Moses December 24, 2007 at 3:47 a.m.

To Ron: I have a degree from MIT and make 7 figures. How much do you make with that paperweight from AMU. Ha Ha...Whose got owned...lmao

Moses December 24, 2007 at 7:05 a.m.

wow = moron..

John December 24, 2007 at 8:37 p.m.

Something tells me Moses is sitting in his moms basement eating cheetos and doing his "homework" from UoP.

Marie December 24, 2007 at 10:47 p.m.

AMU is not as great as some would like you to believe. They would not accept 46 of my transfer credis. I transferred to Excelsior and it's been bliss ever since.

Anthony December 25, 2007 at 12:48 a.m.

To Marie,

AMU accepted everyone of my credits when I transferred to it; 80 if memory serves correct. Marie, what were the source of your credits?

Randall December 26, 2007 at 3:50 a.m.

Sorry for the typo Moses . . .I know it should be "hear"

keith December 26, 2007 at 10:07 p.m.

if we could please ignore community college graduates like Moses and his alter ego Solomon (and probably every other negative poster on this page), can i please get some feedback on my original question: are there any more stories out there of people being accepted into another school's masters/ph.d program who have a ba/bs from amu? especially an accredited sac school? obviously amu is a terrific school, i'm just curious.

Mike December 27, 2007 at 12:14 a.m.

...continued from above

Also, I recieve $4,500 a year in Army tuition assistance to attend almost any public or private college in America. I have recieved a B.A. from the Norwich U and currently working on my M.A. at AMU.
I've talked to U of Alabama Birmingham and plan on entering their Ph.d program in about a year. Well, I also have $26,000 in my Montogomery G.I. Bill that I haven't touched yet because I've used the $4,500 TA I get from the Army (and a couple other military scholarships to offset tuition on the couple occasions where I ran out of Army TA before the fiscal year ended) to pay my tuition. Well, since I'll be out of the Army when I start my Ph.d, I'll just kick in my G.I. Bill and would have earned three degrees from respected schools and not owe one red cent in college loans etc.
So, who cares II, its not "plain and simple".
By the way, to all the CSU students/alumni, enjoy your studies and I'm really impressed with the comments on this site. Too bad you guys have to deal with so many trolls. I hope your school visits this site and maybe apply for RA to maybe keep some of the trolls away. Study hard.

I left out one other thing. I've been exploring my marketability in the the civilian job sector since I'll be a private citizen again here in the near future and I will tell you one thing- the demand for educated former servicemembers is very high. I guess that's what experience, discipline, high morals, correct value, proper ethics, living and working by sound ethos, and a little education will get you. So, for any military people on here- get the paper and everything else will fall into place. Trust me. We are a hot commodity out there ;-)

Anthony December 28, 2007 at 2:06 a.m.

Here's what I believe is the bottom line when it comes to people like Solomon/Moses (or should I say a person like Solomon/Moses): you must understand that these people have serious agendas. Anytime you see someone spend this much time in opposition to something that can only benefit mankind, you bet your bottom that they have an agenda and that agenda is normally some type of weird political agenda. Education, no matter how you get it, should always be welcomed. You all have to understand that people like S&M-S/M are more than likely the same type people who don't believe in women's rights, desegregation, civil rights, etc. They are also probably homophobic, closed minded, schizophrenic attention whores who are so afraid of change because they know that if you give several people the same opportunities that they feel they are only entitled to, it will expose the fact that one really don’t have to be special or privy to earn a college degree or anything else if given an even playing field. These type guys are so paranoid and scared of this idea called distance learning because it taps open a whole new barrel of possibilities for so many. Because of DL, the world opens up for so many who have historically had barriers in front of them in their attempt at getting a higher education such as single parents, working adults, military personnel, minorities, in some cases- high school underachievers, etc. These guys dread this new competition. It reminds them that all that drinking and smoking weed on campus from age 18-22 might come back and haunt them. They know the people mentioned above pursue a higher education for what it was meant and it scares the STDs out of them. Education and experience- hmmm. Anyways S&M-S/M, there’s nothing for you guys to worry about anyway. Remember, no one will hire us and our degrees are worthless anyway so you guys have nothing to worry about.

ham December 29, 2007 at 5:41 p.m.

hello.
I am an European with brick & mortar degrees from a western university taught in French.
I also have many A grade GPA senior courses taught in English, in English, Philosophy and literature.
I was sincerely interested in AMU/APU, but they proved inflexible and demanded that I sit TOEFL, irrespective of anything I might say.
I received a couple months ago a swift offer of enrollment for a philosophy M.A with a brick&mortar, reputable UK university, which should give you an idea (and yes, they requested notarized transcripts and academic references ).
Since Oxford actually proved to be more flexible, I said: the hell with AMU/APU.
Food for thought.

ham December 30, 2007 at 9:14 a.m.

"Um, WHAT? TOEFL just may be needed in this case. Sorry."

Um, what? You probably misread the line where I said that I have been accepted without questions by B&M UK universities (English is the official language there I suppose ) after they evaluated my transcripts.
As I said, AMU/APU proved to be more inflexible and demanding than Oxford and a bunch of other schools with (understandably) better name recognition.
I examined various universities providing online education (no, not the Capella/university of Phoenix kind ) and A L L were willing to help and to accommodate my needs to a large extent.
When I approached a few of AMU/APU recommended credentials evaluators (pending AMU's official reply) I shook my head in disbelief: one of these (so-called) top-notch evaluators mistook my B&M university for one with a similar name; another had never heard of it; a third lectured me about how I could get transcripts online with my credit card...too bad THAT university (big state university) requests that you send a signed request and a cheque by post, and no online facility is provided.
Food for thought...

chris December 30, 2007 at 11:11 p.m.

Hi,

I am looking to do a Masters at AMU. I have a bachelors in political science and criminal justice from U of Richmond. I'm not sure exactly what I want to do with the Masters, but I think any federal police or intelligence agency is a possibility. Does anyone have an opinion on which degree would be most useful to my nonspecific goals?
I am looking at International relations, homeland security, national security, and strategic intelligence.

Thanks for your help

Karl January 1, 2008 at 1:53 p.m.

This site must certainly not be monitored, nor is it "unbiased," as they claim, or some of these idiotic posts would have been removed. How ridiculous and unlikely it would be for anyone who really attended MIT (and so-called makes "seven figures" a year - yes, seven is spelled out) to sit around here (using terms like "retard") with nothing better to do but libel a credible insititution, do so because they surely must be losers who have far too much time on their hands. Educated professionals simply do not have the time nor interest in such things.

And since MIT has been brought up, to make something perfectly clear I also attend AMU. I am interested in a brick and mortar graduate program as AMU doesn't offer my field of interest. MIT has invited me to come up to tour their Masters department. AMU is fully accredited, it is the same as any other major university. I have a fellow student in one class that was at Harvard last semester. So anyone trying to paint a bad image of AMU they simply have no idea what they are writing about.

Thom January 3, 2008 at 4:10 p.m.

AMU is fair, and generous, with transfer credits. Like any other "real and credible" university, if the credit is from an accredited school, or institution, you will receive credit if it dovetails AMU's catalogue requirements. As with any university, their policies strictly follow Federal guidelines. It is that simple. I received 60 units toward my B.S.

Carlos January 4, 2008 at 4:04 a.m.

Does anyone has any opinion about AMU Masters in Space Studies?

Matthew January 8, 2008 at 2:59 a.m.

I am a civilian interested in attending AMU's MA in Transportation Management program both online and taking classes at the United States Merchant Marine Academy at Kings Point, NY. Does anyone have positive or negative feedback regarding this program? Thanks in advance for your help!

Brad January 10, 2008 at 1:52 p.m.

Matthew,
I am currently enrolled in the Transportation and Logistics degree program. It is a great program with Profs who have both real world and academic experiance. I looked around alot before I went with AMU and found it to be the best program for working adults IMO.
Good luck in whatever you decide to do.

Matthew January 12, 2008 at 5:58 a.m.

Brad,
I am very enthusiastic about the Transportation and Logistics degree program. My concern is that I do not have contacts in the field and since I will be changing careers this would be a major obstacle. Does AMU have student internships/career placement or networking opportunities for graduates?
Thanks for your response!!

Dude January 15, 2008 at 11:46 a.m.

Victor,

I took several classes from UMUC before I moved onto AMU, there are a few reasons for this. First is that for about the same total cost, all of your undergrad books are included in the tution at AMU. On paper UMUC tuition is a bit lower, but when you add the cost of books into the mix AMU becomes cheaper. The second factor was UMUC's advisors, and transfer credit process sucks. Third, AMU's class offerings are much better then UMUC. Because of this I was able to finish my BS, and still have GI Bill left over for my Masters. Fourth and finally, UMUC states they are military friendly, but I have heard from several military members they they have received the shaft from UMUC from going on deployment. AMU is built around knowing that you will deploy, and they go out of their way to take care of you.

AJ January 26, 2008 at 7 a.m.

I rather attend wither South University or American Intercontinental University. They offer shorter accelerated classes (5 weeks). It seems to only take 2-3 years top to earn your degree with them. AMU just will take too much time for me.

CS January 29, 2008 at 1 p.m.

Incidentally, to a couple of the negative posters. Ham, American brick and mortar schools also require the TOEFL. Deciding not to attend a school because you'd have to take a simple proficiency test seems a bit short sighted. And Moses... A company allegedly pays you at least a million dollars a year to hire people yet you were unable to discover that they "could barely construct a sentence" until AFTER you hired them? What kind of interviews do you conduct in your mom's basement?

buc January 31, 2008 at 3:05 a.m.

I am a bit older now(45) and want to finish my degree. I was wondering how 48 quarter hours would transfer into semester hours.For those of you pondering whether to finish your degree or not, I suggest you move with haste!!!

David February 4, 2008 at 3:48 a.m.

The price is right. This has to be the most affordable master's degree I could find. I am grateful not to pay $500+ per graduate unit which is the going rate for all of the master's degree programs I looked at. I firmly believe that universities like Norwich and others see the online degree programs as cash cows for their universities and hike the rates up as much as possible. Although AMU is for-profit, it seems to understand the important service it provides for the military, law enforcement, and other government agencies. AMU does not financially gouge students even though the market rate is much higher. However, many people may not be aware that AMU has just become a publicly traded company. That means it is issuing common stock and will be more profit driven like other corporations. I do not know how this will affect the quality of the education or the reputation of the school. I just hope AMU does not move in the direction of UOP and others whose reputation is utterly horrible.

With all of this said I will continue on and finish my master's degree at AMU. I think the professors and programs are awesome. They are all directly relevant to military and government missions. I have been treated very well by every single person I have ever contacted at AMU. When I went to the state funded B&M I was just a number. They were getting state funding regardless if they treated me poorly. The price at AMU is definitely right and the best I could find for the quality, meaning great value for your buck. Also, I am in great company. In my last course my fellow students came from every segment of the military which included officers and NCOs from every branch. Occupations ranged from pilots to infantrymen. I was the only law enforcement officer. Needless to say we had some worthwhile discussions with varied perspectives. These are the high quality people I enjoy interacting with. I doubt Yahoo or Microsoft would be interested in my master’s degree in National Security Studies: however, this degree is not meant to be used at corporations. AMU degrees are specifically meant for military, government, and law enforcement. I really do not care if a corporate recruiter raises an eyebrow over my degree. Their mission is much different than those who attend AMU.

I hope all of this helps. I will visit this web site again to see if people have any questions for me. Good luck in all your future endeavors.

ham February 9, 2008 at 1:48 p.m.

quote:
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Incidentally, to a couple of the negative posters. Ham, American brick and mortar schools also require the TOEFL. Deciding not to attend a school because you'd have to take a simple proficiency test seems a bit short sighted.
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Well, first how can you construct my post as "negative"? I simply said what happened to me. I have no reason to both say AMU is good or to say it's bad.
Second, I found at least a couple accredited B&M American universities offering online degrees willing to accommodate my needs.
Third, I said i have credentials to support my claim in the form of transcripts from accredited universities (not the Phoenix/Capella kind, though )... I don't ask anybody to trust my pretty face.
My only point is that AMU was more inflexible than Oxford & other B&M UK universities...which says all.
Plenty of fish in the sea.
I am not saying I am good and I am not saying I am bad, but after time, money & efforts I invested in earning my credits, I am unwilling to prove anything of that sort to anybody...call me short-sighted if you want.

Victoria February 26, 2008 at 8:51 p.m.

Hello,

I'm looking into AMU's MBA program. Does anyone have any feedback or experience with this MBA program? Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Chris March 2, 2008 at 9:23 p.m.

Victoria,

I found David's post, which is 5 posts up from yours, to be very informative. He made some very clear points about program accreditation. I was considering the AMU MBA, but may not knowing about the need for AMU to have an AACSB for its program.

Javier March 10, 2008 at 4:23 p.m.

Actually most of the universities are providing their courses online. I believe the military have a great experience in the area to teach online, experience in the field and they are economic, other universities run from 25K to 30K to finish a master degree. I will start taking classes this summer.

3ndr March 13, 2008 at 2:55 a.m.

Hey, folks, just thought I'd throw in my two cents...
I've currently completed about half of the required credits for the Intelligence undergrad program, and I've found AMU to be quite the institution. Initially, I must admit to being quite skeptical of the idea of enrolling in an online university, but AMU has really made an impact on my thoughts on that topic. Speaking as someone who's usually at or near the top of any academic course he's in, I have to say that I cannot slouch my way through AMU's course work; you WILL learn in those classes. However, to piggyback on something David posted above (Feb 4, 08), AMU has recently gone public. I didn't find this out until I was suggesting to one of my professors that the new course I had just completed should be made a bit stiffer (yes, I'm the sadistic ******* that contributes to making AMU tougher for everyone else... lol) and he informed me that the original lesson plan was much tougher, but the department had been ordered to tone it down for the sake of preserving student enrollment. I hope this is an isolated incident and not a new trend, but only time will tell. On the other hand, in AMU's favor, I've also found professors willing to give extra work to those who are interested in extra learning. In response to the those who have posted above and claimed encounters with AMU grads who couldn't formulate a proper sentence, I simply do not think it possible. I think the only classes I've been in that HAVEN'T required writing assignments were Math and Physics. The class I just completed required four papers, one of which ended up being a 18 page paper, and the 'A' level, according to the rubric, was "Graduate level." Some of the lower division (general ed) professors may slouch a bit, but the upper division (department specific) professors are often quite exacting when grading. I highly recommend AMU, for now.

Elle March 19, 2008 at 2:20 p.m.

Ok, so that's a no on the Religious studies. How are math classes in an online format? I need College Algebra, and I'm not entirely convinced that I will succeed without classroom instruction. The same goes for my science/lab requirement. Anything anyone can tell me about this would be greatly appreciated.

Elle March 20, 2008 at 2:18 p.m.

Thank you, Lee, that did help. I finally did all the paperwork to transfer yesterday, and it looks like I may not need another math class. If I do, it will be statistics which I've already taken once and done very well in. No such luck on the science/lab, so I'm still interested to hear from anybody who has fulfilled that requirement online.

CTA1 March 26, 2008 at 12:48 a.m.

I am currently pursing a B.A. in Political Science with AMU. After obtaining my degree I want to attend law school. Are there any current AMU alumni who have been accepted into a law school accredited by the aba?

Webb March 30, 2008 at 5:10 a.m.

Hey, this may sound like a stupid question, but I'm wondering how to place AMU on a government app/resume? Since AMU is a part of APUS, and APUS is the one accredited, how would you write it? For example:

American Military University (APUS)
American Military University (American Public University S)
American Public University Systems (AMU)

I ask this because the company may not have ever heard of AMU, and look it up, and not find it accredited.
-Thanks

Tony April 4, 2008 at 5:20 p.m.

Wow, it's been awhile that I looked at these posts. Thanks Lee for answering my question! I already called up AMU regarding the transfer. They also said they accept the transfer credits. Good news for me! Thanks!

Heather April 16, 2008 at 6:54 p.m.

btw, my husband is doing a post-doc and we are not sure where we are going to live as his field is VERY competitive I will not be able to move wherever I want for a job. I would need a degree that I could use to work anywhere, as in local law enforcement for instance.

Thanks again!

Tony April 19, 2008 at 3:45 p.m.

Im working as I type on starting my master in history at APU. I was doing a little research about the school and came across this site. So far the process has been ok. The "advisors" are quite slow in responding to emails but I dont take it personally. The advisors are probably answering hundreds of email per day. What some of us must realize is that no one will do the work for us. If we want to enroll, receive VA benefits, apply for student loans etc then we must do the work for ourselves and make it happen. A professor once told me, "if getting a degree was easy then everyone would have them."

As far as transfering credits is concerned. That is just life my friends. All schools wether traditional or non traditional will usually disallow certain classes and credits. That is just the way it is. If a school only accepts half your transfer credits just be thankful that they accepted those or find another school.

Heather April 23, 2008 at 12:54 a.m.

I have decided that a Master's degree would be my best option, but I am having a hard time deciding which program. I would like to be able to get a job anywhere I go so I was thinking CJ with a concentration in terrorism or a certificate later on. I am still looking for more independent reviews of this school. It still seems to good to be true.

Webb April 30, 2008 at 2:31 a.m.

Thanks Lee! I really appreciate your research..I'm attending a college for my B.A. and plan to take a few courses from AMU that will transfer back as "open electives" I plan to take Covert Action or terrorism/counter terrorism. Anybody ever take these classes?

Dan May 2, 2008 at 9:22 p.m.

I am an alumni of AMU and have gone back there to get my Masters. I think it is a great school for anybody. For those in active duty military, there is no excuse not to go to this school for your undergraduate work. They accept your military training for credits, TA covers the tuition, and the books are paid for by an automatic grant. My BA only cost $75 for a transfer credit evaluation and $75 graduation fee.

Jon May 14, 2008 at 1:24 p.m.

Will AMU help raise your rank in the Navy I want to take BUDS for the Seals but I need advice should I take AMU before or after joining the Navy. Also if anyone of you graduates is Apart of the NSW. Please give me advice on training tips.

The Whistler May 21, 2008 at 5:31 p.m.

Keep watching. It will happen. 2009 could be a great year for AMU.

Scott (AMU '07) June 3, 2008 at 4:37 a.m.

I don't want to jam up the board too much, but having completed my BA from AMU over the last 3 years, I wanted to share some of my thoughts/experiences. The three big reasons I chose AMU were; flexibility - the instructors are very understanding of TDY's and family issues that impact due dates and have always worked with me to submit completed work as soon as I was able to, cost - not only are the classes cheap compared to other online schools and residence programs, but the undergraduate book grant is unbeatable (and you get to keep the books). That's right, free books for undergrads. You can sell them back if you like, but I've been able to build a nice little research library on terrorism and foreign policy for myself. The last great thing about AMU is the specificity of coursework. For my master's, I've considered Troy, Virginia Tech, and some of the others, but the course offerings can't compete with AMU. If you want to study low-intensity conflict with a focus on terrorism, AMU is the place to go.

Paul B. June 4, 2008 at 1:32 a.m.

This is a fantastic school, with a "real," degree. I am an agent with the United States Secret Service, and an AMU graduate.

If you want your name in the paper, go to the FBI. If you want to make a difference, look at the Secret Service. Sorry just a friendly jab to my buddies at the FBI.

In all seriousness, it is a fantastic school, and everything is earned, nothing is given.

Look no further

To McBride June 15, 2008 at 9:22 p.m.

I agree with you 100%

Matt June 17, 2008 at 12:43 p.m.

Someone asked about the Navy accepting a degree from AMU for OCS. I'm not sure of teh Navy's policy but I was told by a Navy recruiter that the Navy does not accept online degrees. I am nearing the end of an online program and am almost finishing my master's degree. I was interested in going to Navy OCS. The recruiter asked about my education. I told him I was two semesters away from finishing a M.S. He asked if it was traditional or online. When I said online, he said the Navy didn't have anything to offer me as far as becoming an officer. He did say that I could enlist as an E-4. But no OCS.

So I went to another recruiter. Same deal. No dice for online degrees. Finally, I went to the Navy website and spoke to an online recruiter. He told me the same thing. Needless to say, I'm not in the Navy.

Now, as far as AMU goes; I wish that I would have discovered this school before I started the program that I am in. AMU has a much more affordable tuition than what I pay. I will be finishing my M.S. in December 2008 and I am already looking at AMU to get a second M.S. in a seperate field.

I'm very excited about attending and based on the majority fo the reviews, I think it will be a positive experience. So far, I've had positive experiences when I've called and asked questions.

Dude June 18, 2008 at 12:37 a.m.

Your Navy recruiters are incorrect. It does not matter if the degree is on line as long as it it accredited, which they are both nationally and regionally. I was looking to go OCS myself, i did not go for other reasons but my AMU degree was fine.

Armored Saitn June 18, 2008 at 5:26 p.m.

Matt,

You may be to be the one to educate them. They need to know that AMU is an online school, but it is duly accredited. Show them information on the school. Have them call AMU.

Soph June 19, 2008 at 9:30 p.m.

I'm curious if anyone has any comments about the accuracy of AMU/APU's preliminary transfer credit evaluation? (this is the one that you get before paying the fee for the official one) Does it usually match the ACTUAL transfer credit evaluation?

Gym Rat June 20, 2008 at 6:48 a.m.

What's taking AMU so long to develop some Phd programs? I'm currently in the master's of Criminal Justice program and I can't wait for AMU to offer a Phd in Criminal Justice. Rob brought up a great point about the strange accreditation issue. It is frustrating to have a degree from a regionally accredited university appear illegitimate on a resume because no one can find anything about it when searching through accreditation bodies for AMU. APUS really needs to fix this problem if they want to be considered just as legitimate as brick and mortar schools.

Leah June 21, 2008 at 3:35 a.m.

Does anybody have experience with the Master's degree in International Relations and Conflict Resolution?

JOJO June 22, 2008 at 12:15 a.m.

If AMU/APU offer same degree but only APU is the only one accredited, the why does AMU even need to exists? You shouldn't have to explain to prospective employer that AMU is accredited etc, in fact you wont get that opportunity. I really would like to attend AMU but the descripency is a real turn off...

Gym Rat June 22, 2008 at 2:39 a.m.

JOJO,

I totally agree. As couch potato said, we can just put APUS on a resume but it sounds kind of funny to say "system". The fact that we have to expain anything is kind of annoying. We are paying good money for our degrees so the big wigs at APUS need to jump through whatever hoops necessary to get AMU/APU specifically listed in the accreditation databases.

Gym Rat June 23, 2008 at 3:08 a.m.

Well..yes it does matter. I understand that the accreditation issue may seem miniscule to some people but I would prefer to avoid conversations regarding the legitimacy of my degree with a potential employer. I think that it just raises more unnecessary questions about online education at a time when online degrees are already fighting for acceptance by the mainstream. It would be nice if an employer could plug "American Military University" into a database and have the actual school clearly show up with a consistent address, etc. (AMU's website says it's located in Charles Town, WV but in some searches AMU's address says Manassas, Virginia. These might be little things but I'm sure other people know exactly what I mean. I think AMU is a great school and I just want other people to respect it!

Gym Rat June 23, 2008 at 3:37 a.m.

Amen!

Rob June 23, 2008 at 11:23 p.m.

Nobody here is talking smack... I think Gym Rat has an excellent point, and furthermore APUS has at one point addressed the issue on the Carerr-Center Website.

Google 'Alumni Employment Opportunities APUS'

JOE June 24, 2008 at 2:39 a.m.

Anyone know if the Intelligence Studies degree is worth a damn to anyone esp govt. agencies? The text books used are not really based on any sort of objective and scientific inquiry, rather stories (Most written by 3rd parties. I would love to study the subject but im not sure if trying to apply with that degree on resume would just get me laughed at...thanks

Dude June 24, 2008 at 10:57 p.m.

A university system is a set of multiple, affiliated universities and colleges that are usually geographically distributed. Typically, all member universities in a university system share a common component among all of their various names. Usually, all member universities of a university system are governed by a system-wide governing body, such as a board of trustees or a board of regents. In fact, university systems are so common in post-World War II United States that most states have one or two university systems under which many of their publicly-funded universities are aligned, both in name and in governance.

I say again, you are mis-guided, you are arguing something that does not need to be argued. If you don't like it, then dont attend AMU. You can just as easily attend a different "university system" in one of the 50 states.

Gym Rat June 25, 2008 at 3:42 a.m.

Mr. Dude,

I think you are misunderstanding what a lot of us are saying. We know that AMU and APU falls under APUS accreditation. What we are saying is that employers sometimes find this kind arrangement confusing. At this point in time it would be a whole lot more convenient if AMU and APU were accredited independently so our credentials could be verified without an explanation.

By the way, posting useless/sarcastic remarks on this board will do nothing but make people question your character, intellect, and opinion.

Gym Rat June 25, 2008 at 4:26 a.m.

"(not American Military University)" :)

Mike June 26, 2008 at 12:18 a.m.

DO NOT DO THE INTELLIGENCE PROGRAM!! CIA does not consider an "intelligence studies" a real curriculum that generates knowledge nor true analytical work, which does will not lead to gainful employment with them, perhaps DIA or DOD will consider though...

Gym Rat June 26, 2008 at 4:47 p.m.

Who knows the specifics of AMU's future Ph.D programs? Please post!!!

Ronnie July 4, 2008 at 3:30 a.m.

So why the catch with "American Military University"? I plugged it into the The Higher Learning Commission's website and notta thing...AMU may be a real school but it is not REALLY accredited...@ $250 a credit hour, im gonna take my GI BILL elsewhere...

Ronnie July 7, 2008 at 12:30 p.m.

Anyone recommend AMU's "Web Publishing" degree? I have no knowledge or experience with making web pages but would like to know how in case of a future personal enterprise attempt...

trebleclef July 16, 2008 at 5:34 a.m.

I am very impressed with everything I have read here. I have never seen a school so highly reviewed, but that may say as much about the no-nonsense, get it done military work ethic than it does about the school.

I am thinking about applying for admission to the Transportation and Logistics undergraduate program. I have no experience in this field but I want to make a career change. I was an Avionics Tech in the Navy but am now a civilian and I want to get into Supply Chain Management. I would be working, most likely, for manufacturing or industrial companies, based on where I live. Any comments on the relevance of this program to my career goals?

Another school that I looked at sounded great until I went to look at a class schedule and realized that not a single one of the courses I would need for my major are offered this upcoming fall! So, how does AMU/APU do in that department? Can you easily get the classes you need?

One final note- I have to admit that the name of the university is a turn-off. When looking for online degree programs I avoid schools like UoP, Kaplan, AIU, etc. because of my own bias towards the quality of the education provided. My bias is not towards distance education- I got my AA degree that way and I know it is not easy. APU has shown up in some of my Google searches and I have just ignored it because of the name- I lumped it in with many of the other for-profit institutions that I just mentioned. I was on elearners.com and found some very positive comments about APU and decided to check them out. I am impressed and even more so after finding this board. However, I am a little concerned that potential employers will have the same reaction that I initially had? Remember that I will not be looking for jobs in the defense sector, so most of the companies have probably never heard of the school. Anyone have any experience with this type of bias when looking for a job?

BP July 18, 2008 at 1:51 p.m.

Matt,

I have an aquaintance who has a BA from AMU currently preparing for Navy OCS. The Navy has no issues with the fact that his degree is from an on-line institution.

BP July 24, 2008 at 8:07 p.m.

ajsmith, I found two per semester to be right for me, on top of work. If your schedule supports assuming the equivalent of a full-time course load, that's great. Best of luck.

Bob July 26, 2008 at 4:49 a.m.

I am on my fourth class at AMU. I am working on my 4 yr in Military History. So far, so good. My opinion is that if someone wants to simply purchase their degree, this is not the school. The classes keep me extremely busy. I actually had to drop my last class because there was so much to do, I did not have time for it all. (It was Surveys in American Military History). I am hoping to get back to that class once my kids go back to school.

Shila August 6, 2008 at 2:55 p.m.

I am now on my 3rd course at AMU. With all the postings here all I can say is that my AMU experience is the best experience I ever had as far as education is concerned. I am, maybe the only Filipino student in AMU. I am working full-time here in Dubai Government and a full time student of AMU too. The work is challenging and so as my education with AMU. I am proud that I am accepted in this online school as it is very hard for us non-americans to get a US degree. Thanks to AMU/APUS.

couch potato August 19, 2008 at 5:08 a.m.

Ben is right. After I complete my B.A. degree at AMU, this degree will enable me to get my foot in the door at OSU. There I will complete a master's degree and provide the means of giving credence to the other.

Ben August 21, 2008 at 11:46 p.m.

I still cant get past the whole accreditation being tied to APUS thing...I may not finish my last 45 hours at AMU. Why cant they seek their won accrediting? Univ. Of NC @ Pembroke can be found separately...just like another public university in any state...

Rob September 17, 2008 at 2:51 p.m.

Any thoughts on AMU's homepage design? I noticed a drastic change on the APU site, and although the jury's still out with that new look - I do feel something should be done with AMU's homepage...

Rob October 4, 2008 at 1:11 a.m.

Becca
You won't be - it's a great program. I'm also an Int. Rel. major, and have had a rewarding experience thus far (graduate this spring) at AMU.

If your pursuing a career in international relations you'll need to complete some graduate work as well (this goes for online and B/M schools alike). Norwich U, Salve Regina, and St. Mary's (Texas) all have superb online int. relations graduate programs.

Angel October 10, 2008 at 9:04 p.m.

After going to traditional schools for several years while active duty in pursuit of my degrees, I decided it was taking too long. Deployments and unaccompanied overseas tours did not allow me to stay in class, so I had to withdraw from many classes. A friend told me about AMU and its flexibility and that they paid the books for undergraduate students, so I enrolled. At that time, they were going through the accreditation process. I was concerned AMU might not get accredited because all degrees were completely on-line and they had been denied accreditation once before, but they persevered. I stayed with AMU and I am now reaping the benefits of not only having a BA but also an MA in CJ from AMU. I am now a civil servant in the USAF and can tell you that my experience and training qualified me for the position as the Deputy Inspector General; however, it was my AMU education that allowed me to start at a much higher pay than I would have had not I had an education. I am proud to call myself an AMU graduate; so much so that I bought a class ring and wear it proudly!

Lee October 17, 2008 at 4:43 a.m.

Yes...a bachelor's degree that is regionally accredited will get you into any graduate school (of course, you must pass entrance exams, in most cases). But you need to contact the university where you plan to complete your Ph.D. with any questions you may have pertaining to the respective program. This way you'll be sure everything is in order.

Michael November 5, 2008 at 2:49 p.m.

AMU is a great school and is regionally accredited. I am a graduate student of History and I love the classes. AMU does not require GRE's or letters of recommendation, so for a graduate student it is like heaven. If anyone is looking to further their education, then AMU is the right school for you.

Veronica November 8, 2008 at 7:06 a.m.

Shea I've taken two classes in History and they were great. The teachers are excellent and are willing to help at all times. Yes there was a lot of writing, reading and researching. Every class I have taken has been very demanding and I know I have learned a lot. This is one of the reasons I love AMU.

Michael November 12, 2008 at 8:34 a.m.

Shea,
The workload is typically 3 main writing assignments and discussion per class. The papers are average in length, except for the final one which is longer. The graduate workload is alot for one class and I cannot imagine taking more than two at a time. They are also very flexible when it comes to changing things, like your degree program. I just switched from European History to Military History and it only took one day to switch. As a graduate student, I love the way the course works, as you can log in and communicate anytime or do your assignments at anytime also. Overall, if I were you and are looking for a good graduate history program, then defintely look at AMU.

Shea November 14, 2008 at 3:13 p.m.

Michael, thank you for answering my questions. I really appreciate it. Again, the courses sound like what I'm expecting and I'm glad to hear they are flexible about change, since I'm still debating between two History concentrations. It definitely sounds like an excellent program.

Chris November 20, 2008 at 12:06 p.m.

Is there a difference between AMU and APU? I understand they're both part of the American Public University System, but the only fundamental difference seems to be the names. I'm looking to start a Master's program and am seriously considering AMU/APU after reading most of these reivews. I have a BA in political economy from a B&M school and am most interested in the MA in History, as well as the post-baccalaureate teacher prep certification program. Can anyone comment on these two programs? What about the ME in teaching secondary social studies? Thanks!

soldier November 22, 2008 at 4:34 a.m.

im considering AMU to pursue paralegal studies. my question is if i decide to go to law school whether AMU is approved by the American Bar Association?

Bob November 26, 2008 at 10:15 a.m.

I received my Bachelor's in Intellignce Studies from AMU last year and am currently working on my Masters in International Relations. I know there is much debate here, but I will tell you this... I am now making six figures in the intelligence community. If you want to work on wall street, go somewhere else. If you want a job in national security and have military/law enforcement experience, this school is golden. Any recruiter in the National Security realm will readily recognize the school along with the accreditation. It is also quite something to recognize your professor on Fox News or at National Security conventions.

DonJaun December 3, 2008 at 9:51 p.m.

Apparently, AMU is listed separately now when I searched for it under accreditation at CHEA (concatenate the 'ht' and 'tp' below):

ht tp://www.chea.org/search/actionInst.asp?CheaID=169190

That should help with the heated discussion above about university systems and individual institutions.

Michael December 5, 2008 at 5:13 a.m.

DonJaun,
AMU is accredited under the APUS University System. If you go to the AMU website, you will see that AMU is part of the APUS System, which is accredited. All you have to do is go to FAQ's and look under the accreditation question. Then you will see that they are accredited. APUS is listed under the CHEA website as they are regionally and distance accredited.

Michael December 8, 2008 at 10:13 a.m.

Dear Shame on AMU,
I am just curious what degree program you are trying to get credit for? I mean there is a difference between colleges and what they will accept for transfer credit. I would be cautious of any online school that makes accepting transfer credits too easy. As for military training, I am sure that there is a difference between military classes and actual college credits. Maybe that is why AMU would not accept your military classes for credit. If you could be more specific about your experience, I could try to help. Overall, AMU is a good school and I hate to see you give up on your education.

B A C December 11, 2008 at 2:28 p.m.

I'm a current student at AMU in their Business Admin program. I'm also in the Air Force and I think I know what Shame is talking about. I have an AAS in Fire Science from the CCAF and AMU only gave me credit for 1 class. With that said, ALL of the rest of my CCAF credits were counted but they were used to fill the Electives area of my degrees (also got an AA in Gen Studies from AMU) and listed as "transfer credit from CCAF". If I had gone for a Fire Science degree I would have been frustrated by the lack of credit awarded. I have a friend who tried for the fire science degree and he felt like he got shafted too. AMU has a very strict policy (or incompetance in their transfer credit department) where they only award transfer credit if the class very closely lines up with one of their classes. I think they could have been more liberal with my Fire Science classes and I could see classes that lined up. I could have gone for a minor in Fire Sci if they weren't so strict.

Michael, it looks like Don Juan is talking about searching CHEA's website. I don't think DJ is slamming AMU, I think he's pointing out how searching American Military University will come up with a hit on CHEA. If you do that, you will notice that it is still listed as being accredited as part of APUS but at least you can find it by searching AMU.

B A C December 11, 2008 at 6:39 p.m.

Only law schools receive ABA accreditation... Legal Studies B.A. programs are designed to help students prepare for the LSATS and Law School

I Agree With Myk December 28, 2008 at 5:14 a.m.

You're spot on!

Myk January 4, 2009 at 1:39 a.m.

I was curios about the same thing. What does an AMU diploma say on it? Will it say AMU or APUS? Some who has graduated from AMU, could you please inform us?

B A C January 4, 2009 at 9:42 p.m.

I agree, the Diploma looks very good. I sprang for the nice frame too. I figured since I only paid $200 into my degree I could drop another hundred on making it look its best. "American Military University" dominates the Diploma. Graduate described it very well.

Angel January 8, 2009 at 9:51 p.m.

The diploma reads: The Board of Trustees of the American Public University System, upon the recommendation of the Faculty of the (all in 1" letters) American Military University (centered and in 2" letters) does hereby confer upon NAME (centered in 2" letters) the degree of DEGREE LEVEL (i.e. Bachelor of Arts, Master of Arts, etc., centered in 2" letters) with MAJOR underneath (i.e. Biology, Chemistry, etc., centered in 1" letters). Centered underneath is the following statement in 1" letters: In witness whereof, the seal of the American Public University System and the signatures are hereunto affixed on this the DAY of Month, YEAR. The diploma has its officers' signatures affixed at the bottom. American Public University System's seal is affixed at the top center. Hopes this helps. Very nice diploma too.

B A C January 10, 2009 at 10:11 p.m.

js: If you are a DoD Fire Fighter, don't expect too many of your certifications to transfer as classes in the Fire Science core classes. I got credit for 1 class and I have all of my 1's done (sorry for assuming anyone knows what my specific job calls certifications)(I'm an Air Force Fire Fighter). I had a friend from the station try for the BS in Fire Science and he only got transfer credit for the same 1 class. Other than that, I don't know anything about it.

Peter January 11, 2009 at 8:17 a.m.

Hi all! I was wondering if anyone has done a Bachelors degree in Political Science and if so, how would you rate it? I would really love to study this field and work through to eventually landing a job within the government sector. Any advice is much appreciated.

Myk January 15, 2009 at 7:58 p.m.

I am stationed in Japan. I have had books take as long as two months, but that was usually when I ordered the books from someplace other than Amazon. Most books will take anywhere from two to three weeks when I ordered from Amazon. To be safe, order the book a month in advance.

James Bond January 17, 2009 at 4:08 p.m.

Ricky,
In regard to your question, "...does the foundation to online learning even require a textbook?" That will depend on your instructor and, of course, you! Your instructor may require some essays to show supporting evidence found only in the assigned textbook. Therefore, you will need the textbook to complete some of your assignments. However, I should mention that in my last class only one textbook was assigned, but it required all 500 plus pages to be read. Surprisingly, I never cracked the book open (I hate textbooks!) and still managed to complete everything with an "A." Hope this helps...Good-luck!

Joe B January 22, 2009 at 12:11 a.m.

I am looking for a well rounded school. One that has high academic standards and Professors that are subject matter experts. I have narrowed my choice of colleges down to three; Troy U, U of Oklahoma, and AMU. After my undergraduate degree and upon completion of my military obligation, I am going to apply to law school. Which of these colleges offer would better prepare me for law school?

Confessor January 23, 2009 at 2:50 a.m.

Joe B,
As a pre-law student, you will probably pursue a bachelor's degree in history. Although the three colleges you have narrowed down to may high academic standards, I would think that a "well rounded school" is one that not only promotes reading, writing, and researching but also speaking as well. Brick and mortar schools generally require students to do presentations and group projects, something that is very demanding in your prospective field. Therefore, in my view, a school that helps you in developing those skills would fully prepare you for the future.

Lee January 24, 2009 at 6:50 p.m.

B A C,
"...but I've only had to pay $200 for my schooling and when all is said and done I'll have an AA and a BA for a grand total of $300."

That's true, but you're placing monetary value on your education. If you're part of our military, you're paying much more than you expect. Insurance companies say that the human life is worth approx. $1,000,000. So, in order to calculate the cost of your education you must also consider the risk factor as well. In doing so, I'm sure you'll find that there's a stipulaion that comes with the $300 education.

TMR January 31, 2009 at 11:33 p.m.

OK, interesting comments all around. I'm eyeing AMU for a Masters in National Security Studies, with the goal of working for DoD or State in a couple years, particularly in policy issues. I'm wondering what everyone's general experience has been when approaching DoD on the CIV side with a Master's from AMU...was it received well by Pentagon/DoD/State, or otherwise. Any input would be great before I start committing the time and $$$ to this program. Thanks.

Ray February 10, 2009 at 7:33 a.m.

I wanted to use a MA History from AMU to teach at a community college here in So Cal. Has anyone on here been hired by a community college with a masters from AMU?

Thanks.

J, Bartshe February 14, 2009 at 5:19 a.m.

I am almost done with my military history BA and I just wanted to say that this school is great. I have not attended any others schools, but I loved my time at AMU and am looking forward to getting started on my masters.

As far as the Navy goes, I am an active duty sailor gearing up for OCS application. If you look at the OCS requirements in OPNAVINST 6100, OCS requires simply a bachelors from an accredited university. Then, depending on the type of officer you want to be, there are seperate requirements. 2 semesters each of calculus and calculus based physics are some examples. Most of the recruiters are looking for the easy paperwork candidates. Not saying a degree from AMU would take any longer, it just requires more questions asked. Also, it's tru they don't know everything. A big obstacle to overcome in the Navy is to always question things like this. Look it up yourself. Find the newest instruction and read it for your own peace of mind.

Anyway, hope this helps somebody out there. Has anybody heard anything about AMU starting up a PhD program? Does anyone know a good PhD program for military history outside of AMU?

Ray February 16, 2009 at 2:30 a.m.

I just found out Sam Houston State's online PhD History program has been delayed for an unknown amount of time.

AMU looks like the best hope for an online history PhD whenever they get it going. I'll be signing up.

Captain Geo February 18, 2009 at 8:10 p.m.

An AMU degree landed me a full-time position as an assistant professor at a major state university. The seemingly insurmountable walls of snobbery that accompanied the distance-ed degree of the '90's seem to be evaporating as of late. Probably the combination of technology, and the changing views of the role of computers in our society are the contributing factors! It is nice to have been on the cutting edge of this progressive education. Go AMU!!

B A C March 1, 2009 at 6:35 p.m.

How long does the ACBSP Accreditation process usually take?

To B A C March 20, 2009 at 6:32 p.m.

ACBSP accreditation supposedly takes anywhere from 2-5 years. However, there is some controversy in the accreditation circles regarding the ACBSP prestigiousness since it is sometimes considered the "Silver" standard behind AACSB. It involves NCU (i.e Northcentral University) and how fast it received ACBSP. The school applied for ACBSP accreditation and received it in less than 1.5 years. Interestingly, a board member of the ACBSP was a Doctoral learning in the program DURING the accreditation process and somehow, the program was accredited by the agency, conveniently, before he graduated (somewhere around 1.5 years, nice coincidence).

Ryan March 30, 2009 at 7:21 p.m.

A degree from AMU helped get me commissioned in the Navy as a Supply Officer. The Logistics Management degree I recieved from AMU covered a broad range of transportation, supply management, and logistics functions that I think will help me throughout my officer career. I can't compare to any other colleges except for University of Phoenix, which was a bunch of crooks. If your in the service and looking to get a commission, this school worked for me. I don't know how a degree from AMU is precieved in the civillian sector but has a pretty good rep on the millitary side. I hope this post was benificial.

B A C March 31, 2009 at 3:10 p.m.

Bushey AF,

My CCAF credits (Fire Science) filled up all of the elective credits and applicable gen education credits for my BA (Business Admin). Under the Admissions tab on the AMU homepage there is a subject line for "transfer students" and towards the bottom of the page there is a link to their transfer credit evaluation center which has a transfer equivalency database. That should be useful in determining which classes and/or CLEP/DSST exams will transfer into specific classes.

Taek April 15, 2009 at 10:33 p.m.

I recently called the admissions office to Hofstra Law in New York and asked about their policy regarding degrees earned online. The counselor did not know and asked the Dean of admissions who also did not know. They told me they will find out and get back to me. I'll update you guys later.

DW April 28, 2009 at 10:53 a.m.

Rob,

In my post I never said that it was a question of if the school would accept you or not, if you had an on-line degree. I asked the schools how they VIEWED on line degrees compared to ones earned through brick and mortar schools. With that being said, not all regionally accredited schools are the same, just as not all degrees are the same. For instance someone may get a degree from a school that has a much harder course plan. Someone may earn a degree in a subject which does not require as much intense research and writing as another, or someone may take the easiest classes available in order to meet degree requirements. These are all things law schools or any post graduate school will look at.

As I mentioned in my earlier post, law schools want a well rounded individual. The very last sentence of my post sums it up when talking about a degree from AMU. "So for those of you who asked about being able to get into law school with a degree from AMU, I would say the answer would be yes. As long as you work hard an AMU degree will get you there."

Anthony May 5, 2009 at 6:45 p.m.

I just graduated from AMU and let me tell you that if you are in the service, this is the university for you. Don't waste your time looking at universities like DEVRY, CAPELLA, PHOENIX. Maybe Excelsior also can do the trick, but other than that nothing else.

David L. May 8, 2009 at 12:45 a.m.

Victor, I am a former master's student who has been away from AMU for about a year because of work commmitments. FYI I earned my BA at a traditional brick & mortar university so I have experience in both learning formats. However, I really liked AMU and I want to go back to finish my master's degree in National Security Studies. I would like to answer some of your questions based on my own limited perspective. But before I do that I have one question for you: What do you want to do with your master's degree in military history or general history? What kind of career do you want? This is a big question because your education should be tailored around your goals. Telling me you want to be a history teacher or state department bureacrat or author or you MIGHT want to get a Phd down the road all would put a different spin on the worth of a degree of any kind. Victor, I'll check back here periodically to see if you have posted a reply..

Robert M May 10, 2009 at 3:36 p.m.

I have not posted before, but I received my MA in Homeland Security (2006)and reside in Tampa. I have 17 yrs experience in law enforcement and have received teaching positions at St. Leo University and Everest University. Recently I just got excepted into the DBA Criminal Justice Program at NCU. I believe the degree has more than assisted with getting these adjunct positions and promotions in my agency. For those of you pursuing your education I am sure will be fully satisfied when you complete it.

Lee May 13, 2009 at 4:35 a.m.

To: AMU Graduate here

Which program did you complete and was it necessary to have Education courses, such as those that lead to the teaching Certificate offered at AMU?

Nick May 18, 2009 at 10:32 p.m.

Is anybody doing the Masters in Homeland Security? I'm looking into starting it and I was just wanting a little bit of information about the program and what kind of work is done. Thanks!

Bobby K May 21, 2009 at 2:51 p.m.

Does anyone know if AMU has been accredited by themselves and not under APUS? I am in the process of enrolling and would like to know if they have progressed with this issue.

DW May 24, 2009 at 8:18 p.m.

Rosemary,
I would try to get in contact with a an Army recruiter, maybe they could help you out or point you in the right direction. This forum is more for discussing issues dealing with the American Military University (AMU). The answer your seeking probably wouldn't be found here, sorry.

AMU Graduate here May 29, 2009 at 11:32 p.m.

Lee: I received a BA in Management and have no prior education courses or teaching certifications. Most states, if not all, will give you a teaching job, as long as you have an UG degree from a RA institution while you go through the state's certification process earning a full teacher's salary in the process.

Marie June 1, 2009 at 5:15 a.m.

I am considering enrolling in AMU and earning a BA in Middle Eastern Studies, Philosophy, or History. Following that I would hope to further my education with a masters or a teaching certificate. As I don't live in the US permanently, I worry about how it will be viewed elsewhere too. I would like to choose an institution that is challenging as well and respected. Oh!! And the price!! I looked into other online colleges and I couldn't believe the cost per credit hour!! How do they justify that, honestly?? Upwards of 500usd per credit hour is incredible. I must say that this discussion is very positive, though. Almost all of you have confidence in your decision and I'm truly happy for you. Would all of you make the same choice??

Karina June 2, 2009 at 5:44 a.m.

I recently found out about APU/AMU through an internet search and the reviews on this page have been very helpful. Just to reiterate what a bunch of people have already said above about the accreditation issue, if you go to the NCA higher learning commission and type "American Public University" in to their database APUS is in there. It also states clearly in the record that APUS includes APU and AMU so that's the definitive word on the matter. Someone stated above that different addresses, etc., come up in google searches, etc. That's not relevant. Many b & m schools (I'd say most) have multiple addresses this doesn't make them any less legitimate. What's relevant is the accreditation from the regional body. As for the acceptance of online degrees - the fact is that some people are just prejudiced and some are simply misinformed on the matter and think that "online school" = "diploma mill". Now obviously this is not true at all, actually distance learning as offered by some well respected western universities has been around for at least 150 years, but I suppose the prejudice and misinformation will persist among some people until they get used to it just like people eventually got used to cars, rock and roll, and cell phones, etc.

I don't have a military background like many who have posted here. I do have undergraduate and master's degrees from well ranked and pricey b&m schools. I did my first distance learning course when I was a hs student using print and snail mail well before there was a commercial internet. Lately I've been working on a career switch/upgrade so I've also taken a lot of online coursework. I'm not an APU/AMU student at the moment (but I'm interested in enrolling down the line), so my comments are with regard to online education in general.

As far as how my online courses compare to my past b & m coursework, I will say that the online courses are definitely more rigorous. The workload and accountability level is higher. There's a lot of spoon feeding and packaging in b & m school that can make life easier for traditional aged students. OTOH online learning requires maturity, independent decision making ability and a lot of DIY'ism. You are responsible for output but the hand holding is not going to be there. If you are looking for support and regular guidance with your studies and career planning then online learning might not work out for you. But since it seems that most here already have careers that would probably be a non issue.

Michael June 6, 2009 at 5:06 a.m.

Marie,
AMU is the best online school for anyone. If you enroll for your Bachelor's degree you will receive FREE textbooks for all of your classes. A Bachelor's degree from AMU is the same as other colleges and you do not have to be a US citizen. The price, as you stated, is really good for undergraduate students and the programs are really well designed. If you are considering AMU, then you are making the right choice. And if I had to choose again, I would make the same decision and go with AMU. Good Luck.

AF Vet & Spouse June 6, 2009 at 8:04 a.m.

I cannot for the life of me chose between the MA History & the MA Humanities degrees. I have a BA History currently so I know the prospects for a history degree; other than personally valuable, how useful is the Humanities degree going to be when it comes to jobs?

Ray June 7, 2009 at 6:52 p.m.

AF Vet and Spouse,

I would definitely get the MA in History if you want to be hired by a community college. Competition is fierce now and the Humanities degree is not looked upon as well as the MA History, at least as the college level. If you want to teach high school or grade school, it doesn't matter.

Dean June 8, 2009 at 10:24 p.m.

Wow AMU has a great PR team!
Would a student leave a review titled "Awesome" or "Great"?
They didn't even try to make it sound real.

AF Vet and Spouse June 12, 2009 at 2:35 a.m.

Thanks Michael & Ray for the input. I have no real intentions to teach unless it be college, and even then I have no tenure desire. I have more of an interest in the non-teaching jobs for historians as mentioned on the AHA web site like in public history, preservation, research etc. I already do volunteer work in digital preservation with the NSDAR per my membership, and am a family historian.

I went ahead and applied for the MA History program (American History concentration) and plan to start in late-fall after we PCS. I have already secured $6,000 free spouse TA from the new MyCAA program for it too. Mostly, I am doing history because I love history. The rest (i.e. Humanities stuff) I'll just read on my own which is what I was basically doing anyway.

Thanks again.

Rob June 12, 2009 at 11:41 p.m.

D-

APUS received ACSBP candidacy this year.. From my understanding, it takes a couple years on average to go from candidacy to full accreditation.

Rob June 13, 2009 at 12:01 p.m.

Ramoza-

It depends on your GPA & GRE...

Chris June 18, 2009 at 10:28 a.m.

I had some of the same questions regarding the MA in Humanities. The humanities courses definitely interest me, but I can see where the MA History would be more applicable. Can anyone speak to the history course requirements? For example, the description for the seminar in world history states "This course is not designed as a refresher of undergraduate history survey courses; rather, it is a concentrated study of world history for serious history students and professionals." I would expect an extensive amount of reading, research, and writing. Outside of that, are the courses as daunting as the description makes it sound? I have a BA in Political Economy with minimal history courses, so I'm no stranger to reading and writing. Any thoughts on the Global History concentration would be appreciated. Thanks for the help!

Ray June 19, 2009 at 7:29 a.m.

I might add thats a BA in History from SMU.

Carissa June 29, 2009 at 2:41 p.m.

I am active duty in the Air Force, and I am interested in getting my masters in National Defense or Intelligence. Any feedback on those programs- especially National Defense?

Caesura July 7, 2009 at 8:58 p.m.

The National Security Studies program is good, but it is difficult. You will certainly work for your degree at AMU. Intelligence is the same. Both degrees from this school seem to be highly regarded by the military and the gov't, so it's all worth the effort.

shirley July 13, 2009 at 8:02 p.m.

I'm sorry all of the comments seem to be answered by someone that maybe works for AMU. I need some real feedback from someone that actually went to the school.

Kevin July 14, 2009 at 7:31 p.m.

Has anyone applied to another college in pursuit of a doctorates who gained their masters though AMU? Any issues being accepted?

Eddie July 22, 2009 at 1:40 a.m.

Okay, so it's a year till my EAS and I going to re-enlist. With just a high school diploma and nothing after that, can I get a BA in marketing in/under four years with AMU?

Terri July 23, 2009 at 7:41 p.m.

I am currently enrolled in AMU, working on a Masters degree in National Security Studies. So far, I have found the instructors to be top-notch in their respective fields. The finance department is really good to work with. However, I must say that I have yet to speak with an advisor of any sort. Not that I have called or e-mailed them either. I am getting close to the end of the program so it will be interesting to see if they contact me. If not, I will have to contact them before I graduate! However, this is a very good school if you are interested in applying yourself to working hard for good grades.

Laf August 4, 2009 at 12:59 a.m.

I am enrolling into the Master of Arts in National Security Studies (MANSS) with a concetration in Homeland Security. Upon reviewing the comments concerning my academic major, I am interested in discovering if anybody is/has enrolled in the MANSS program. Please feel free to share your comments or experienced concerning this program, it would be greatly appreciated.

Michael August 21, 2009 at 4:27 a.m.

XNavyChic,
Anyone who says AMU is a degree mill does not know anything about online education. AMU is Regionally Accredited, which is the same accreditation as a traditional school, and it has affiliations with the U.S. Military who sends it students to AMU. Obviously, your friend is a college dropout who knows nothing about higher education and please do not listen to him. AMU is the BEST online university to attend. Good Luck.

Blake September 8, 2009 at 2:34 p.m.

All,

I earned my BA in Intelligence Studies with a concentration in Terrorism Studies from AMU in July 2008. I work for a well known defense contractor on federal agency contract. Sorry about the vague job description. My supervisor has her MA from AMU. Numerous colleagues have their degrees from AMU. It is a real, recognized degree, just like one you would get from any state school. I am 100% satisfied with AMU and I recommend it to people all of the time. I just signed up for grad school with AMU and will be starting in October of 2009.

Please do consider AMU for your school, especially if you are a working adult or if you are in the military. They will always work with your tough schedule and allow for extensions. Seriously, it is one the best decisions I have ever made.

Matthew September 9, 2009 at 6:01 p.m.

I'm sure I will get attacked by the people who are singing AMU's praises but I'm having a horrible experience with AMU so far. I am a new student, taking some courses at AMU. The instructions aren't very clear and some of the lessons that are supposed to be there are not there. I've taken online courses before and AMU puts far too much stuff on the login page. So it isn't very clear what the academic plan is. So I decided to email both of my professors and ask some questions to clear things up. The email from the AMU student page doesn't work at all. So I copied and pasted each of their emails into my personal email. I've emailed both of my teachers three times now and still haven't gotten a response.
I want to stay in the program but I'm very lost as far as what I'm supposed to be doing and I'm getting zero assistance from the teachers. So I'm thinking of dropping out. Apparently a lot of people are having and have had positive experiences at AMU. Don't let my opinion change your mind if you're thinking of going. But I am having a very negative experience so far.

Chris September 20, 2009 at 9:05 p.m.

So far I have had zero issues with this school

Jerrod September 24, 2009 at 11:23 a.m.

Let's get real. First off AMU gives people credit for military education. I love the military and I think there are certain things that should be given college level credit; however, the school will bring in over a year worth of credit in the elective range for degrees that have nothing to do with the associated bachelor degree. That is a perk to those in the military that want to get their degree done quickly, but it sure does not help when you are in the civilian sector trying to prove your abilities, only to prove you have not taken the classes that teach you the proper techniques. Second, it is amazing to walk into a job interview and have a potential employer ask what school you went to and have them straight up say to you they have never heard of it. AMU caters to the military. If you were not in the military, then you probably never heard of AMU. This is one of those schools that is practically new and have not produced graduates that have made a great enough impact in the civilian sector to spread the school name.

Jerrod September 24, 2009 at 11:23 a.m.

Logically, this isn't one of your better choices for a school. Even though the accreditation is the same regional accreditation as many other schools, the acceptance of students is "anyone who applies is accepted!" It will be more difficult to prove your abilities initially during job interviews (or even getting an interview) when the school itself isn't known very well. Actually, very few people have ever heard of the school. Your experience in the class my be great having a profession teach your course, but the interaction between students (where most of your online learning actually takes place) isn't of high quality because students here have not experienced the necessary things to evaluate and provide quality opinions and suggestions. The school does not use the learning team process which is a huge downside to professional experience needed. Students don't like to make up for those who don't participate; however, it would be incorrect to think that the learning team experience (as much as you can get) isn't one key aspect that will put you above and beyond those of your peers who have not experience it in abundance. Learning teams are essential since just about every organization now depends on this type of interaction to complete company goals and objectives. This is one of the most important aspects of any school. Finally, any school that gives you a years worth of school in electives (or interdisciplanry) is doing the student a complete injustice and is setting students up for failure. If a school does not come right out and say "You must take these courses and we cannot justify giving you a bunch of credit in an area that does not directly apply to your eduation or the bachelor", you would really need to ask yourself how much harm it will cause in the future.

Jerrod September 24, 2009 at 11:24 a.m.

I'm sorry for being critical but unfortunately there is not rebuttal to this that will change the fact that an AMU graduate holds far less chances of gaining meaningful employment based on their education, and unfortunately it is rightfully so. Military students need to beef up their own goals and stop searching for the quickest way to earn a bachelors or masters and concentrate on the truth in working hard to earn a degree and doing what is socially required.
Some other online schools that do meet these goals, whether you hear bad things or not, whether you like them or not, are University of Phoenix and University of Maryland. UOP does provide exactly what employers want: true course schedules, non-inflated transfer credits, team learning and collaberation, and a curriculam that is detailed and requires much attention by the student. They also offer short classes, but one at a time to really focus on the learning and the experience, yet still complete the degree in the same time as a brick and motar. They require master level and above instructors to teach, and those instructors must have sufficient years of experience in the field they are instructing. The student base is not kids and are small class sizes providing much one on one time. Finally, the students there generally have many years of experience and are just trying to complete a degree they never finished (which gives the students a huge advantage in the learning experience over any other school).

Michael September 25, 2009 at 3:23 p.m.

Jerrod,
It seems you have alot to say and alot to assume about AMU. First, it is an incorrect assumption to say that employers have never heard of AMU and that job prospects are bad for AMU graduates. Many government agencies have heard of AMU and are hiring its graduates. Second, the quality of AMU compared to UOP is like comparing a diamond to a pile of dung. AMU is rated as one of the top 5 online universities on this website, while UOP is rated as one of the top 5 worst online universities on this website. Third, working in teams for education may simulate a "Business Environment", but most degrees that AMU offers are not based on business. I personally do not like the idea of having my grade for a course depend on 5 other people who may or may not be dedicated students. Lastly, I am just curious why and for who are you posting such crap on an AMU discussion board? Are you trying to convince others or yourself that AMU is not good? I suggest you get your ideas in a properly thought out pattern, before posting such random and incoherent ideas.

Scott October 1, 2009 at 7:46 p.m.

For those of you that keep complaining about the amount of credits that AMU gives to military students; get your facts straight. This is not an AMU thing, but a nationwide thing - a vast majority of colleges recognize that military service related schools do have academic value. Each school differs on how much and what credits are given, but you would be hard pressed to find one that doesn't give any credit. And for the person who compared it to UoP - BAAHAHAHAHA. My wife teaches at UoP and I see the calibur of students there on a daily basis. Most cannot complete a sentence, let alone a degree! Of course my wife recognizes this, but when she fails a student (which happens often) it turns out it's their first F. Meaning all other teachers are just happily passing any and everything. Popularity does not equate to quality.

JST October 3, 2009 at 6:39 p.m.

What do people says about the IT program at AMU/APU?

GRK October 6, 2009 at 10:12 p.m.

I am considering AMU for a Masters in Security Management. For those who have graduated with a Masters (in any degree area), what would be your recommendation...Capstone or Comprehensive Exam?

Curious October 7, 2009 at 5:31 p.m.

What online platform does AMU / APUS use?

Phillip October 16, 2009 at 11:52 a.m.

I have taken many classes both online and traditional college courses. I joined AMU about 2 years ago and find them to be very good. The instructors are always available and helpful. These classes are very demanding and I have learned so much about the management field.
I would recommend AMU to anyone and have assisted 3 people in my office to take classes here.

Yoshi October 18, 2009 at 9:57 a.m.

Michael you are very smart guy you know just some people like daniel are just retareded!

Roger October 23, 2009 at 6:37 p.m.

I have a BS in Marketing Management, 1989 from a traditional school. I have decided to pursue a love of mine for a very long time - History. I have looked at several schools, ie. Norwich, SUNY Empire State College and AMU. I am in the application process at AMU and hope to pursue an MA in History. Any advice on continuing on a Ph.D. program in history. I would like to eventually to into teaching history at the college level.

Chris October 29, 2009 at 5:38 p.m.

Thinking about taking a military studies masters degree in Air or Joint Warfare, or strategic leadership.

Currently an Air Force Cadet commissioning in less than a year, going active duty in approx 12 months.

Question: How would the military personnel advise me on taking courses? I will have a solid block of Undergraduate Air Battle Manager training for about a year.

Thanks y'all.
Air Power!

Jack November 9, 2009 at 12:52 a.m.

Hello. I am graduating from AMU on 15 November with a M.A. in National Security Studies concentrated in Terrorism Studies, and I was very pleased with my experience in the program. I also have a B.S. in Political Science with a minor in Statistics from a "brick and mortar" state university, and it seems that the academic rigor is comparable between the two programs.

When you are considering how a prospective employer will view a degree from AMU, you first need to consider what employer you are planning to apply with - or more broadly, what career field you wish to pursue. I have found that this generally applies to any traditional degree program that you might obtain with a "brick and mortar" university.

In my case, I am a federal employee working in a career field that views AMU very favorably, and is well known within the broader federal community. Perhaps this is unique in my example, but my employer also provided financial assistance towards my specific program. To be balanced, my career field is specialized, and others may not be currently (or in the future) working for an employer who is part of a community that AMU is well known in. Broader examples include the DOJ, DOD, DOS, and specific examples include DHS, FBI, DSS, ect.

This also accounts for why so many of AMU's instructors come from this broader community, in that individual federal departments seek to participate in the shaping and content of their (ostensibly) prospective employee's education. And, it sometimes affords individual federal employers to evaluate and assess individual students who have demonstrated a particular aptitude in their degree program.

As such, if you are a current or aspiring employee of the federal government, a state agency, or a local municipality, I would suggest that a graduate degree from AMU is worth pursuing. If you have no aspiration to work for such an employer, then you may find that AMU is less visible or well known.

As far as continuing my education, the School of Public Policy at George Mason University has voiced no concern regarding AMU credentials during my application for their PhD program. Given that everyone has different goals and professional experiences, you may find that AMU doesn't fit. For me at least, it did.

Kellie November 16, 2009 at 4:43 p.m.

Has anyone done the BS Sports and Health Sciences (pre sports med) program? I am an AF spouse trying to get into the field of medicine that would best benefit our traveling and I am tired of transferring schools. My other option is to attend ACHS for their BS in Holistic Healthcare...the second option is what my heart says, but AMU is where my mind is...I am very confused and would like to hear from anyone who has done the AMU program and knows what the options would be afterwards...Thanks!

pga1 November 19, 2009 at 8:13 p.m.

I have a BS degree from a traditional college..George Mason University. I have also taken various on line classes from my local community college. Both online and traditional have their good and bad points. AMU is no push over!I am working on my masters in security management. I find the work very intense. You can not get behind. The work is just as hard/intense as anything I took at Mason.If you are starting a masters program, I would recommend starting with one class and see what you can handle. If you work full time , then come home to children...trust me..one class is all you need. The professors are fair and easy to work with. I am enjoying my experience at AMU! Great school. God bless!

CPT H November 24, 2009 at 5:43 p.m.

FYI - I went to OCS and Commissioned with a degree from AMU.

Yes, DoD regards a degree from AMU in this metric the same as it would one from Harvard.

If your recruiter tells you no, they are an a$$hat.

Capt172 November 27, 2009 at 3:26 a.m.

I am currently in the Masters Military History Program and I am very disappointed. This school is a joke, I am not sure if the instructors I have had should be teaching anything much less history. They are pompous "proffesionals" who think they know a subject. I would avoid this school if you are looking for a serious education. I have heard other students voice this opinion and I was warned about this school but I listened to people who posted that this school was great. Do not make the same mistakle I made, run for your life from this school. I am currently looking for a new school and I cannot wait to get this behind me

Capt172 November 29, 2009 at 1:22 p.m.

Michael, do you work for AMU! If you can honestly tell me that is a quality education you are deluded. These instructors are not teachers, teaching is about a great deal more than having a fancy degree and thinking you know everything or trying to spend the entire semester convincing the students how smart you are. This school is a joke, I bet the administration knows they are a joke however if suckers like us keep spending are money with them do they care? I will sound the word as loud as I can and try to save others from this school. This school needs to be exposed now.

Capt172 November 29, 2009 at 6:34 p.m.

Michael do not assume things, I have breezed through these classes. My Bachelors classes were more difficult than this crap. The instructors I have had are not good teachers everyone has a bad teacher or two however this school is awful as I have stated they are not teachers and there is a great deal more to teaching than just having a degree. You have to ask yourself what do you want from an education if you just want a degree so you can say you earned one okay, if you want a real education and to truly learn your craft this school is not the one. I would not be surprized if they loose their regional accredidation. I turned over a pile of evidence of how bad this school is and I know of others who have been contacted. I will not rest until this school is exposed. They promise to give a good education so that is what they should provide. I am really starting to think you and some of the other people that post here do work for AMU!

Capt172 November 30, 2009 at 6:06 p.m.

Michael I do not think anything I say to you is going to make a difference. I really do think you work for AMU in some capacity. You made some broad assumptions and you appear overly eager to defend this school, sound like an AMU employee to me. I had a 3.92 GPA at this school and i have a really hard time thinking this is quality education. This place is great if you just want to get an empty degree. I also had one of the two professors you name. his methods were not in conjunction with good teaching methods. There were several times when the class had to correct him on something he stated as a fact. The entire class complained about how he was detached from the whole process. If you had his class then I am sure you know about his class posts, some of that material was so absract it was ridiculous, not hard just useless in the grand scheme of things. I would also recommend checking all of the professors' bios and do a little research I think you will start to notice a common theme. Lets talk about Another Professor who I will not name due to an ongoing investigation into this school that I have provided testimony for, he is in the group of professors who like to spend the entire semester telling you how smart he is and how you cannot get anything by him although other students and I repeatedly did, it became a game by the end of the semester. And anytime a student would disagree with him he would simply reply "I have been doing this for 30 years" even though again he was wrong on some pretty obvious stuff. I really wish I could call these Professors out by name but I have been advised not to. I could go on but as I stated I do not beleive you are a real student. I also would add that I have myself to blame for not doing proper research on this, I have now moved on to a well respected University and the only reason I decided to post is to try and help some students who really want an education and are about to make a bad choice by going to this school.

Capt172 December 1, 2009 at 11:16 a.m.

G79 perhaps I have been lucky with my other schools and instructors. I would rate the AMU Professors below any of them except maybe one. All six professors I had at AMU were awful not just bad. I am sure AMU is not the only truly bad school out there, that is why I stated I should have researched better. As for the accredidation again many poor schools achieve accredidation. I agree that a degree is what you make of it however a Master's program should be of a certain quality. This school has some bad practices like relying heavily on "e-books" that are not always available and I know many students who thought the material they were asked use was outdated. Lets face facts, this is a bad school and is just in it for the money beleive me they no how bad they are, as long as they are getting paid why should they care. Look we all know that there are some jobs that require a certain degree that does not care where you got the degree from and I really do not care about all of that I have a good job did not need a degree to get and can retire at a relatively young age. I am speaking to those who really want to learn something from a Masters program, this school is not up to that challenge. I am simply speaking the truth the facts support my statements about this school and they cannot be denied. If you dig under the surface it is easy to see the school's true colors. As I stated I am just trying to give some honest answers to people who truly want to get something out of a Masters degree.

Capt172 December 1, 2009 at 6:51 p.m.

I simply cannot name names. I was advised not to by Attorneys. I really do not care if you beleive me or not I know what this school is about and I am not the only one that knows. I have given you some examples and these echo what other students feel about this school. If you choose to ignore me or doubt me because I will not provide names I really do not care I have the facts on my side and hopefully my posts will cause students to look a little closer. If this stops one student from making this mistake than I will be happy. The truth about this school is not hard to find, forget about this site I am convinced that posts like the one above are made by AMU employees. I will say this again MICHAEL look hard at the professors do some research and for god sakes talk to some real students. This is the big boy world I have pointed you in the direction I dare you to do some real investigating. Remember some documents have to be provided, this school is first and foremost a business.

Capt172 December 2, 2009 at 1:45 p.m.

Michael by now everyone knows you are not a real student so give it up this the last time I will respond to you however I will continue to sound the alram, all you can do is try to attack me AMU/MICHAEL, I have the facts on my side.

Dog Soldier December 2, 2009 at 1:52 p.m.

Michael if you are a real stuent, which I doubt, boy did you drink the cool-aid. This university is not considered respecteble by the academic community, a degree from here is only going to get you so far, and it is a sign of a weak mind not to consider that something might not be what it appears to be, question everything

Dog Soldier December 2, 2009 at 2:36 p.m.

Michael I am with Capt172 on this, I could care less if you quit AMU or not, this is not about you, boy someone has an ego. I just pointed out that APUS is not held in very high opinion in academic circles and a degree from here is going to be limited and that is a fact my friend, and by the way you are good for AMU because you are most surely and idiot. Now I am going to ignore you also.

Michael December 2, 2009 at 3:19 p.m.

Dog Soldier,
I admit that sometimes I am too zealous and that maybe I sound like an AMU employee. But, I am just a student who will be taking my 3rd class in February and I do not understand what is bad about AMU. You said that AMU is not regarded highly in academic circles and I am curious why? I am hoping to get my Master's degree in History and then go on to teach it at a community college. If you have any advice for me, I would appreciate it. I guess after all that I am not very good at posting comments online and I apologize if I have been too zealous in my posts.

Anonymous December 2, 2009 at 7:35 p.m.

Michael,
If you don’t mind me jumping in here, I’m the author of “It’s true! AMU is not entirely a diploma mill.” My review of AMU reflects in some sense what capt172 is arguing; it provides a reasonable explanation as to why AMU is not regarded highly in academic circles (no placement exams, too many part-time instructors, and limitations with technology). Yes, these are real concerns, they are not trivial! In fact, many academics tend to believe that an online education is similar to a GED. Certainly, one would have to be in denial or be plainly misguided to think that a high school diploma and GED offer the same education, no?

I currently teach a 6th grade math class but would like to teach high school history. As you may know, most teaching positions only require a bachelor’s degree, which is why AMU is ideal for someone seeking a career change. However, if you are planning to teach at the college level with no teaching license yet under your belt, then where you obtain your graduate degree is very important.

In most cases, if you already possess a state teaching license, then a master’s degree from AMU should be sufficient. Since many school districts require Early and Middle Childhood teachers to work toward their master degrees, they now recognize online universities as a valuable service. However, if you are a “newbie” to the teaching profession, then your master’s degree from AMU probably won’t hold as much weight since you are not being asked to meet additional education requirements.

Perhaps one other thing should be mentioned about teaching - in general. Regardless of your degree level, where you obtain your education, or which level you intend to teach, you will have to take “education” courses to become a teacher. Foundations of Curriculum and Instruction, Technology for Teachers, Law in Education, Educational Psychology, etc. will meet the requirements for a “Professional Teaching License.” Although some states offer an “Alternative Teaching License,” that license is only valid for two or three years since prospective teachers have to complete so many hours of classroom experience and so many credits in education courses (usually 24-27 credits). So, in addition to holding a degree in History, for example, you will need a degree or certificate in Education. Best regards!

Michael December 3, 2009 at 5:34 a.m.

Thanks for the responses everyone. I guess I just wanted to know what specifically was wrong with AMU. I enrolled at AMU over a year ago and found that it was ideal for me and really enjoyed the classes that I have taken. Maybe I am too critical of negative comments on AMU, but I just like the school and do not know if there is something wrong with AMU. To be honest, it was tough deciding on an online education vs. a traditional education and I hope that I have made the right decision. I guess I just have to be more open minded, but thanks for all of your feedback everyone.

Capt172 December 6, 2009 at 5:44 p.m.

Did anyone else notice that whenever this school is criticized and exposed for thier practices all of a sudden their are reviews posted giving this school a five star rating and talking about how it compares well to other schools. You have got to be kidding me, no one can be falling for that crap. It is so obvious AMU is behind it, I wonder if they know how silly they appear. I went to Penn State and to try and compare AMU to a Big Ten school is just stupid. My Bachelors classes were much more difficult than AMUs Masters courses, I breezed though them without really trying.

Anonymous December 7, 2009 at 2:13 a.m.

Passer-By,
You're right..."you don't even have to attend any school at all if you want to be educated." But you're missing the point - the library doesn't charge $20,000 to read books.

Anonymous December 7, 2009 at 3:03 p.m.

Michael,
You seem like a decent, educated guy, but I think you've deviated from Capt172's argument. His argument is about content, not about comparability, flexibility, or availability.

I agree, though, that an online education is what you're arguing now.

Capt172 December 7, 2009 at 3:49 p.m.

Passer-by, of course most of the negative and positive remarks are opinions. I think AMU is a poor education based on what I observed from the course, that is my opinion. Someone else may not have a problem with lower quality becuase it is affordable, that is their opinion. I am just saying before you pick this school do your homework (pun intended). It does not always depend on what you make of it, did you ever hear the saying about a silk purse from a sows ear, just cannot be done.

Anonymous December 7, 2009 at 4:57 p.m.

8CAV,
Lol! I agree, it's cheaper and no one else can take credit for it. Interestingly enough, I've learned more about American history from Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh - and they have no degrees!

Unfortunately, that little paper thingy with our name on it satisfies additional education requirements for some of us.

Mike December 7, 2009 at 10:14 p.m.

Hello,

I'm current a DEP Army soldier debating on attending AMU and majoring in MS Homeland Security after I get to my duty station. Will my Homeland Security Master's degree be respectful by government employers, even if I currently have a Network Management Bachelor's Degree that is in a different field. Also, I will have 4 years of electronics experience and a Top Security Clearance when my military term end. So, will I have a difficult time looking for employment in Defense of Homeland Security with a bachelor's degree in Network Management and a MS in Homeland Security. Can you guys give me recommendations what's the best graduate program to major in my situation it will be very much appreciated. Than you.

Michael December 8, 2009 at 6:38 a.m.

Lee,
No, I am Michael Y. from North Carolina.

MOE December 10, 2009 at 12:57 a.m.

Alright, I need opinion from Capt 172 first then everyone else of course. I’m interested in international relation degree. I’m currently deployed, I have security clearance and I speak fluent Arabic, my next goal after I finish my contract with the Army is to work with the state department or embassies jobs. I also have over 30 credits of mechanical engineering that I never finish due to some reasons u all care less to hear it.
Now do you think AMU will help me achieve this goal and if AMU offers low quality education what else you all suggest for online degree in diplomatic or international relations as online degree is my only option now??!!

MOE December 12, 2009 at 5:33 p.m.

Thank you so much Capt172.
Can you guys help me by just recommending good online universities and I'll do the rest. cos i have no experience with so ever about online studies

Indig December 22, 2009 at 10:47 a.m.

Hey MOE,

Check out Norwich University, Master of Arts in Diplomacy (which is International Relations and Conflict Management). Also take a look at what Penn State (World Campus) has to offer (they don't have International Relations, but do have Masters in Community and Economic Development). There are also some great programs overseas (online and residency). London, Amsterdam, Edinburgh, etc...

Ron December 22, 2009 at 1:52 p.m.

Indig,
I agree with the last part of your comment, good advice. Using a virtual college to earn a bachelor's degree is fine, but not for a master's degree (unless you had it pre-approved by your employer, of course). As you said, too many brick & mortar options with online programs out there.

Cam December 26, 2009 at 4:47 p.m.

I have a question. I am currently getting a BA in History at AMU. However, I want to get a BA in Military History with a concentration in Early European studies. So should I get a BA in Military History and an MA in Ancient Classical History or should I do the just opposite? I only ask because I would love to teach ancient history especially warfare, but wonder sometime if there is jobs since I hear so many colleges frown on a person with a Military History degree:( I would like to teach at AMU since they most likely would not frown on the degree in hand.

Ron December 28, 2009 at 5:53 a.m.

Moe,
You should check out Troy University; they have online undergraduate degree programs in both Criminal Justice and Internnational Relations. Apparently, they're not only cheaper ($220 per credit hr.), but also military friendly.

Michael December 29, 2009 at 1:53 p.m.

Cam,
Just thought you should know that the MA in Ancient and Classical History includes three Ancient Warfare classes titled Ancient Warfare, Wars of Ancient Rome and Wars of Ancient Greece and Macedonia. Overall, if Military and Ancient History is your thing, then you should be well pleased with the MA in Ancient and Classical History.

Dave December 31, 2009 at 8:44 p.m.

(Cont) So there I was. Dog ate my homework. I had to ask for an extension. It took me three weeks just to migrate data from my workstation to the new laptop - due to the same heinous program's inability to handle folders (instance documents only) forcing the user to migrate one document at a time into manually repopulated empty folders. Understand I didn't have AMU work on my WS - I needed to do this in order to perform my job: three weeks - gone.

Then I fell apart, physically. Nothing that's going to end me but it is a long hard road to any sort of recovery. Surgery is scheduled in Feb with a five month disability to follow. So I had to ask for an extraordinary extension that didn't end until 18 Dec. Imagine if it was all you could do to work, all the will you could muster was required just to go to work. That left nothing for school. I had lost the will to carry on, and the only thing that drove me was the intimation of failure, the specter, of leaving that legacy to my children.

Every generation of my family has outdone the previous generation in terms of social capital, status, achievement and eventual estate. This is the foundation one leaves behind to enable the following generations to surpass your limitations, which ensures they surpass your accomplishments. That legacy was intolerable, and on or about the middle of NOVEMBER, I finally began to revisit, and reconstruct work I had already completed. And I succeeded.

I succeeded but not as well as I had hoped. Firstly, the electronic campus disappeared, uncharacteristically, on the 17th of Jan behind some upkeep and just never came up again. You see, it couldn't, due to the expansive quasi- sabbatical. I no sooner reached that terminal date than the clock ran out for the Spring semester. Boom. I had to turn one paper in via email. Over the Christmas season and shortly my grade was posted! Imagine that!

In the other course I garnered my second B at AMU; the first one was my first undergrad course in 2000... I was crushed. You don't get "crushed" from a lot of 55 year old senior professionals, do you? Well, I was, frankly, I was stung. But I learned something from that experience about AMU. There is no free lunch, no "gentleman's course" no slack. It doesn't matter if you are terminal - your grade is your grade - it's the grade you EARN. cont..

Cam January 3, 2010 at 5:42 a.m.

Shouldn't APU/AMU offer a Greek and Latin language courses for those pursing a Masters in Ancient and Classical history?

Capt172 January 6, 2010 at 2:25 a.m.

Dave, that was quite a story. I am not sure how it translates to AMU being a quality school. It does not resolve the short comings that thier professors have and it does not make the graduate program on par with other schools. I still fail to see how anyone can call this a legitimate school.

Dog Soldier January 9, 2010 at 2:58 a.m.

Dave,
You say the quality of this education surpasses almost all others and that is a fact that can be verified. I found the content of the courses to be poor and the professors were not very good teachers. I would like to know what "facts" you are basing your statement on. This school is not very respected in academic cirlces and it is not the on-line format, it does not compare well to other on-line schools. Just because it is flexible does not mean it is quality.

Spongebob January 9, 2010 at 10:38 a.m.

(Cont) A degree from this University is an EARNED degree. It was an earned degree in 1990s, with NO accreditation; when a couple of Marines that perceived a shortfall between duty, and postgraduate opportunity. That's how AMU stared. And when it did, there was no free lunch. I sent off for snail mail hard copy catalogue based on an ad I read in an airlines magazine, flying back from the Persian Gulf War. To me, AMU was the answer to a dream. In the Navy, back then, you could earn degrees between sea and shore duty. But most simply could not manage both a driven career and education. I was in a sea intensive field, wasn’t going to happen.

The only thing lacking then was accreditation, national accreditation - VA recognition - and time. Those attributes did not collide for me until 2000, after I retired, but as I was setting off on a new career path. Understand this; it doesn't matter if you are a civilian; if you work for the military, in the IC, for a defense contractor, anywhere in the military industrial complex: you will have a similar time management problem. AMU/APUS is far from a gap-filler. The quality of this education surpasses virtually all others, B&M or no. I don't say that to puff up myself or the University - it is a fact that you can verify.

Or, like myself, you can engage other individuals in scholarly discussions on just about any subject... you'll soon find yourself equal in any highly informed discussion or professional discourse. It is that simple. As I said in 2007: Just do it. Take a course. If you are a graduate student the first course you'll take is a research methods intensive survey that, as one individual said here, "will blow your socks off."

The only thing I'm lacking today - is an online PhD program in a related field: national security, international security, intelligence studies, strategic intelligence; somewhere in there. Do I feel like I could cut a B&M doctorate program at a B&M institution? All day long my friends: starting out my dogma was “advanced education is the realization of a profound ignorance.” Today, my pathos is, “bring it on.”

Sad Girl January 16, 2010 at 6:45 p.m.

I received a Master's in Military History, and everyone laughs at me when they tell me that I am a loser for having an online degree! It hurts so bad. I worked really hard, graduated with a 3.85 with honors. I am jobless, and I have no toliet paper, and I am wondering if I should use this AMU degree to wipe myself. Someone help!

A Student January 30, 2010 at 9:34 a.m.

There seems to be a lot of misinformation and elitism floating around on this site about AMU/APUS so I thought I would just throw in my opinion.

I am 21 years of age and I am on track to graduate from APUS with a Bachelor's in Criminal Justice later this year. I originally attending a B&M State University out of High School, but decided to take up a job I was able to get with my Associate's degree and work full time. Wanting to realistically continue my education, I discovered American Military University while doing some research and gave it a whirl.

I've been attending AMU since Feb '09 and I must say, online courses, in this case AMU's courses, are very underrated and underestimated. I found the work load to be about the same as the undergraduate courses at a B&M school, with the only difference being the online counterpart requires much more discipline to successfully complete. This may just be my personal opinion, however.

It a nutshell, the school is 100% legit and deserving of the accreditations. I've been talking with a Captain and a Gunnery Sgt. down at the center for Marine Officer recruitment, and when I told them where I was getting my degree from they said that they know of the school and asked no further questions. This cleared up any legitimacy issues I may have once had.

Those of you worried about wanting to be competitive down the road, my point of view is that how you interview is much more important than where your degree is from (assuming it's legit). Besides that, online schools are becoming more mainstream with time and shows you can earn a degree while working full time or being active duty, while having the technological skills needed to complete online classes that some B&M graduates may lack.

Those who say AMU isn't challenging, I guess my only response is to inquire what type of challenge they are looking for; heavy loads of homework or educational fulfillment? Between the e-library and the texts, all materials needed to master a topic is provided for...and I've already given my opinion on the workload.

Finally, the elitist who claim to be Ivy League graduates or whatever, I can't help but wonder why you're on onlinedegreereviews.com.

Michael February 1, 2010 at 4:50 p.m.

I know there has been previous discussion on this topic, but I have to comment on the negative opinions some have posted. I am just starting two new classes at the graduate level and they are not going to be easy. I expect graduate work to be hard, but one of my classes just looks killer. I can honestly say that I am going to be challenged with these two classes.

Now, for all those who say that AMU is crap or not worthy of a true education, all I can say is that if AMU is not legitimate and demanding, then I do not think any traditional school could be better. AMU is for real and I seriously doubt that anyone who has taken classes at AMU at the graduate level can say they are easy. I am happy with my choice of school and this will be a tough semester. As far as I am concerned, AMU is a good school.

ET1 Michael Odom February 2, 2010 at 1:47 a.m.

Just to inform, I am a current student, taking the last requirement which will complete my degree. I have a projected conferral date of May. My B.S. is from excelsior and my A.A. is from UoP. Being military limited my options, but would not trade my education for anything. Working full time, overseas, I can say I EARNED my degrees.

Stephen February 5, 2010 at 7:39 p.m.

There seems to be a lot of disagreement about the quality of an AMU education.
I was seeking an MBA from Liberty University online and several people chuckled at the idea and some described it as "Falwell's school." I took one course because I've decided to pursue my MA or MS in CJ. There are several good B&M schools that offer MS/MA in CJ entirely online. I am concerned over name recognition, quality, costs, value etc. I am highly considering FSU's online MSCJ program which requires a GRE and recommendation letters.
It seems the only reason one would pick AMU over a well known college is the fact that GRE/GMAT/MAT are not required and it is cheap. Not to mention some of the degrees are AMU specific. But a MSCJ? Why bother going to AMU when I can get it at FSU, Boston U, etc? Why?

Also, there has been a question posted a few times on here which I've yet to see a reply: Is there anyone who has been accepted to an ABA law school with with a bachelor's from APU/AMU?

That's weird February 12, 2010 at 5:59 p.m.

It is totally inappropriate to have AMU professors write reviews on AMU! Hello! AMU professor, please stop surfing this website and go grade some papers or read some discussion board postings! And try actually providing useful feedback to show that you actually read the papers and DB posts, and that you are not doing it for a easy paycheck (at the expense of tax-payers). Many of these professors get so hammered with work or teaching, they forget how many rinky-dink courses they are suppose to teach, they get behind on their grading, and it makes for an awful academic experience.

Robert February 14, 2010 at 12:32 a.m.

How many credits will transfer from my CCAF degree? I did not complete my CCAF degree prior to getting out...but I was honorably dischagred after 12 years active service for being a single father....after 10 overseas deployments I just couldnt do it anymore. I have 55 semester hours with no electives completed such as (Math, Science..etc). All 55 semester hours were leadership, training, and occupational specific in residence courses.

Capt172 February 15, 2010 at 2:28 a.m.

I found the graduate level classes at AMU to be very easy however just because something is difficult does not mean it is quality. Some professors can make the easiest assignment difficult if they wnat to. Difficulty does not always equate to quality, A two dollar steak is much more difficult to eat than a fourteen dollar staek, does that mean the two dollar steak is of better quality?

Capt172 February 15, 2010 at 11:19 p.m.

easy does not mean that it is quality either. Quality is quality. I was responding to post where someone was saying that because AMU is difficult in thier opinion, it is a quality education.

Don February 19, 2010 at 6:19 a.m.

I am in the final year of my BA in Emergency and Disaster Management. Like anything else, you get out what you put in. With any program, you can probably get by with doing the minimum if that's what you want. AMU treats its students like adults. That means the responsibility is on you. I attended one class UOP. We were required to work in groups so the slackers got the same "A" that the hard chargers got. At AMU if I work, I do well. If not it's on me.

anonymous February 23, 2010 at 4:25 a.m.

Lauren,
The financial aid office can be a nightmare. Just stay on hold until someone picks up the phone. If the school emailed and acknowledged the rejection, then everything should be okay, given that the right hand knows what the left hand is doing.

I had a situation last year when I contracted the h1n1 virus which left me in bed for 2 weeks and in recovery for 1 week. Because I got behind in my assignments, I requested an extension. The problem is, since I wasn't able to start the following semester on time, I was booted out of school. The financial aid office had contacted the federal government who then called my loans. I now have to pay a higher interest rate on the loans I defaulted since I fell below half-time status. It took me 5 months to get back into school.

I would advise anyone who's reading this, don't get sick and drop below half-time status. The financial aid office will not hold your hand and the government will be demanding its money. I would imagine that rejecting a loan, once approved and dispersed, would have the same ramifications.

EM February 25, 2010 at 6:24 p.m.

I had great experiences with AMU for my Bachelors. Instructors were very helpful always. However during the course of my Masters program I had a lot of issues and none of them were properly addressed. The fnal comp exam they require is not a comp exam at all, but several mini formal research papers and is given in an 8 week course format(that they didnt bother to let me know about, until 2 weeks before I was suppose to graduate). The exam is just writing the questions and then seeing if the Professor thinks you wrote at a "Masters" level in their opinion. You also have to have 5 citations/references at a minimum for each 2-3 page paper. Basically they want you to rwrite other peoples data/perspective, it has nothing to do with what you learned during your degree program. Also they dont want you to take the actual exam(which you pay $250 for) if you dont do the practice questions before hand. Wehn I complained about all this and wound up receiving a fail becasue the Porfessor refused to grade my exam I was given the run around and I am still getting the runaround. I have a complete for a degree program and no diploma. They also will not give me emails and numbers to higher level school officials to brooch these issues with. Very unprofeesional group of people. I would not recommend this University to military at all. I am filing a complaint with the IG/AG and I am going to try and get some substantiated complaints so the military will put this school off limits.

LOL @ Anonymous March 4, 2010 at 10:38 p.m.

You need to stop. LOL.

Nugget April 2, 2010 at 9:51 p.m.

I've been with AMU for over a year now and it has been a good experience. You do have to be disciplined for self-study, but it is well worth it. I had one class where there was not a lot of contact with the professor. I like this school in particular because it has a degree in what I like and I am communicating with people who are working in my major right now.

Michael April 9, 2010 at 2:42 a.m.

Current Grad Student,
I am also learning a lot as a graduate student as well. I do find that some professors are more difficult than others, but that is the same with B&M schools. I am in the Military History program, which program are you in? I am just curious how other programs are in difficulty, like Criminal Justice or Humanities for example. Well, good luck.

Anonymous April 13, 2010 at 2:58 p.m.

Michael and Current Grad Student,
To teach History (Social Studies) at the Early, Middle Childhood, or Secondary level, you will need a bachelor's degree and a certificate or a required number of college credits in Education. Even if YOUR passion is to teach History, most SCHOOLS only hire those holding degrees in Social Science Education. For this reason, finding a school that will hire you to teach strictly History is extremely rare, being that most History teachers are expected to teach Psychology, Geography, Economics, etc.

To teach History at the college level, even a Ph.D. in History will barely produce enough classes to pay the bills. Why? THIS FIELD IS TOO CROWDED, which is why there are only part-time positions available. (This includes online teaching.)

In either case, to hold only a History degree will not suffice, since History has been merged into the Social Science curriculum. Also, it is one thing to know History, but it is another to know how to teach History, which is why most schools (Early, Middle, Secondary, and College) require you to have Education credits, not to mention three years of teaching experience.

Bottom line: The more marketable you are the more successful you will be in becoming a teacher.

Jennifer April 13, 2010 at 6:11 p.m.

Continued from above:

Maybe APU will get better as time goes on, but right now for recent college grads looking to get into a cheap/easy to get into grad school, you'll get what you paid for. The diploma says "Master's Degree" but is it really? I see that a lot of you say you are learning a lot, that is nice but anyone can pick up the same books without paying tuition and will learn the same amount. Where is the instruction? At the graduate level students are assigned a mentor to help guide their research, and students collaborate on research projects together. Where is that at APU? Education is a serious investment and a degree from APU might not see as much as a return as other degrees. Plenty of schools are offering online degrees. Penn State is even offering a masters degree in Homeland Security. If you have an UGPA of 3.2 or higher the GRE is not necessary. If you do not have the right GPA the program will admit you conditionally into the certificate program and provided you get a 3.0 after a semester or two, you are admitted into the masters program.

Sorry for the long response, but I feel that in this economy students like me are taking a serious look at APU and do not fully understand that this degree will not be respected in academia or most employers. If you feel that you have to sell this APU degree to yourself to feel good about going here, then how do you think you are going to sell it to an employer? To my fellow college students in the same boat, work your butt off and live at home for the next year and master the GRE. Research programs that interest you. Do not take the easy way out and sign up at this school. I am going to do just that because want to invest in a serious degree.

Jennifer April 14, 2010 at 4:47 a.m.

Yes, an online education will be different from a traditional one. But that is not the argument here; I am not questioning the delivery method of the course. I am questioning the academic rigor of APU. It’s not that all online education is bad. In APU’s case, it’s the lack of admissions requirements and the material given in the courses which are not on par with traditional graduate programs. Do they even deserve to be called graduate programs if they are not comparable to programs at other schools? For traditional universities that provide online programs, the requirements to get in are the same. The coursework given on campus and online is the same. I have taken many online courses as an undergrad and while they do have their merit, without the proper material and implementation, the student will suffer from watered down lessons and inattentive instructors. The complaint I commonly hear about APU instructors are that they are spread too thin between teaching classes at other for profit institutions to provide effective feedback and instruction. I have been very fortunate in my online experience that I had great instructors and the material was challenging. The difference here is that my instructors are tenured professors that are passionate about teaching and the material is exactly the same as the material being taught on campus.

I feel bad for the students who want to pursue PhD programs because they will be shocked at the difference between their experience at APU and the world of academia. The 8 week courses are particularly unsettling. How can a student gain a solid understanding of the subject and perform quality research in just 8 weeks? I am not an education snob who looks down on non-traditional universities, I just feel that it is wrong to provide a graduate program in name only. If a university wants to provide a low cost graduate program online, that is fine, as long as it is a quality program that will not cheat the students into believing they earned something they did not. A master’s degree from APU cannot rival a master’s degree from a traditional school. By traditional I mean courses that are longer than 8 weeks, admissions requirements, tenured faculty, and a strong emphasis on research methodology. A master’s degree from a lower tier university would have a better chance for PhD candidacy than a master’s degree from APU because of these differences.

Michael April 14, 2010 at 5:44 a.m.

Jennifer,
In regards to your comments on 8 week courses and how they cannot be used for real learning and meaningful research, I would like to say that many traditional universities offer 8 week summer sessions. As an undergraduate, I took an 8 week summer session course and I found that it was fine academically. I learned the same amount of material as in a 16 week course and that was at a traditional university. Online universities offer 8 week courses for the same reason as traditional universities do, they want to make more money. It does not matter whether the school is online or traditional, they both offer 8 week courses.

Jessica H. April 14, 2010 at 1:25 p.m.

Jennifer, I want to thank you for your comments. You give an honest opinion regarding AMU that is very rare to find. If AMU wants to be a respected university outside of the online world, it should take opinions like yours into consideration instead of trying to silence or argue with them. You bring about very legitimate points that just cannot be disputed.

The fact that anyone with a bachelor's degree can attend AMU/APUS grad school is not good. It reeks of "profits over quality". It doesn't look good to employers or PHD admissions, I know because I have asked and they have asked "So anyone with a bachelor's can go there? Oh Sweetie, your too good for that". I agree, if you wish to continue your studies at the PHD level, AMU is one of the worst places you can go for a Master's. The academic advisors don't particularly know anything besides what courses you are suppose to take for your program, and they look at your grades, which is something that you can do on your own. In fact, most of them don't even have Master's degrees, so its not like they can offer you any constructive information on how to pursue doctoral studies. So you have "graduate" students being mentored or advised by B.A., B.S., B.B.A, etc.
The very name "American Military University" has raised so many eyebrows, that I don't even tell people that I go to AMU, I lie and say that I go somewhere else. I went to cash my residual check at a local bank, and they thought I was trying to defraud them with a check from "American Public University System". The Bank teller had to call the place to confirm it actually existed (Thank God their number was on the check) and she said "You guys really call yourself that?" Embarrassing.

My grad school experience so far as been.... kind of a joke. I am not pulling straight A's right now, I have a solid B in one course, so I suppose that I can't say its too easy or maybe the professor just likes to give out B's. Seriously, how can you take so many points off for one of my discussion board replies that were like three paragraphs long but only offer one or two sentence contributions to the discussion topic yourself? Oh, I forgot, he can do that because he is the professor. Oh, okay.
The other two classes, I have solid 100%s, as if such a thing can be done in a legitimate grad school program. I know I have some smarts, but I don't know if I am worthy of a perfect score. Funny, I get the same comments every week on my work. "Excellent job, keep up the good work!" Nothing different. Different week, same comments. Its like they just copy and paste it. I have no way of knowing how I compare with my classmates (I don't want to look at their grades), but I wonder if they are getting the same grades that I am?

All and all, I think this might be my last semester here at AMU. Something just doesn't seem right.

Jennifer April 14, 2010 at 5:27 p.m.

Jessica,
It’s really a shame that AMU/APU chooses to be more profit driven than student driven. I bet there are students there just like you who have the intellectual capacity to flourish in a traditional graduate program, but are held back by professors who are too lazy and overworked to provide constructive criticism and insight. The school takes advantage of people who are constrained by time, money, and location to profit instead of creating something revolutionary. That is APU’s problem. As for the professor who just gives out B’s, and others who just give 100’s, it just shows that they are not serious instructors. I have no doubt that you can earn high marks in a graduate program, but those people who graduate “cum laude” are few and far between for a reason. Graduate school is supposed to be rigorous, painful, and kick your butt into becoming a master in your field. In my experience the classes that I learned the most in were the classes that were the most difficult. I have earned my share of C’s that would surely be A’s at a less competitive school and I am thankful for that. It would be so easy to make APU a more legitimate school. There needs to be more faculty oversight, students should be allowed to evaluate professors and have their opinions matter. Admissions requirements would not exclude people; it would just weed out the ones who are not fit for graduate study so they can save their time and money. Even community college has entrance examinations, how can a “University” that grants bachelors and masters degrees have none? I can understand that APU caters to military and working adults so admissions requirements would not be the same for recent college grads like me, but there are several ways APU can get around that. Simple requirements would not be excusatory to older learners and members of the military. They would maintain the quality of the academics and integrity of the institution. Yes these admissions requirements would be bothersome if you are a busy person, but if you are serious about graduate study, it’s a sacrifice you should be willing to make.

Jessica, I hope you are able to get into a graduate program that suits you better. I suggest you check out Penn State's World campus online, it is not the cheapest program but it is fully online and you have the comfort your degree will be respected.
go to : worldcampus.psu.edu/TuitionTable.shtml

Anonymous April 14, 2010 at 6:14 p.m.

Jennifer,
Yes, it's your opinion. But you also stated, "Relocation to a traditional grad school is out of the question right now because of financial issues. I really wanted to attend APU because the program seemed interesting (International Relations and Conflict Resolution) and the professors are impressive."

So what's your decision?

Anonymous April 14, 2010 at 8:18 p.m.

Jennifer,
I won't argue about the easy admission requirements at APUS, but I will argue about the school's tuition cost. Like most online universities, this school is not cheap. Before transferring from UCF, I was paying much less in tuition – perhaps half. However, AMU has a better History program than UCF in terms of which courses they offer. Granted, some professors at this university are more demanding than others. But the comparison between good and bad professors can be made at any institution throughout the world.

Also, I don’t think students are attracted to easy admission requirements because they’re “strapped for cash.” I think students are attracted to easy admission requirements because they’re strapped for time, as you also pointed out.

Lastly, you might want to have a second look at the school's "mission" policy.

Current Grad Student April 14, 2010 at 10:57 p.m.

AMU students have been published in professional academic journals. They have also been admitted into PHD programs in History (after successfully taking the GRE). I talked to an individual who earned his master's in military history and is currently pursuing a PHD at Duke University in military history. He assured me that it can be done and the sky is the limit. There was also a gentleman who wrote a best-selling book who had a MA in History from AMU. That's all I need to know. I plan to work my butt off, go beyond the course requirements, and make a name for myself. I won't be hiding behind the name or reputation of my degree, although I am not ashamed of my degree. I have spent entire days working on coursework and written assignments for one class! And I am not a 4.0 student right now. I have received substantial feedback from my professors, and I have become a better student because of it. And I am not one to kiss ass or say things to make nice.... if I felt I wasn't learning anything, I would transfer tomorrow. But I plan to stay here to complete my degree program. For $11,000 (not even that for me because my employer is paying for it)... if the degree can open even a fraction of the possibilities that it has offered individuals who have taken on the responsibility to take their education and destiny into their own hands, that's fine with me.
Graduating from a respectable university is great, but nothing is guaranteed in life, so why pay such a high price for a degree? A humanities degree at that. My field, military history is not offered at many universities. I cannot afford the price tag of Norwich university, and their courses do not appeal to me like those of AMU. I have checked out Sam Houston and the others, but here at AMU I am able to take electives in Propaganda, Geopolitics and Unconventional Warfare in Asia for example! I can't find another university that offers half the courses AMU offers.

Leslie April 15, 2010 at 2:34 a.m.

Has anyone majored in the Child and Family Development program? Would like to know what you thought of the classes.

Mike M. April 17, 2010 at 6:34 p.m.

I would like to give my opinion about AMU. I am a grad student about half way through a Masters in Military History/Civil War. I am retiring in a couple of years and decided I would like to do something since I will be relatively young. I chose AMU becuase they offered the degree I wanted, I am ex-military, and I know several people who have graduated from AMU. Is this school perfect, no, are some of the professors not up to standards yes, however there are some very good professors and I have found some of the courses to be very solid. I inquired with the community college I graduated from and two other colleges in this area and they all stated that they would certainly hire me to teach various types of history courses. I am only talking part time however I have found that not everyone looks down on AMU. In the military historian community AMU is held in high standards. If you are just looking for employment, go to PSU, Central Pennsylvania College or your local college or university and get a degree in criminal justice like I did. AMU is not a total watse as some believe, however have a good plan and know what you want to do, and maybe not criticize others for thier choices.

mmbsrUSA-Counter Terrorism Studies April 22, 2010 at 12:54 p.m.

C'mon people... You know, there should be some sort of screening service that verifies these comments. Not only is AMU top-rated, as is APU; but APUS is used as a role model for other schools. Do your research. According to the Dept. of Education's own website, AMU has an 89% retention rate from year-to-year. A bad school doesn't achieve that. As far as your credits for transferring is concerned, whatever you are trying to transfer has to be relevant to what you are enrolling in elsewhere; it is that way between all colleges. AMU is Regionally & Nationally accredited. The negative comments posted here are from those that merely wanted to take a few tests and get a degree. They are also the types of comments you see posted from individuals that always start out with an excuse, i.e. 'because of a personal problem' or 'there was a death' or blah, blah, blah... suck it up people and keep your end of the deal. You want easy or free? Then no, AMU/APUS is not for you. You want real world education with real world applicability? Then AMU/APUS is for you.
mmbsrUSA - Counter-Terrorism Studies

Michael April 22, 2010 at 11:04 p.m.

It seems to me that the only negative comments I see on here are those by people who cannot handle graduate study, let alone online graduate study. No school is perfect, but if you are not ready to do your own hard work or study enough, then online learning is not for you. Does it really matter what the school is like if the degree you achieve is regarded as equal to other types? I will be getting a Master's degree in Military History from AMU and I have no problems or complaints because I work hard to succeed. I do not come on this site to complain about my shortcomings and then blame AMU for why I fail as a student. If you do not want to work for your degree, then do not become a student. As for AMU, it is a great school that challenges me and I will be very happy when I graduate.

Joey April 24, 2010 at 2:38 a.m.

Sara- what are you worried about, exactly? My bachelor's is from Indiana Wesleyan University- 100% online. IWU bashers need not reply.

Jessica April 24, 2010 at 10:31 p.m.

Joey, I was never able to look at the grades of other students and never said that I did. I was saying that I do not wish to look at the grades of other students if this option was available to me as that would be invasion of privacy, but I would like to know how I compare with my classmates academically. I see individuals turning in very sub-standard work and not following the directions as outlined in the syllabus. I assume that they are still in the class because they are happy with their grades thus far.

I am being challenged, I will say that. The work is definitely getting harder and harder. I suppose I am making good grades because I am a perfectionist and I follow all of the directions, and I take my education seriously. I made 100% on undergraduate papers and quite a few A+ on my transcripts, so I guess I could just be that awesome. Although, I do feel sort of better when I get that occasional 90 or 91%. It makes me feel that the instructor is critically examining my work.

Joey April 26, 2010 at 11:56 p.m.

Jessica: I must have misunderstood the verbiage about the grades.

Kennedy May 4, 2010 at 1:44 a.m.

Everyone be aware that Jerrod's real name is Jim Holcomb. I worked with him for a year and he was a nightmare until he got fired. His opinions of AMU are only a mere reflection of his disatisfaction with life in general.

Hector May 4, 2010 at 7:07 a.m.

Hey Ray,

Have you looked at applying certain schools? if so, what have they told you about accepting a degree from AMU?

Jessica H. May 4, 2010 at 2:21 p.m.

*They have a name brand degree.

Another thing. It would really help if AMU could at least compile a list of students who have been accepted into graduate school or PHD programs. Every Proud History department has a list of universities that have accepted their students in graduate or professional school programs. It just makes sense. The fact that the advisors are clueless or try to change the subject whenever I ask really irks me. Ray and Hector, thank you for asking this important question and you should be applauded for taking your education seriously. There may be individuals who will try to personally attack you for asking this question, but keep at it. It's your money and your time, find out as much information as possible before making a decision. I see too many individuals on the AMU student forums and on this website, attacking students who dare to ask question or point out the flaws of AMU. I am convinced that some of these people are plants.

Luba M May 5, 2010 at 4:13 p.m.

Great school. Works around my schedule. Dont enroll in this school if you are not able to work independently and need someone to hold your hand at every turn. I agree with the previous reviews before me that you get what you put in. Did I mention free books for undergrad students and no admissions fee?

Ray May 6, 2010 at 11:31 p.m.

Yep, I agree Hector. They need to post some information concerning students who were accepted into PHD and Masters programs. I do like my AMU experience though. My biggest problem is the GI Bill. I didn't pay into it when I was a 2LT in 1988 and now I'm paying the price, literally, every month with my credit card.

I think AMU is on the precipice of being a really well-known good school. They just have a few bugs to work out of the system. Folks, most of these B& M schools have been around a long time. AMU has been around since, what 1993? Not even twenty years.

Just think how cool AMU will be in 2030. I have confidence they'll fix any issues that bother people now.

And, for those desperately waiting for an online PHD program in History or Poli Sci, etc, give the online world about five more years. The programs will appear at AMU and B&M schools.

The future is online education. Just think how much more productive all of us could have been in grade school or high school with online school. Check out Khan Academy on You Tube. Khan, AMU and other online programs are the future.

Ray May 6, 2010 at 11:56 p.m.

Hector, I'm not currently planning on pursuing a PHD. Although, I might get a MA in Mil History as well. Not sure. Here's some info I found from AMU's June 2009 online newsletter. You can also find it in the archives section. SIU calls their History department the Historical Studies Dept. So, here's one guy who made it into a B&M PHD program. I think if they posted this stuff, it would be great. Instead, you have to root it out.

Make Way Southern Illinois University Carbondale!
American Military University (AMU) is proud to announce that graduate Nathaniel Davis has been accepted into the Southern Illinois University Carbondale’s PhD program in Historical Studies. In addition to being accepted to SIUC’s PhD program, Nathaniel has been awarded “The Delyte and Dorothy Morris Doctorial Fellowship.” Read More

Hector May 7, 2010 at 12:10 a.m.

Hey ET1 Odom,

No one is complaining about the school's curriculum, we're only wondering why hasn't APUS improve its student services and posted where its alumni has gone to pursue its advanced studies.

ET1 Odom May 7, 2010 at 1:57 a.m.

Hector,

The comment was not direct at you, but since you took offense to...

The comment was direct at everyone else, who has complained over the years that I have been reading this post, and the same complaints are posted over and over again. It just so happened that I had some free time to reply. I apologize if I offended you.

Getting back to your questions, every school has room for improvement. I believe the limited cases maybe due to the fact that most people, after their masters degree pursues job opportunities that become open to them because they completed their degrees. Not everyone is going to want to pursue a doctorate after their masters. Most people find a good job and work instead. I would like to get a doctorate at some point, but now that I have completed my masters, I am more interested in getting employed. There is also the fact that not all people will report back to the school. I am an alumnus of another school, but I do not report back everything I do to that school. Some people do not have the time. Are all these cases the fault of the school? Is the school to blame because they do not keep track of what EVERY SINGLE GRADUATE is doing? Would it not make more sense to spend resource supporting current and prospective student then keeping tabs on everyone who graduated? Some schools cannot support very large staffs.

Hector May 7, 2010 at 3:11 a.m.

ET1 Odom,

I apologize is i sounded too naive and cold based on the last two replies, it's just been frustrating to get feedback on where alumni gone to pursue their PhDs. Don't get me wrong i really like the curriculum the school has to offer, but i only wish they could know where have potential law school students, potential doctoral students gone on to get accepted.

I Don't blame you and others pro-AMU alumni supporting and voicing their experience studying at AMU. The school is better than majority of online institutions.

Once again, I do apologize for rude comments. It's not fair for anti-online universities people to get on here and try to bring down graduates and current students for choosing an semi-new, unorthodox education instead of a traditional way.

I'm looking at going here because of the drama the California State Universities are dealing with and need a back-door option that will enchant my studies and not provoke me from losing lecture time because of "cutbacks", furlough days, and reduced enrollment.

I want to make sure i get a damn good education with a goal to pursue graduate school at traditional university and law school since attending state university sucks right now.

Ray May 7, 2010 at 4:29 a.m.

Hey Scott is Troy regionally accredited? I was on their website a few days ago and couldn't find anything about their regional accreditation. Might want to confirm that.

Hector May 7, 2010 at 5:05 a.m.

Hey Ray,

I wish they offered more online History programs at the Cal States. I do want to pursue a graduate degree at a traditional university. I want to make sure i don't get looked down upon for having an online degree from unknown university outside of the public sector.

UCLA is hurting too big time, its good that you didn't pursue your degree with them. USC is way too expensive that i agree.

Hector May 7, 2010 at 5:49 a.m.

I have looked at SHSU, they're very limited on enrollment for its program. I much rather go to a on-campus university. I just won't pursue at a CSU or maybe UC.

Scott (AMU '07) May 7, 2010 at 11:27 a.m.

One other quick note. Troy has also been named by Forbes as one of America's Best Colleges and was selected by The Princeton Review as the Best Southeastern College in 2009.

Again, I'm not bashing AMU. I received my bachelors from there and, for the most part, was pleased with my courses and the amount of work I had to do for my classes. I had previously attended a major B&M and found several of my AMU courses to be just as demanding and research intensive. I've just decided that for my Masters I want a more recognizable program in case I want to pursue a PhD.

Scott (AMU '07) May 8, 2010 at 12:44 a.m.

Hector - Not sure where I want to go for my PhD, or even if I want to go that far. I'd be content to teach at junior/community college level, so getting a respectable Masters is important to me.

If I do pursue the PhD, I'll probably go somewhere local. I'm just outside of Philly and have plenty of schools around me for PhD programs. It's just a matter of finding one with the program I want. Would have to put Rutgers at the top of my list right now.

Jessica H. May 8, 2010 at 12:09 p.m.

The syllabi for Troy's graduate International Relations courses look similar to the syllabi of extremely easy undergrad courses. At least AMU professors require you to read several books in addition to articles and government documents on a weekly basis. I don't see much to brag about with Troy.

Jessica H. May 8, 2010 at 3:35 p.m.

Hello Hector,
I am in the Military History graduate program, but I have completed AMU IR graduate courses for electives. I considered Troy before I went with AMU and talked to several students in the IR program there, and they were less than impressed. So was I, when one of the students was gracious enough to e-mail a copy of her syllabi. They were asking me about AMU! LOL. If Troy has a better reputation than AMU solely because it has a long history as a B&M, that is very unfortunate. And I realize that alot of high-ranking military personnel do have degrees from Troy.

Here at AMU, graduate students can realistically expect to read a book or two each week (or at the very least, several long chapters of a book or two), read at least two to three journal articles that are around 30 pages each, and write a discussion board posting that is really more like a mini research paper. This is the min. if you want to submit high-quality A work, and depending on your research and writing skills, this may not even be enough for an A.

Ray May 8, 2010 at 9:30 p.m.

I can tell you that Troy, which used to be called Troy State, I believe had kind of a bad rep in the army back in circa 1988-1990. It was known to be fairly easy. But, back then you only had a choice between Troy and the Univ of Maryland. They actually had instructors from these colleges at bases in Germany, combined with correspondence courses.

I firmly believe AMU's biggest battle is getting its name out to the civilian world. When they get to the point where an admissions committee from USC knows who they are, they've truly won. Sure, it can fix some academic issues, but once again, the place hasn't been around that long.

Joey May 13, 2010 at 12:26 a.m.

Apologies- the show is called College, Inc. not College 101

ET1 Odom June 2, 2010 at 4:17 a.m.

Commenting on a recent experience with AMU...an error in their system caused one of my dropped classes to be improperly processed in their computer system which resulted in a balance on my account. I was informed that my account was placed on financial hold, and could keep me from getting my diploma on time. It took me a few attempts, mainly due to the long weekend we just had, but I was able to reach the correct person. The error was discovered and my account was cleared the same day I contacted the right person. This displays the effort the AMU staff puts into making sure students are taken care of. It also displays a student has to take the initiative to solve problems, and cannot expect all problems to fix itself. I know that the error may not have been discovered if I did not call, and initiate the investigation.
AMU is a great school. You get a relevant education and great at tentative staff. AMU may not be a B&M school, but compared to all other online collages, AMU is definitely one of the best

Michael June 2, 2010 at 10:44 p.m.

ET1 Odom,
I had a similiar experience at AMU, where my financial aid got messed up. I was supposed to be classified as a 3/4 time student and there was a mix up, where I received only the money for a 1/2 time student. I called AMU and it took a week to resolve, but in the end I was classified correctly and they even overnight mailed me the difference in money that I was supposed to get. How many schools, once they realized they made a financial mistake, would send a check overnight to me to make up the difference? All I can say is that AMU is awesome and I agree that AMU is one of the best.

Prof. Haughty June 8, 2010 at 12:16 a.m.

ET1 Odom,
I noticed in both your comments you had misspelled the word - college. So, in effort to push back the frontiers of ignorance, it's college, not collage.

Hope this satisfies your educational needs.

Hector June 11, 2010 at 5:46 a.m.

Do we have here alumni who made the transition to brick and mortar schools for their graduate studies or law schools? Could you also mention which schools did you ended up attending after AMU.

If we do have them wondering around on this website, tell me how did your transaction went from online to sit-down and listen to the professor?

That Guy June 15, 2010 at 3:06 a.m.

Why keep arguing about this school? Nothing but cry and complain and then some.

Yeah June 18, 2010 at 3:53 p.m.

Fu-k this, I am transferring to Norwich.

Mike June 20, 2010 at 2:58 p.m.

I am currently enrolled in the International Relations program at AMU. Fist let me state I am not really a fan of online classes if my situation permitted I would most likely go to a traditional school, having said that AMU is second to none. I have attended traditional colleges and there is not much difference. In fact the only reason I would prefer traditional over online is because of all the women got a chance to meet on campus. as far as all these people asking can I do this and that with a degree from AMU the answer is yes. it is true most online colleges get a bad wrap however it is also true AMU has a great reputation in the DC MD VA area amongst all the government agencies(even the ones we are not supposed to talk about) and all traditional colleges are offering online programs. for the people asking can I attend OCS with this degree it does not come down to some recruiter's discretion it comes down to accreditation which AMU has. simply put if the military pays for it than yes it is accredited so they can check a box stating you have the degree and you qualify for OCS. Online colleges are expensive and if you are not with the military or any other any other company that provides tuition assistance or rich than you have no business in an online college. besides lets say if an employer not in favor of online degrees looked at your resume and seen your credentials earned from an online school but you have several years of work experience he would most likely looked pass his biases. long story short my time (15) classes at AMU has been awesome. the work load is fair and designed for you to actually learn a subject, as opposed to online courses from a traditional college where some of the teachers think just because you dont have to take the time to physically be in class you have all the time in the world, so your just worried about meeting deadlines and passing the course with a C grade and not critically analyzing the material. as I stated earlier Im currently in the BA International Relations program put me up against any undergrad student in the same program at another school I will crush him. my teachers have real world experience in fact my current teacher is an ex soldier and has been on television overseas 50 times as an analyst but does not do FOX news as principle HE IS NOT A FAT ARMCHAIR ACADEMIC.

PS
for anyone that can point out grammatical errors in my post and say "oh see the level of education at AMU" keep in mind genius this is a BLOG and as I am writing this Im sitting in my underwear eating cereal on a Sunday morning.

Brian June 27, 2010 at 9:03 p.m.

I had a question I was hoping could be answered here; I am looking for a program in emergency and disaster relief that will help me land a job for FEMA or a similar agency. Does the AMU emergency management and disaster relief bachelors program satisfy this? I am currently a firefighter paramedic with no military experience. Is this a good place to start? And will I be required to get my masters? Thanks...

Jay July 1, 2010 at 11:23 p.m.

Hello

I'm looking into American Public University. Plan on doing the English program...was curious if there's a way to do teaching through their program? Is there a way through their school to get an intern/externship at the end of my class? Sorry if that doesn't make sense I'm trying to type fast (using friends computer)

C.A. July 17, 2010 at 2:04 a.m.

I have attended several schools from tech to University. I was super cautious about AMU but when co-workers in Iraq spoke highly of it I finally registered for classes. I was not dissappointed. For the first time I was truly able to max out my potenial. Instead of spending endless hours in a classroom listening to people ask questions about reading they didn't do, I was able to work at my own (fast) pace and not waste any time. The teachers were as interested in their courses as I was (and sometimes, as in the case of math, more). I was able to get the final two years of my degree finished in just over 12 months and the school was very supportive. In my professional life (Intelligence) this school is highly appreciated and one of the better intelligence programs available to soldiers, defense contractors and deployed individuals!!

Anonymous July 17, 2010 at 9:25 p.m.

Jay,
Perhaps you should contact an advisor at Penn State. That way, the information you need will have more credibility and serve you directly. However, because you're not a registered student there, I would give them a call - first, since it might take forever to get an answer by email.

Truth v 2.0 August 3, 2010 at 6:13 a.m.

Somehow all the negative responses on this board seems to be filled 95% of recycled bias responses against online collages, 95% of people who cannot muster any motivation to take any initiative and solve their own problems expecting everything to be done for them, including learning, and 95% of the negative responses are people who were probably swindled by other online colleges and did not bother to do any research on this school, bouncing from forum to forum, mad at the world, because they themselves failed to do any research before they jumped into a program.

The bottom line is it does not matter what school you choose, you should do your research. These forums are great to get a feel for a how a college is viewed, but be thorough in your research. Compared to other colleges on this site, AMU is on of the highest rated overall and it one of the few colleges on this site that has over 100 reviews. As far as online college vs. traditional colleges, the gap is closing and online colleges are no longer shunned, like it was in past. Online colleges are great for people who do have the luxury of time. These are my 2 yen (with the exchange rates, yens are worth more).

Anonymous August 5, 2010 at 11:53 p.m.

Jacob,
If I remember correctly, you can transfer up to 90 credits for a bachelor's degree. However, the same 90 credits would have to satisfy the requirements of whatever program you choose.

Cheng06 August 13, 2010 at 6:49 p.m.

Malia,

Environmental Studies vs Environmental Engineering - it is kind of like the difference between a Psychologist and a Psychiatrist. If you have a degree in Environmental Engineering, it means you took the mandatory courses required for an engineering degree such as lots math and sciences (calculus, chemistry, physics..etc). Environmental Studies probably cover much of the same environmental core courses without alot of the science and math. It usually depends the person's background and work experience but an engineering degree can open many more doors than a "studies" degree. Just like psychiatrist are pretty much psychologist in most respects but not vice versa as the latter is not a medical doctor. People with a "Environmental Studies" degree can work as a technician and in management but it is the engineers who normally put the rubber stamp on things like designs, analysis studies...etc. There are exceptions of course depending on the person's knowledge level and experience. I am not positive but it is probably a little hard (if at all) to get a credible engineering degree online. If you can find a program and complete it, you are a very smart person indeed. Hope that helps.

Casey August 18, 2010 at 8:56 a.m.

Question: Has anyone successfully transfered AMU credits to another university? Was it online or B&M?

duck August 24, 2010 at 5:33 p.m.

Recently was accepted at AMU, waiting over 30 days and the transfer credit department has not even registered my documentation, let alone obtain my transcripts. But they did cash my check. Reading between the lines, admissions seems to know this is a problem. not sue why they aren't more attentive to new students.

OIC August 27, 2010 at 8:49 p.m.

I have to say, that although I have two Masters degrees from AMU (4.0 in both), it is NOT respected in the civilian world. I am in the military, so it really doesn't matter, but I have spoken to friends both in the academic community and the recruiting community, and outside of contractor gigs, the prospects are slim. Also, trying to get into Phd program is proving tough as well. Just some heads up for you guys.